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Post by henry on May 30, 2024 18:20:29 GMT
Labour dropping the dangerous dogs act and banning scampi.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 19:25:34 GMT
Another tweet of Luke Akehursts It says underneath the post: “This is a doctored tweet. Luke never tweeted this.” It does seem a bit too extreme to be unlikely. You can make hundreds of comments about a group of people without going as far as to say that they should be exterminated like rats.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 30, 2024 19:26:37 GMT
I don’t think Israel or British Jews have much sway over decision making by our government at all. Over the very narrow issue of the Israel and Palestine conflict the state of Israel does influence policy. But over what other issues does it influence our policies? NHS? Education? Taxation? Housing? Brexit? I don't mean day to day running of the country - more that criticism of Israel (and broadly anything Jewish related) seems to be an absolute taboo and a crackdown ensues immediately. Why is the default government position supportive regardless of what's occurred? - it's literally a free pass to do whatever. So the Jewish population doesn’t “hold such sway” as you said in your previous post
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Post by gawa on May 30, 2024 19:35:16 GMT
Another tweet of Luke Akehursts It says underneath the post: “This is a doctored tweet. Luke never tweeted this.” It does seem a bit too extreme to be unlikely. You can make hundreds of comments about a group of people without going as far as to say that they should be exterminated like rats. Yeah Jamie has since corrected the record on that. The fact so many people thought it came from him show what he's capable of. I've argued and spatted back and forth with him on twitter in the past. I'm well read on Luke the Nuke and he is despicable. Even has the audacity to try and justify some of his remarks in this interview.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 30, 2024 19:50:25 GMT
Yeah Jamie has since corrected the record on that. The fact so many people thought it came from him show what he's capable of. That's such a bad take. I have zero idea of who either of the people in the Tweet are but all it shows is how so many people nowadays are happy to believe anything if it suits their agenda. Shit like this sticks... "D'yer remember that time such & such said this, that & the other?! Shows what a 'enter ism here' they are"... Only problem is, they never actually said it, but it suited the agenda so everyone ran with it.
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Post by mrnovember on May 30, 2024 20:02:24 GMT
Jesus fucking wept we're such a nation of fannies and tittle tattlers it's fucking pathetic. He said this on twitter and she said liked this tweet or that comment. People need to grow the fuck up.
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Post by gawa on May 30, 2024 21:09:04 GMT
Yeah Jamie has since corrected the record on that. The fact so many people thought it came from him show what he's capable of. That's such a bad take. I have zero idea of who either of the people in the Tweet are but all it shows is how so many people nowadays are happy to believe anything if it suits their agenda. Shit like this sticks... "D'yer remember that time such & such said this, that & the other?! Shows what a 'enter ism here' they are"... Only problem is, they never actually said it, but it suited the agenda so everyone ran with it. Is this a random attack on me? Weird. I admit when I'm wrong, like in the post you've partially quoted above. I don't "believe anything" and I'm not sure what you mean by agenda. If wanting people to know I think Luke is a prick is an agenda then it is one. But it's been long before he became a Labour candidate as I've been talking about him for months. Tbh what annoys me is when people have no interest in doing any research on a subject and even enter it saying they have zero knowledge on the subject of the posts. But in the same sentence they want to accuse others of believing anything.... Bro you've just read a "community note" applied to a tweet on X (owned by one of the richest men in the world), on a subject about people whom you admit you know nothing about, and concluded that must be true because its in a community note. Can't you see the irony in that like? At least I can say I've followed Luke for a long time, debated with him, challenged him and followed him. And when I made my incorrect judgement I was applying all that research before doing it. You've done nothing and just believed something because a community note on twitter says that. And you want to say to me about believing anything? 🤣. Cmon mate. In terms of agenda I think you mean opinion more. Do I think Luke is a prick? Yes. Do I think Starmer is a poor leader? Yes. Would I prefer if labour didn't have a huge majority? Yes.
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Post by gawa on May 30, 2024 21:37:19 GMT
Honestly there's no pleasing some people on here.
Don't like it when we criticise the tories. Don't like it when we criticise labour. Don't like it when we debate with the right wing. Don't like it when we debate with the left wing.
I know my opinions are a bit overbearing and relentless. But I think this is important. Everything is fucked right now. Immigration, NHS, water, housing, economy, foreign affairs. You name it.
Labour look like they may get a huge majority through people voting for them out of protest. My agenda is simply being consistent and highlighting labours actions like I do with tory.
Like I said - I know I'm overbearing. So feel free to put me on ignore, I won't be offended.
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Post by mrnovember on May 30, 2024 21:53:26 GMT
Honestly there's no pleasing some people on here. Don't like it when we criticise the tories. Don't like it when we criticise labour. Don't like it when we debate with the right wing. Don't like it when we debate with the left wing. I know my opinions are a bit overbearing and relentless. But I think this is important. Everything is fucked right now. Immigration, NHS, water, housing, economy, foreign affairs. You name it. Labour look like they may get a huge majority through people voting for them out of protest. My agenda is simply being consistent and highlighting labours actions like I do with tory. Like I said - I know I'm overbearing. So feel free to put me on ignore, I won't be offended. When you say we?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 30, 2024 22:41:12 GMT
Jesus fucking wept we're such a nation of fannies and tittle tattlers it's fucking pathetic. He said this on twitter and she said liked this tweet or that comment. People need to grow the fuck up. Do you know WHY people are discussing this?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 30, 2024 23:09:33 GMT
This is outright corruption isn't it?
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Post by wannabee on May 30, 2024 23:15:47 GMT
That's such a bad take. I have zero idea of who either of the people in the Tweet are but all it shows is how so many people nowadays are happy to believe anything if it suits their agenda. Shit like this sticks... "D'yer remember that time such & such said this, that & the other?! Shows what a 'enter ism here' they are"... Only problem is, they never actually said it, but it suited the agenda so everyone ran with it. Is this a random attack on me? Weird. I admit when I'm wrong, like in the post you've partially quoted above. I don't "believe anything" and I'm not sure what you mean by agenda. If wanting people to know I think Luke is a prick is an agenda then it is one. But it's been long before he became a Labour candidate as I've been talking about him for months. Tbh what annoys me is when people have no interest in doing any research on a subject and even enter it saying they have zero knowledge on the subject of the posts. But in the same sentence they want to accuse others of believing anything.... Bro you've just read a "community note" applied to a tweet on X (owned by one of the richest men in the world), on a subject about people whom you admit you know nothing about, and concluded that must be true because its in a community note. Can't you see the irony in that like? At least I can say I've followed Luke for a long time, debated with him, challenged him and followed him. And when I made my incorrect judgement I was applying all that research before doing it. You've done nothing and just believed something because a community note on twitter says that. And you want to say to me about believing anything? 🤣. Cmon mate. In terms of agenda I think you mean opinion more. Do I think Luke is a prick? Yes. Do I think Starmer is a poor leader? Yes. Would I prefer if labour didn't have a huge majority? Yes. Let's establish in case there is any doubt Luke Akehurst is a piece of shit, he also has dubious connections and quite possibly a competing agenda beyond allegiance to the Labour Party Don't you think the underlined in your post is disengenuous when you introduce fake information..... possibly not for the first time, yet you chide others for not adequately doing research. Also for the record the circumstances which provoked the exchange between Jamie Driscoll and Luke Akehurst, the sharing of a platform with Ken Loach was a thundering disgrace. I
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Post by wannabee on May 30, 2024 23:30:23 GMT
This is outright corruption isn't it? It becomes complicated, are you suggesting Gurinder Singh Josan a Trustee of Hope Not Hate has in some way been compromised?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 31, 2024 0:15:36 GMT
This is outright corruption isn't it? It becomes complicated, are you suggesting Gurinder Singh Josan a Trustee of Hope Not Hate has in some way been compromised? Yeah I am, we've got NEC members (that have just deselected another MP) rewarding THEMSELVES with the safest of safe seats the very next day.
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Post by wannabee on May 31, 2024 0:46:30 GMT
It becomes complicated, are you suggesting Gurinder Singh Josan a Trustee of Hope Not Hate has in some way been compromised? Yeah I am, we've got NEC members (that have just deselected another MP) rewarding THEMSELVES with the safest of safe seats the very next day. It's Murky
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 31, 2024 0:51:49 GMT
Yeah I am, we've got NEC members (that have just deselected another MP) rewarding THEMSELVES with the safest of safe seats the very next day. It's Murky Inded it is. It's murkier than something that's been dipped in the murkiest bucket of murk!
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Post by mrnovember on May 31, 2024 5:44:50 GMT
Jesus fucking wept we're such a nation of fannies and tittle tattlers it's fucking pathetic. He said this on twitter and she said liked this tweet or that comment. People need to grow the fuck up. Do you know WHY people are discussing this? If you're teeing me up for a bit of your good old fashioned ridiculing, go straight for the money shot, I hate being edged. Give me some of those fancy italics baby. Give it to me hard, come down on like I'm the left wing element of the Labour Party and your Sir Kier. Infiltrate me like an Israeli stooge.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 31, 2024 5:54:10 GMT
This is outright corruption isn't it? Apparently not mate, due to the very small window between selection and polling. That's what the Starmerites are saying anyway.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 31, 2024 5:55:07 GMT
Is this a random attack on me? Weird. I admit when I'm wrong, like in the post you've partially quoted above. I don't "believe anything" and I'm not sure what you mean by agenda. If wanting people to know I think Luke is a prick is an agenda then it is one. But it's been long before he became a Labour candidate as I've been talking about him for months. Tbh what annoys me is when people have no interest in doing any research on a subject and even enter it saying they have zero knowledge on the subject of the posts. But in the same sentence they want to accuse others of believing anything.... Bro you've just read a "community note" applied to a tweet on X (owned by one of the richest men in the world), on a subject about people whom you admit you know nothing about, and concluded that must be true because its in a community note. Can't you see the irony in that like? At least I can say I've followed Luke for a long time, debated with him, challenged him and followed him. And when I made my incorrect judgement I was applying all that research before doing it. You've done nothing and just believed something because a community note on twitter says that. And you want to say to me about believing anything? 🤣. Cmon mate. In terms of agenda I think you mean opinion more. Do I think Luke is a prick? Yes. Do I think Starmer is a poor leader? Yes. Would I prefer if labour didn't have a huge majority? Yes. Let's establish in case there is any doubt Luke Akehurst is a piece of shit, he also has dubious connections and quite possibly a competing agenda beyond allegiance to the Labour Party Don't you think the underlined in your post is disengenuous when you introduce fake information..... possibly not for the first time, yet you chide others for not adequately doing research. Also for the record the circumstances which provoked the exchange between Jamie Driscoll and Luke Akehurst, the sharing of a platform with Ken Loach was a thundering disgrace. I Akehurst is quite simply an Israeli asset.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 31, 2024 6:00:37 GMT
Bring on the Euros
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 31, 2024 6:51:06 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 31, 2024 6:53:21 GMT
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Post by atillathehoneybee on May 31, 2024 7:05:08 GMT
I'm beginning to wonder if Labour are gonna fuck it up and lose the election, slight swing in polls suggest it's not as cut and dry as it was a month ago, let's hope I'm right eh Huddy.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 31, 2024 7:22:44 GMT
It's up to 6 NEC members that have voted themselves as candidates for safe Labour seats now.
Nice work if you can get it......
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Post by gawa on May 31, 2024 7:48:13 GMT
Is this a random attack on me? Weird. I admit when I'm wrong, like in the post you've partially quoted above. I don't "believe anything" and I'm not sure what you mean by agenda. If wanting people to know I think Luke is a prick is an agenda then it is one. But it's been long before he became a Labour candidate as I've been talking about him for months. Tbh what annoys me is when people have no interest in doing any research on a subject and even enter it saying they have zero knowledge on the subject of the posts. But in the same sentence they want to accuse others of believing anything.... Bro you've just read a "community note" applied to a tweet on X (owned by one of the richest men in the world), on a subject about people whom you admit you know nothing about, and concluded that must be true because its in a community note. Can't you see the irony in that like? At least I can say I've followed Luke for a long time, debated with him, challenged him and followed him. And when I made my incorrect judgement I was applying all that research before doing it. You've done nothing and just believed something because a community note on twitter says that. And you want to say to me about believing anything? 🤣. Cmon mate. In terms of agenda I think you mean opinion more. Do I think Luke is a prick? Yes. Do I think Starmer is a poor leader? Yes. Would I prefer if labour didn't have a huge majority? Yes. Let's establish in case there is any doubt Luke Akehurst is a piece of shit, he also has dubious connections and quite possibly a competing agenda beyond allegiance to the Labour Party Don't you think the underlined in your post is disengenuous when you introduce fake information..... possibly not for the first time, yet you chide others for not adequately doing research. Also for the record the circumstances which provoked the exchange between Jamie Driscoll and Luke Akehurst, the sharing of a platform with Ken Loach was a thundering disgrace. I I don't think it is disingenuous to post something I believe to be true knowing Lukes history and then to correct the record when I realise it isn't true. I don't see any issue with sharing a platform with Ken Loach. An excellent socialist campaigner over the last number of decades who has fought for the many against the few.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 31, 2024 8:00:41 GMT
Let's establish in case there is any doubt Luke Akehurst is a piece of shit, he also has dubious connections and quite possibly a competing agenda beyond allegiance to the Labour Party Don't you think the underlined in your post is disengenuous when you introduce fake information..... possibly not for the first time, yet you chide others for not adequately doing research. Also for the record the circumstances which provoked the exchange between Jamie Driscoll and Luke Akehurst, the sharing of a platform with Ken Loach was a thundering disgrace. I I don't think it is disingenuous to post something I believe to be true knowing Lukes history and then to correct the record when I realise it isn't true. I don't see any issue with sharing a platform with Ken Loach. An excellent socialist campaigner over the last number of decades who has fought for the many against the few. It would be an honour to share a platform with Ken Loach. The man is a hero.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 31, 2024 8:01:18 GMT
It's up to 6 NEC members that have voted themselves as candidates for safe Labour seats now. Nice work if you can get it...... While citing the lack of time for a proper selection process of course...
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Post by gawa on May 31, 2024 8:22:22 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 31, 2024 8:33:15 GMT
Do you know WHY people are discussing this? If you're teeing me up for a bit of your good old fashioned ridiculing, go straight for the money shot, I hate being edged. Give me some of those fancy italics baby. Give it to me hard, come down on like I'm the left wing element of the Labour Party and your Sir Kier. Infiltrate me like an Israeli stooge. 🥱 Just thought than before you went off on some mad rant, you might have considered what is was you were actually ranting about ...
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Post by gawa on May 31, 2024 8:38:00 GMT
Do you know WHY people are discussing this? If you're teeing me up for a bit of your good old fashioned ridiculing, go straight for the money shot, I hate being edged. Give me some of those fancy italics baby. Give it to me hard, come down on like I'm the left wing element of the Labour Party and your Sir Kier. Infiltrate me like an Israeli stooge. How did I miss this. 🤣🤣.
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