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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 23:10:08 GMT
So the Goverment don't want life to return to "normal" ?? Not yet no. Thanks for the update
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Post by mutters on Mar 8, 2021 23:27:49 GMT
Got to drag it out for as long as possible Why's that then? Control Got to show who is in charge - and it's not us riff raff
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 8, 2021 23:33:26 GMT
Control Got to show who is in charge - and it's not us riff raff You've lost me mate. What are they controlling? You genuinely think this is a Government control project?
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Post by foster on Mar 8, 2021 23:59:41 GMT
Control Got to show who is in charge - and it's not us riff raff You've lost me mate. What are they controlling? You genuinely think this is a Government control project? Just keep attention on whatever problem they can long enough to keep deflecting from other stuff and avoid answering questions. All those fuckers earning a fortune over the past years while brexit dragged on and on and now they'll hang onto covid for as long as possible. Then they'll no doubt find something else. Anything to avoid being held to account regarding important uk/local issues.
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Post by mutters on Mar 9, 2021 0:10:56 GMT
Control Got to show who is in charge - and it's not us riff raff You've lost me mate. What are they controlling? You genuinely think this is a Government control project? Have you not noticed for the past year, in general, if you are lucky enough, you can go to work, if not you either have the unenviable "choice" of furlough or redundancy. If you are lucky enough to work, then you won't be going to the match / pub / concert / meal / whatever you enjoy (delete as appropriate) as you should stay at home, and not have any fun / enjoyment and god forbid you want to meet a friend - that would be outrageous If not then no doubt you are worried about how to pay your rent / mortgage / feed the family, but hey don't worry, everything is ok Messrs Johnson & Hancock said so, but at the same time raped the public purse, but don't worry about it
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Post by musik on Mar 9, 2021 0:12:58 GMT
TEGNELL WAS NOT OPTIMISTIC AT ALL
Today on Agenda late news on tv Anders Tegnell from FHM Sweden wasn't optimistic at all. According to their worst case scenario they think the 3rd wave will be more than twice as serious than any wave we've had so far.
Practically, it would mean 2 million mew Corona cases within this little country of ours, 25000 further dead prople and a quarter of a million new invalids or long covid cases.
The effect of any vaccines won't come until July at best, he said.
All depends on how careful we'll be in March to June.
I will stay indoors 98.5 % of the time the rest of this winter and the whole spring.
😷
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 9, 2021 6:37:04 GMT
You've lost me mate. What are they controlling? You genuinely think this is a Government control project? Have you not noticed for the past year, in general, if you are lucky enough, you can go to work, if not you either have the unenviable "choice" of furlough or redundancy. If you are lucky enough to work, then you won't be going to the match / pub / concert / meal / whatever you enjoy (delete as appropriate) as you should stay at home, and not have any fun / enjoyment and god forbid you want to meet a friend - that would be outrageous If not then no doubt you are worried about how to pay your rent / mortgage / feed the family, but hey don't worry, everything is ok Messrs Johnson & Hancock said so, but at the same time raped the public purse, but don't worry about it Spot on Mutters...it’s all about control...always has been. When/if we get any truthful answers about how this shit show has been handled it will be the end of Boris and his gang. Too many people have been making a fortune out of CV19 and they have no intention of it stopping for a while yet. I’m amazed we, the public, have accepted all this shit for so long...I honestly thought there would be more dissent against it.
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 9, 2021 6:40:05 GMT
You've lost me mate. What are they controlling? You genuinely think this is a Government control project? Just keep attention on whatever problem they can long enough to keep deflecting from other stuff and avoid answering questions. All those fuckers earning a fortune over the past years while brexit dragged on and on and now they'll hang onto covid for as long as possible. Then they'll no doubt find something else. Anything to avoid being held to account regarding important uk/local issues. You are spot on there Foster...there are some big questions to be answered in the future and they will put that off for as long as possible. Then they will resign or walk away and leave all the shit for someone else to sort out...as you can tell I have no faith in Politicians or politics of any persuasion.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 9, 2021 7:31:56 GMT
You've lost me mate. What are they controlling? You genuinely think this is a Government control project? Just keep attention on whatever problem they can long enough to keep deflecting from other stuff and avoid answering questions. All those fuckers earning a fortune over the past years while brexit dragged on and on and now they'll hang onto covid for as long as possible. Then they'll no doubt find something else. Anything to avoid being held to account regarding important uk/local issues. I think this Government is an absolute joke and handled the crisis (aside from the furlough scheme and vaccine rollout) abysmally.. But to suggest that they want this situation to continue as long as possible is in my opinion nonsense.
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 9, 2021 8:11:31 GMT
Have you not noticed for the past year, in general, if you are lucky enough, you can go to work, if not you either have the unenviable "choice" of furlough or redundancy. If you are lucky enough to work, then you won't be going to the match / pub / concert / meal / whatever you enjoy (delete as appropriate) as you should stay at home, and not have any fun / enjoyment and god forbid you want to meet a friend - that would be outrageous If not then no doubt you are worried about how to pay your rent / mortgage / feed the family, but hey don't worry, everything is ok Messrs Johnson & Hancock said so, but at the same time raped the public purse, but don't worry about it Spot on Mutters...it’s all about control...always has been. When/if we get any truthful answers about how this shit show has been handled it will be the end of Boris and his gang. Too many people have been making a fortune out of CV19 and they have no intention of it stopping for a while yet. I’m amazed we, the public, have accepted all this shit for so long...I honestly thought there would be more dissent against it. Who would have handled it differently then , a pandemic seen like never before , Labour , Liberal Democrat’s , the Green Party
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Post by Northy on Mar 9, 2021 8:11:36 GMT
Just keep attention on whatever problem they can long enough to keep deflecting from other stuff and avoid answering questions. All those fuckers earning a fortune over the past years while brexit dragged on and on and now they'll hang onto covid for as long as possible. Then they'll no doubt find something else. Anything to avoid being held to account regarding important uk/local issues. I think this Government is an absolute joke and handled the crisis (aside from the furlough scheme and vaccine rollout) abysmally.. But to suggest that they want this situation to continue as long as possible is in my opinion nonsense. Exactly, why would they put themselves through more crap, have to work much longer and harder, the country going deeper and deeper into debt, watch some of their investments fail and pensions shrink, just no logic in it.
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 9, 2021 8:37:58 GMT
Spot on Mutters...it’s all about control...always has been. When/if we get any truthful answers about how this shit show has been handled it will be the end of Boris and his gang. Too many people have been making a fortune out of CV19 and they have no intention of it stopping for a while yet. I’m amazed we, the public, have accepted all this shit for so long...I honestly thought there would be more dissent against it. Who would have handled it differently then , a pandemic seen like never before , Labour , Liberal Democrat’s , the Green Party A Politician who is a natural leader could have handled it better but unfortunately we had Boris who just dithered and dithered. Boris is well known for putting off making big decisions...if he has a choice of three solutions to a problem he dithers until there is only one left. Lockdown too late...flights were allowed into the country without any checks...schools in for one day then closed.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 9, 2021 8:42:46 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 9, 2021 8:55:23 GMT
Who would have handled it differently then , a pandemic seen like never before , Labour , Liberal Democrat’s , the Green Party A Politician who is a natural leader could have handled it better but unfortunately we had Boris who just dithered and dithered. Boris is well known for putting off making big decisions...if he has a choice of three solutions to a problem he dithers until there is only one left. Lockdown too late...flights were allowed into the country without any checks...schools in for one day then closed. I’m afraid a politician who is a natural leader doesn’t exist
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Post by Northy on Mar 9, 2021 9:07:07 GMT
Over 55's round here were struggling to get appointments until early April so I think it's a bit off with the hope of end of March atm, my sister in the North east over 60's hasn't had hers yet, she's towards the end of March
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Post by Northy on Mar 9, 2021 9:11:13 GMT
There's risk in all walks of life. Wouldn't go hurtling down a motorway at 80mph otherwise. Can't see any scientific basis now for keeping the country in effective lockdown until the end of April. Every week in lockdown that goes by is detrimental to not only the country as a whole but the businesses and individuals within it. The devastating long-term impact of lockdown has not been stressed anywhere near enough throughout this pandemic. "Data not dates" is Boris's stance on lifting restrictions and he has said again today he wont speed things up, so it's an effective lockdown until May really until things really start to feel normal. But if they are driven by data and that data is no longer justifying keeping restrictions for that long surely the government have to act quicker. I'm all for going steady, but then there is snails pace if numbers remain so low or even lower It takes 3 weeks for the data to come through from each stage though doesn't it ?
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Post by franklin on Mar 9, 2021 9:13:53 GMT
Over 55's round here were struggling to get appointments until early April so I think it's a bit off with the hope of end of March atm, my sister in the North east over 60's hasn't had hers yet, she's towards the end of March I've just had a date for me first Jab next Friday when my lad had his the bookings were the next day etc my first available date was the 19th.
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Post by rorymscfc on Mar 9, 2021 9:18:50 GMT
"Data not dates" is Boris's stance on lifting restrictions and he has said again today he wont speed things up, so it's an effective lockdown until May really until things really start to feel normal. But if they are driven by data and that data is no longer justifying keeping restrictions for that long surely the government have to act quicker. I'm all for going steady, but then there is snails pace if numbers remain so low or even lower It takes 3 weeks for the data to come through from each stage though doesn't it ? I think the theory is that from time of infection it’s up to a week before you get Ill and another week or so before you are Ill enough to be hospitalised. A week or so for the data feeds through and another week to analyse it. The govt will then give one weeks notice of changes.
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Post by Northy on Mar 9, 2021 9:21:51 GMT
Over 55's round here were struggling to get appointments until early April so I think it's a bit off with the hope of end of March atm, my sister in the North east over 60's hasn't had hers yet, she's towards the end of March I've just had a date for me first Jab next Friday when my lad had his the bookings were the next day etc my first available date was the 19th. I booked mine last Sunday and got the 21st March, I've got to travel to Alderley Edge for it. The nearest at Winsford or Warrington were end of March and into early April, I suppose it's the size of facilities and amount of available in different areas. Massive achievement so far to get the numbers they have, can't complain, but I think all over 50's in the next 3 weeks may be pushing it, hope I'm wrong and they can get the vaccine and staff to do it, especially as the 2nd doses have really got to be ramped up. MiL had her first on January 9th, and not heard about the 2nd yet and the 12 weeks is up on Easter weekend.
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Post by Northy on Mar 9, 2021 9:23:03 GMT
It takes 3 weeks for the data to come through from each stage though doesn't it ? I think the theory is that from time of infection it’s up to a week before you get Ill and another week or so before you are Ill enough to be hospitalised. A week or so for the data feeds through and another week to analyse it. The govt will then give one weeks notice of changes. But not everyone is going to get ill on day 1, it'll take a few days to get circulating and spreading and test results back.
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Post by franklin on Mar 9, 2021 9:30:01 GMT
I've just had a date for me first Jab next Friday when my lad had his the bookings were the next day etc my first available date was the 19th. I booked mine last Sunday and got the 21st March, I've got to travel to Alderley Edge for it. The nearest at Winsford or Warrington were end of March and into early April, I suppose it's the size of facilities and amount of available in different areas. Massive achievement so far to get the numbers they have, can't complain, but I think all over 50's in the next 3 weeks may be pushing it, hope I'm wrong and they can get the vaccine and staff to do it, especially as the 2nd doses have really got to be ramped up. MiL had her first on January 9th, and not heard about the 2nd yet and the 12 weeks is up on Easter weekend. I've been given a date for my second at the same time D Day for mine did you get a date for the second?
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 9, 2021 9:38:57 GMT
I booked mine last Sunday and got the 21st March, I've got to travel to Alderley Edge for it. The nearest at Winsford or Warrington were end of March and into early April, I suppose it's the size of facilities and amount of available in different areas. Massive achievement so far to get the numbers they have, can't complain, but I think all over 50's in the next 3 weeks may be pushing it, hope I'm wrong and they can get the vaccine and staff to do it, especially as the 2nd doses have really got to be ramped up. MiL had her first on January 9th, and not heard about the 2nd yet and the 12 weeks is up on Easter weekend. I've been given a date for my second at the same time D Day for mine did you get a date for the second? Booked my first jab on line on Sunday. It’s for a week today in Tunstall...it’s the nearest to ‘Castle I could get...and my second was booked at the same time for June 2nd...Turkey here I come (hopefully) !
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Post by franklin on Mar 9, 2021 9:43:04 GMT
I've been given a date for my second at the same time D Day for mine did you get a date for the second? Booked my first jab on line on Sunday. It’s for a week today in Tunstall...it’s the nearest to ‘Castle I could get...and my second was booked at the same time for June 2nd...Turkey here I come (hopefully) ! Mines in Tunstall at the Daniel Platt business Park although I do live in walking distance so easy for me.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 9, 2021 9:45:30 GMT
I booked mine last Sunday and got the 21st March, I've got to travel to Alderley Edge for it. The nearest at Winsford or Warrington were end of March and into early April, I suppose it's the size of facilities and amount of available in different areas. Massive achievement so far to get the numbers they have, can't complain, but I think all over 50's in the next 3 weeks may be pushing it, hope I'm wrong and they can get the vaccine and staff to do it, especially as the 2nd doses have really got to be ramped up. MiL had her first on January 9th, and not heard about the 2nd yet and the 12 weeks is up on Easter weekend. I've been given a date for my second at the same time D Day for mine did you get a date for the second? You automatically get a 2nd date when you book your first jab
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 9, 2021 10:15:16 GMT
I've been given a date for my second at the same time D Day for mine did you get a date for the second? You automatically get a 2nd date when you book your first jab When I had mine about a month ago I was told they will contact me when to have my second jab
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 9, 2021 10:18:18 GMT
I've been given a date for my second at the same time D Day for mine did you get a date for the second? You automatically get a 2nd date when you book your first jab I was given the option of booking my second jab date when I booked on line yes mate....all very easy.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 9, 2021 10:18:48 GMT
It takes 3 weeks for the data to come through from each stage though doesn't it ? I think the theory is that from time of infection it’s up to a week before you get Ill and another week or so before you are Ill enough to be hospitalised. A week or so for the data feeds through and another week to analyse it. The govt will then give one weeks notice of changes. Personally I think the timetable is partly designed to avoid free for all’s over Easter and may bank holiday and Whitsun
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 9, 2021 10:21:31 GMT
Booked my first jab on line on Sunday. It’s for a week today in Tunstall...it’s the nearest to ‘Castle I could get...and my second was booked at the same time for June 2nd...Turkey here I come (hopefully) ! Mines in Tunstall at the Daniel Platt business Park although I do live in walking distance so easy for me. Daniel Platt Estate for me too mate. My daughter in law to be ( a nurse ) had hers there a few weeks ago and she said it went like clockwork.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Mar 9, 2021 10:22:18 GMT
I see Whitty and Vallance are at it again, with their doom and gloom being wheeled out to the Commons Science and Technology Select Committee.
"Prof Chris Whitty, England's chief medical officer, tells the Commons Science and Technology Select Committee that all the modelling shows there will be another surge of the virus despite the vaccination programme.
He says while the vaccines are very good, they are not 100% effective meaning that some people will remain vulnerable and could still die.
"What we are going to see is as things open up, what all the modelling suggests is that at some point we will get another surge of the virus and whether that happens, we hope it doesn't happen soon, it might for example happen later in the summer as we open up or if there is a seasonal effect it might happen later in autumn or in the winter, there will be a further surge and that will find the people who have either not been vaccinated or where the vaccine has not worked and some of them will end up in hospital and some of them will sadly go on to die," he says. "That is the reality of where we are."
"Things can go bad very quickly," England's chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty warns the Commons Science and Technology Select Committee.
"A lot of people may think it's all over but I would encourage them to look at continental Europe right now," he says.
Whitty says it is "easy to forget how quickly things can turn bad if you don't keep an eye on them".
He points out that while the death figures are going in the right direction, this time last year there had only been two UK coronavirus deaths, "and by 23 March we were in lockdown".
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 9, 2021 10:24:50 GMT
Have you not noticed for the past year, in general, if you are lucky enough, you can go to work, if not you either have the unenviable "choice" of furlough or redundancy. If you are lucky enough to work, then you won't be going to the match / pub / concert / meal / whatever you enjoy (delete as appropriate) as you should stay at home, and not have any fun / enjoyment and god forbid you want to meet a friend - that would be outrageous If not then no doubt you are worried about how to pay your rent / mortgage / feed the family, but hey don't worry, everything is ok Messrs Johnson & Hancock said so, but at the same time raped the public purse, but don't worry about it Spot on Mutters...it’s all about control...always has been. When/if we get any truthful answers about how this shit show has been handled it will be the end of Boris and his gang. Too many people have been making a fortune out of CV19 and they have no intention of it stopping for a while yet. I’m amazed we, the public, have accepted all this shit for so long...I honestly thought there would be more dissent against it. Keep taking the pills.
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