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Post by iancransonsknees on Feb 3, 2024 12:30:16 GMT
Starmer should keep his gob shut. This crazy lot potentially have a main budget and an Autumn Statement before they're kicked out and I'm pretty sure they'll do everything they can to derail anything Starmer has planned. I don't think he's very clever. He's had to abandon most of the pledges he made when he became leader, and even now he's having to draw back on some of the things he's said since. He's most certainly not an intellectual. OS. Attachment Deleted
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Post by felonious on Feb 3, 2024 12:52:34 GMT
Starmer should keep his gob shut. This crazy lot potentially have a main budget and an Autumn Statement before they're kicked out and I'm pretty sure they'll do everything they can to derail anything Starmer has planned. I don't think he's very clever. He's had to abandon most of the pledges he made when he became leader, and even now he's having to draw back on some of the things he's said since. He's most certainly not an intellectual. OS. View AttachmentThe Blair's bitch project?
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Post by wannabee on Feb 3, 2024 13:55:07 GMT
This is genuinely just plain wrong ... I'm a bit conflicted on this. They both have a history of making statements, not just about Palestine, contrary to Labour Policy, then retracting and apologising for them. Osamor is currently suspended so is ineligible to stand for Labour unless reinstated. Ali was imposed to stand by NEC at last GE when the previous Labour MP was suspended My conflict is that if I were in either Ali's or Osomor's Constituency I would agree with their position on Palestine and probably vote for them either as an Independent or Labour Candidate When the GE is called each of the Parties will put forward its Manifesto, how can a candidate stand in an Election if it doesn't support that Manifesto or the Party Leadership Waga finds this Orwellian but this was writ large at the last GE where dozens of sitting Conservative MPs were purged, God knows what he thought in 2019 Overall it reinforces the call for Electoral Reform where a diversity of opinion can be aired unlike the current 2 Party System which requires allegiance to the Party and discourages free thinking.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 5, 2024 16:21:19 GMT
Bok bok....
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 5, 2024 19:10:33 GMT
“Is he going to be shit?”
I’ve given this some thought: He has been shit, is currently shit so it’s logical to assume he is going to be shit.
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Post by andromeda on Feb 6, 2024 17:55:54 GMT
Duplicitous spunkbubble. Couldn’t trust him to run a bath.
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Post by gawa on Feb 8, 2024 1:39:38 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Feb 8, 2024 2:45:51 GMT
Well I'm shocked The Torygraph employ Racist Journalist's to scribble Articles behind a Pay Wall for the titillation of its Subscribers You could've knocked me down with a feather
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 8, 2024 8:10:25 GMT
To sum up the original title,yes Starmer is going to be shit be also he is going to be the next PM. Quite a few of the people I know are absolutely livid at the Green Investment being ditched.It was one of the main reasons they were voting for Labour. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif)
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 8, 2024 9:07:56 GMT
Dianne Abbott's hierarchy of racism. She gets more on point by the day..........
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 8, 2024 9:08:38 GMT
To sum up the original title,yes Starmer is going to be shit be also he is going to be the next PM. Quite a few of the people I know are absolutely livid at the Green Investment being ditched.It was one of the main reasons they were voting for Labour. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) On the plus side I don't think he's got anything left to ditch.......
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 8, 2024 9:22:35 GMT
To sum up the original title,yes Starmer is going to be shit be also he is going to be the next PM. Quite a few of the people I know are absolutely livid at the Green Investment being ditched.It was one of the main reasons they were voting for Labour. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) On the plus side I don't think he's got anything left to ditch....... Ditching plans pre manifesto is fine in my opinion. I would prefer he produces a fully costed and well thought through manifesto relevant to the economic circumstances at the time of the election rather than sticking to pledges he made before knowing all the economic facts. Some people are critical of Starmer for ditching his leadership bid pledges! Since then the UK has deteriorated in almost every way, for example the national debt has more than tripled.
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Post by adri2008 on Feb 8, 2024 10:58:19 GMT
On the plus side I don't think he's got anything left to ditch....... Ditching plans pre manifesto is fine in my opinion. I would prefer he produces a fully costed and well thought through manifesto relevant to the economic circumstances at the time of the election rather than sticking to pledges he made before knowing all the economic facts. Some people are critical of Starmer for ditching his leadership bid pledges! Since then the UK has deteriorated in almost every way, for example the national debt has more than tripled. Doesn't seem to have any ideas on how to improve the situation is the problem I have. Managed decline is what's going to occur and it'll open the door for a populist movement (probably Farage led) in 5 years time.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 8, 2024 12:08:56 GMT
On the plus side I don't think he's got anything left to ditch....... Ditching plans pre manifesto is fine in my opinion. I would prefer he produces a fully costed and well thought through manifesto relevant to the economic circumstances at the time of the election rather than sticking to pledges he made before knowing all the economic facts. Some people are critical of Starmer for ditching his leadership bid pledges! Since then the UK has deteriorated in almost every way, for example the national debt has more than tripled. I agree but 99% of the population wont see it like that especially when the media get their teeth into it.
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Post by gawa on Feb 8, 2024 12:23:49 GMT
On the plus side I don't think he's got anything left to ditch....... Ditching plans pre manifesto is fine in my opinion. I would prefer he produces a fully costed and well thought through manifesto relevant to the economic circumstances at the time of the election rather than sticking to pledges he made before knowing all the economic facts. Some people are critical of Starmer for ditching his leadership bid pledges! Since then the UK has deteriorated in almost every way, for example the national debt has more than tripled. Just would be nice to have reasons to vote for him. I've got a book of reasons not to vote the torys but it would be nice to have the option to vote someone in who brings hope and promise rather than voting them because they're not a tory. Which is where alot of us are now at.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 13:47:03 GMT
John McTernan on Sky News saying that Starmer should just take the piss out of Sunak every time he speaks because that’s what the public wants from their politicians (I couldn’t agree less). He says “politics is a contact sport” 😂. Just imagine. You can guarantee that the vast majority of these politicians took in sicknotes begging for amnesty from any contact sports at school.
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 8, 2024 13:55:53 GMT
Ditching plans pre manifesto is fine in my opinion. I would prefer he produces a fully costed and well thought through manifesto relevant to the economic circumstances at the time of the election rather than sticking to pledges he made before knowing all the economic facts. Some people are critical of Starmer for ditching his leadership bid pledges! Since then the UK has deteriorated in almost every way, for example the national debt has more than tripled. Just would be nice to have reasons to vote for him. I've got a book of reasons not to vote the torys but it would be nice to have the option to vote someone in who brings hope and promise rather than voting them because they're not a tory. Which is where alot of us are now at. Not so much the hope and promise part of it for me, more the trait of having the conviction to carry out policies for the better of the UK as a whole, however hard that may be. Pandering to people just doesnt work as youre trying to please everyone all of the time and you end up pleasing no one. The current bunch of shysters have proven their worth in not giving a toss and I would bet a pound to a pinch that the next lot would do exactly the same. Time for some tough love and strong leadership.
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 8, 2024 14:10:45 GMT
Ditching plans pre manifesto is fine in my opinion. I would prefer he produces a fully costed and well thought through manifesto relevant to the economic circumstances at the time of the election rather than sticking to pledges he made before knowing all the economic facts. Some people are critical of Starmer for ditching his leadership bid pledges! Since then the UK has deteriorated in almost every way, for example the national debt has more than tripled. Just would be nice to have reasons to vote for him. I've got a book of reasons not to vote the torys but it would be nice to have the option to vote someone in who brings hope and promise rather than voting them because they're not a tory. Which is where alot of us are now at. Our electoral system means we don’t vote for who we want, we vote against who we don’t want. So, sadly, Starmer doesn’t need to give many reasons to vote for him. But let’s see what his manifesto says before jumping to conclusions on what he will or won’t do.
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Post by phileetin on Feb 8, 2024 14:45:17 GMT
Just would be nice to have reasons to vote for him. I've got a book of reasons not to vote the torys but it would be nice to have the option to vote someone in who brings hope and promise rather than voting them because they're not a tory. Which is where alot of us are now at. Our electoral system means we don’t vote for who we want, we vote against who we don’t want. So, sadly, Starmer doesn’t need to give many reasons to vote for him. But let’s see what his manifesto says before jumping to conclusions on what he will or won’t do. He'll say there's no money , spend it anyway , and blame the tories . then leave another note.
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 8, 2024 14:47:27 GMT
Our electoral system means we don’t vote for who we want, we vote against who we don’t want. So, sadly, Starmer doesn’t need to give many reasons to vote for him. But let’s see what his manifesto says before jumping to conclusions on what he will or won’t do. He'll say there's no money , spend it anyway , and blame the tories . then leave another note. Don’t give up your day job to write election manifestos.
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Post by phileetin on Feb 8, 2024 16:27:06 GMT
Starmer appears to be a racist . fact every advert on tv has black / ethnically challenged people in them in nearly every frame . Can you spot any in this labour ad fb.watch/q4Kq08ExpB/perhaps they are all transgender ?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 8, 2024 16:32:19 GMT
John McTernan on Sky News saying that Starmer should just take the piss out of Sunak every time he speaks because that’s what the public wants from their politicians (I couldn’t agree less). He says “politics is a contact sport” 😂. Just imagine. You can guarantee that the vast majority of these politicians took in sicknotes begging for amnesty from any contact sports at school. One of the main instigators of Labours catastrophic collapse in Scotland, I reminded him of that one too many times on Twitter before he blocked me. Talks a good game though......
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 8, 2024 16:53:26 GMT
On the plus side I don't think he's got anything left to ditch....... Ditching plans pre manifesto is fine in my opinion. I would prefer he produces a fully costed and well thought through manifesto relevant to the economic circumstances at the time of the election rather than sticking to pledges he made before knowing all the economic facts. Some people are critical of Starmer for ditching his leadership bid pledges! Since then the UK has deteriorated in almost every way, for example the national debt has more than tripled. To just quote the national debt like it's a household debt is disingenuous of the Labour Party though, I fully understand that reckless spending would be daft however something like the home insulation scheme reduces emissions, reduces the household bills of the poorest in society who spend spare cash in their local economies, and creates decent quality jobs that young people can be trained up to do. You have to increase tax revenue and stimulate a stagnant economy or you just slosh about in a pool of your own piss for the next 5 years. Speculate to accumulate.......
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 8, 2024 17:11:43 GMT
Starmer appears to be a racist . fact every advert on tv has black / ethnically challenged people in them in nearly every frame . Can you spot any in this labour ad fb.watch/q4Kq08ExpB/perhaps they are all transgender ? ??????
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Post by wannabee on Feb 8, 2024 17:22:50 GMT
Our electoral system means we don’t vote for who we want, we vote against who we don’t want. So, sadly, Starmer doesn’t need to give many reasons to vote for him. But let’s see what his manifesto says before jumping to conclusions on what he will or won’t do. He'll say there's no money , spend it anyway , and blame the tories . then leave another note. In 2010 The Conservatives inherited a Debt of £1Trn at 70% of GDP Conservatives have managed to run that Debt up to more than £2.5Trn and at more than 100% of GDP Liz Truss's brief Cameo have caused Bond Rates to more than Double to service that Debt While at the same time Tax Rates are at the highest in 70 Years Quite a Catalogue of Fiscal Mismanagement
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Post by 4372 on Feb 8, 2024 19:13:23 GMT
Our electoral system means we don’t vote for who we want, we vote against who we don’t want. So, sadly, Starmer doesn’t need to give many reasons to vote for him. But let’s see what his manifesto says before jumping to conclusions on what he will or won’t do. He'll say there's no money , spend it anyway , and blame the tories . then leave another note. "I'm afraid there is no money" wrote Liam Byrne in 2010. Well, the Tories have spent it anyway,and blame anybody but themselves. Their next note will read: "I'm afraid there is no excuse. We ***ked up the economy, the country, our Human Rights Record, the constitution, the UK inside the EU, controlled immigration, the NHS, Dentistry, HS2, Steel, mortgages, the private rental market,Education, Nursing and Doctors pay and conditions, Local Government, the Civil Service, and the fundamental principles upon which good government is based.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 19:22:05 GMT
Starmer appears to be a racist . fact every advert on tv has black / ethnically challenged people in them in nearly every frame . Can you spot any in this labour ad fb.watch/q4Kq08ExpB/perhaps they are all transgender ? What the fuck is “ethnically challenged”?
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 8, 2024 19:27:09 GMT
Our electoral system means we don’t vote for who we want, we vote against who we don’t want. So, sadly, Starmer doesn’t need to give many reasons to vote for him. But let’s see what his manifesto says before jumping to conclusions on what he will or won’t do. He'll say there's no money , spend it anyway , and blame the tories . then leave another note. I think it's reasonable to blame the people who have been running the country for the last 14 years don't you? Who would you blame?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 8, 2024 19:27:55 GMT
Starmer appears to be a racist . fact every advert on tv has black / ethnically challenged people in them in nearly every frame . Can you spot any in this labour ad fb.watch/q4Kq08ExpB/perhaps they are all transgender ? What the fuck is “ethnically challenged”? University style game show on Djibouti TV I think
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 8, 2024 19:54:52 GMT
Starmer appears to be a racist . fact every advert on tv has black / ethnically challenged people in them in nearly every frame . Can you spot any in this labour ad fb.watch/q4Kq08ExpB/perhaps they are all transgender ? Wow “Ethnically challenged” You’re taking in way too much of this culture war nonsense.
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