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Post by sheikhmomo on May 13, 2020 16:42:30 GMT
Testing is stuck well and truly around the 60k mark..... Maybe we'll hit 100,000 at the end of May when Johnson has promised 200,000 as he did again earlier today. Just numbers innit, what possible harm can lying about them do?
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:43:26 GMT
He's seen it that way đ He's a filthy negligent liar. Boris out scholes in đ
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:44:38 GMT
Testing is stuck well and truly around the 60k mark..... Maybe we'll hit 100,000 at the end of May when Johnson has promised 200,000 as he did again earlier today. Just numbers innit, what possible harm can lying about them do? Make you cry?
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Post by dutchstokie on May 13, 2020 16:46:15 GMT
And if the NHS is still unable to obtain face masks why are there 1,000s available today on UK eBay?? Are they white lacy thongs? đ Im quite happy to use my mrs knickers..... Only problem is I look like a masked bank robber !! đ
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Post by stokeson on May 13, 2020 16:47:23 GMT
The briefings are becoming more Trump like every day.......
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 13, 2020 16:47:54 GMT
Sorry Mick, I probably didn't frame my question properly, what I was getting at, is what happens ULTIMATELY? Obviously it's like that now because they only have a fraction of the kids returning at the moment but it can't stay like that. What happens to the social distancing when all the other kids return as well?
Sorry Paul, yes i meant to add a last line and forgot: "What the fuck they'll do when ALL kids are supposed to go back, god only knows"
It'll be a nightmare logistically with just the few going back (if they do) in June. As many teachers have pointed out, how exactly do you stop a 4yr old from dribbling/coughing/sneezing/picking their nose/running off to another kid before you can stop them etc.
How can any teacher clean and sanitise every piece of a jigsaw puzzle/every page of a book a kid read that day/every piece of Lego etc.
And what's going to happen to kids who's parents don't let them go back? We had an email from my daughter's school the other day explaining that if year 10 have to go back before the summer (as they've been touted as being the first secondary year that are likely to go back over the last few weeks), but their parents don't feel it is still safe and therefore their kids don't attend, then the school will not fine them and let the parents make their own decision. I wonder how many more schools will be that understanding?
I'd never imagined they'd try and social distance the school kids because it's obvious that it can't be done unless you absolutely massively reduce the attendance. It's like the advice to keep to social distancing on the tubes 'if you can', well it's patently impossible to keep 2 metres away from other passengers on the vast majority of tube trains, so the advice is just completely vacuous from the beginning.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 13, 2020 16:48:25 GMT
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:48:42 GMT
Are they white lacy thongs? đ Im quite happy to use my mrs knickers..... Only problem is I look like a masked bank robber !! đ đ we are going see it out and about aren't we? Trouble is some perv will be a sniffing your face right in front of you đ
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Post by thevoid on May 13, 2020 16:50:20 GMT
I've no idea what city you live in but I've just had to leave work near Hanley to go pick up the mrs from work in castle and drop her off at home then get back to Hanley, the roads are still a ghost town compared to the usual traffic volume, there was defo a few more people walking about but far far away from being full and everywhere, and the mrs shop where she works was no busier than it's been upto now. So no in Stoke Boris hasn't got Covid19 done. Been in Crewe and Newcastle last two days. No crowding A bit busier than itâs been for the past 6 weeks but everybody seems to be keeping distances They have to keep so far apart in Crewe due to the size of their foreheads
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:50:52 GMT
The briefings are becoming more Trump like every day....... What do you want? Someone doing keepy uppy? Card trick? Fiddle numbers like other countries? đ
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Post by thevoid on May 13, 2020 16:53:36 GMT
No surprise that a Guardian journalist as that opinion I listened today and thought it was about even No question though that Starmer is a massive step up from his predecessor That isn't difficult when the bar was set not so much low as subterranean.
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Post by stokeson on May 13, 2020 16:53:48 GMT
The first casualty of war (pandemic or not) is the truth. This bunch lie like most people breathe....................
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 16:57:53 GMT
The first casualty of war (pandemic or not) is the truth. This bunch lie like most people breathe.................... Oh well. That's all countries fucked then
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Post by devondumpling on May 13, 2020 16:59:45 GMT
He's seen it that way đ He's a filthy negligent liar. I see were still ignoring the facts, you f l Momo? Prima facie thereâs no wriggle room, prosecutor Starmerâs got him bang to rights⌠UPDATE: Turns out there is wriggle room, Keir Starmer didnât take the time to read the small print. Which is a bad failing in a lawyer: This guidance is intended for the current position in the UK where there is currently no transmission of COVID-19 in the community. It is therefore very unlikely that anyone receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected. This is the latest information and will be updated shortly. UPDATE II: The footnote, it is now claimed, was added on March 13, so given Starmerâs precise question cites âuntil March 12â the answer Boris gave to that specific question is incorrect. UPDATE III: Boris hits back in a letter to Starmer saying the advice published on February 25 included the disclaimer above that it referred to the current position.
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Post by stokeson on May 13, 2020 17:01:09 GMT
So the extra 10.000 deaths in carehomes are due to an unknown cause. somone should look into this.......
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 17:01:49 GMT
He's a filthy negligent liar. I see were still ignoring the facts, you f l Momo? Prima facie thereâs no wriggle room, prosecutor Starmerâs got him bang to rights⌠UPDATE: Turns out there is wriggle room, Keir Starmer didnât take the time to read the small print. Which is a bad failing in a lawyer: This guidance is intended for the current position in the UK where there is currently no transmission of COVID-19 in the community. It is therefore very unlikely that anyone receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected. This is the latest information and will be updated shortly. UPDATE II: The footnote, it is now claimed, was added on March 13, so given Starmerâs precise question cites âuntil March 12â the answer Boris gave to that specific question is incorrect. UPDATE III: Boris hits back in a letter to Starmer saying the advice published on February 25 included the disclaimer above that it referred to the current position. Does that mean he's been cock dropped? đ A former barrister missing small print? Is that true? Tut tut if it is.
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 17:05:00 GMT
So the extra 10.000 deaths in carehomes are due to an unknown cause. somone should look into this....... What like? You mean like GP's not going into care homes at the moment so people dying of all sorts?
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 17:06:38 GMT
I think momo is off checking with james o'Brien twitter feed to see if the above is true or not or if they can find a loop hole to get out of it đ
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Post by stokeson on May 13, 2020 17:06:46 GMT
Well thats another done.Not one question answered in full just vaugue blather around the issues.total bollocxs
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 17:09:45 GMT
Well thats another done.Not one question answered in full just vaugue blather around the issues.total bollocxs Bit like on here then đ
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Post by danceswithclams on May 13, 2020 17:19:10 GMT
How can any teacher clean and sanitise every piece of a jigsaw puzzle/every page of a book a kid read that day/every piece of Lego etc. I wouldn't be too concerned about that. In my experience, Lego spends most of its time up arses, so if contaminants from that doesn't cause problems then I'm sure Covid won't either. (Everyone's had Lego lodged in their bum as a child, haven't they?)
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 17:22:49 GMT
That's what the governments job is mate, grabbing the bull by the horns and working out how the testing is done. Not sure why you've attacked the nhs there. You and the other boris johnson fanciers are a bunch of utter lunatics Lunatics may be cured But there's no hope for fanasist's I'll attack the NHS its become an unwieldy monolith Speaking to a staff nurse the other day thirty years experience And her biggest complaint there is two many chiefs and not enough Indians When she started there were three levels of people she had to report to Now she's a couple of runs up there's now four It needs wholesale reforms concentrating on front line staffing You don't need managers managing the managers who are managing the mangers who are in turn expecting answers from there assistant managers It needs to go back to a service that is run by clinical need without political interference By clinical professionals The Tories and new labour before them have reformed it a lot, it's more fragmented and less organised than ever. I'm not a fantasist, there are problems but it is entirely the governments fault. Not sure where the separation here is with all you boris living lunes, he's there to govern, the government have a responsibility.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 17:26:48 GMT
It's all very well scientists saying we should keep the economy shut down and lock everyone in their houses 24/7 until there's a vaccine. It isn't practical and a balance has to be struck. These same scientists have guaranteed jobs with index linked pensions. Take away their salary and pension and say you can't have it unless we have a functioning economy. You'd soon see their advice change. It's easy for them to condemn everyone except themselves to poverty, destitution and house arrest. Yes, the balance involves testing and tracing, that is what the scientists have said, what sensible countries are doing. The countries run by extremist right wing populist nutters, like Brazil,USA and ourselves, who are all the worst at managing the crisis, are all opening up again without having a strategy in place for test and trace
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 17:27:38 GMT
It's all very well scientists saying we should keep the economy shut down and lock everyone in their houses 24/7 until there's a vaccine. It isn't practical and a balance has to be struck. These same scientists have guaranteed jobs with index linked pensions. Take away their salary and pension and say you can't have it unless we have a functioning economy. You'd soon see their advice change. It's easy for them to condemn everyone except themselves to poverty, destitution and house arrest. You make it sound a bit harsh but that is the reality. It becomes about managing risk and people have a weird concept when it comes to risk that changes over time. Individuals start to balance the risk of catching coronavirus, against the risk of dying from coronavirus, against the risk of losing your job/business and running out of money/food. These are all real concerns. The scientists operate in a black & white world view that there is only a life & death choice related to the pandemic. The truth sadly is a lot more grey. No the scientists don't. You should try reading up on it
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 13, 2020 17:27:43 GMT
He's a filthy negligent liar. I see were still ignoring the facts, you f l Momo? Prima facie thereâs no wriggle room, prosecutor Starmerâs got him bang to rights⌠UPDATE: Turns out there is wriggle room, Keir Starmer didnât take the time to read the small print. Which is a bad failing in a lawyer: This guidance is intended for the current position in the UK where there is currently no transmission of COVID-19 in the community. It is therefore very unlikely that anyone receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected. This is the latest information and will be updated shortly. UPDATE II: The footnote, it is now claimed, was added on March 13, so given Starmerâs precise question cites âuntil March 12â the answer Boris gave to that specific question is incorrect. UPDATE III: Boris hits back in a letter to Starmer saying the advice published on February 25 included the disclaimer above that it referred to the current position. You honestly believe that cock rot? God there's genuinely no hope left for this country is there.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 13, 2020 17:30:17 GMT
So Starmer inserted an extra word in to a âquotationâ but you think thatâs ok do you? Iâm not so sure you would be as charitable if it had been Johnson who inserted an extra word in to something. In fact, it is probably a fair bet that if someone said they were quoting from you yourself, and inserted an extra word, you would be up in arms about it. But Starmer doing it at PMQs is alright by you because it opens the door for you to negatively comment on something that wasnât actually said!! Can you imagine on here if boris had done it? He's a smarmy twat that starmer. He's fantastic. In fact once the Brexit debacle has concluded and we are somewhat out of the Coronavirus mess; Boris will be replaced by Sunak (maybe sooner rather than later following these PMQ maulings) and then the country will have a mighty difficult decision. Both parties fighting from the centre. The 'loan' votes removed. Sounds like heaven to me.
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Post by musik on May 13, 2020 17:35:47 GMT
Neutral position here, ok.
It would by interesting to know the IQ and EQ of every politician in every country.
I think Carl Bildt would score high, in Sweden.
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 17:36:15 GMT
It's all very well scientists saying we should keep the economy shut down and lock everyone in their houses 24/7 until there's a vaccine. It isn't practical and a balance has to be struck. These same scientists have guaranteed jobs with index linked pensions. Take away their salary and pension and say you can't have it unless we have a functioning economy. You'd soon see their advice change. It's easy for them to condemn everyone except themselves to poverty, destitution and house arrest. Yes, the balance involves testing and tracing, that is what the scientists have said, what sensible countries are doing. The countries run by extremist right wing populist nutters, like Brazil,USA and ourselves, who are all the worst at managing the crisis, are all opening up again without having a strategy in place for test and trace I don't know the answer to this but do France spain and Italy?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 17:36:44 GMT
Can you imagine on here if boris had done it? He's a smarmy twat that starmer. He's fantastic. In fact once the Brexit debacle has concluded and we are somewhat out of the Coronavirus mess; Boris will be replaced by Sunak (maybe sooner rather than later following these PMQ maulings) and then the country will have a mighty difficult decision. Both parties fighting from the centre.The 'loan' votes removed. Sounds like heaven to me. How very depressing......
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Post by sportsman on May 13, 2020 17:37:45 GMT
I see were still ignoring the facts, you f l Momo? Prima facie thereâs no wriggle room, prosecutor Starmerâs got him bang to rights⌠UPDATE: Turns out there is wriggle room, Keir Starmer didnât take the time to read the small print. Which is a bad failing in a lawyer: This guidance is intended for the current position in the UK where there is currently no transmission of COVID-19 in the community. It is therefore very unlikely that anyone receiving care in a care home or the community will become infected. This is the latest information and will be updated shortly. UPDATE II: The footnote, it is now claimed, was added on March 13, so given Starmerâs precise question cites âuntil March 12â the answer Boris gave to that specific question is incorrect. UPDATE III: Boris hits back in a letter to Starmer saying the advice published on February 25 included the disclaimer above that it referred to the current position. You honestly believe that cock rot? God there's genuinely no hope left for this country is there. Ey up he's checked james o'Brien's twitter feed.
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