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Post by Clem Fandango on Mar 27, 2020 17:45:45 GMT
Truly awful day... 969 dead today. Similar amount of new cases and critical number up around 150. Awful awful times mate I was a webinar with the head of the 112 service in Lombardy today with a large number of 112 services around Europe. He looked dreadful and is apparently working 22 hour shifts kipping in his office. Lots of medics who are manning the phones are isolated in their contact centre so they can still work without risking going home. He was saying they went from 30 calls to 30000 calls almost overnight with this and nobody was really prepared for it to be this bad.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 27, 2020 17:46:38 GMT
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Post by MilanStokie on Mar 27, 2020 17:46:45 GMT
From the Beeb (who have been excellent in all of this) 17:33 Small glimmer of hope in Italy coronavirus statistics A little earlier we brought you the news that Italy had recorded its biggest rise in its daily death toll so far - with more than 900 new fatalities in the past 24 hours. There is a small glimmer of hope among the shocking statistics, however - the number of new infections (4,401) was lower than the figure recorded on Thursday (4,492). The Civil Protection Agency also reported that 10,950 people had fully recovered on Friday, compared to 10,361 the day before. A total of 9,134 people have died in Italy from the coronavirus - highest death toll in the world. Article share tools I've given up paying attention to the new cases as you can't work out how, where or who the tests have been done.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 27, 2020 17:47:36 GMT
I can heartily recommend One man Two Guvnor's, even for those who might find Corden a bit taxing. It's a proper romp and a joy! Two girls one cup is quite a romp too. đ It is indeed. One leaves quite a different taste in the mouth than the other though
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Post by Northy on Mar 27, 2020 17:53:28 GMT
As far as I'm aware they are helping. Theg have more recent experience. Im not sure that the virus originating there partucularly obliges them to though. I mean when we deliberately bomb the fuck out of somewhere people moan if we take refugees. It just seems weird that they seem to have it solved with very few new cases and they arent being very open about how they did it. Every country is on lockdown around the world and following the WHO advice but it seems out of control. China is claiming no new cases for over a week. Shouldnt they be sharing their knowledge with the world about how to stop it?? 'claiming' is the key word there I think according to this they have 55 new ones www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 27, 2020 18:01:32 GMT
What a great question during the Gover Press Conference
There are large numbers of people across the country reliant on food banks and other charitable efforts. Charities are still working but many food banks have closed and donations are down. Many volunteers are over 70 and have been advised to stay home. Is there going to be financial and logistical support for these charities and are any of the 700,000 people who have volunteered to help the NHS being committed to this effort. Do you regret the bed reductions and the failure to increase nurse training numbers during your tenure, which left the NHS in a position where it entered this crisis with its critical care bed base among the worst in Europe and the UK having the lowest number of nurses and doctors per head amongst developed nations, according to the OECD. Isnât the lesson from this crisis that the NHS needs more capacity at all times if itâs going to be ready to deal with this kind of surge in demand and it canât be made to operate with no slack as has happened under your watch
No answer of course.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 27, 2020 18:02:10 GMT
I'm really becoming disillusioned watching these daily briefings, some brilliant questions being asked by the press but hardly any of them getting answers to the ACTUAL questions that they have asked.
Sadly.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 27, 2020 18:05:57 GMT
I'm really becoming disillusioned watching these daily briefings, some brilliant questions being asked by the press but hardly any of them getting answers to the ACTUAL questions that they have asked. Sadly. Just said exactly the same to the Mrs mate,I thought Gove passed the buck brilliantlyđ¤
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Post by foster on Mar 27, 2020 18:13:54 GMT
Don't want to get political, but if we end up like Italy and Spain, having had an entire month to prepare, then all fingers should rightly be pointed at the government. Here in Belgium I'm keeping up to date on how it's being handled here, in Germany and in France and none of them are anywhere near as lax as the UK. The cases in Belgium are rising slowly but I haven't heard anything about a lack of facilities. A local university has even developed a test that can tell if you have the virus in 15 minutes (70%+ accuracy).
How the fuck can a country of 65+ million (UK) not manage to have enough tests, beds, ventilators and other equipment? Why is it only now that we're hearing about these being sought out or in shortage. We've had 1 month to acquire or manufacture these things ourselves.
The only thing that's saved the governments arse so far is the relatively low fatality rate compared to other countries, but even that number could have been fewer had more been done already.
I just saw that 33k more beds are being made available..... well, that's nice, but what the fuck about the ventilators! A bed isn't going to save someones life.
It seems a case of just waiting for the inevitable.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 27, 2020 18:15:03 GMT
I'm really becoming disillusioned watching these daily briefings, some brilliant questions being asked by the press but hardly any of them getting answers to the ACTUAL questions that they have asked. Sadly. Just said exactly the same to the Mrs mate,I thought Gove passed the buck brilliantlyđ¤ They're simply not answering the questions they're being asked Mutters. What's the point in taking questions, if you're just going to give an answer to something that wasn't even asked?
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 27, 2020 18:17:25 GMT
New NHS hospitals are being built in Birmingham's National Exhibition Centre and Manchester's Central Convention Centre.
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Post by foster on Mar 27, 2020 18:17:36 GMT
I'm really becoming disillusioned watching these daily briefings, some brilliant questions being asked by the press but hardly any of them getting answers to the ACTUAL questions that they have asked. Sadly. Don't think Gove has ever answered a question in his life. He's as infuriating now as he is in the HoCs. I was already saying to everyone here 'watch him now, he won't answer that question..' and sure enough, he didn't let me down. I really wonder why he (and other politicians) never get properly pulled up on it.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 27, 2020 18:17:56 GMT
Just said exactly the same to the Mrs mate,I thought Gove passed the buck brilliantlyđ¤ They're simply not answering the questions they're being asked Mutters. What's the point in taking questions, if you're just going to give an answer to something that wasn't even asked? Couldnât agree more mate and Iâm surprised the journoâs donât come back and say that to them
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Post by foster on Mar 27, 2020 18:20:02 GMT
I'm really becoming disillusioned watching these daily briefings, some brilliant questions being asked by the press but hardly any of them getting answers to the ACTUAL questions that they have asked. Sadly. Just said exactly the same to the Mrs mate,I thought Gove passed the buck brilliantlyđ¤ And even she didn't answer the question on where the tests are coming from... 'a variety of providers'... Yeah, but from WHO and WHERE you fucking dildo!
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 27, 2020 18:20:57 GMT
101-year-old Italian man released from hospital after recovering from coronavirus
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Post by foster on Mar 27, 2020 18:24:04 GMT
101-year-old Italian man released from hospital after recovering from coronavirus Italy's death toll rises by more than 900 - believed to be the sharpest hike in fatalities of any country
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 18:24:11 GMT
I'm really becoming disillusioned watching these daily briefings, some brilliant questions being asked by the press but hardly any of them getting answers to the ACTUAL questions that they have asked. Sadly. Don't think Gove has ever answered a question in his life. He's as infuriating now as he is in the HoCs. I was already saying to everyone here 'watch him now, he won't answer that question..' and sure enough, he didn't let me down. I really wonder why he (and other politicians) never get properly pulled up on it. "Would you like a line Michael?" is maybe the only exception......
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 27, 2020 18:25:34 GMT
They're simply not answering the questions they're being asked Mutters. What's the point in taking questions, if you're just going to give an answer to something that wasn't even asked? Couldnât agree more mate and Iâm surprised the journoâs donât come back and say that to them I imagine each journo is allowed one question each, which doesn't include pulling them up on not answering an original question or asking to be more specific. If journos could co-ordinate their line of questioning amongst themselves, it would be harder for the politicians to wriggle out of answers.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 27, 2020 18:29:43 GMT
101-year-old Italian man released from hospital after recovering from coronavirus Italy's death toll rises by more than 900 - believed to be the sharpest hike in fatalities of any country True, but elderly people need to read such positive news about possibility of recovery for +100 years old patients.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 18:32:09 GMT
Germany still remains the massive anomaly.
Master race.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 27, 2020 18:39:26 GMT
Germany still remains the massive anomaly. Master race. We mock their steely, robotic efficiency but it doesnât half produce results. Theyâre in the top 5 infected in the world I think yet their fatalities are markedly lower, staggering.
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Post by foster on Mar 27, 2020 18:39:35 GMT
Germany still remains the massive anomaly. Master race. Well prepared and well equipped. Didn't waste time locking things down. People trust Angie and their other politicians.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2020 18:41:57 GMT
Germany still remains the massive anomaly. Master race. They must be using some form of treatment over there that's really good? Does anyone know if they are?
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 27, 2020 18:44:43 GMT
Italy's death toll rises by more than 900 - believed to be the sharpest hike in fatalities of any country True, but elderly people need to read such positive news about possibility of recovery for +100 years old patients. How are things in Egypt? The tourist trade will be virtually zero, but thatâs true of everywhere. Are you in Cairo? That could be quite scary.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2020 18:48:00 GMT
Just done some googling This is from The Independent: âWe have been on high alert since January, when the first cases were detected, and we have had time to prepare,â says Professor Marilyn Addo, head of infectious diseases at University Medical Centre Hamburg-Eppendorf. She adds that Germany has learnt from other countries and has been stocking up on test kits and respirators. The high levels of preparation mean Germany has even had capacity to take in a number of critically ill Italian patients â six arrived at Leipzig airport in the eastern state of Saxony on Tuesday morning." Should have been us.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 27, 2020 18:52:24 GMT
They're simply not answering the questions they're being asked Mutters. What's the point in taking questions, if you're just going to give an answer to something that wasn't even asked? Couldnât agree more mate and Iâm surprised the journoâs donât come back and say that to them It's enraging, but the government is actually doing things. I spent a few months doing an internship at parliament providing science info, and I left with much more faith in the civil service and many of our politicians. The wheels of government will be turning to bring help, I bet they're just working at capacity and going down a priority list. Not what you want to hear but I bet there will be people behind the scenes pulling together a food bank plan, they just won't have answers for the politicians just yet. I wish the ministers would come out and say that clearly though: "help is coming". After this we'll need to take a long hard look at things to see how to do better, and get rid of the calamitous ones. Compare that with the US, where state governors are begging for help and the president said "It's a two way street they have to treat us well too." The leader of the country basically said I will leave Americans to die unless your leaders suck up to me. Right now his base will be loving it though, as the Americans getting slaughtered are those in horrible "liberal coastal elite" cities. Watching Trump stick the boot in will be stirring their loins I have no doubt, I wonder if their support will be affected if it rips through the Bible Belt though.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 27, 2020 18:55:04 GMT
Truly awful day... 969 dead today. Similar amount of new cases and critical number up around 150. Awful awful times mate I was a webinar with the head of the 112 service in Lombardy today with a large number of 112 services around Europe. He looked dreadful and is apparently working 22 hour shifts kipping in his office. Lots of medics who are manning the phones are isolated in their contact centre so they can still work without risking going home. He was saying they went from 30 calls to 30000 calls almost overnight with this and nobody was really prepared for it to be this bad. New York reported that it broke its 9/11 emergency calls numbers. And we're probably only at the beginning of the wave. I'm hearing more & more people at home taking it seriously at least, except my mate's Dad who's sort of trying but still popping to the shops daily. He's beaten cancer multiple times and survived an air-to-air collision in the RAF so I'm really hoping he's just unkillable.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 27, 2020 18:57:08 GMT
True, but elderly people need to read such positive news about possibility of recovery for +100 years old patients. How are things in Egypt? The tourist trade will be virtually zero, but thatâs true of everywhere. Are you in Cairo? That could be quite scary. Yes, I am in Cairo, everything closes at 7 pm, and no one is allowed to go out for any reason after that. Till now it is under control in Egypt (495 cases - 24 deaths - 102 total recovery) , if the outbreak started to expand here it will explode but thanks god it is still under control, we dont know the reason, some experts suggests hot weather and humidity are the reason although WHO rejects this theory. Thousands of Egyptians came back from different destinations especially Italy, I have been to Lombardy once and nearly everybody I met there was Egyptian, however it is still under control despite return of thousands from there, I wish this quietness continues.
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Post by mattyd on Mar 27, 2020 19:00:40 GMT
Hi Dr H. Whats it like in Cairo. One of my cousins there is a virologist at the University, they were instrumental in finding a vaccine for MERS many years ago.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 27, 2020 19:01:07 GMT
Just done some googling This is from The Independent: âWe have been on high alert since January, when the first cases were detected, and we have had time to prepare,â says Professor Marilyn Addo, head of infectious diseases at University Medical Centre Hamburg-Eppendorf. She adds that Germany has learnt from other countries and has been stocking up on test kits and respirators. The high levels of preparation mean Germany has even had capacity to take in a number of critically ill Italian patients â six arrived at Leipzig airport in the eastern state of Saxony on Tuesday morning." Should have been us. One thing is for certain, they wont be having a close family members like I have had the last two days going in to a days Health Service work with zero PPE.
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