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Post by crapslinger on Mar 26, 2020 12:25:18 GMT
For once I am in total agreement with Piers Morgan, why is this c*nt getting treatment he deserves everything he gets with no medical intervention what a prize fcuking prick, karma indeed.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 26, 2020 12:26:13 GMT
Very uninteresting actually unless they change the time everyday you have yesterday less than 24h today and every day forward is 24h. Another labour tinfoiler. You've gone mad mate. No one was suggesting it was a criticism of anyone or anything, just an explanation of what happened yesterday and what will happen moving forward. Jeez! Mate no madness here had a lovely 6 45am walk with the dogs in crisp -1c air and no fukker around if the neighbours dont grass me up I might go out again at 7pm I went to her feed and the replies are of that ilk and she pointedly says the government is changing the reporting no the department of health / nhs are just a bet she like you doesnt say what a great job the government is doing treating people in hospital because that is also the department of health / nhs and not the government.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 26, 2020 12:28:44 GMT
While these cases are fascinating, as well as disturbing we have to assume they are rare and exceptional. Not everyone is going around licking toilet seats and the people who are mentally unhinged and will probably face the consequences. It's really a kind of self harming I guess. You reap what you sow in this case. The other clue there is...... USA!....what do you expect?......Vote for a Nutter and what do you get?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 26, 2020 12:33:33 GMT
I can't do the links but there is a really interesting piece that I've seen today about how the Atalanta v Valencia tie had the potential to be the catalyst for what we've seen in Begramo, Italy. Atalanta's ground wasn't big enough to host the tie so it was moved to Milan where over 40,000 people descended on the fixture. It was such a huge game in the history of the club that those with mild fever or symptoms simply wouldn't have felt ill enough not to attend so went along.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 26, 2020 12:35:29 GMT
I can't do the links but there is a really interesting piece that I've seen today about how the Atalanta v Valencia tie had the potential to be the catalyst for what we've seen in Begramo, Italy. Atalanta's ground wasn't big enough to host the tie so it was moved to Milan where over 40,000 people descended on the fixture. It was such a huge game in the history of the club that those with mild fever or symptoms simply wouldn't have felt ill enough not to attend so went along. I wonder how many picked up/carried this virus at the Liverpool v Ath Madrid match? Mind boggles! Should never have happened.
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Post by skip on Mar 26, 2020 12:36:19 GMT
You are a full-on asshole Berahinosgoals, or whatever the fuck your name is, Why for posting something I've read in the internet to look at with your own discretion and mind? I've got nothing against anyone but then there are full on arse holes like you who think everyone must be an arsehole or racist to post something you dont agree with, especially if it involves another culture or race. Just like that skip fella, I'm not surprised he is a students lecturer. You have a closed mind. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a student, knows it all with zero life experience <logs back on to Oatcake> ha ha. Fucking priceless. How on Earth is working with 150 students from all around the world with different cultural and education life experiences the profession of someone with a closed mind? Staggering. Only on the Oatcake.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 26, 2020 12:36:57 GMT
I can't do the links but there is a really interesting piece that I've seen today about how the Atalanta v Valencia tie had the potential to be the catalyst for what we've seen in Begramo, Italy. Atalanta's ground wasn't big enough to host the tie so it was moved to Milan where over 40,000 people descended on the fixture. It was such a huge game in the history of the club that those with mild fever or symptoms simply wouldn't have felt ill enough not to attend so went along. I wonder how many picked up/carried this virus at the Liverpool v Ath Madrid match? Mind boggles! Should never have happened. How is Liverpool faring in the battle against the virus? Do we know?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 26, 2020 12:37:18 GMT
Why for posting something I've read in the internet to look at with your own discretion and mind? I've got nothing against anyone but then there are full on arse holes like you who think everyone must be an arsehole or racist to post something you dont agree with, especially if it involves another culture or race. Just like that skip fella, I'm not surprised he is a students lecturer. You have a closed mind. I wouldn't be surprised if you are a student, knows it all with zero life experience <logs back on to Oatcake> ha ha. Fucking priceless. How on Earth is working with 150 students from all around the world with different cultural and education life experiences the profession of someone with a closed mind? Staggering. Only on the Oatcake. Working with them for starters. The know it alls of everything.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Mar 26, 2020 12:40:46 GMT
<logs back on to Oatcake> ha ha. Fucking priceless. How on Earth is working with 150 students from all around the world with different cultural and education life experiences the profession of someone with a closed mind? Staggering. Only on the Oatcake. Working with them for starters. The know it alls of everything. All due respect but the definition of a student is someone who is learning and therefore clearly cant know it all or they wouldnt need to.
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Post by thestatusquo on Mar 26, 2020 12:42:36 GMT
I just been told I am furloughed as of 1st April. So gonna do my bit and do some voluntary work delivering prescriptions. 2 reasons... 1 it gets me out of the house, 2 The Polish pharmacist is as fit as fuck. Just check your rise in temperature when you see her is purely hormonal 🤪
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 26, 2020 12:44:43 GMT
Working with them for starters. The know it alls of everything. All due respect but the definition of a student is someone who is learning and therefore clearly cant know it all or they wouldnt need to. I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group
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Post by skip on Mar 26, 2020 12:49:02 GMT
<logs back on to Oatcake> ha ha. Fucking priceless. How on Earth is working with 150 students from all around the world with different cultural and education life experiences the profession of someone with a closed mind? Staggering. Only on the Oatcake. Working with them for starters. The know it alls of everything. They're not know it alls. Quite the opposite. Most of them have flown half way around the world to live on their own, in a massive city, to study new things. Hardly the actions of know alls.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Mar 26, 2020 12:49:17 GMT
All due respect but the definition of a student is someone who is learning and therefore clearly cant know it all or they wouldnt need to. I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group I have a lot of time for the young on this. Given they disproportionately didnt want Brexit and they care more about climate change, they've learned they live in a "not my future not my problem" society. They are still wrong. But I can see where they get it from.
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Post by skip on Mar 26, 2020 12:49:57 GMT
All due respect but the definition of a student is someone who is learning and therefore clearly cant know it all or they wouldnt need to. I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group Where?
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Post by skip on Mar 26, 2020 12:53:14 GMT
<logs back on to Oatcake> ha ha. Fucking priceless. How on Earth is working with 150 students from all around the world with different cultural and education life experiences the profession of someone with a closed mind? Staggering. Only on the Oatcake. Working with them for starters. The know it alls of everything. Also, part of my contractual obligations as an academic is research, which again, means that rather than being a know all, you could define me as a 'want to study and learn more' kind of person. Some of my areas of interest include the impact of memory on contemporary thinking, lateral thinking as a work mode and nostalgia and cliche. The Oatcake has been one of my favourite informal case studies for well over two decades.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 26, 2020 12:57:00 GMT
Son of Faye ( estranged).........If rumours of a virus were spreading in December what's your view on how long before then reasonably did the virus start? ( I recognise it is an impossible question to answer with certainty but.... ) It seems to me that a reasonable period of time in which there were similar types of deaths which had noticeably different characteristics from other types of deaths before anyone began to realise that a pattern was emerging......my guess would be one to two months minimum.................If this was then followed by a period of denial and argument ....we could be looking at October or before. If the virus is so contagious surely plenty of time for more deaths and a wider spread than we are led to believe? If 80% of the population are eventually expected to get the virus, why not the other 20% ? If it becomes seasonal , what happens to it during the dormant months ( similarly flu' I suppose)? ( Apologies for the basic questions?) I’m not a virologist by trade, (sorry to keep repeating that but I’m trying to do my best from a scientific background rather than necessarily being in the field 😂) but looking at the scientific papers from people that are it’s highly likely the first cases were in early to mid november, the disease produces fairly non-specific symptoms which explains the delay as you’re waiting for a a disproportionate amount of Pneumonia cases before you think something is awry. This is why Li Wenliang thought he saw a pattern in December, it would have taken a month or so for an odd amount of sudden unexplained pneumonia to build up. So you’re probably right at about 1 month. But that is still enough time to reduce its impact if they acted at that point. The lockdown came around a month after Li Wenliang said it could well be another SARS so you have another month of unchecked spread. The 80% figure was listed as the worst case scenario by PHE England. If the virus infected that many people, it becomes difficult to spread as 8 out of 10 people you come into contact with have had it, so the chains of transmission become essential impossible to sustain and the R0 (how many people an infected person infects) drops below 1 and the virus declines in the population. This was initially one of the concepts as to what would happen if we slowed the spread, enough would get it and make it difficult to transmit (incorrectly called Herd Immunity which is what you get when you vaccinate the public, not get infected) but the figures showed it simply wasn’t practical as we couldn’t mitigate the spread to such a scale to save the NHS. The reason flu is seasonal is because it genuinely prefers the cold, warm weather degrades its outer coating which makes it difficult to survive in the air and surfaces for any length of time. But it will still circulate at a very low level. In this time it will also still exist in resevoirs (such as animals) and will mutate and then move back into humans with a different form and thus require a new vaccine. It’s too early to say whether Coronvirus for sure do this but it could well follow a similar pattern. If it does, I imagine it will require annual vaccine design to track the drift like we have for flu. Much appreciated Estrsnged excellent thank you....I obviously don't know if it is true, and the last thing we want is false rumours, but someone normally reliable has told me, this morning, that the authorities are so worried about Covid 19 because it has mutated 3ctines already.......what do you think?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 26, 2020 12:57:26 GMT
All due respect but the definition of a student is someone who is learning and therefore clearly cant know it all or they wouldnt need to. I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group Were they Skip's students though?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 26, 2020 13:01:03 GMT
I’m not a virologist by trade, (sorry to keep repeating that but I’m trying to do my best from a scientific background rather than necessarily being in the field 😂) but looking at the scientific papers from people that are it’s highly likely the first cases were in early to mid november, the disease produces fairly non-specific symptoms which explains the delay as you’re waiting for a a disproportionate amount of Pneumonia cases before you think something is awry. This is why Li Wenliang thought he saw a pattern in December, it would have taken a month or so for an odd amount of sudden unexplained pneumonia to build up. So you’re probably right at about 1 month. But that is still enough time to reduce its impact if they acted at that point. The lockdown came around a month after Li Wenliang said it could well be another SARS so you have another month of unchecked spread. The 80% figure was listed as the worst case scenario by PHE England. If the virus infected that many people, it becomes difficult to spread as 8 out of 10 people you come into contact with have had it, so the chains of transmission become essential impossible to sustain and the R0 (how many people an infected person infects) drops below 1 and the virus declines in the population. This was initially one of the concepts as to what would happen if we slowed the spread, enough would get it and make it difficult to transmit (incorrectly called Herd Immunity which is what you get when you vaccinate the public, not get infected) but the figures showed it simply wasn’t practical as we couldn’t mitigate the spread to such a scale to save the NHS. The reason flu is seasonal is because it genuinely prefers the cold, warm weather degrades its outer coating which makes it difficult to survive in the air and surfaces for any length of time. But it will still circulate at a very low level. In this time it will also still exist in resevoirs (such as animals) and will mutate and then move back into humans with a different form and thus require a new vaccine. It’s too early to say whether Coronvirus for sure do this but it could well follow a similar pattern. If it does, I imagine it will require annual vaccine design to track the drift like we have for flu. Much appreciated Estrsnged excellent thank you....I obviously don't know if it is true, and the last thing we want is false rumours, but someone normally reliable has told me, this morning, that the authorities are so worried about Covid 19 because it has mutated 3ctines already.......what do you think? Iceland have allegedly found 40 mutations, but these are all minor changes to the strain and nothing to which a vaccine couldn’t be prepared against. For comparison, HIV mutates on average 0.34 times every single replication cycle in just a single human, so 40 different mutations across 100s of cases is a negligible number in viral terms for Covid. The relative slowness of these mutations has already made a vaccine much more viable.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 26, 2020 13:05:28 GMT
I wonder how many picked up/carried this virus at the Liverpool v Ath Madrid match? Mind boggles! Should never have happened. How is Liverpool faring in the battle against the virus? Do we know? Doesn't seem to be out of the ordinary at this stage for a big metropolitan area www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274I was in Liverpool that night and plenty of Madrid fans in my hotel, looking back it does seem mad.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 26, 2020 13:07:10 GMT
I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group Where? Leek road, staffs uni.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2020 13:10:11 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 26, 2020 13:14:33 GMT
On the other side of the road Just before you go under the bridge towards stoke
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 26, 2020 13:15:18 GMT
I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group Were they Skip's students though? Probably not
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2020 13:19:11 GMT
On the other side of the road Just before you go under the bridge towards stoke Guessing they were college kids from Sixth Form tbf with that volume. And if they were in College/Uni what else are they meant to do?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 26, 2020 13:21:25 GMT
Were they Skip's students though? Probably not Shouldn't tar everyone with the same brush then should we? #bekind EDIT - it's probably worth noting that the world is already a very different place from what it was this time last week. Would those same 300 kids be doing the same today?
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Mar 26, 2020 13:23:06 GMT
All due respect but the definition of a student is someone who is learning and therefore clearly cant know it all or they wouldnt need to. I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group Why didn't you have this angry attitude towards the people going to the peak district? Where you said you could understand them going there....
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 26, 2020 13:26:00 GMT
I wonder how many picked up/carried this virus at the Liverpool v Ath Madrid match? Mind boggles! Should never have happened. How is Liverpool faring in the battle against the virus? Do we know? Liverpool is faring comparatively well apparently so far, but there would have been a lot of people from outside Liverpool at that game anyway. maybe this is from the article you refer to On 19 February, 2,500 Valencia soccer fans mixed with 40,000 Atalanta supporters for a Champions League game in Bergamo which Giorgio Gori, mayor of the Italian city, has described as “the bomb” which exploded the virus in Lombardy. In Spain, Valencia players, fans and sports journalists were amongst the first to fall ill."
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Post by berahinosgoals on Mar 26, 2020 13:28:00 GMT
I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group Why didn't you have this angry attitude towards the people going to the peak district? Where you said you could understand them going there.... A quiet walk in a country park is hardly a mass of people in a tight group though is it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2020 13:29:03 GMT
I think we all know where I'm coming from, just last week I witnessed approx 300 tightly grouped students moving from one building to another as good as hand in hand. It would be a different story if this virus was attacking their age group Why didn't you have this angry attitude towards the people going to the peak district? Where you said you could understand them going there.... And this was literally at a time when the uni and college were open and the students were doing their normal day like they had been told. Not a case of them not caring, just carrying on.
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Post by skip on Mar 26, 2020 13:29:43 GMT
How is Liverpool faring in the battle against the virus? Do we know? Doesn't seem to be out of the ordinary at this stage for a big metropolitan area www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274I was in Liverpool that night and plenty of Madrid fans in my hotel, looking back it does seem mad. How poetic (cautious use of the word) that was a team from Madrid, which is now in an awful place with cases shooting through the roof. Let's hope for everyones sake, it isn't equally as prophetic. I was supposed to be teaching in Madrid the first half of this week, and then travelling to Barcelona (notices day), today, to repeat the exercise at a different Design College. Sigh. I'd been looking forward to this. Oh well.
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