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Post by musik on May 10, 2021 18:44:48 GMT
No real trend, small fluctuations?
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Post by musik on May 10, 2021 18:47:13 GMT
Just saw an interesting café tv talk show here with two doctors and a tv host, on national tv. The prognosis is we will face a similar summer as in 2020 and then "it' will begin again and they talked about the mutations and the need for the third dose this autumn. They also said we have had less of the seasonal flu, colds, vinter vomit disease etc, so even if Covid-19 hopefully won't come back next winter to the extent we've had this winter, we will have more cases of the seasonal flu and other things. Our hand washing hygiene and social distancing has helped in not catching colds and the seasonal flu. Everything won't change back to what it once was, just because we got vaccinated. We will still work from home, wash and desinfect our hands and keep the distance. They didn't mention face mask, so perhaps that's more optional. Is this view shared by the British experts?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 10, 2021 18:57:13 GMT
No real trend, small fluctuations? Hopefully!
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 10, 2021 19:25:28 GMT
How much worse can things get...
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Post by musik on May 10, 2021 20:01:54 GMT
How much worse can things get... I eat bread and pasta often. If there is something to eat ...
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Post by mtrstudent on May 10, 2021 20:14:56 GMT
I'll to assume your answers means effective in that it stops someone getting a bad infection and it reduces the chance that someone can transmit it to others. In that case my next question is: do you believe that herd immunity is a real thing and that with enough people vaccinated we'd hit it for covid? Re Fauci: you said "According to many scientists (like the esteemable Dr. Fauci) everyone should still be wearing masks (in fact he now advocates wearing 2 masks). If he and his science is to be believed, the only logical conclusion is that the vaccine is not effective." and I think Fauci's approach there makes total sense there. If we were 100% sure that vaccines were 100% effective against stopping transmission then you wouldn't need masks around unvaccinated people. But we're not 100% sure they're 100% effective so he's playing it safe. Your question: I won't say ever because I don't know much about things like the plague of Justinian, but in living memory I'd say yeah, this is clearly the response to a health-based crisis. My answer: Absolutely, but it's doubtful that herd immunity ever gets to 100%. Re: Fauci, I agree that vaccines can be effective, in order not to contaminate the Q&A format, I'm happy to take that up as a separate issue if you like. Clarification of your answer - in 541 AD the world's GDP (adjusted for inflation and expressed in 2011 dollars) was approximately $200 Billion while in 2019 it was approximately $135 Trillion (135 thousand Billion also adjusted for inflation and expressed in 2011 dollars). The population of the world in 541 AD was somewhere between 150 Million and 300 Million while in 2020 the world population was over 7 Billion. If you think about it for a little bit, I am sure you will agree that more resources have been poured into the response to this pandemic than any other pandemic in the history of the world. My Question - Has the Authorities response to this pandemic negatively impacted more people than any other pandemic ever? Re response size: there're historical accounts of towns being exterminated (e.g. several Jewish communities in bubonic plague outbreaks) and I would say it's also fair to describe "murdering people you blame for the plague" as being a bigger response than lockdowns. But your definition is reasonable too: I'd agree this is the biggest response in terms of net-present-value or number of people affected so I think we've agreed on that question now. Modification of my question: do you agree that if more people are immune to catching or spreading the virus, then there will be less viral spread and fewer total infections in a given time? Your Q: it depends on whether your question is "net" or "gross" and a few other definition thigns too. By "net" I mean how did the authorities' response change people's lives in reality (e.g. compared with just letting the virus go without any response), whereas "gross" means their repsonse in a vaccuum, some kind of alternate reality where there was no virus. I'd say that in gross terms yeah, it's a response that has affected more people than any other pandemic I know about. In net terms it's not clear, I think it's likely they overall saved a lot of jobs & lives.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 10, 2021 20:17:39 GMT
4 Given that people only get rich in a thriving economy who actually benefits from an economic crash? And if the globalists are already all powerful why do they need to engineer an economic crash? That's not true, major corporations benifit greatly from economic down turn, medium size business fails and they take the market share. You only have to looks at the winners and losers to establish this. Amazon all the major supermarkets have seen their market share sore in recent times. It's not about money it's about control of the market. Some individuals and organisations do well out of an economic downturn but overall there is less money to go round and the overall effect is negative even on the rich. If anyone were to organise a full on global economic crash there's less money to go round - everyone loses. Amazon did well during lockdown because shops were shut - given that most things bought on Amazon are non-essential they would lose out big time in the event of an economic crash and it would be nuts for them to get involved in planning one. To claim governments around the world are in on it makes even less sense - which political party gets back in power when the economy tanks? It just doesn't make sense. Amazon was taking over everything before covid anyway. The pandemic response has been profitable for a lot of tech companies, but to twist a conspiracy theory out of that is weird IMO. Bacteria and viruses are real things that we need to respond to. For me it's a bit like deciding gravity is a conspiracy because some companies make money out of building and flying planes.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 10, 2021 20:18:51 GMT
How much worse can things get... Utterly nutterly is that one. I thought her jade vagina eggs cured everything
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Post by mtrstudent on May 10, 2021 20:23:50 GMT
No real trend, small fluctuations? You talking about the UK numbers? This is all good news IMO. R number is stable and probably below 1, so cases should keep shrinking. If the wether brightens up a bit and we keep vaccinating then we're definitely definitely on course for opening up. It really looks like the gamble of spreading out the vaccine doses by 12 weeks paid off massively. I was nervous about that but thank fuck it worked out.
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Post by yyy on May 10, 2021 20:56:19 GMT
Aussie news reporting great deal of evidence that Chinese military discussed corona viruses as a bio weapon.
Aussie news is the only news worth watching these days
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Post by franklin on May 10, 2021 21:06:04 GMT
Aussie news reporting great deal of evidence that Chinese military discussed corona viruses as a bio weapon. Aussie news is the only news worth watching these days Alan Jones is a pisser.
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Post by yyy on May 10, 2021 21:12:33 GMT
Aussie news reporting great deal of evidence that Chinese military discussed corona viruses as a bio weapon. Aussie news is the only news worth watching these days Alan Jones is a pisser. You're not kidding, he's as straight as an arrow he is, straight to the point
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Post by yyy on May 10, 2021 21:19:08 GMT
Alan Jones being Alan Jones 😆
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Post by starkiller on May 10, 2021 21:23:50 GMT
These cunts doing the interviews are just unbelievable. Good to hear Boris being positive against a backdrop of perverse, pathetic negativity from the usual suspects. and that’s why he’s so popular because at least he tries to be positive even when things haven’t gone well. People hate negativity when things aren’t going well because it just brings them down further. If you believe all this, how can the honey monster be so popular if he continuously and repeatedly lets in flights from infected countries? How has this helped? The level of cognitive dissonance here.
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Post by salfordstokie on May 10, 2021 21:25:23 GMT
Apparently we are allowed to hug our families from Monday 17th. But not Sunday, oh no. Covid knows and will punish us if we hug granny a moment before. What a load of old tripe.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 10, 2021 21:47:33 GMT
Alan Jones being Alan Jones 😆 Brilliant. Sky Oz needs to link up with talkradio. Two homes of common sense in a sea of covid obsessed insanity.
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Post by westlandstokie on May 10, 2021 21:53:24 GMT
These cunts doing the interviews are just unbelievable. Good to hear Boris being positive against a backdrop of perverse, pathetic negativity from the usual suspects. No surprise there then. What did they say ? After Boris’s opening comments I turned the TV off because Whitty just makes me angry with his constant negativity and that facial expression of his that makes him look like he is going to start crying 😢...as you can see I can’t stomach the bloke.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 10, 2021 22:33:49 GMT
These cunts doing the interviews are just unbelievable. Good to hear Boris being positive against a backdrop of perverse, pathetic negativity from the usual suspects. No surprise there then. What did they say ? After Boris’s opening comments I turned the TV off because Whitty just makes me angry with his constant negativity and that facial expression of his that makes him look like he is going to start crying 😢...as you can see I can’t stomach the bloke. Just stupid questions like "are you sure we should be hugging people?!" 🙄
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Post by musik on May 10, 2021 23:39:04 GMT
Do you know what vaccines you could mix, a different one for dose 2?
Pfizer for instance. If I get that one on Wednesday, can I have any of the other types the next time in 6 weeks?
The only thing they say is, you'll get what we have on that particular day, noone can say in advance.
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Post by zerps on May 11, 2021 5:40:24 GMT
How much worse can things get... She needs sectioning
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Post by zerps on May 11, 2021 5:41:22 GMT
No surprise there then. What did they say ? After Boris’s opening comments I turned the TV off because Whitty just makes me angry with his constant negativity and that facial expression of his that makes him look like he is going to start crying 😢...as you can see I can’t stomach the bloke. Just stupid questions like "are you sure we should be hugging people?!" 🙄 Can we go on the pull and get off with munters or will that be the next phase?
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Post by Northy on May 11, 2021 6:17:54 GMT
No surprise there then. What did they say ? After Boris’s opening comments I turned the TV off because Whitty just makes me angry with his constant negativity and that facial expression of his that makes him look like he is going to start crying 😢...as you can see I can’t stomach the bloke. Just stupid questions like "are you sure we should be hugging people?!" 🙄 Did anyone ask, when does Tinder go to the next stage ?
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Post by zerps on May 11, 2021 6:37:22 GMT
Imagine being told you can or can’t hug people by Boris
And everyone is ok with it 👍
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Post by starkiller on May 11, 2021 7:19:05 GMT
Imagine being told you can or can’t hug people by Boris And everyone is ok with it 👍 It's the Monty Python world people have become used to. Much of it could be turned into one of their sketches. The scotch egg nonsense writes itself.
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Post by zerps on May 11, 2021 7:40:00 GMT
Imagine being told you can or can’t hug people by Boris And everyone is ok with it 👍 It's the Monty Python world people have become used to. Much of it could be turned into one of their sketches. The scotch egg nonsense writes itself. It’s like a shit episode of black mirror
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 11, 2021 7:44:53 GMT
Just stupid questions like "are you sure we should be hugging people?!" 🙄 Did anyone ask, when does Tinder go to the next stage ? 🤭
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 11, 2021 7:45:11 GMT
Just stupid questions like "are you sure we should be hugging people?!" 🙄 Did anyone ask, when does Tinder go to the next stage ? As of May 17th you can swipe right providing you wash your hands thoroughly afterwards and wear a gimp mask at all times.
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Post by thebet365 on May 11, 2021 7:59:12 GMT
Do you know what vaccines you could mix, a different one for dose 2? Pfizer for instance. If I get that one on Wednesday, can I have any of the other types the next time in 6 weeks? The only thing they say is, you'll get what we have on that particular day, noone can say in advance. They're running a trial for mixing. As things stand the 2 jab vaccines have to be the same, but the booster jab that they think may be needed is when they're hoping to be able to mix Jabs.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 11, 2021 8:26:29 GMT
Do you know what vaccines you could mix, a different one for dose 2? Pfizer for instance. If I get that one on Wednesday, can I have any of the other types the next time in 6 weeks? The only thing they say is, you'll get what we have on that particular day, noone can say in advance. They're running a trial for mixing. As things stand the 2 jab vaccines have to be the same, but the booster jab that they think may be needed is when they're hoping to be able to mix Jabs. I think they said they'd mix jabs if there were any supply issues but I think you're right in that they'll give the same jab if they can. As I understand it there may be some benefit in mixing jabs as the body sometimes recognises the second jab of the same vaccine and fights it off, reducing it's impact. Mixing jabs might actually be more effective and I think they were trialing this using the AZ and Sputnik vaccines. There has been talk of a universal coronavirus vaccine (but that's a while off) and I think at least one of the pharmaceutical companies are looking to provide a combined flu and covid jab in time for the respiratory disease season. Oh and Bill Gates has promised the booster jabs will be 5G enabled. All good.
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Post by yyy on May 11, 2021 9:05:13 GMT
Do you know what vaccines you could mix, a different one for dose 2? Pfizer for instance. If I get that one on Wednesday, can I have any of the other types the next time in 6 weeks? The only thing they say is, you'll get what we have on that particular day, noone can say in advance. They're running a trial for mixing. As things stand the 2 jab vaccines have to be the same, but the booster jab that they think may be needed is when they're hoping to be able to mix Jabs. Trial, think, hoping & as things stand. All very reassuring isn't it 😂 nothing more than Guniea pigs
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