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Post by mutters on Dec 26, 2022 22:50:35 GMT
Isn't it strange too about this : Interesting & synchronised move from international authorities. The UK Government will also stop announcing daily COVID cases from the first week of January too. Additionally : China will scrap all quarantine measures from January 8 — downgrades Covid "control measures" to "Category B" level. The Chinese National Health Commission also stopped announcing daily Covid cases. www.disclose.tv/id/1607404349344419841/
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Post by ravey123 on Dec 26, 2022 23:04:05 GMT
We’ll I’ve got it now. Had it 3 times this year and 2 of the last 3 Christmasses spent in bed After the vax ? Yup - had all 3 jabs aswell
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Post by mutters on Dec 26, 2022 23:14:16 GMT
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Post by superjw on Dec 27, 2022 0:55:10 GMT
No surprise to many of us but nice to have it confirmed all the same. (It's a long thread so I'll just post the opening Tweet, click on it to read loads more). EDIT: Seems there's more coming soon... I wonder what the explanations will look like from those who blindly supported the shit that went on (& still do) I know he is part of the elite himself but fair play to Elon for getting this out in the open. But in reality the square root of sod all will happen as a result of all this unfortunately. The difference between Covid conspiracy and the truth is about 12 months or so…
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Post by swampmongrel on Dec 27, 2022 13:31:35 GMT
There was a thing in Unherd about Twitter censoring the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. Interesting to read.
I keep thinking about the GBD and can’t help to think that if vaccines hadn’t been effective against severe disease/death that we’d have ended up with a policy similar. It was basically the initial pandemic plan and time has proved that zero Covid was always impossible.
Nuts how epidemiologists from Oxford, Harvard and Stanford were effectively mocked and silenced.
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Post by superjw on Dec 27, 2022 19:03:46 GMT
There was a thing in Unherd about Twitter censoring the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. Interesting to read. I keep thinking about the GBD and can’t help to think that if vaccines hadn’t been effective against severe disease/death that we’d have ended up with a policy similar. It was basically the initial pandemic plan and time has proved that zero Covid was always impossible. Nuts how epidemiologists from Oxford, Harvard and Stanford were effectively mocked and silenced. We all heard the phrase “follow the science” but we were following the science that governments and clearly social media companies wanted to follow. It’s crazy really that proper debate on such a world reaching subject was suppressed, it’s massive but nobody will do anything about it - we are distracted with the fact we can’t pay our bills.
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Post by hotterpotter on Dec 28, 2022 9:29:59 GMT
There was a thing in Unherd about Twitter censoring the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. Interesting to read. I keep thinking about the GBD and can’t help to think that if vaccines hadn’t been effective against severe disease/death that we’d have ended up with a policy similar. It was basically the initial pandemic plan and time has proved that zero Covid was always impossible. Nuts how epidemiologists from Oxford, Harvard and Stanford were effectively mocked and silenced. We all heard the phrase “follow the science” but we were following the science that governments and clearly social media companies wanted to follow. It’s crazy really that proper debate on such a world reaching subject was suppressed, it’s massive but nobody will do anything about it - we are distracted with the fact we can’t pay our bills. When you follow the energy bills issue from start to finish it's hard not to see yet another government conspiracy.
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Post by noustie on Dec 28, 2022 10:44:53 GMT
There was a thing in Unherd about Twitter censoring the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. Interesting to read. I keep thinking about the GBD and can’t help to think that if vaccines hadn’t been effective against severe disease/death that we’d have ended up with a policy similar. It was basically the initial pandemic plan and time has proved that zero Covid was always impossible. Nuts how epidemiologists from Oxford, Harvard and Stanford were effectively mocked and silenced. This is interesting too: This just replicated what happened across the Western world. Consider the treatment meted out on three ‘centrist’ senior academics (hailing from Stanford, Oxford and Harvard, no less) behind the Great Barrington Declaration, an attempt to promote a rational response to the grand panic so as to minimise collateral damage. A senior honcho within US National Institutes of Health smeared them as ‘fringe epidemiologists’ and stated that there “needs to be a quick and devastating published take down of its premises”:A new development is that Anthony Fauci, head of the NIA, is now unable to recall these matters when providing an ‘on the record’ legal deposition, stating that he didn’t “have time to worry about things like the Great Barrington Declaration”… despite writing a few days after the above email from Collins that he had “come out very strongly against the Great Barrington Declaration”.
And following on from confirmation of the active suppression and censorship of the Great Barrington Declaration and its authors, the new owner of a recently acquired social media company seems to have unearthed information that led to this exchange:www.hartgroup.org/transmission-denied/I'd genuinely not be surprised if Musk wasn't in jail or dead within the week. The media hit job on him even when he was sacking a peado sympathiser given a senior safe guarding role within Twitter was insane and shows how hard they're trying to play the man rather than the ball.
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Post by noustie on Dec 28, 2022 10:47:55 GMT
www.hartgroup.org/how-to-hide-adverse-events/They then removed all the people with the condition after the vaccine who had had a diagnosis of that condition in the 365 days prior to vaccination. They did not do the same for the control group.
If vaccination causes an increased risk of myocardial infarction, pulmonary embolism or other clotting problems then it would not be unreasonable to suspect that people who already had a propensity for those conditions would be at highest risk. Not only was their data removed but no separate analysis was reported for this group......Despite claiming that this study was designed to be sensitive to pick up signals that could be investigated further the methodology was designed to lack such sensitivity, “The test margin was selected for each AESI based on expert guidance to avoid minimal risk increases that were unlikely to be clinically relevant.”In the words of the FDA, “Active monitoring of safety outcomes following COVID-19 vaccination is critical to understand vaccine safety and can provide early detection of rare outcomes not identified in pre-licensure trials.” The way the FDA has carried out this analysis appears to be with a view to ensuring any signal present is hidden. Knowing that the FDA takes this approach to assessing safety is far from reassuring.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 28, 2022 10:48:26 GMT
So China's covid zero dream (nightmare) is up in flames and despite huge numbers of cases and a crap vaccine they have now decided that its better to "learn to live" with Covid than to fight it.
So not only was their disgusting lockdown policy a total failure, they are now conceding that covid isn't that bad. Looks like the protests worked.
Yet more evidence what utter madness the global lockdown strategy was.
Is there anyone left on here who thinks lockdowns were a good idea?
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Post by noustie on Dec 28, 2022 10:51:14 GMT
It's alright sure our elected representatives are all over this given we're meant to be one of the leading democracies in the world - or maybe not: www.hartgroup.org/mp-speaks-out-but-who-is-listening/Moreover, in this podcast (recommended for anyone who wants to understand some of Mr Bridgen’s broader views), Mr Bridgen points out that someone posting a link to an earlier podcast he had made with a vicar called Jamie Franklin onto Facebook received a 30-day ban.
It is quite clear that certain forces are attempting to limit exposure of the speech to the population. Surely, if it contained untruths, it would have been better to combat it by painstakingly pointing out the flaws and debating the points made, rather than censoring them.
During the speech Bridgen claimed that a team of researchers had been made to sign non-disclosure agreements after their research revealed coronary artery inflammation caused as a result of vaccination. The cover-up involved someone with a “prominent leadership role with the British Heart Foundation” and that the team feared losing their pharmaceutical industry funding. The following day having had minimal time to investigate, the British Heart Foundation responded saying,
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 28, 2022 10:52:29 GMT
There was a thing in Unherd about Twitter censoring the authors of the Great Barrington Declaration. Interesting to read. I keep thinking about the GBD and can’t help to think that if vaccines hadn’t been effective against severe disease/death that we’d have ended up with a policy similar. It was basically the initial pandemic plan and time has proved that zero Covid was always impossible. Nuts how epidemiologists from Oxford, Harvard and Stanford were effectively mocked and silenced. This is interesting too: This just replicated what happened across the Western world. Consider the treatment meted out on three ‘centrist’ senior academics (hailing from Stanford, Oxford and Harvard, no less) behind the Great Barrington Declaration, an attempt to promote a rational response to the grand panic so as to minimise collateral damage. A senior honcho within US National Institutes of Health smeared them as ‘fringe epidemiologists’ and stated that there “needs to be a quick and devastating published take down of its premises”:A new development is that Anthony Fauci, head of the NIA, is now unable to recall these matters when providing an ‘on the record’ legal deposition, stating that he didn’t “have time to worry about things like the Great Barrington Declaration”… despite writing a few days after the above email from Collins that he had “come out very strongly against the Great Barrington Declaration”.
And following on from confirmation of the active suppression and censorship of the Great Barrington Declaration and its authors, the new owner of a recently acquired social media company seems to have unearthed information that led to this exchange:www.hartgroup.org/transmission-denied/I'd genuinely not be surprised if Musk wasn't in jail or dead within the week. The media hit job on him even when he was sacking a peado sympathiser given a senior safe guarding role within Twitter was insane and shows how hard they're trying to play the man rather than the ball. Things are just getting started noustie. Shutting down society for a largely non fatal virus, propped up by lies, propaganda, censorship and corrupt government scientists - Global covid strategy will go down as one of the biggest scandals in modern day history. Loads more is going to come out in the months and years ahead and within our lifetime, arrests will be made.
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Post by hotterpotter on Dec 28, 2022 11:32:23 GMT
So China's covid zero dream (nightmare) is up in flames and despite huge numbers of cases and a crap vaccine they have now decided that its better to "learn to live" with Covid than to fight it. So not only was their disgusting lockdown policy a total failure, they are now conceding that covid isn't that bad. Looks like the protests worked. Yet more evidence what utter madness the global lockdown strategy was. Is there anyone left on here who thinks lockdowns were a good idea? Amazon?
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Post by henry on Dec 28, 2022 11:35:49 GMT
So China's covid zero dream (nightmare) is up in flames and despite huge numbers of cases and a crap vaccine they have now decided that its better to "learn to live" with Covid than to fight it. So not only was their disgusting lockdown policy a total failure, they are now conceding that covid isn't that bad. Looks like the protests worked. Yet more evidence what utter madness the global lockdown strategy was. Is there anyone left on here who thinks lockdowns were a good idea? It should never be forgotten that Labour wanted to lockdown harder and longer on nothing other than pure guess work and trying to get one over the ruling party. I wonder if that cunt Jimmy Carr has dropped the "hands up if you've not had the vaccine" stunt from his act, or the nodding dogs on GMB feel ashamed for labelling people "Cov-idiots" (see what they did there) for going about their normal business.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 28, 2022 12:26:57 GMT
So China's covid zero dream (nightmare) is up in flames and despite huge numbers of cases and a crap vaccine they have now decided that its better to "learn to live" with Covid than to fight it. So not only was their disgusting lockdown policy a total failure, they are now conceding that covid isn't that bad. Looks like the protests worked. Yet more evidence what utter madness the global lockdown strategy was. Is there anyone left on here who thinks lockdowns were a good idea? It should never be forgotten that Labour wanted to lockdown harder and longer on nothing other than pure guess work and trying to get one over the ruling party. I wonder if that cunt Jimmy Carr has dropped the "hands up if you've not had the vaccine" stunt from his act, or the nodding dogs on GMB feel ashamed for labelling people "Cov-idiots" (see what they did there) for going about their normal business. Indeed.
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Post by Northy on Dec 28, 2022 13:09:34 GMT
It's officially over they've taken the screens down at Fenton Manor We’ll I’ve got it now. Had it 3 times this year and 2 of the last 3 Christmasses spent in bed I had it the week before Christmas, wasn't as bad as the other times, my eldest lad now at home again had it far worse, the flu symptons, the vomiting, in bed for a few days, no energy, and then the coughing for a week or so.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Dec 28, 2022 14:39:50 GMT
Mmmm seems like China want to spread their covid all over the world again, they are all going to get it with being locked down forever (and now want their population to fly all over the world freely) perhaps their authority want to start another world wide panic so they can mop up more business and money again, we must not fall for it again.
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Post by ravey123 on Dec 28, 2022 15:21:44 GMT
We’ll I’ve got it now. Had it 3 times this year and 2 of the last 3 Christmasses spent in bed I had it the week before Christmas, wasn't as bad as the other times, my eldest lad now at home again had it far worse, the flu symptons, the vomiting, in bed for a few days, no energy, and then the coughing for a week or so. In the 3 times I’ve knowingly had it the symptoms have been completely different each time.
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Post by lordb on Dec 28, 2022 15:28:06 GMT
I had it the week before Christmas, wasn't as bad as the other times, my eldest lad now at home again had it far worse, the flu symptons, the vomiting, in bed for a few days, no energy, and then the coughing for a week or so. In the 3 times I’ve knowingly had it the symptoms have been completely different each time. Currently have it Third time First time I've experienced the taste loss
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Post by ravey123 on Dec 28, 2022 15:44:14 GMT
Mmmm seems like China want to spread their covid all over the world again, they are all going to get it with being locked down forever (and now want their population to fly all over the world freely) perhaps their authority want to start another world wide panic so they can mop up more business and money again, we must not fall for it again. But you know we will fall for it again because we are just not prepared to do what we should have been doing for the last decade or more - ween ourselves off cheap disposable goods. The human race is just too selfish
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Dec 28, 2022 15:49:28 GMT
Mmmm seems like China want to spread their covid all over the world again, they are all going to get it with being locked down forever (and now want their population to fly all over the world freely) perhaps their authority want to start another world wide panic so they can mop up more business and money again, we must not fall for it again. But you know we will fall for it again because we are just not prepared to do what we should have been doing for the last decade or more - ween ourselves off cheap disposable goods. The human race is just too selfish I fear you are right unfortunately 😕
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Post by drfootball on Dec 28, 2022 16:19:35 GMT
This is interesting too: This just replicated what happened across the Western world. Consider the treatment meted out on three ‘centrist’ senior academics (hailing from Stanford, Oxford and Harvard, no less) behind the Great Barrington Declaration, an attempt to promote a rational response to the grand panic so as to minimise collateral damage. A senior honcho within US National Institutes of Health smeared them as ‘fringe epidemiologists’ and stated that there “needs to be a quick and devastating published take down of its premises”:A new development is that Anthony Fauci, head of the NIA, is now unable to recall these matters when providing an ‘on the record’ legal deposition, stating that he didn’t “have time to worry about things like the Great Barrington Declaration”… despite writing a few days after the above email from Collins that he had “come out very strongly against the Great Barrington Declaration”.
And following on from confirmation of the active suppression and censorship of the Great Barrington Declaration and its authors, the new owner of a recently acquired social media company seems to have unearthed information that led to this exchange:www.hartgroup.org/transmission-denied/I'd genuinely not be surprised if Musk wasn't in jail or dead within the week. The media hit job on him even when he was sacking a peado sympathiser given a senior safe guarding role within Twitter was insane and shows how hard they're trying to play the man rather than the ball. Things are just getting started noustie. Shutting down society for a largely non fatal virus, propped up by lies, propaganda, censorship and corrupt government scientists - Global covid strategy will go down as one of the biggest scandals in modern day history. Loads more is going to come out in the months and years ahead and within our lifetime, arrests will be made. You love the idea of arrests don't you ? What would the charges be ? What specific laws have been broken ? Is there any reasonable chance of prosecution ? Bullshitting, lieing, being lead up the garden path by incorrect advice, none of these are criminal offences that'll land anyone in court, least of all government ministers or their advisors. What do think they can actually be arrested for ?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 28, 2022 17:22:26 GMT
We’ll I’ve got it now. Had it 3 times this year and 2 of the last 3 Christmasses spent in bed I had it the week before Christmas, wasn't as bad as the other times, my eldest lad now at home again had it far worse, the flu symptons, the vomiting, in bed for a few days, no energy, and then the coughing for a week or so. Wasn’t it Hancock who made the announcement that the vaccine would prevent you getting the infection, whilst Chris Witty, Chief Medical Officer, had to later correct him and say the the vaccine would not necessarily stop cross-infections but increase the immune system to help prevent the worst symptoms of the virus?
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Post by adri2008 on Dec 28, 2022 17:26:04 GMT
The suppression of dissenting view points was always a disgrace in my opinion as was the deliberate creation of terror by the goverment and its advisors.
We are meant to live in a democracy after all. The demonisation of those who didnt fancy being locked up in their home for months and/or to expose themselves to an experimental vaccine was disgusting.
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Post by knype on Dec 28, 2022 19:47:32 GMT
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Post by henry on Dec 28, 2022 21:53:27 GMT
Things are just getting started noustie. Shutting down society for a largely non fatal virus, propped up by lies, propaganda, censorship and corrupt government scientists - Global covid strategy will go down as one of the biggest scandals in modern day history. Loads more is going to come out in the months and years ahead and within our lifetime, arrests will be made. You love the idea of arrests don't you ? What would the charges be ? What specific laws have been broken ? Is there any reasonable chance of prosecution ? Bullshitting, lieing, being lead up the garden path by incorrect advice, none of these are criminal offences that'll land anyone in court, least of all government ministers or their advisors. What do think they can actually be arrested for ?Off the top of my head, coercive control for starters.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 28, 2022 22:32:44 GMT
You love the idea of arrests don't you ? What would the charges be ? What specific laws have been broken ? Is there any reasonable chance of prosecution ? Bullshitting, lieing, being lead up the garden path by incorrect advice, none of these are criminal offences that'll land anyone in court, least of all government ministers or their advisors. What do think they can actually be arrested for ?Off the top of my head, coercive control for starters. I mean I'm not sure how a "democratic" government can "legally" lock up society for a year, ban children from education, seize control of state media, force vaccination for a virus that most were immune to and shut down the economy - All in the name of a health service that doesn't work (despite us paying for it). But surely the very fact that, at least in their eyes, this was "legal" says all you need to know about why these utter cretins need to be arrested.
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Post by henry on Dec 28, 2022 22:35:35 GMT
Off the top of my head, coercive control for starters. I mean I'm not sure how a "democratic" government can "legally" lock up society for a year, ban children from education, seize control of state media, force vaccination for a virus that most were immune to and shut down the economy - All in the name of a health service that doesn't work (despite us paying for it). But surely the very fact that, at least in their eyes, this was "legal" says all you need to know about why these utter cretins need to be arrested. And have a trip to the jungle on tv and pretend it never happened.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 28, 2022 22:37:07 GMT
Things are just getting started noustie. Shutting down society for a largely non fatal virus, propped up by lies, propaganda, censorship and corrupt government scientists - Global covid strategy will go down as one of the biggest scandals in modern day history. Loads more is going to come out in the months and years ahead and within our lifetime, arrests will be made. You love the idea of arrests don't you ? What would the charges be ? What specific laws have been broken ? Is there any reasonable chance of prosecution ? Bullshitting, lieing, being lead up the garden path by incorrect advice, none of these are criminal offences that'll land anyone in court, least of all government ministers or their advisors. What do think they can actually be arrested for ? What a bizarre statement. That's like saying "because a violent, oppressive dictatorship like China, Iran or Russia have legalised being violent and oppressive, that means in the future, said leaders can't be arrested". I'd say there is every chance the Iranian Supreme Leader and Putin, at some point could be arrested. Potentially even murdered if the people can get close to them.
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Post by drfootball on Dec 29, 2022 11:41:46 GMT
You love the idea of arrests don't you ? What would the charges be ? What specific laws have been broken ? Is there any reasonable chance of prosecution ? Bullshitting, lieing, being lead up the garden path by incorrect advice, none of these are criminal offences that'll land anyone in court, least of all government ministers or their advisors. What do think they can actually be arrested for ? What a bizarre statement. That's like saying "because a violent, oppressive dictatorship like China, Iran or Russia have legalised being violent and oppressive, that means in the future, said leaders can't be arrested". I'd say there is every chance the Iranian Supreme Leader and Putin, at some point could be arrested. Potentially even murdered if the people can get close to them. What's bizarre in my genuine question ? You seem to just want people arrested but without any specific charge until you've made some up. First of all you need the politicians to pass laws that will convict themselves, like that's going to happen. Then assume that you've got your target Covid Crims arrested. For them go do jail time they've got to be prosecuted through a court and a decent barrister will probably get them off on a technicality as the charges relate to a retrospectively applied statute. Arrests mean nothing without the rest of the legal system to follow it through. Ain't going to happen.
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