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Post by Gods on Jul 29, 2024 10:41:36 GMT
Is this honeymoon over day for Labour?
GP's voting on whether to strike and join all the other stakeholders queuing up for a share of the Labour pie.
Meantime Rachel Reeves getting up in the House to announce we are even more flat broke than we thought we were.
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Post by superjw on Jul 29, 2024 11:30:03 GMT
Is this honeymoon over day for Labour? GP's voting on whether to strike and join all the other stakeholders queuing up for a share of the Labour pie. Meantime Rachel Reeves getting up in the House to announce we are even more flat broke than we thought we were. Didn’t the IFS call out both Tories and Labour’s manifestos wouldn’t address the finance hole before the election? I’d say what they are announcing is something they already knew about
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 29, 2024 12:15:16 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 29, 2024 12:46:21 GMT
2 cheeks of the same arse. Absolutely disgusting.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 13:52:18 GMT
2 cheeks of the same arse. Absolutely disgusting. There seems to be something odd here because what he is saying makes no sense If as he claimed he was paying Social Security in Spain for 4 years he would have become eligible with1 year of contributions to receive contributory unemployment benefit based on the average of the last 6 months of employment of between €540 - 1180 per month. My guess is that he was on some kind of Moody Employment in Spain He is perfectly correct that because he was habitually non Resident in UK he is not eligible for UK Jobseekers Benefit or other Benefits for 3 months. This was something widely misunderstood during UK when in EU Yes there was Free Movement and someone could come to UK to look for Employment but they may have been eligible for Unemployment Benefit in their home Country but not in UK. At the end of 90 days they could be deported if unemployed by Home Office but rarely were. Of course there's nothing to stop Steve getting a Job
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Post by salopstick on Jul 29, 2024 14:18:56 GMT
Is this honeymoon over day for Labour? GP's voting on whether to strike and join all the other stakeholders queuing up for a share of the Labour pie. Meantime Rachel Reeves getting up in the House to announce we are even more flat broke than we thought we were. to be honest we were fucked either way. its just a different colour fucking us the left wingers who loved to slate (quite correctly at times) the tories on the government shambles thread are largely quiet now. when the tories take over masive debt its the banks the financial crisis causing it. when labour take over its the tories. to be fair to labour at least they left a note
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 29, 2024 14:28:00 GMT
Is this honeymoon over day for Labour? GP's voting on whether to strike and join all the other stakeholders queuing up for a share of the Labour pie. Meantime Rachel Reeves getting up in the House to announce we are even more flat broke than we thought we were. to be honest we were fucked either way. its just a different colour fucking us the left wingers who loved to slate (quite correctly at times) the tories on the government shambles thread are largely quiet now. when the tories take over masive debt its the banks the financial crisis causing it. when labour take over its the tories. to be fair to labour at least they left a note To be fair to us left-wingers I think you'll find we are being critical, if you'd care to take a look.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 29, 2024 14:41:50 GMT
Why austerity doesn't and never will work. For Rachel Reeves
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 29, 2024 14:52:48 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Jul 29, 2024 15:03:17 GMT
Is this honeymoon over day for Labour? GP's voting on whether to strike and join all the other stakeholders queuing up for a share of the Labour pie. Meantime Rachel Reeves getting up in the House to announce we are even more flat broke than we thought we were. to be honest we were fucked either way. its just a different colour fucking us the left wingers who loved to slate (quite correctly at times) the tories on the government shambles thread are largely quiet now. when the tories take over masive debt its the banks the financial crisis causing it. when labour take over its the tories. to be fair to labour at least they left a note I didn't see many Tories on here criticising the absolute fiasco along with widespread corruption that occurred when the last government were in power either to be fair, just a lot of mental gymnastics and deflection. I might run a sweepstake on the date of the return of FYD, he's bound to be back if things get shit enough
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 29, 2024 15:11:51 GMT
Apparently she's announced cuts to the winter fuel allowance. A Labour Government. Fucking Hell.....
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 15:28:45 GMT
Apparently she's announced cuts to the winter fuel allowance. A Labour Government. Fucking Hell..... To be means tested as all discretionary benefits should be I certainly don't need it
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Post by salopstick on Jul 29, 2024 15:32:07 GMT
Apparently she's announced cuts to the winter fuel allowance. A Labour Government. Fucking Hell..... we had this discussion in work last week restrict pensionable age benefits from those who dont need them. millionaire pensioners not an issue for me. use millionaires benefits to increase the less well off taking it off all people on a state pension only is disgusting. Will affect and hurt most pensioners
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 29, 2024 15:33:12 GMT
Apparently she's announced cuts to the winter fuel allowance. A Labour Government. Fucking Hell..... To be means tested as all discretionary benefits should be I certainly don't need it There will be thousands of pensioners who through small work pensions who will be just over the pension credit limit Who do need it and will notice the difference
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Post by salopstick on Jul 29, 2024 15:35:40 GMT
Apparently she's announced cuts to the winter fuel allowance. A Labour Government. Fucking Hell..... To be means tested as all discretionary benefits should be I certainly don't need it i read the new rules if you paid stamp all your life and just recieve state pension you wont be getting it. if you have not paid stamp and just recieve pension credits you will get it
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 29, 2024 15:35:42 GMT
Well well a labour government bringing back the indignity of means testing
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Post by salopstick on Jul 29, 2024 15:36:59 GMT
Its a political ideology decision. labour hate pensioners they are seen as tory voters
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 15:39:21 GMT
To be means tested as all discretionary benefits should be I certainly don't need it There will be thousands of pensioners who through small work pensions who will be just over the pension credit limit Who do need it and will notice the difference Depends on what the earnings limit is set at
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 29, 2024 15:41:05 GMT
To be means tested as all discretionary benefits should be I certainly don't need it There will be thousands of pensioners who through small work pensions who will be just over the pension credit limit Who do need it and will notice the difference I was about to reply and saw your response mate. There will be thousands who will fall the other side of the fence. It's fucking heartless.
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Post by henry on Jul 29, 2024 15:42:19 GMT
Wolf in sheep's clothing. Wait till the budget when they start going after pensions and savers.
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Post by chad on Jul 29, 2024 15:42:44 GMT
Pay the well paid doctors over the odds and screw the pensioners
Well who saw that coming. Rail workers will be on strike next after their 20%
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 29, 2024 15:42:47 GMT
There will be thousands of pensioners who through small work pensions who will be just over the pension credit limit Who do need it and will notice the difference Depends on what the earnings limit is set at We have one of the worst state pensions in the World, never mind Europe. Struggling to see how you can defend this.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 29, 2024 15:44:34 GMT
A estimated 800 thousand households who may be eligible for pension credit don’t claim it
They will now loose their heating allowance
Not only are labour happy to keep children in starvation They now want to pensioners to freeze to death
Whilst in the meantime giving their paymasters the public services unions a inflation busting pay rise
Never has it been truer be careful who you vote for
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Post by elystokie on Jul 29, 2024 15:47:03 GMT
Apparently she's announced cuts to the winter fuel allowance. A Labour Government. Fucking Hell..... we had this discussion in work last week restrict pensionable age benefits from those who dont need them. millionaire pensioners not an issue for me. use millionaires benefits to increase the less well off taking it off all people on a state pension only is disgusting. Will affect and hurt most pensioners Same with free prescriptions, ludicrous that someone who can easily afford it gets it free just because they're over 60 and I include myself in that, the money could be spent much better, I feel a bit guilty not paying for it tbh.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 29, 2024 15:52:47 GMT
2 cheeks of the same arse. Absolutely disgusting. I deal with an ex-Army veteran when I go out into Manchester volunteering (yeah yeah virtue signalling wanker etc etc), one of the brightest most switched on blokes I've ever met. He also happens to be an alcoholic with a horrific story that's got him to where he is in life but it's devastating to see someone who could be capable of doing whatever he wanted to suffer the way he does. And whilst it's not directly related to the Starmer government I have to say that the situation on the streets in Manchester is getting worse, when Burnham first implemented his strategy of eradicating rough sleeping within 3 years there was a real positive sign that that could happen, the amount of people we're dealing with now I would suggest that is definitely not the case......
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Post by henry on Jul 29, 2024 15:54:17 GMT
To be means tested as all discretionary benefits should be I certainly don't need it There will be thousands of pensioners who through small work pensions who will be just over the pension credit limit Who do need it and will notice the difference But still expected to cough up £170 to the ever increasingly rancid BBC.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 29, 2024 15:55:19 GMT
Depends on what the earnings limit is set at We have one of the worst state pensions in the World, never mind Europe. Struggling to see how you can defend this. I'm neither defending or endorsing it, I'm giving you my opinion of how I think discretionary benefits should be paid and as I replied to Waga it will depend on where the earnings limit it set On a very quick calculation of the projected saving £1.4Bn (it would pay half the cost of removing the 3 Child Cap) there are about 11M pensioners and 6.5M will receive it and 4.5M won't
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 29, 2024 16:02:46 GMT
Pay the well paid doctors over the odds and screw the pensioners Well who saw that coming. Rail workers will be on strike next after their 20% 'cos anyone can be a doctor, why the hell should they get paid more than the average wage?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 29, 2024 16:03:29 GMT
2 cheeks of the same arse. Absolutely disgusting. I deal with an ex-Army veteran when I go out into Manchester volunteering (yeah yeah virtue signalling wanker etc etc), one of the brightest most switched on blokes I've ever met. He also happens to be an alcoholic with a horrific story that's got him to where he is in life but it's devastating to see someone who could be capable of doing whatever he wanted to suffer the way he does. And whilst it's not directly related to the Starmer government I have to say that the situation on the streets in Manchester is getting worse, when Burnham first implemented his strategy of eradicating rough sleeping within 3 years there was a real positive sign that that could happen, the amount of people we're dealing with now I would suggest that is definitely not the case...... Don't think that's virtue signalling. Just a decent thing to do. Fair play to you 👍 And I agree, homelessness despite the promises to deal with it definitely seems to be getting worse in Manchester. Its tragic.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 29, 2024 16:05:07 GMT
A estimated 800 thousand households who may be eligible for pension credit don’t claim it They will now loose their heating allowance Not only are labour happy to keep children in starvation They now want to pensioners to freeze to death Whilst in the meantime giving their paymasters the public services unions a inflation busting pay rise Never has it been truer be careful who you vote for Pensioners won't go out flipping police cars or setting fire to buses. Easy money.
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