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Post by thebet365 on May 11, 2021 9:17:01 GMT
They're running a trial for mixing. As things stand the 2 jab vaccines have to be the same, but the booster jab that they think may be needed is when they're hoping to be able to mix Jabs. Trial, think, hoping & as things stand. All very reassuring isn't it 😂 nothing more than Guniea pigs There's nothing funny about the situation, and you're not having the Jab so there's nothing for you to worry about! Just remember it's us Guniea pigs that are trying to get your life back for you.
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 9:18:29 GMT
Trial, think, hoping & as things stand. All very reassuring isn't it 😂 nothing more than Guniea pigs There's nothing funny about the situation, and you're not having the Jab so there's nothing for you to worry about! Just remember it's us Guniea pigs that are trying to get your life back for you. They'll just move the goalposts like they have time & again. The guinea pigs will keep the process going, imo. They're walking you on a lead like a dog, if nobody listened to them they're powerless
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Post by Northy on May 11, 2021 9:24:12 GMT
They're running a trial for mixing. As things stand the 2 jab vaccines have to be the same, but the booster jab that they think may be needed is when they're hoping to be able to mix Jabs. Trial, think, hoping & as things stand. All very reassuring isn't it 😂 nothing more than Guniea pigs If nothing is ever trialled, nothing ever gets done, you wouldn't be typing things on a mobile phone, electricity wouldn't have been invented, thank god there are people who put themselves forward or do dangerous things like throwing the first electrical switch, trying to fly a plane, trialling a measles or smallpox vaccine instead of sitting on the side-lines sniping away at those who do.
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 9:26:50 GMT
Trial, think, hoping & as things stand. All very reassuring isn't it 😂 nothing more than Guniea pigs If nothing is ever trialled, nothing ever gets done, you wouldn't be typing things on a mobile phone, electricity wouldn't have been invented, thank god there are people who put themselves forward or do dangerous things like throwing the first electrical switch, trying to fly a plane, trialling a measles or smallpox vaccine instead of sitting on the side-lines sniping away at those who do. You've heard Alan jones, he knows the score, it's a scaredemic, a minority of a minority get seriously ill with covid. They're loving it, they've got the nation hanging on their every word and permission, they've never had it so good. They won't be handing it back anytime soon. If they cared about your health they wouldn't sell fags or junk food, they'd tax junk food heavily so it was near unaffordable to buy. Both are umpteenth times more deadly than covid
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Post by musik on May 11, 2021 9:58:53 GMT
If they cared about your health they wouldn't sell fags or junk food, they'd tax junk food heavily so it was near unaffordable to buy. Both are umpteenth times more deadly than covid In a way you're absolutely right here, but I think they've thrown in the factor "free will" into the calculation. THEY consider lung problems and obesity to be anyone's choice, while Covid-19 isn't. I don't agree. My guess anyway.
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 10:06:03 GMT
If they cared about your health they wouldn't sell fags or junk food, they'd tax junk food heavily so it was near unaffordable to buy. Both are umpteenth times more deadly than covid In a way you're absolutely right here, but I think they've thrown in the factor "free will" into the calculation. THEY consider lung problems and obesity to be anyone's choice, while Covid-19 isn't. I don't agree. My guess anyway. The government have not been offering free will for 14 months, if that was the case the money would have been pumped into shielding the people perceived to be high risk and everybody else would have their free will to go about their business, instead perfectly healthy people have lost businesses, had their mental & physical health deteriorated, lost jobs, homes and general well being. That's not caring, that's inhumane. Yet still the covid following is like a cult. It's really opened my (and no doubt the governments) eyes to the power of fearmongering
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Post by starkiller on May 11, 2021 10:45:27 GMT
Trial, think, hoping & as things stand. All very reassuring isn't it 😂 nothing more than Guniea pigs There's nothing funny about the situation, and you're not having the Jab so there's nothing for you to worry about! Just remember it's us Guniea pigs that are trying to get your life back for you. Not only did the WHO change the definition of 'pandemic' for this agenda, they also changed the long established understanding of herd immunity to suit this jab and slavery pass agenda. Everything about it literally screams 'agenda'.
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Post by musik on May 11, 2021 12:15:46 GMT
In a way you're absolutely right here, but I think they've thrown in the factor "free will" into the calculation. THEY consider lung problems and obesity to be anyone's choice, while Covid-19 isn't. I don't agree. My guess anyway. The government have not been offering free will for 14 months, if that was the case the money would have been pumped into shielding the people perceived to be high risk and everybody else would have their free will to go about their business, instead perfectly healthy people have lost businesses, had their mental & physical health deteriorated, lost jobs, homes and general well being. That's not caring, that's inhumane. Yet still the covid following is like a cult. It's really opened my (and no doubt the governments) eyes to the power of fearmongering Yeah, I know, governments around the globe haven't been offering free will for 17 months. But that's in line with what I just wrote and the fact these governments don't see Covid-19 as something you can choose or not, to have. So on the contrary to donuts and obesity, fags and lung problems, Covid-19 isn't seen as something one can choose. But that's open to debate obviously.
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 12:19:12 GMT
The government have not been offering free will for 14 months, if that was the case the money would have been pumped into shielding the people perceived to be high risk and everybody else would have their free will to go about their business, instead perfectly healthy people have lost businesses, had their mental & physical health deteriorated, lost jobs, homes and general well being. That's not caring, that's inhumane. Yet still the covid following is like a cult. It's really opened my (and no doubt the governments) eyes to the power of fearmongering Yeah, I know, governments around the globe haven't been offering free will for 17 months. But that's in line with what I just wrote and the fact these governments don't see Covid-19 as something you can choose or not, to have. So on the contrary to donuts and obesity, fags and lung problems, Covid-19 isn't seen as something one can choose. But that's open to debate obviously. Nobody chooses to be incarcerated though either, nobody chooses all of the above I've just mentioned. So what do you go with the minority or the majority?
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Post by skemstokie on May 11, 2021 12:25:02 GMT
There's nothing funny about the situation, and you're not having the Jab so there's nothing for you to worry about! Just remember it's us Guniea pigs that are trying to get your life back for you. They'll just move the goalposts like they have time & again. The guinea pigs will keep the process going, imo. They're walking you on a lead like a dog, if nobody listened to them they're powerless Where will you get your "news" from now with Facebook deleting the accounts that are full of lies and false information?
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 12:25:35 GMT
They'll just move the goalposts like they have time & again. The guinea pigs will keep the process going, imo. They're walking you on a lead like a dog, if nobody listened to them they're powerless Where will you get your "news" from now with Facebook deleting the accounts that are full of lies and false information? Lol, says who? Certainly not the BBC or the British media who have a financial interest to peddle their rubbish
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Post by musik on May 11, 2021 12:27:59 GMT
Yeah, I know, governments around the globe haven't been offering free will for 17 months. But that's in line with what I just wrote and the fact these governments don't see Covid-19 as something you can choose or not, to have. So on the contrary to donuts and obesity, fags and lung problems, Covid-19 isn't seen as something one can choose. But that's open to debate obviously. Nobody chooses to be incarcerated though either, nobody chooses all of the above I've just mentioned. So what do you go with the minority or the majority? I'm with you. Noone chooses anything. And according to governments that's the way it should be regarding Covid-19. That's the whole point! But I would go even further. Noone chooses donuts and obesity or fags and lung problems either. So what's the point?
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 12:29:41 GMT
Nobody chooses to be incarcerated though either, nobody chooses all of the above I've just mentioned. So what do you go with the minority or the majority? I'm with you. Noone chooses anything. And according to governments that's the way it should be regarding Covid-19. That's the whole point! But I would go even further. Noone chooses donuts and obesity or fags and lung problems either. So what's the point? So how is it acceptable to ruin people's lives for the tiny minority of a minority of people? You're just totally ignoring the consequences of covid measures
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Post by skemstokie on May 11, 2021 12:30:13 GMT
Yeah, I know, governments around the globe haven't been offering free will for 17 months. But that's in line with what I just wrote and the fact these governments don't see Covid-19 as something you can choose or not, to have. So on the contrary to donuts and obesity, fags and lung problems, Covid-19 isn't seen as something one can choose. But that's open to debate obviously. Nobody chooses to be incarcerated though either, nobody chooses all of the above I've just mentioned. So what do you go with the minority or the majority? The majority will win,the majority wear masks,over 50% of population have already had a vaccine, the majority have followed the advice, it is the minority rule breakers that lengthened the lock-down.
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 12:31:01 GMT
Nobody chooses to be incarcerated though either, nobody chooses all of the above I've just mentioned. So what do you go with the minority or the majority? The majority will win,the majority wear masks,over 50% of population have already had a vaccine, the majority have followed the advice, it is the minority rule breakers that lengthened the lock-down. Oh my good god, you're beyond repair.
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Post by skemstokie on May 11, 2021 12:32:45 GMT
I'm with you. Noone chooses anything. And according to governments that's the way it should be regarding Covid-19. That's the whole point! But I would go even further. Noone chooses donuts and obesity or fags and lung problems either. So what's the point? So how is it acceptable to ruin people's lives for the tiny minority of a minority of people? You're just totally ignoring the consequences of covid measures You are beneath contempt
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 12:35:31 GMT
So how is it acceptable to ruin people's lives for the tiny minority of a minority of people? You're just totally ignoring the consequences of covid measures You are beneath contempt Sorry, I meant 'embarrassingly' beyond repair. Back in the real world, they can't wait for the elderly to snuff it, they won't have to pay a pension. If you think the government care about you and your wellbeing you're deluded. Why do you think the retirement age keeps going up, they want you to work until you drop these caring individuals do
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Post by musik on May 11, 2021 13:15:14 GMT
I'm with you. Noone chooses anything. And according to governments that's the way it should be regarding Covid-19. That's the whole point! But I would go even further. Noone chooses donuts and obesity or fags and lung problems either. So what's the point? So how is it acceptable to ruin people's lives for the tiny minority of a minority of people? You're just totally ignoring the consequences of covid measures No I am not. Not me personally. I'm one of those victims who didn't have surgeries in time because they were canceled, due to them have to prepared IF any Covid-19 cases came into the ICU. But they weren't any Covid-19 cases. Not then and not for weeks to come. I still practice every day to be able to move all of my fingers and hope for the best. I've never been a fan of total lock downs that goes on and on and on long term, as the only solution. Short term yes, 2 weeks tops, but it must be 100%, which is very hard to achieve. But no more, no less. Long term it ruins private economies if they're not enough compensations. And for so many even short term restrictions seem long term. Many can't afford to have 3 days closed in a month. As an economist of course I see the importance of having the economies going as normal as possible. But I do see for instance social distancing and face masks as necessary precautions in a pandemic situation to dampen the numbers of Covid-19 deaths and long term Covid-19 cases. Both these groups will cost the society huge amounts of money for years. If everybody followed the precautions/restrictions, these costs would hit less than otherwise. That's the whole point with restrictions. I'm one of those who think we could have had opened up for some people with thin light blue face masks to watch football games during the whole season we just have had. 10-20% on every game perhaps. Should have been pretty easy to organize. I'm much more skeptical when it comes to cinemas and other indoor activities at a time when the pandemic peaks. Some of the scary information some marginal news media seem to have an obsession to fill us with is nothing but filth and satanic. I'm not sure we talk about the same media here though, the same senders so to say. I hope someone has the knowledge and strength to write a complete book about the consequences of Covid-19, the whole picture. Take care! Noone else will do it for you.
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Post by danceswithclams on May 11, 2021 13:30:02 GMT
it is the minority rule breakers that lengthened the lock-down. You keep saying this but it's blatantly untrue, isn't it? The reason that we've endured several periods of lockdown is solely down to this appalling, corrupt and downright incompetent government's handling of the situation at every juncture. Some people have had a right job done on them though and keep doing the government's bidding by deflecting the blame onto their fellow citizens and away from our contemptible 'leaders'.
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Post by musik on May 11, 2021 13:34:22 GMT
I would like to know how many people can "work from home" in a society like England or Sweden (I don't think there's much of a difference between the two).
They always say: work from home. How many? 5%? 10%?
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Post by stokeuk474 on May 11, 2021 13:50:48 GMT
I would like to know how many people can "work from home" in a society like England or Sweden (I don't think there's much of a difference between the two). They always say: work from home. How many? 5%? 10%? 🤔 I can work from home. 95% of my team are still working from home and have been since March 2020. I also did 7 months at home last year. However, I've chosen to work in the office as it gives me routine and structure to my day, and we have a bit of 'office banter'. It's nice to have the option to work from home every now and again, but I could never do it full time.
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Post by Northy on May 11, 2021 14:38:41 GMT
If nothing is ever trialled, nothing ever gets done, you wouldn't be typing things on a mobile phone, electricity wouldn't have been invented, thank god there are people who put themselves forward or do dangerous things like throwing the first electrical switch, trying to fly a plane, trialling a measles or smallpox vaccine instead of sitting on the side-lines sniping away at those who do. You've heard Alan jones, he knows the score, it's a scaredemic, a minority of a minority get seriously ill with covid. They're loving it, they've got the nation hanging on their every word and permission, they've never had it so good. They won't be handing it back anytime soon. If they cared about your health they wouldn't sell fags or junk food, they'd tax junk food heavily so it was near unaffordable to buy. Both are umpteenth times more deadly than covid Wasn't talking about this current one, but the whole human ethos of people going out on a limb to stride forward with inventions and on back of that helping others, but a good attempt at a diversion away from that
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 11, 2021 14:51:38 GMT
Nobody chooses to be incarcerated though either, nobody chooses all of the above I've just mentioned. So what do you go with the minority or the majority? The majority will win,the majority wear masks,over 50% of population have already had a vaccine, the majority have followed the advice, it is the minority rule breakers that lengthened the lock-down. Ridiculous statement.
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Post by Northy on May 11, 2021 14:54:41 GMT
I'm with you. Noone chooses anything. And according to governments that's the way it should be regarding Covid-19. That's the whole point! But I would go even further. Noone chooses donuts and obesity or fags and lung problems either. So what's the point? So how is it acceptable to ruin people's lives for the tiny minority of a minority of people? You're just totally ignoring the consequences of covid measures How many people's lives have actually been ruined then ? most people continued to work, most that couldn't have been furloughed or on the self employed scheme, I see furloughed people out exercising etc. all the time whilst I'm WFH The gyms have reopened, we'll all be back inside pubs and restaurants next week, UK holidays are back on next week, clubs etc. open in June and all restrictions in the UK lifted, there may have been a few months inconvenience but how many have really had lives ruined ? What is the % of that against the % of deaths ?
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Post by skemstokie on May 11, 2021 14:54:42 GMT
it is the minority rule breakers that lengthened the lock-down. You keep saying this but it's blatantly untrue, isn't it? The reason that we've endured several periods of lockdown is solely down to this appalling, corrupt and downright incompetent government's handling of the situation at every juncture. Some people have had a right job done on them though and keep doing the government's bidding by deflecting the blame onto their fellow citizens and away from our contemptible 'leaders'. Apart from the first bit i agree, "Bonkers Boris" and his minions have a lot to answer for and are contemptible. but the people who spread the disease around by not following the basic rules ( rules adopted in all the country who have suffered less deaths and lock-downs than the U.K.)have NOT helped themselves or their fellow citizens.
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Post by skemstokie on May 11, 2021 14:55:48 GMT
The majority will win,the majority wear masks,over 50% of population have already had a vaccine, the majority have followed the advice, it is the minority rule breakers that lengthened the lock-down. Ridiculous statement. What part do you dispute?
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Post by mtrstudent on May 11, 2021 14:56:05 GMT
There's nothing funny about the situation, and you're not having the Jab so there's nothing for you to worry about! Just remember it's us Guniea pigs that are trying to get your life back for you. They'll just move the goalposts like they have time & again. The guinea pigs will keep the process going, imo. They're walking you on a lead like a dog, if nobody listened to them they're powerless Who is "they" and did "they" get the jab too?
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Post by danceswithclams on May 11, 2021 15:04:59 GMT
You keep saying this but it's blatantly untrue, isn't it? The reason that we've endured several periods of lockdown is solely down to this appalling, corrupt and downright incompetent government's handling of the situation at every juncture. Some people have had a right job done on them though and keep doing the government's bidding by deflecting the blame onto their fellow citizens and away from our contemptible 'leaders'. Apart from the first bit i agree, "Bonkers Boris" and his minions have a lot to answer for and are contemptible. but the people who spread the disease around by not following the basic rules ( rules adopted in all the country who have suffered less deaths and lock-downs than the U.K.)have NOT helped themselves or their fellow citizens. There's absolutely zero evidence that 'people not following the rules' has caused the lengthening of lockdowns though. I've challenged you on this before but you keep repeating it as if it's an immutable fact when it simply isn't true.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 11, 2021 15:09:53 GMT
Apart from the first bit i agree, "Bonkers Boris" and his minions have a lot to answer for and are contemptible. but the people who spread the disease around by not following the basic rules ( rules adopted in all the country who have suffered less deaths and lock-downs than the U.K.)have NOT helped themselves or their fellow citizens. There's absolutely zero evidence that 'people not following the rules' has caused the lengthening of lockdowns though. I've challenged you on this before but you keep repeating it as if it's an immutable fact when it simply isn't true. I still remember when I was a selfish prick for going for a drive, on my own, in a locked metal box. To be fair though I see why I mean the SARSCov2 readings from my exhaust on the emissions test were shocking.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 11, 2021 15:18:04 GMT
What part do you dispute? Well... Because it makes zero sense. Of course "the majority" are wearing masks because its illegal not to and you'll get fined a lot of money. Of course the majority have followed rules because they've had no choice - they've been forced to. And to single out a bunch of people out for prolonging lockdown is mental. Had it not been for the vaccine we'd be in a total state of chaos because lockdowns DO NOT work. They simply brush things under the carpet while dropping a nuclear bomb on the nation. What you should be asking yourself is... If on 21st June masks are no longer mandatory and "no distancing" is legalised then let's see how your "majority" stacks up then. Barely anyone will be wearing masks and barely anyone will distance - frankly whose distancing anymore anyway? Stick your draconian lockdowns up your arse and shove your ghastly masks up there too 😊ðŸ¤
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