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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 8, 2021 16:42:01 GMT
Cases going back up (and the subsequent admissions and deaths) at the rate we saw in autumn and winter. Not another Mystic Meg on here😄None of us know whether cases will go up again🤔I think we can safely say deaths will decrease but beyond that?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 8, 2021 16:42:54 GMT
Cases going back up (and the subsequent admissions and deaths) at the rate we saw in autumn and winter. Very very unlikely. But no point take any risks now however small....
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Post by Davef on Mar 8, 2021 16:46:05 GMT
Cases going back up (and the subsequent admissions and deaths) at the rate we saw in autumn and winter. Not another Mystic Meg on here😄None of us know whether cases will go up again🤔I think we can safely say deaths will decrease but beyond that? What, you reckon we're going to get to a point any time soon when were reporting 50, 60 or 70,000 cases?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 8, 2021 16:47:14 GMT
Not another Mystic Meg on here😄None of us know whether cases will go up again🤔I think we can safely say deaths will decrease but beyond that? What, you reckon we're going to get to a point any time soon when were reporting 50, 60 or 70,000 cases? Of course I don’t but I do see a rise again in a few weeks time yes.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 8, 2021 16:49:13 GMT
Seems like we're being sensible for once and it's an approach I'm completely onboard with tbh. Implement a phase, see how it goes, vaccinate more, judge and then hopefully implement the next stage after.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Mar 8, 2021 16:52:20 GMT
Cases will inevitably rise again slightly, but I'm almost certain that hospitalisations and deaths won't. As we've established, these should now be the key measure, as the most vulnerable groups now have good protection from the first dose, which will only get stronger and then the second dose will complete the job.
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Post by chad on Mar 8, 2021 16:56:58 GMT
What, you reckon we're going to get to a point any time soon when were reporting 50, 60 or 70,000 cases? Of course I don’t but I do see a rise again in a few weeks time yes. Cases can rise all they like. Its going to be hospitalisation and deaths that matter from now on
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Post by Davef on Mar 8, 2021 17:02:34 GMT
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Post by Northy on Mar 8, 2021 17:35:28 GMT
Of course I don’t but I do see a rise again in a few weeks time yes. Cases can rise all they like. Its going to be hospitalisation and deaths that matter from now on Trouble is with rising cases is the V word ... variants and they can mutate, that's the last thing we want so let's be sensible and keep cases as low as possible until it can't get a hold again, we saw last summer how low it went and that was without a vaccine.
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Post by chigstoke on Mar 8, 2021 18:03:54 GMT
Cases can rise all they like. Its going to be hospitalisation and deaths that matter from now on Trouble is with rising cases is the V word ... variants and they can mutate, that's the last thing we want so let's be sensible and keep cases as low as possible until it can't get a hold again, we saw last summer how low it went and that was without a vaccine. Speaking of variants, good thread here
Sounds more and more like E484k is what every variant is attempting to latch on to, potentially being the worst it will get. Which should make booster jabs pretty easy business (in theory)
The research is being done by a McLellan, co-partners of Moderna.
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Post by Northy on Mar 8, 2021 18:52:16 GMT
Trouble is with rising cases is the V word ... variants and they can mutate, that's the last thing we want so let's be sensible and keep cases as low as possible until it can't get a hold again, we saw last summer how low it went and that was without a vaccine. Speaking of variants, good thread here Sounds more and more like E484k is what every variant is attempting to latch on to, potentially being the worst it will get. Which should make booster jabs pretty easy business (in theory) The research is being done by a McLellan, co-partners of Moderna.
Good news if the science is accurate. We've only got to look at the Isle of Man at the moment and how cases can shoot up, suddenly went from fully open pubs to 1 man who worked on the ferries being tested positive and now it's over 350 in a few days, which is half of their overall total in a year, and it looks like the schools may be a big spreader www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/another-56-covid-19-cases-identified/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-56309093
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Post by superjw on Mar 8, 2021 19:17:19 GMT
Great day today seeing the kids go back into school, day one and it's done my eldest the world of good - the difference in her is clear to see along with all the other kids judging by their excitement.
First and most important step out of this mess.
Now let's crack on
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 8, 2021 19:25:20 GMT
Wow, amazing considering where we have come from, hope and pray this continues. Cases will no doubt rise with easing of restrictions but as long as vaccines do the trick all is good. Can the government realistically continue to dig their feet in the ground with not bringing forward easing of restrictions if these numbers continue or get even better come middle of April? I imagine pressure will start to grow very quickly. It's a bit of a downer to think that we won't see full normality until end of June with numbers like this at the start of march. Its great news but still the Sunday number reported on a Monday, so we'll likely see a few more deaths later in the week. I guess the real point is we have vaccinated nearly all the groups who were doing the dying and many who were clogging up hospital beds. There is light at the end of the tunnel. It's more the continued significant reductions in deaths week on week that's most encouraging for me, 38% down on last week and that's been consistent for weeks now. Cases aren't as important anymore, especially with schools opening you'd expect the decrease there to plateau. Fantastic news, by this token we will be below 100 daily deaths on 7-day rolling average in a week or so.
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Post by chigstoke on Mar 8, 2021 19:27:29 GMT
Great day today seeing the kids go back into school, day one and it's done my eldest the world of good - the difference in her is clear to see along with all the other kids judging by their excitement. First and most important step out of this mess. Now let's crack on I drove through Newcastle town centre this morning on the way to work and you could see the jubilation in the NULC students.
It's doing them all the world of good to see their friends again. Now hopefully, the absolute last time we'll be in this situation again.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 8, 2021 19:39:25 GMT
Cases going back up (and the subsequent admissions and deaths) at the rate we saw in autumn and winter. Very very unlikely. But no point take any risks now however small.... There's risk in all walks of life. Wouldn't go hurtling down a motorway at 80mph otherwise. Can't see any scientific basis now for keeping the country in effective lockdown until the end of April. Every week in lockdown that goes by is detrimental to not only the country as a whole but the businesses and individuals within it. The devastating long-term impact of lockdown has not been stressed anywhere near enough throughout this pandemic.
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Post by werrington on Mar 8, 2021 20:34:10 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 8, 2021 20:50:10 GMT
Trouble is with rising cases is the V word ... variants and they can mutate, that's the last thing we want so let's be sensible and keep cases as low as possible until it can't get a hold again, we saw last summer how low it went and that was without a vaccine. Speaking of variants, good thread here Sounds more and more like E484k is what every variant is attempting to latch on to, potentially being the worst it will get. Which should make booster jabs pretty easy business (in theory) The research is being done by a McLellan, co-partners of Moderna.
It’s what ESOF on here said a month or two ago.
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Post by superjw on Mar 8, 2021 20:57:41 GMT
Very very unlikely. But no point take any risks now however small.... There's risk in all walks of life. Wouldn't go hurtling down a motorway at 80mph otherwise. Can't see any scientific basis now for keeping the country in effective lockdown until the end of April. Every week in lockdown that goes by is detrimental to not only the country as a whole but the businesses and individuals within it. The devastating long-term impact of lockdown has not been stressed anywhere near enough throughout this pandemic. "Data not dates" is Boris's stance on lifting restrictions and he has said again today he wont speed things up, so it's an effective lockdown until May really until things really start to feel normal. But if they are driven by data and that data is no longer justifying keeping restrictions for that long surely the government have to act quicker. I'm all for going steady, but then there is snails pace if numbers remain so low or even lower
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Post by mutters on Mar 8, 2021 21:04:29 GMT
There's risk in all walks of life. Wouldn't go hurtling down a motorway at 80mph otherwise. Can't see any scientific basis now for keeping the country in effective lockdown until the end of April. Every week in lockdown that goes by is detrimental to not only the country as a whole but the businesses and individuals within it. The devastating long-term impact of lockdown has not been stressed anywhere near enough throughout this pandemic. "Data not dates" is Boris's stance on lifting restrictions and he has said again today he wont speed things up, so it's an effective lockdown until May really until things really start to feel normal. But if they are driven by data and that data is no longer justifying keeping restrictions for that long surely the government have to act quicker. I'm all for going steady, but then there is snails pace if numbers remain so low or even lower Got to drag it out for as long as possible
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 8, 2021 21:45:40 GMT
"Data not dates" is Boris's stance on lifting restrictions and he has said again today he wont speed things up, so it's an effective lockdown until May really until things really start to feel normal. But if they are driven by data and that data is no longer justifying keeping restrictions for that long surely the government have to act quicker. I'm all for going steady, but then there is snails pace if numbers remain so low or even lower Got to drag it out for as long as possible Why's that then?
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 8, 2021 22:08:08 GMT
Got to drag it out for as long as possible Why's that then? Because the the Government are terrified of life returning to normal as then people will start to look at how this shit show has been handled and ask awkward questions. Boris and co will have to justify all the contracts handed out to their mates and explain how we have ended up with highest death toll in Europe and fifth highest in the world.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 8, 2021 22:15:26 GMT
Because the the Government are terrified of life returning to normal as then people will start to look at how this shit show has been handled and ask awkward questions. Boris and co will have to justify all the contracts handed out to their mates and explain how we have ended up with highest death toll in Europe and fifth highest in the world. So the Goverment don't want life to return to "normal" ??
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 8, 2021 22:22:04 GMT
Because the the Government are terrified of life returning to normal as then people will start to look at how this shit show has been handled and ask awkward questions. Boris and co will have to justify all the contracts handed out to their mates and explain how we have ended up with highest death toll in Europe and fifth highest in the world. So the Goverment don't want life to return to "normal" ?? Not yet no.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 8, 2021 22:24:07 GMT
So the Goverment don't want life to return to "normal" ?? Not yet no. When do they want life to return to normal.?
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 8, 2021 22:32:20 GMT
When do they want life to return to normal.? 14th October 2026.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 8, 2021 22:39:54 GMT
When do they want life to return to normal.? 14th October 2026. Is there some significance in that date?
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 8, 2021 22:42:15 GMT
Is there some significance in that date? No not really...it’s just a date.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 8, 2021 22:47:01 GMT
Is there some significance in that date? No not really...it’s just a date. I think we will have a manned space station in 2095.
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Post by westlandstokie on Mar 8, 2021 22:51:03 GMT
No not really...it’s just a date. I think we will have a manned space station in 2095. That would be really useful.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 8, 2021 23:04:50 GMT
I think we will have a manned space station in 2095. That would be really useful. Yes. Hope they will have Sky football plus up there, watching betstoke365 FC winning their thirteenth European super league championship. Live from the Trentham Superdrome.
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