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Post by Paul Spencer on May 13, 2020 15:58:01 GMT
Social distancing in French schools Obviously apart from many people losing their lives to this terrible virus, that last image to me is fucking tragic Isn't it just but I guess this is the new reality. The thing I don't get though, is where are all the other kids who would ordinarily be in the playground at the same time as well? Same question for the classroom. Isn't it essentially impossible for children to socially distance themselves in school, surely the classrooms and the playgrounds are simply not big enough to allow them to do so?
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Post by neworleanstokie on May 13, 2020 15:58:49 GMT
Road traffic is definitely picking up in Manhattan today. I would estimate 90% of pedestrians are wearing masks/face covering which is helping us maintain a downward trend.
Why is the UK government advising people not to purchase face masks that are widely available on eBay? Clearly the NHS is not buying via consumer channels.
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Post by chad on May 13, 2020 16:12:43 GMT
Starmer has written to Johnson to request that he returns to the House to correct the record about this. They simply don't give a fuck do they. Lying (and a mealy mouthed bullshit denial) during a national crisis and no responsibility or regret for the utter disaster caused by their negligence in the care sector. They are beneath contempt. No 10 rejects Starmer's claim that Johnson misled MPs about official care home adviceNo 10 has rejected Sir Keir Starmer’s claim that Boris Johnson misled MPs at PMQs when the PM said it “wasn’t true” that the care home sector had been advised it was unlikely to face an outbreak. Starmer has written to Johnson asking him to return to the Commons to correct the record. At PMQs Starmer said that until 12 March official guidance said it remained the case that it was very unlikely that people in care homes were going to be infected by coronavirus, but Johnson told Starmer that wasn’t true. The document clearly says: This guidance is intended for the current position in the UK where there is currently no transmission of Covid-19 in the community. It is therefore very unlikely that anyone receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected.
A source said that Starmer had “inaccurately and selectively” quoted from the document, and that therefore the PM was right to say what Starmer said was not right. The source said that in his question Starmer talking about it remaining the case that people in care were unlikely to be infected (the document does not use the word “remains” at that point) and the source said the full quote (see above) made it clear that this assurance covered a period where there was no community transmission. Starmer did not include the word “therefore”, the source said. The source signalled that Johnson would not be retracting what he said. So. Starmer was wrong then Hard to accept I suppose
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Post by dutchstokie on May 13, 2020 16:13:21 GMT
Are we all friends on here today?
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Post by crapslinger on May 13, 2020 16:14:15 GMT
Road traffic is definitely picking up in Manhattan today. I would estimate 90% of pedestrians are wearing masks/face covering which is helping us maintain a downward trend. Why is the UK government advising people not to purchase face masks that are widely available on eBay? Clearly the NHS is not buying via consumer channels. I ordered a decent reusable mask over a month ago via ebay "Uk seller" still not arrived, Uk seller my arse checked shipping from China lying fcuking bastard, reported to ebay who have closed the sellers account and refunded my money, beware "Uk" sellers on ebay.
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Post by yeokel on May 13, 2020 16:15:11 GMT
Starmer has written to Johnson to request that he returns to the House to correct the record about this. They simply don't give a fuck do they. Lying (and a mealy mouthed bullshit denial) during a national crisis and no responsibility or regret for the utter disaster caused by their negligence in the care sector. They are beneath contempt. No 10 rejects Starmer's claim that Johnson misled MPs about official care home adviceNo 10 has rejected Sir Keir Starmer’s claim that Boris Johnson misled MPs at PMQs when the PM said it “wasn’t true” that the care home sector had been advised it was unlikely to face an outbreak. Starmer has written to Johnson asking him to return to the Commons to correct the record. At PMQs Starmer said that until 12 March official guidance said it remained the case that it was very unlikely that people in care homes were going to be infected by coronavirus, but Johnson told Starmer that wasn’t true. The document clearly says: This guidance is intended for the current position in the UK where there is currently no transmission of Covid-19 in the community. It is therefore very unlikely that anyone receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected.
A source said that Starmer had “inaccurately and selectively” quoted from the document, and that therefore the PM was right to say what Starmer said was not right. The source said that in his question Starmer talking about it remaining the case that people in care were unlikely to be infected (the document does not use the word “remains” at that point) and the source said the full quote (see above) made it clear that this assurance covered a period where there was no community transmission. Starmer did not include the word “therefore”, the source said. The source signalled that Johnson would not be retracting what he said. So Starmer inserted an extra word in to a “quotation” but you think that’s ok do you? I’m not so sure you would be as charitable if it had been Johnson who inserted an extra word in to something. In fact, it is probably a fair bet that if someone said they were quoting from you yourself, and inserted an extra word, you would be up in arms about it. But Starmer doing it at PMQs is alright by you because it opens the door for you to negatively comment on something that wasn’t actually said!!
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 13, 2020 16:16:03 GMT
They simply don't give a fuck do they. Lying (and a mealy mouthed bullshit denial) during a national crisis and no responsibility or regret for the utter disaster caused by their negligence in the care sector. They are beneath contempt. No 10 rejects Starmer's claim that Johnson misled MPs about official care home adviceNo 10 has rejected Sir Keir Starmer’s claim that Boris Johnson misled MPs at PMQs when the PM said it “wasn’t true” that the care home sector had been advised it was unlikely to face an outbreak. Starmer has written to Johnson asking him to return to the Commons to correct the record. At PMQs Starmer said that until 12 March official guidance said it remained the case that it was very unlikely that people in care homes were going to be infected by coronavirus, but Johnson told Starmer that wasn’t true. The document clearly says: This guidance is intended for the current position in the UK where there is currently no transmission of Covid-19 in the community. It is therefore very unlikely that anyone receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected.
A source said that Starmer had “inaccurately and selectively” quoted from the document, and that therefore the PM was right to say what Starmer said was not right. The source said that in his question Starmer talking about it remaining the case that people in care were unlikely to be infected (the document does not use the word “remains” at that point) and the source said the full quote (see above) made it clear that this assurance covered a period where there was no community transmission. Starmer did not include the word “therefore”, the source said. The source signalled that Johnson would not be retracting what he said. So. Starmer was wrong then Hard to accept I suppose No, it's clearly the lame explanation of a liar who has been caught out lying. It's pathetic. Only an absolute idiot would fall for it. Edit: And they clearly have
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Post by AlliG on May 13, 2020 16:19:51 GMT
Obviously apart from many people losing their lives to this terrible virus, that last image to me is fucking tragic Isn't it just but I guess this is the new reality. The thing I don't get though, is where are all the other kids who would ordinarily be in the playground at the same time as well? Same question for the classroom. Isn't it essentially impossible for children to socially distance themselves in school, surely the classrooms and the playgrounds are simply not big enough to allow them to do so? The BBC have just had a report on schooling from Denmark. The key point was that the headmaster said there were only 20 pupils per class in normal time and basically they have split the classes into two classes of 10 pupils each. Breaks etc have been staggered across the school day and the children only allowed outside in groups of 4 in designated areas of the playground. The model being used there would appear to be possible with modern single level schools, with small standard size classes and good size playgrounds and other outside areas. I wonder how many of our state schools would have the space to operate on that model?
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Post by yeokel on May 13, 2020 16:20:06 GMT
So. Starmer was wrong then Hard to accept I suppose No, it's clearly the lame explanation of a liar who has been caught out lying. It's pathetic. Only an absolute idiot would fall for it. Edit: And they clearly have Starmer lied. Johnson didn't. Only an absolute idiot could see it any other way.
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Post by questionable on May 13, 2020 16:21:34 GMT
And we let thousands of them come to Anfield when the virus was raging over there...
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 13, 2020 16:22:32 GMT
Obviously apart from many people losing their lives to this terrible virus, that last image to me is fucking tragic Isn't it just but I guess this is the new reality. The thing I don't get though, is where are all the other kids who would ordinarily be in the playground at the same time as well? Same question for the classroom. Isn't it essentially impossible for children to socially distance themselves in school, surely the classrooms and the playgrounds are simply not big enough to allow them to do so?
The schools will basically be mini "ghost towns" themselves Paul.
The other kids won't be there quite simply.
France are doing it in a similar way to what has been suggested over here i.e. kids aged 5,6 and 10 are the first lot to go back (so no other year groups are even in school), capped at around 10 kids per class, as they can use all of the empty classrooms not being used as so few students are in and breaks/lunchtimes are staggered so only a set amount of kids are eating/out in the playground at the same time.
Must be weird as fuck for the little kids (quite upsetting i'd imagine), horrible for the teachers and a nightmare for millions of parents (as it will be here) who are back to work themselves, but have nowhere to send their kids to during the day if they're not within the age groups returning as yet.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 13, 2020 16:23:50 GMT
No, it's clearly the lame explanation of a liar who has been caught out lying. It's pathetic. Only an absolute idiot would fall for it. Edit: And they clearly have Starmer lied. Johnson didn't. Only an absolute idiot could see it any other way. It's usual for the apologists to go to 'Full Fact' at this point. I wonder why they haven't? The cult of Johnson like (his many mistresses and various mothers of his children) still continue to swallow any old jizz!
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 13, 2020 16:23:50 GMT
You'll be pleased to know Dave, that Dee and I have both got excellent tans at the minute! 👍
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Post by stokeson on May 13, 2020 16:25:50 GMT
Since we were going to test 100,000 a day .How many days have we tested over 90,000?.....
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 13, 2020 16:26:30 GMT
Road traffic is definitely picking up in Manhattan today. I would estimate 90% of pedestrians are wearing masks/face covering which is helping us maintain a downward trend. Why is the UK government advising people not to purchase face masks that are widely available on eBay? Clearly the NHS is not buying via consumer channels. I ordered a decent reusable mask over a month ago via ebay "Uk seller" still not arrived, Uk seller my arse checked shipping from China lying fcuking bastard, reported to ebay who have closed the sellers account and refunded my money, beware "Uk" sellers on ebay. A good friend of mine is an official supplier of PPE. If anyone needs anything, personally or professionally, let me know via PM and I'll send you the details or put you in touch with him.
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Post by questionable on May 13, 2020 16:28:34 GMT
No, it's clearly the lame explanation of a liar who has been caught out lying. It's pathetic. Only an absolute idiot would fall for it. Edit: And they clearly have Starmer lied. Johnson didn't. Only an absolute idiot could see it any other way. Racking my brains in what other profession could you get away with deceit, lies, false promises, misleading whatever you want to call it, without going to prison.
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:29:09 GMT
One thing I have noticed from the pictures from public transport today is the lack of a face covering. People really need to start doing it even if it's a scarf/old t-shirt whatever. You mean common sense? 😁 I just can't understand some of these pillocks getting on like that. It will start kicking off on there I think.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 13, 2020 16:29:31 GMT
Isn't it just but I guess this is the new reality. The thing I don't get though, is where are all the other kids who would ordinarily be in the playground at the same time as well? Same question for the classroom. Isn't it essentially impossible for children to socially distance themselves in school, surely the classrooms and the playgrounds are simply not big enough to allow them to do so?
The schools will basically be mini "ghost towns" themselves Paul.
The other kids won't be there quite simply.
France are doing it in a similar way to what has been suggested over here i.e. kids aged 5,6 and 10 are the first lot to go back (so no other year groups are even in school), capped at around 10 kids per class, as they can use all of the empty classrooms not being used as so few students are in and breaks/lunchtimes are staggered so only a set amount of kids are eating/out in the playground at the same time.
Must be weird as fuck for the little kids (quite upsetting i'd imagine), horrible for the teachers and a nightmare for millions of parents (as it will be here) who are back to work themselves, but have nowhere to send their kids to during the day if they're not within the age groups returning as yet.
Sorry Mick, I probably didn't frame my question properly, what I was getting at, is what happens ULTIMATELY? Obviously it's like that now because they only have a fraction of the kids returning at the moment but it can't stay like that. What happens to the social distancing when all the other kids return as well?
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 13, 2020 16:31:10 GMT
And we let thousands of them come to Anfield when the virus was raging over there...
Which means that their government isn't as fucking stupid as ours is then really
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Post by bathstoke on May 13, 2020 16:31:33 GMT
No surprise that a Guardian journalist as that opinion I listened today and thought it was about even No question though that Starmer is a massive step up from his predecessor I had meant to post this one, but somehow managed to £@#& it up.
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:31:53 GMT
They simply don't give a fuck do they. Lying (and a mealy mouthed bullshit denial) during a national crisis and no responsibility or regret for the utter disaster caused by their negligence in the care sector. They are beneath contempt. No 10 rejects Starmer's claim that Johnson misled MPs about official care home adviceNo 10 has rejected Sir Keir Starmer’s claim that Boris Johnson misled MPs at PMQs when the PM said it “wasn’t true” that the care home sector had been advised it was unlikely to face an outbreak. Starmer has written to Johnson asking him to return to the Commons to correct the record. At PMQs Starmer said that until 12 March official guidance said it remained the case that it was very unlikely that people in care homes were going to be infected by coronavirus, but Johnson told Starmer that wasn’t true. The document clearly says: This guidance is intended for the current position in the UK where there is currently no transmission of Covid-19 in the community. It is therefore very unlikely that anyone receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected.
A source said that Starmer had “inaccurately and selectively” quoted from the document, and that therefore the PM was right to say what Starmer said was not right. The source said that in his question Starmer talking about it remaining the case that people in care were unlikely to be infected (the document does not use the word “remains” at that point) and the source said the full quote (see above) made it clear that this assurance covered a period where there was no community transmission. Starmer did not include the word “therefore”, the source said. The source signalled that Johnson would not be retracting what he said. So Starmer inserted an extra word in to a “quotation” but you think that’s ok do you? I’m not so sure you would be as charitable if it had been Johnson who inserted an extra word in to something. In fact, it is probably a fair bet that if someone said they were quoting from you yourself, and inserted an extra word, you would be up in arms about it. But Starmer doing it at PMQs is alright by you because it opens the door for you to negatively comment on something that wasn’t actually said!! Can you imagine on here if boris had done it? He's a smarmy twat that starmer.
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Post by neworleanstokie on May 13, 2020 16:32:52 GMT
I ordered a decent reusable mask over a month ago via ebay "Uk seller" still not arrived, Uk seller my arse checked shipping from China lying fcuking bastard, reported to ebay who have closed the sellers account and refunded my money, beware "Uk" sellers on ebay. A good friend of mine is an official supplier of PPE. If anyone needs anything, personally or professionally, let me know via PM and I'll send you the details or put you in touch with him. And if the NHS is still unable to obtain face masks why are there 1,000s available today on UK eBay??
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:33:06 GMT
No, it's clearly the lame explanation of a liar who has been caught out lying. It's pathetic. Only an absolute idiot would fall for it. Edit: And they clearly have Starmer lied. Johnson didn't. Only an absolute idiot could see it any other way. He's seen it that way 😁
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 13, 2020 16:35:22 GMT
So Starmer inserted an extra word in to a “quotation” but you think that’s ok do you? I’m not so sure you would be as charitable if it had been Johnson who inserted an extra word in to something. In fact, it is probably a fair bet that if someone said they were quoting from you yourself, and inserted an extra word, you would be up in arms about it. But Starmer doing it at PMQs is alright by you because it opens the door for you to negatively comment on something that wasn’t actually said!! Can you imagine on here if boris had done it? He's a smarmy twat that starmer. Are you really fucking falling for it? I'll help you out - that was still the advice as of the 12th March as is time stamped on the Government's own website He is a liar. A filthy negligent liar.
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:35:28 GMT
And we let thousands of them come to Anfield when the virus was raging over there... Can you imagine if boris would have said sorry klipperty klopp you can't play this week. Tell your players go home. See you later sunshine. Yeh that would have gone down well. Play it behind closed doors? Yeh that would have gone down well.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 13, 2020 16:36:19 GMT
Starmer lied. Johnson didn't. Only an absolute idiot could see it any other way. He's seen it that way 😁 He's a filthy negligent liar.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 16:38:03 GMT
Testing is stuck well and truly around the 60k mark.....
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:38:14 GMT
Since we were going to test 100,000 a day .How many days have we tested over 90,000?..... Don't know but I think we're testing more than Germany now and most countries in the world I think. Que the links from a james o'Brien post or a twat of reporter that's showing some fake news that we aren't. This came from Dr hillary so it must be right 😁
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 13, 2020 16:40:40 GMT
The schools will basically be mini "ghost towns" themselves Paul.
The other kids won't be there quite simply.
France are doing it in a similar way to what has been suggested over here i.e. kids aged 5,6 and 10 are the first lot to go back (so no other year groups are even in school), capped at around 10 kids per class, as they can use all of the empty classrooms not being used as so few students are in and breaks/lunchtimes are staggered so only a set amount of kids are eating/out in the playground at the same time.
Must be weird as fuck for the little kids (quite upsetting i'd imagine), horrible for the teachers and a nightmare for millions of parents (as it will be here) who are back to work themselves, but have nowhere to send their kids to during the day if they're not within the age groups returning as yet.
Sorry Mick, I probably didn't frame my question properly, what I was getting at, is what happens ULTIMATELY? Obviously it's like that now because they only have a fraction of the kids returning at the moment but it can't stay like that. What happens to the social distancing when all the other kids return as well?
Sorry Paul, yes i meant to add a last line and forgot: "What the fuck they'll do when ALL kids are supposed to go back, god only knows"
It'll be a nightmare logistically with just the few going back (if they do) in June. As many teachers have pointed out, how exactly do you stop a 4yr old from dribbling/coughing/sneezing/picking their nose/running off to another kid before you can stop them etc.
How can any teacher clean and sanitise every piece of a jigsaw puzzle/every page of a book a kid read that day/every piece of Lego etc.
And what's going to happen to kids who's parents don't let them go back? We had an email from my daughter's school the other day explaining that if year 10 have to go back before the summer (as they've been touted as being the first secondary year that are likely to go back over the last few weeks), but their parents don't feel it is still safe and therefore their kids don't attend, then the school will not fine them and let the parents make their own decision. I wonder how many more schools will be that understanding?
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:41:56 GMT
A good friend of mine is an official supplier of PPE. If anyone needs anything, personally or professionally, let me know via PM and I'll send you the details or put you in touch with him. And if the NHS is still unable to obtain face masks why are there 1,000s available today on UK eBay?? Are they white lacy thongs? 😁
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