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Post by wannabee on Oct 28, 2023 11:29:40 GMT
His objective is Power, if he succeeds we will see if it's Power for Power sake or to make good decisions The Conservatives are desperate to link him to Corbyn He's making the calculation that he'll lose less votes supporting the Government position than by opposing it A Conviction Politician he ain't
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Post by gawa on Oct 28, 2023 11:37:34 GMT
Corbyn needs to setup a new party in my opinion. There is still huge support for him across the UK that don't fall for the propoganda.
We desperately need left wing representation and aside from the Green party there is none.
Starmers Labour offers nothing for the left of society aside from getting the tories out of office.
This country desperately needs a left wing party led by Corbyn.
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Post by gawa on Oct 28, 2023 11:48:36 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 28, 2023 19:45:13 GMT
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Post by Davef on Oct 28, 2023 20:00:16 GMT
Corbyn needs to setup a new party in my opinion. There is still huge support for him across the UK that don't fall for the propoganda. We desperately need left wing representation and aside from the Green party there is none. Starmers Labour offers nothing for the left of society aside from getting the tories out of office. This country desperately needs a left wing party led by Corbyn. And you'll have five more years of the Tories.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 28, 2023 20:07:44 GMT
Corbyn needs to setup a new party in my opinion. There is still huge support for him across the UK that don't fall for the propoganda. We desperately need left wing representation and aside from the Green party there is none. Starmers Labour offers nothing for the left of society aside from getting the tories out of office. This country desperately needs a left wing party led by Corbyn. And you'll have five more years of the Tories. Will anyone notice the difference?
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Post by gawa on Oct 28, 2023 20:10:12 GMT
Corbyn needs to setup a new party in my opinion. There is still huge support for him across the UK that don't fall for the propoganda. We desperately need left wing representation and aside from the Green party there is none. Starmers Labour offers nothing for the left of society aside from getting the tories out of office. This country desperately needs a left wing party led by Corbyn. And you'll have five more years of the Tories. Feels like its going to be 5 years of Tory with starmer too. Lose lose with either party at the moment.
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Post by gawa on Oct 30, 2023 21:35:01 GMT
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Post by gawa on Oct 30, 2023 21:40:00 GMT
#StarmerOutNOW
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 30, 2023 21:42:51 GMT
I’m sure the Socialist Campaign Group members in the Parliamentary Labour Party will write another strongly worded letter. Cowards……..
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Post by gawa on Oct 31, 2023 11:03:37 GMT
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Post by gawa on Nov 1, 2023 21:40:23 GMT
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Post by gawa on Nov 5, 2023 21:28:17 GMT
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Post by phileetin on Nov 6, 2023 9:31:33 GMT
the mp's should follow suit , it's terrible that he just keeps echoing usa policy , the palestinians are really suffering.
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Post by gawa on Nov 7, 2023 22:16:13 GMT
Decent speech today
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Post by elystokie on Nov 7, 2023 22:40:51 GMT
Fair play, that was quite brutal, look forward to the rest later.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 8, 2023 9:22:42 GMT
I've been giving him a bit of a slagging recently due to his stance on Gaza but that was very, very good. The difference in the looks on the faces of Sunak and Braverman was quite something.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 8, 2023 11:23:34 GMT
His speech in full, I'm quite impressed, if he can see some sort of common sense on drug policies I might even vote for him.
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 8, 2023 12:47:30 GMT
His speech in full, I'm quite impressed, if he can see some sort of common sense on drug policies I might even vote for him. Wouldn't hold your breath on that one mate.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 8, 2023 13:25:43 GMT
His speech in full, I'm quite impressed, if he can see some sort of common sense on drug policies I might even vote for him. Wouldn't hold your breath on that one mate. We have to vote for him. The alternative will be to, one day, have that vile person sitting on his left as the probable PM. Starmer is right. She's jockeying for the top job with her draconian ideology. OS.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 13:26:44 GMT
His speech in full, I'm quite impressed, if he can see some sort of common sense on drug policies I might even vote for him. “They can’t see Britain. The walls of this place are too high.” He should thank his speech writer for that. On a separate note, I think that speech writers should be banned.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2023 13:34:48 GMT
Wouldn't hold your breath on that one mate. We have to vote for him. The alternative will be to, one day, have that vile person sitting on his left as the probable PM. Starmer is right. She's jockeying for the top job with her draconian ideology. OS. I would rather stick my dick in a food processor than vote for that wanker I shall stick to my intention a place none of the above on my ballot
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 8, 2023 13:45:36 GMT
Wouldn't hold your breath on that one mate. We have to vote for him. The alternative will be to, one day, have that vile person sitting on his left as the probable PM. Starmer is right. She's jockeying for the top job with her draconian ideology. OS. I agree but for me its the lesser of the two evils.
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 8, 2023 14:47:13 GMT
We have to vote for him. The alternative will be to, one day, have that vile person sitting on his left as the probable PM. Starmer is right. She's jockeying for the top job with her draconian ideology. OS. I would rather stick my dick in a food processor than vote for that wanker I shall stick to my intention a place none of the above on my ballot Silence is no reaction. Start from the beginning and first of all get rid of this government.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 16:42:00 GMT
We have to vote for him. The alternative will be to, one day, have that vile person sitting on his left as the probable PM. Starmer is right. She's jockeying for the top job with her draconian ideology. OS. I agree but for me its the lesser of the two evils. Unfortunately, that’s a very hard sell. It worked for Biden but not for Hilary. Starmer has a fine line to walk. He has to be careful not to unleash the right wing media storm that will undoubtedly finish his chances while also finding a way to actually motivate people to get up and vote. I fear that, for many, not being as bad as the Tories is simply not good enough. On the campaign trail, Starmer really needs to push the track record of the Tories on the economy. At least that could dissuade a number of their core voters from getting up as well.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 8, 2023 19:33:18 GMT
We have to vote for him. The alternative will be to, one day, have that vile person sitting on his left as the probable PM. Starmer is right. She's jockeying for the top job with her draconian ideology. OS. I agree but for me its the lesser of the two evils. If anyone is so against him, if you live in a place where tactical voting would work, vote for the Lib Dems. I would certainly do that. OS.
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 9, 2023 9:31:04 GMT
I agree but for me its the lesser of the two evils. If anyone is so against him, if you live in a place where tactical voting would work, vote for the Lib Dems. I would certainly do that. OS. I think this will happen a lot this time. The SNP will lose many seats to Labour in Scotland and as you say many of the swing councils, the people will vote tactically possibly more than ever.
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 9, 2023 9:41:18 GMT
I agree but for me its the lesser of the two evils. Unfortunately, that’s a very hard sell. It worked for Biden but not for Hilary. Starmer has a fine line to walk. He has to be careful not to unleash the right wing media storm that will undoubtedly finish his chances while also finding a way to actually motivate people to get up and vote. I fear that, for many, not being as bad as the Tories is simply not good enough. On the campaign trail, Starmer really needs to push the track record of the Tories on the economy. At least that could dissuade a number of their core voters from getting up as well. Im not sure he has to sell an awful lot, the way the Tories are squabbling and self destructing all he has to do is do nothing stupid. I know that's pathetic but maybe true. He has for certain upset many of the left of the party and enraged many Labour supporters with his non stance on the Israeli/Palestine war.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 9, 2023 9:49:35 GMT
He's an actual grown up with grown up policies and isn't playing Students Union politics.
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 9, 2023 10:04:48 GMT
After doing a quick catch up on this thread and the Tory Government thread, wouldnt it be easier just to merge the 2....?
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