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Post by smallthorner on Mar 23, 2020 22:24:28 GMT
I thought the message was very clear. Stay at home. Yes people just dont seem to hear it, stay at home dont spread the disease, dont overwhelm the nhs etc etc But he hasnt said I cant go to my job at the panini factory making stickers blah blah blah STAY AT HOME Try telling that to a bloke on 12 pound an hour who's got three kids to support and his employer could sack him if he stayed at home. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Mar 23, 2020 22:27:22 GMT
Would love for MilanStokie to give us his thoughts on this.
The situation he is in is harrowing from his posts on here but they have given an unbelievable first hand account of life in Italy and his comments on this would be hugely appreciated! 🙏
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 23, 2020 22:28:18 GMT
It made perfect sense to me but i don't analyse the living daylights out of everything.
The bloke has been trying to get the message out there but apparently its more important to get a last pint in or piss off to a flower market or the seaside cause its sunny.
- stay in as much as possible
- go out for to pick up essentials (groceries/medication)
- go out once a day to exercise (stay the fuck away from others while you do it)
- Work from home, if you can. If you can't is your job essential? In most cases, it won't be and the Government is going to cover 80% of your earnings. Self employed will get their situation dealt with. If a boss lays you off for not going in i would imagine he will have his ass handed to him in the courts once this is over.
The scenarios with a house needing to be ready at the weekend are the exceptions not the norm. Government can't consider every scenario to the n'th degree.
For Gods sake people, use your common sense and stay safe.
It's working here in Canada.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 23, 2020 22:30:29 GMT
If you go to the twitter page now, it's been deleted.
I am now, really, really concerned, if this is how it's going to be from the start, I have very little confidence in the people 'protecting' us.
It's an utter shambles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 22:31:18 GMT
I went regardless, it was open.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 23, 2020 22:31:42 GMT
Yes people just dont seem to hear it, stay at home dont spread the disease, dont overwhelm the nhs etc etc But he hasnt said I cant go to my job at the panini factory making stickers blah blah blah STAY AT HOME He did not say that at all. He literally talked about ventilators, other health services being overwhelmed best way to avoid spreading it. "From this evening I must give the british people a very simple instruction, You must stay at home." I dont know just reading between the lines there but I think that means stay at home. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 23, 2020 22:31:58 GMT
It made perfect sense to me but i don't analyse the living daylights out of everything. The bloke has been trying to get the message out there but apparently its more important to get a last pint in or piss off to a flower market or the seaside cause its sunny. - stay in as much as possible - go out for to pick up essentials (groceries/medication) - go out once a day to exercise (stay the fuck away from others while you do it) - Work from home, if you can. If you can't is your job essential? In most cases, it won't be and the Government is going to cover 80% of your earnings. Self employed will get their situation dealt with. If a boss lays you off for not going in i would imagine he will have his ass handed to him in the courts once this is over. The scenarios with a house needing to be ready at the weekend are the exceptions not the norm. Government can't consider every scenario to the n'th degree. For Gods sake people, use your common sense and stay safe. It's working here in Canada. Fair post, but on the point on being essential. If it proves to be true that businesses are to decide themselves if they are classed as "essential" - then it gets bloody confusing doesn't it? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 22:32:40 GMT
It made perfect sense to me but i don't analyse the living daylights out of everything. The bloke has been trying to get the message out there but apparently its more important to get a last pint in or piss off to a flower market or the seaside cause its sunny. - stay in as much as possible - go out for to pick up essentials (groceries/medication) - go out once a day to exercise (stay the fuck away from others while you do it) - Work from home, if you can. If you can't is your job essential? In most cases, it won't be and the Government is going to cover 80% of your earnings. Self employed will get their situation dealt with. If a boss lays you off for not going in i would imagine he will have his ass handed to him in the courts once this is over. The scenarios with a house needing to be ready at the weekend are the exceptions not the norm. Government can't consider every scenario to the n'th degree. For Gods sake people, use your common sense and stay safe. It's working here in Canada. So what was the point of grandstanding the "announcement", to say absolutely nothing new? |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 23, 2020 22:35:19 GMT
It made perfect sense to me but i don't analyse the living daylights out of everything. The bloke has been trying to get the message out there but apparently its more important to get a last pint in or piss off to a flower market or the seaside cause its sunny. - stay in as much as possible - go out for to pick up essentials (groceries/medication) - go out once a day to exercise (stay the fuck away from others while you do it) - Work from home, if you can. If you can't is your job essential? In most cases, it won't be and the Government is going to cover 80% of your earnings. Self employed will get their situation dealt with. If a boss lays you off for not going in i would imagine he will have his ass handed to him in the courts once this is over. The scenarios with a house needing to be ready at the weekend are the exceptions not the norm. Government can't consider every scenario to the n'th degree. For Gods sake people, use your common sense and stay safe. It's working here in Canada. You're not correct though mate. Read up on the 80% of earnings bit. It's a clucking nightmare for employers and employees alike. I'm not for one minute saying this is an easy situation for the Government .. but it has gone apesh*t confusion ad regards the work situation. Nobody is going to put their nuts on the table and issue a clear directive. Shitstorm central... seriously. |
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 23, 2020 22:35:34 GMT
It's not a case of people not 'hearing' it, it's a case of people not understanding it and for very good reason ... the two pieces of official advice from the government this evening are clearly contradicting each other! And he never said it. 😂 Watch it again he literally says You must stay at home..... |
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Post by Foster on Mar 23, 2020 22:37:34 GMT
Not really sure how you can say this...
"Without a huge national effort to halt the growth of this virus, there will come a moment when no health service in the world could possibly cope; because there won't be enough ventilators, enough intensive care beds, enough doctors and nurses," he said.
... And yet doesn't even enforce a lockdown equal to that in Holland, Belgium or Germany.... Let alone Italy or Spain.
I fear it may be too little too late.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 22:37:46 GMT
It made perfect sense to me but i don't analyse the living daylights out of everything. The bloke has been trying to get the message out there but apparently its more important to get a last pint in or piss off to a flower market or the seaside cause its sunny. - stay in as much as possible - go out for to pick up essentials (groceries/medication) - go out once a day to exercise (stay the fuck away from others while you do it) - Work from home, if you can. If you can't is your job essential? In most cases, it won't be and the Government is going to cover 80% of your earnings. Self employed will get their situation dealt with. If a boss lays you off for not going in i would imagine he will have his ass handed to him in the courts once this is over. The scenarios with a house needing to be ready at the weekend are the exceptions not the norm. Government can't consider every scenario to the n'th degree. For Gods sake people, use your common sense and stay safe. It's working here in Canada.
Shitstorm central... seriously. That is the main problem now, and it has been all along. |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 23, 2020 22:37:53 GMT
It made perfect sense to me but i don't analyse the living daylights out of everything. The bloke has been trying to get the message out there but apparently its more important to get a last pint in or piss off to a flower market or the seaside cause its sunny. - stay in as much as possible - go out for to pick up essentials (groceries/medication) - go out once a day to exercise (stay the fuck away from others while you do it) - Work from home, if you can. If you can't is your job essential? In most cases, it won't be and the Government is going to cover 80% of your earnings. Self employed will get their situation dealt with. If a boss lays you off for not going in i would imagine he will have his ass handed to him in the courts once this is over. The scenarios with a house needing to be ready at the weekend are the exceptions not the norm. Government can't consider every scenario to the n'th degree. For Gods sake people, use your common sense and stay safe. It's working here in Canada. Fair post, but on the point on being essential. If it proves to be true that businesses are to decide themselves if they are classed as "essential" - then it gets bloody confusing doesn't it? For me its about common sense: - are you a health worker? - are you in the police force? - are you manufacturing much needed medical supplies to combat this chaos? - are you working in a supermarket/pharmacy? All of the above are essential. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 23, 2020 22:38:18 GMT
Apparently Sports Direct are staying open. We are living in an era where the word 'essential' is being redefined before our very eyes.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Mar 23, 2020 22:39:20 GMT
Watch it again he literally says You must stay at home..... What people want if for him to identify which businesses are allowed to stay open and which are not. They want the decision to be made by the Government to prevent ambiguity. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 22:39:32 GMT
Fair post, but on the point on being essential. If it proves to be true that businesses are to decide themselves if they are classed as "essential" - then it gets bloody confusing doesn't it? For me its about common sense: - are you a health worker? - are you in the police force? - are you manufacturing much needed medical supplies to combat this chaos? - are you working in a supermarket/pharmacy? All of the above are essential. Well as long as you are the employer of some of the folks on here who are really confused as to what to do in the morning - they will all be ok. |
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Post by chigstoke on Mar 23, 2020 22:40:13 GMT
Apparently Sports Direct are staying open. We are living in an era where the word 'essential' is being redefined before our very eyes. It's essential that Mike Ashley gets his fat fucking grubby hands on some more cash in yet another '70% sale'. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Mar 23, 2020 22:41:05 GMT
Fair post, but on the point on being essential. If it proves to be true that businesses are to decide themselves if they are classed as "essential" - then it gets bloody confusing doesn't it? For me its about common sense: - are you a health worker? - are you in the police force? - are you manufacturing much needed medical supplies to combat this chaos? - are you working in a supermarket/pharmacy? All of the above are essential. Nobody is disputing that. The issue lies in the fact that non-essential businesses are not being forced to close leaving their employees in limbo. It's a farce. |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 23, 2020 22:41:11 GMT
Fair post, but on the point on being essential. If it proves to be true that businesses are to decide themselves if they are classed as "essential" - then it gets bloody confusing doesn't it? For me its about common sense: - are you a health worker? - are you in the police force? - are you manufacturing much needed medical supplies to combat this chaos? - are you working in a supermarket/pharmacy? All of the above are essential. The normal doesnt know if he has got to work tomorrow or not.. Can you clarify who can and who cannot? |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 23, 2020 22:41:25 GMT
Fair post, but on the point on being essential. If it proves to be true that businesses are to decide themselves if they are classed as "essential" - then it gets bloody confusing doesn't it? For me its about common sense: - are you a health worker? - are you in the police force? - are you manufacturing much needed medical supplies to combat this chaos? - are you working in a supermarket/pharmacy? All of the above are essential. But if the businesses themselves are deciding, it's not upto you the worker to decide. If your boss deems his company to be essential, then you are expected in. For example, Sports Direct have said they will be open tomorrow. They don't fall into any of the categories above, but their workers will be expected in. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 22:41:45 GMT
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 23, 2020 22:43:56 GMT
It made perfect sense to me but i don't analyse the living daylights out of everything. The bloke has been trying to get the message out there but apparently its more important to get a last pint in or piss off to a flower market or the seaside cause its sunny. - stay in as much as possible - go out for to pick up essentials (groceries/medication) - go out once a day to exercise (stay the fuck away from others while you do it) - Work from home, if you can. If you can't is your job essential? In most cases, it won't be and the Government is going to cover 80% of your earnings. Self employed will get their situation dealt with. If a boss lays you off for not going in i would imagine he will have his ass handed to him in the courts once this is over. The scenarios with a house needing to be ready at the weekend are the exceptions not the norm. Government can't consider every scenario to the n'th degree. For Gods sake people, use your common sense and stay safe. It's working here in Canada. You're not correct though mate. Read up on the 80% of earnings bit. It's a clucking nightmare for employers and employees alike. I'm not for one minute saying this is an easy situation for the Government .. but it has gone apesh*t confusion ad regards the work situation. Nobody is going to put their nuts on the table and issue a clear directive. Shitstorm central... seriously. It was no different over here a week ago. Millions of people stopped work, many are in the service industry and have fuck all to fall back on. Governments will get the financial side of it sorted, even the cockwomble playboy we have in charge over here. Having everyone and their dog destitute will wreck everything forever, much easier for them to print money and subsidise the workforce. |
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Post by fulagoals on Mar 23, 2020 22:44:18 GMT
I would have thought Sports Direct had gone under once they shut Benidorm down last week! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 22:44:43 GMT
Well as far as I can see, I should be able to go to the Co Op tomorrow and buy some essentials. Bread, Milk, Butter .... if I hide the whisky under the loaf, I should be ok when stopped and questioned by the police.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 23, 2020 22:45:37 GMT
For me its about common sense: - are you a health worker? - are you in the police force? - are you manufacturing much needed medical supplies to combat this chaos? - are you working in a supermarket/pharmacy? All of the above are essential. But if the businesses themselves are deciding, it's not upto you the worker to decide. If your boss deems his company to be essential, then you are expected in. For example, Sports Direct have said they will be open tomorrow. They don't fall into any of the categories above, but their workers will be expected in. Spot on. Just said the same to my kids. It's the boss who decides. If not.. you are in breach of your employment contract. I'm tried my best to explain this to people. Unless there is a gov law then that's the way it is. |
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Post by Foster on Mar 23, 2020 22:47:04 GMT
Apparently Sports Direct are staying open. We are living in an era where the word 'essential' is being redefined before our very eyes. Lonsdale Trackies with Kickers or Reebok classics are essential mate... Especially as you head further north. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 23, 2020 22:47:35 GMT
But if the businesses themselves are deciding, it's not upto you the worker to decide. If your boss deems his company to be essential, then you are expected in. For example, Sports Direct have said they will be open tomorrow. They don't fall into any of the categories above, but their workers will be expected in. Spot on. Just said the same to my kids. It's the boss who decides. If not.. you are in breach of your employment contract. I'm tried my best to explain this to people. Unless there is a gov law then that's the way it is. So just to confirm, businesses are allowed to define themselves essential or not? |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 23, 2020 22:48:35 GMT
  f This is fucking pathetic. The worst health crisis in a generation and they fucking can’t get a tweet right. |
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Post by felonious on Mar 23, 2020 22:49:04 GMT
Same here, it's a shambles. I thought the message was very clear. Stay at home. Yeah my son's girlfriend was here and staying overnight. She digested the news and got up and went home. It's pretty straightforward really. My daughter's boyfriend finished his shift as a nurse and phoned her.... they both understood the message that they ain't seeing each other for three weeks plus. He's already said that at the weekend anyway because of his job and the announcements from last Monday. It's pretty simple and it's what people have been asking for/ expecting all week. Simple, simple, simple message I think he's saying stay at home.... stay at home. |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 23, 2020 22:49:29 GMT
For me its about common sense: - are you a health worker? - are you in the police force? - are you manufacturing much needed medical supplies to combat this chaos? - are you working in a supermarket/pharmacy? All of the above are essential. But if the businesses themselves are deciding, it's not upto you the worker to decide. If your boss deems his company to be essential, then you are expected in. For example, Sports Direct have said they will be open tomorrow. They don't fall into any of the categories above, but their workers will be expected in. I thought i heard clothing, retail and electrical were told to close? If SportDirect feel they are essential then Ashley is a bigger cock than i gave him credit for. If i worked at the store i'd be staying home tomorrow regardless of what he says. If he sacked me, I'd be seeing him in Court. EDIT: and if people are out shopping for trainers tomorrow you need your head read. You might not have time to wear them in. |
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