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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 25, 2022 14:50:44 GMT
Monkeypox is nothing like covid. The news will love having something else to stir up about but I bet we'll see nothing more from the government than a bit of info and encouragement for vulnerable people to get a jab. If you're gonna do plenty of bumming, maybe get vaccinated though. I never said Monkeypox was like Covid! Good to see that you have identified the latest target group to single out and oppress tho. "Oppress"? I don't get it. And I didn't mean to say you thought monkeypox is just like covid. It's just that it'd be easy for people to think back to December 2019 and maybe decide it sounds like COVID did back then. But if you read the details that some news stories skip, then it's really not the same so there's no need to freak about lockdowns or anything. Just wanted to help put others at ease.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 25, 2022 16:54:49 GMT
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Post by felonious on Jul 25, 2022 18:55:01 GMT
Child hepatitis outbreaks due to lockdowns. www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61269586One of the investigators, Prof Judith Breuer, an expert in virology, at University College London and Great Ormond Street Hospital, said: "During the lockdown period when children were not mixing, they were not transmitting viruses to each other. "They were not building up immunity to the common infections they would normally encounter. "When the restrictions were lifted, children began to mix, viruses began to circulate freely - and they suddenly were exposed with this lack of prior immunity to a whole battery of new infections."
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Post by questionable on Jul 26, 2022 7:21:46 GMT
The wifeās tested positive this morning avoided it until now, strangely enough weāve been at the hospital quite a bit recently visiting and the place was full of it with wards being closed off with it. š¤Ø
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Post by felonious on Jul 26, 2022 17:20:53 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 26, 2022 18:45:43 GMT
I saw some biologist who was freaking out about some bat tourist attractions in SE Asia. They shit on people all the time and any of those plops could trigger a disease jump to humans. Oh and they also said antibiotic use in farms is also a huge deal but people would probably rather have cheap meat now rather than safe surgery in ten years so we're possibly just fucked there.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 26, 2022 21:51:04 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 26, 2022 22:03:57 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff.
Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end.
Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet.
You should never be forgiven.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 27, 2022 3:05:13 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff. Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end. Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet. You should never be forgiven. Yeah we had a choice. The lockdowns saved a lot of lives and reduced stress on the NHS. I still haven't seen any evidence that letting way more people get infected and die would have helped the economy much. Only angry rants so far.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 27, 2022 6:16:14 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff. Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end. Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet. You should never be forgiven. Yeah we had a choice. The lockdowns saved a lot of lives and reduced stress on the NHS. I still haven't seen any evidence that letting way more people get infected and die would have helped the economy much. Only angry rants so far. It's like you're living in some kind of alternative reality. Any evidence? You mean like the fact that many now can't afford to buy food and fuel? Or the fact that we've a waiting list of the best part of 10 million and nothing in the country actually works? It's utterly mystifying how this minority of lockdown fanatics completely ignore the catastrophic, and now quite obvious, collateral damage of lockdowns and yet continue to trot out the line of "lockdowns save lives". It'd be comical if it wasn't so creepy.
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Post by henry on Jul 27, 2022 7:53:57 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff. Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end. Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet. You should never be forgiven. Plus isolating kids from every day viruses that they should be exposed to.
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Post by musik on Jul 27, 2022 8:34:29 GMT
People with face masks AND gloves now. Quite a lot actually.
Read a couple of days that a fourth jab is very good to take since it diminishes the risk of a severe Covid-19 disease by 30%, and the protection lasts two months.
Eeh ... Is the idea you'll have to take the dose 6 times a year then?
I had my 3rd jab in January, and wont have any further due to experienced side effects. I reckon I have no protection whatsoever now.
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Post by Northy on Jul 27, 2022 10:03:12 GMT
You mean it wasn't Fauci and Gates sterilising the worlds population
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Post by Northy on Jul 27, 2022 10:11:26 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff. Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end. Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet. You should never be forgiven. Which economy was shut down for 2 years ? Can you give us a link from March 2020 showing who was warning about lockdown issues ? Domestic abuse was known about, we ramped up the system for the government and Patel mentioned it in Parliament in April 20. Just like Furlough, we got 12000 civil servants onto a new software system complete with servers etc in 3 weeks. As we, the company I work for.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 27, 2022 11:38:44 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff. Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end. Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet. You should never be forgiven. Which economy was shut down for 2 years ? Can you give us a link from March 2020 showing who was warning about lockdown issues ? Domestic abuse was known about, we ramped up the system for the government and Patel mentioned it in Parliament in April 20. Just like Furlough, we got 12000 civil servants onto a new software system complete with servers etc in 3 weeks. As we, the company I work for. Is this a serious post? Anyone with half a brain could have told you that by locking society up would have led to the issues we are now facing. Countless politicians, scientists, millions of Brits and indeed many on this message board warned of the collateral damage from lockdowns. The Barrington Declaration was signed off in March 2020 wasn't it? Plus, it's one thing accepting the proposed 3 week March 2020 lockdown, it's another thinking it should have continued for months on end and then supporting further lockdowns in the future
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Post by Davef on Jul 27, 2022 12:06:32 GMT
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Post by superjw on Jul 27, 2022 12:13:03 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff. Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end. Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet. You should never be forgiven. Unfortunately there are too many people who think it was all worth it, even knowing what we do now and the after effects on our lives.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 27, 2022 12:23:16 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff. Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end. Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet. You should never be forgiven. Imagine writing all that without mentioning the 10 years of austerity beforehand that cut mental health, addiction, domestic abuse budgets to the bone..........
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Post by Northy on Jul 27, 2022 12:28:59 GMT
Which economy was shut down for 2 years ? Can you give us a link from March 2020 showing who was warning about lockdown issues ? Domestic abuse was known about, we ramped up the system for the government and Patel mentioned it in Parliament in April 20. Just like Furlough, we got 12000 civil servants onto a new software system complete with servers etc in 3 weeks. As we, the company I work for. Is this a serious post? Anyone with half a brain could have told you that by locking society up would have led to the issues we are now facing. Countless politicians, scientists, millions of Brits and indeed many on this message board warned of the collateral damage from lockdowns. The Barrington Declaration was signed off in March 2020 wasn't it? Plus, it's one thing accepting the proposed 3 week March 2020 lockdown, it's another thinking it should have continued for months on end and then supporting further lockdowns in the future Of course it's a serious post, I'm asking you which economy was shutdown for 2 years, anyone with half a brain would know that no economy was shut down for 2 years, unless you can provide the data that you are claiming happened ? Where was this proposed lockdown for 3 weeks, it was never mentioned how long it would last for at the outset, unless you can provide that data contrary to the governments statement ? www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-address-to-the-nation-on-coronavirus-23-march-2020I believe The Barrington declaration was signed off on 4th October 2020 when a lot more was known about the virus, when people had time to assess it's initial impact, 6 months after you think it was, unless you can provide data otherwise to the fact ?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 27, 2022 12:33:28 GMT
Imagine cheering on shutting down an economy for two years and then at the end of it all wondering why you can't afford stuff. Imagine celebrating the idea of the health service you pay for shutting you out for non covid related illness and then wondering at the end of it all why you can't get a GP appointment or referral for months on end. Imagine shouting down and demonising those who warned that by locking and masking the nation up, we were heading for a societal disaster whereby mental health, addiction and domestic abuse would go through the roof while productivity ends up in the toilet. You should never be forgiven. Imagine writing all that without mentioning the 10 years of austerity beforehand that cut mental health, addiction, domestic abuse budgets to the bone.......... Straw man Central over here..
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 27, 2022 12:44:35 GMT
Imagine writing all that without mentioning the 10 years of austerity beforehand that cut mental health, addiction, domestic abuse budgets to the bone.......... Straw man Central over here.. Yes those mental health workers that no longer exist to deal with a mental health crisis made worse by a pandemic is a real strawman argument........
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 27, 2022 12:47:19 GMT
Is this a serious post? Anyone with half a brain could have told you that by locking society up would have led to the issues we are now facing. Countless politicians, scientists, millions of Brits and indeed many on this message board warned of the collateral damage from lockdowns. The Barrington Declaration was signed off in March 2020 wasn't it? Plus, it's one thing accepting the proposed 3 week March 2020 lockdown, it's another thinking it should have continued for months on end and then supporting further lockdowns in the future Of course it's a serious post, I'm asking you which economy was shutdown for 2 years, anyone with half a brain would know that no economy was shut down for 2 years, unless you can provide the data that you are claiming happened ? Where was this proposed lockdown for 3 weeks, it was never mentioned how long it would last for at the outset, unless you can provide that data contrary to the governments statement ? www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-address-to-the-nation-on-coronavirus-23-march-2020I believe The Barrington declaration was signed off on 4th October 2020 when a lot more was known about the virus, when people had time to assess it's initial impact, 6 months after you think it was, unless you can provide data otherwise to the fact ? This is hilarious. You were one of the most vehement supporters of lockdowns on this message board and are now suggesting that in October 2020 we knew more about the consequences of lockdown. So explain the chaos that was seen in the following 6 months post October 2020? Relentless calls for lockdowns, masks, distancing, shutting down schools and ultimately a December lockdown. You supported all of that. Why? Re the GBD, didn't signatories start in March 2020? It was published in October. Either way, that's neither here nor there, what point are you trying to make? Lockdowns were a total disaster and a total failing of society. You supported them. Do you regret that?
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Post by Northy on Jul 27, 2022 13:04:40 GMT
Of course it's a serious post, I'm asking you which economy was shutdown for 2 years, anyone with half a brain would know that no economy was shut down for 2 years, unless you can provide the data that you are claiming happened ? Where was this proposed lockdown for 3 weeks, it was never mentioned how long it would last for at the outset, unless you can provide that data contrary to the governments statement ? www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-address-to-the-nation-on-coronavirus-23-march-2020I believe The Barrington declaration was signed off on 4th October 2020 when a lot more was known about the virus, when people had time to assess it's initial impact, 6 months after you think it was, unless you can provide data otherwise to the fact ? This is hilarious. You were one of the most vehement supporters of lockdowns on this message board and are now suggesting that in October 2020 we knew more about the consequences of lockdown. So explain the chaos that was seen in the following 6 months post October 2020? Relentless calls for lockdowns, masks, distancing, shutting down schools and ultimately a December lockdown. You supported all of that. Why? Re the GBD, didn't signatories start in March 2020? It was published in October. Either way, that's neither here nor there, what point are you trying to make? Lockdowns were a total disaster and a total failing of society. You supported them. Do you regret that? One of the more vehement supporters. If you recall, I went on as many holidays as possible after everyone was over, I was staying in Key worker hotels eating shitty takeaways and getting cans of beer from Asda (may have been the months before you joined the thread) I drove to London to fetch my daughter the day Boris said no one to leave London, we had discussions around your hindsight and I said that they were originally brought in to stop the virus spreading and stop the NHS being overrun, which if you read the Governments statement above, it states that, as I said previously, people didn't want further lockdowns after the first one, once it was understood. No, the GBD didn't start in March 2020, the first meeting was in September 2020, it isn't by and by, it shows you use false facts, exaggerations, accusations, hyperboles and whatever in your posts on this thread to try and get your point across. Are you going to answer any of the questions I asked above in the 2 posts, or just continue to post baseless facts as in your first post I queried, instead of going off on a tangent ?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 27, 2022 13:08:06 GMT
This is hilarious. You were one of the most vehement supporters of lockdowns on this message board and are now suggesting that in October 2020 we knew more about the consequences of lockdown. So explain the chaos that was seen in the following 6 months post October 2020? Relentless calls for lockdowns, masks, distancing, shutting down schools and ultimately a December lockdown. You supported all of that. Why? Re the GBD, didn't signatories start in March 2020? It was published in October. Either way, that's neither here nor there, what point are you trying to make? Lockdowns were a total disaster and a total failing of society. You supported them. Do you regret that? One of the more vehement supporters. If you recall, I went on as many holidays as possible after everyone was over, I was staying in Key worker hotels eating shitty takeaways and getting cans of beer from Asda (may have been the months before you joined the thread) I drove to London to fetch my daughter the day Boris said no one to leave London, we had discussions around your hindsight and I said that they were originally brought in to stop the virus spreading and stop the NHS being overrun, which if you read the Governments statement above, it states that, as I said previously, people didn't want further lockdowns after the first one, once it was understood. No, the GBD didn't start in March 2020, the first meeting was in September 2020, it isn't by and by, it shows you use false facts, exaggerations, accusations, hyperboles and whatever in your posts on this thread to try and get your point across. Are you going to answer any of the questions I asked above in the 2 posts, or just continue to post baseless facts as in your first post I queried, instead of going off on a tangent ? This is quite something. So before I answer your two questions, can you confirm whether you were supportive of lockdowns or not? I can't quite believe I'm hearing this š
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 27, 2022 13:46:46 GMT
Of course it's a serious post, I'm asking you which economy was shutdown for 2 years, anyone with half a brain would know that no economy was shut down for 2 years, unless you can provide the data that you are claiming happened ? Where was this proposed lockdown for 3 weeks, it was never mentioned how long it would last for at the outset, unless you can provide that data contrary to the governments statement ? www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-address-to-the-nation-on-coronavirus-23-march-2020I believe The Barrington declaration was signed off on 4th October 2020 when a lot more was known about the virus, when people had time to assess it's initial impact, 6 months after you think it was, unless you can provide data otherwise to the fact ? This is hilarious. You were one of the most vehement supporters of lockdowns on this message board and are now suggesting that in October 2020 we knew more about the consequences of lockdown. So explain the chaos that was seen in the following 6 months post October 2020? Relentless calls for lockdowns, masks, distancing, shutting down schools and ultimately a December lockdown. You supported all of that. Why? Re the GBD, didn't signatories start in March 2020? It was published in October. Either way, that's neither here nor there, what point are you trying to make? Lockdowns were a total disaster and a total failing of society. You supported them. Do you regret that? Do you regret your many posts lauding Maajid Nawaz now he's been outed as a complete tin foil hatter?
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 27, 2022 14:17:29 GMT
Yeah we had a choice. The lockdowns saved a lot of lives and reduced stress on the NHS. I still haven't seen any evidence that letting way more people get infected and die would have helped the economy much. Only angry rants so far. It's like you're living in some kind of alternative reality. Any evidence? You mean like the fact that many now can't afford to buy food and fuel? Or the fact that we've a waiting list of the best part of 10 million and nothing in the country actually works? It's utterly mystifying how this minority of lockdown fanatics completely ignore the catastrophic, and now quite obvious, collateral damage of lockdowns and yet continue to trot out the line of "lockdowns save lives". It'd be comical if it wasn't so creepy. The way I see things, I don't think that just because X happened before Y it doesn't mean that X caused Y. I wouldn't blame MON picking 3-5-2 loads last season caused inflation, for example, even though it sucked and it happened. You would blame masks?
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Post by knype on Jul 27, 2022 14:27:20 GMT
This is hilarious. You were one of the most vehement supporters of lockdowns on this message board and are now suggesting that in October 2020 we knew more about the consequences of lockdown. So explain the chaos that was seen in the following 6 months post October 2020? Relentless calls for lockdowns, masks, distancing, shutting down schools and ultimately a December lockdown. You supported all of that. Why? Re the GBD, didn't signatories start in March 2020? It was published in October. Either way, that's neither here nor there, what point are you trying to make? Lockdowns were a total disaster and a total failing of society. You supported them. Do you regret that? Do you regret your many posts laudingĀ Maajid Nawaz now he's been outed as a complete tin foil hatter?Ā Tin foil hatter š¤£š¤£š¤£ Dear me.
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Post by Northy on Jul 27, 2022 16:45:10 GMT
One of the more vehement supporters. If you recall, I went on as many holidays as possible after everyone was over, I was staying in Key worker hotels eating shitty takeaways and getting cans of beer from Asda (may have been the months before you joined the thread) I drove to London to fetch my daughter the day Boris said no one to leave London, we had discussions around your hindsight and I said that they were originally brought in to stop the virus spreading and stop the NHS being overrun, which if you read the Governments statement above, it states that, as I said previously, people didn't want further lockdowns after the first one, once it was understood. No, the GBD didn't start in March 2020, the first meeting was in September 2020, it isn't by and by, it shows you use false facts, exaggerations, accusations, hyperboles and whatever in your posts on this thread to try and get your point across. Are you going to answer any of the questions I asked above in the 2 posts, or just continue to post baseless facts as in your first post I queried, instead of going off on a tangent ? This is quite something. So before I answer your two questions, can you confirm whether you were supportive of lockdowns or not? I can't quite believe I'm hearing this š Off on a tangent again, just answer the questions or produce the facts to back your claims up, it's really not that hard is it? Or can't you do that as the facts you put up are false ? Just about everyone including me was supportive of the first lockdown to keep the NHS from being over run, nobody knew what was happening, we were ill prepared for it as a country, and didn't have any data, we can't check your feelings on it though can we, as you didn't join the thread until after the first lockdown and anything you say can't be trusted as its all hindsight and bluster.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 27, 2022 16:51:42 GMT
This is hilarious. You were one of the most vehement supporters of lockdowns on this message board and are now suggesting that in October 2020 we knew more about the consequences of lockdown. So explain the chaos that was seen in the following 6 months post October 2020? Relentless calls for lockdowns, masks, distancing, shutting down schools and ultimately a December lockdown. You supported all of that. Why? Re the GBD, didn't signatories start in March 2020? It was published in October. Either way, that's neither here nor there, what point are you trying to make? Lockdowns were a total disaster and a total failing of society. You supported them. Do you regret that? Do you regret your many posts laudingĀ Maajid Nawaz now he's been outed as a complete tin foil hatter?Ā The same Maajid Nawaz who has literally doubled his following since being cancelled by LBC while appearing on some of the largest podcasts on the planet, notably Joe Rogan? Yes, that Maajid Nawaz š
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 27, 2022 16:59:23 GMT
Do you regret your many posts laudingĀ Maajid Nawaz now he's been outed as a complete tin foil hatter?Ā The same Maajid Nawaz who has literally doubled his following since being cancelled by LBC while appearing on some of the largest podcasts on the planet, notably Joe Rogan? Yes, that Maajid Nawaz š Thatās right the one where he peddled 19 inaccurate statements about the vaccine in the space of half an hourā¦..
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