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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:31:13 GMT
Is 150,000 posts too much of a target?  No idea how many I’m on now, I can’t see it. Feels like a lot more |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2020 19:31:20 GMT
Are garden centres and post offices open? If so why? I'd like to go to both but that would be irresponsible wouldn't it....so therefore won't....I'd like the Oatcake opinion on that.....but if it is irresponsible....why are they open? Post offices provide a fair amount of banking and financial services and the local one I use is also a food store. They are important to a lot of elderly people since the banks have closed down en masse. What gets me though Cedric , there's no simple answer...some people agree with total isolation, want the government to tell us what to do, criticise the government for not locking everything down , but are justifying risk taking in some circumstances. We are either isolating or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 19:31:26 GMT
The intensity of this situation is building. You can even sense it happening on this MB. Our resident trolls continue "business as usual", but even ignoring them, the size of this mess is finally striking home for a few more each day. I mean no disrespect to the newcomers that have finally seen the size of the mess that we are in - the important thing is that you have eventually seen it.
Condescending post? Well yes it is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2020 19:32:46 GMT
No idea how many I’m on now, I can’t see it. Feels like a lot more Yeah people don’t like the truth sadly. |
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Post by neworleanstokie on Mar 22, 2020 19:34:01 GMT
This thread is surreal.. Non-essential workers are going in tomorrow??? Family get togethers for Mothers Day?? WTF ?? Everyone one of those putting my family more at risk.
Some of you long time posters will remember when I went through Katrina in 2005.. I never thought I would go through something like that again but here it is and its wayyyyy worse.. its like I can see the flood that will KILL 1,000s headed to my home town and there is nothing I can do about it.
A huge thank you to those who self isolating and the brave people on the front line - heroes in our lifetime.
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:34:30 GMT
The intensity of this situation is building. You can even sense it happening on this MB. Our resident trolls continue "business as usual", but even ignoring them, the size of this mess is finally striking home for a few more each day. I mean no disrespect to the newcomers that have finally seen the size of the mess that we are in - the important thing is that you have eventually seen it. Condescending post? Well yes it is. No clammy. Our resident prime minister and bosses continue business as usual. You’ve just got no answer for it. |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:34:48 GMT
Yeah people don’t like the truth sadly. They can’t handle it. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2020 19:34:58 GMT
So Bayern , it's your view that we should not be visiting them.....irrespective of government advice( I'm just trying to get clarification) Until they are forced to close then you choose to go.. against the advice of most people. As long as you're aware that going could lead to you be infected or worse yet, passing it onto someone else and ultimately being responsible for their death. Up to you if you want to take the risk and if that's something you potentially want on your conscience. Exactly. So whilst it's an individual decision presumably the most responsible of us will abide by the rules whilst others won't. Either we are isolating or not. And if we include the crowds at shops , in reality we are not isolating. Should ALL shopping be online? |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:35:46 GMT
This thread is surreal.. Non-essential workers are going in tomorrow??? Family get togethers for Mothers Day?? WTF ?? Everyone one of those putting my family more at risk. Some of you long time posters will remember when I went through Katrina in 2005.. I never thought I would go through something like that again but here it is and its wayyyyy worse.. its like I can see the flood that will KILL 1,000s headed to my home town and there is nothing I can do about it. A huge thank you to those who self isolating and the brave people on the front line - heroes in our lifetime. What about the brave people that won’t get paid if they don’t go to work tomorrow, worried about their families starving? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2020 19:36:28 GMT
This thread is surreal.. Non-essential workers are going in tomorrow??? Family get togethers for Mothers Day?? WTF ?? Everyone one of those putting my family more at risk. Some of you long time posters will remember when I went through Katrina in 2005.. I never thought I would go through something like that again but here it is and its wayyyyy worse.. its like I can see the flood that will KILL 1,000s headed to my home town and there is nothing I can do about it. A huge thank you to those who self isolating and the brave people on the front line - heroes in our lifetime. That’s the problem though. People still have to go to work or be sacked. That’s why this is political. I’m lucky I can work from home but even that was delayed a week too late for my liking but I was told I had to go in, no excuses. The government have been a shambles. |
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Post by felonious on Mar 22, 2020 19:36:31 GMT
Post offices provide a fair amount of banking and financial services and the local one I use is also a food store. They are important to a lot of elderly people since the banks have closed down en masse. What gets me though Cedric , there's no simple answer...some people agree with total isolation, want the government to tell us what to do, criticise the government for not locking everything down , but are justifying risk taking in some circumstances. We are either isolating or not. The only solution is probably going to be total lock down Tarquin with the army on the streets but the moaners will still moan after all it's the inalienable right of every man....and woman |
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Post by jukeboxjury on Mar 22, 2020 19:37:22 GMT
Keep safe guys
I am on day 8 of a 21 day lock in.
Here in Spain we have troops on the streets
If we have a passenger in the car we face a 600 euro fine.
Its real lads so be aware of your responsibility.
Love to all
UTMP
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Post by felonious on Mar 22, 2020 19:37:32 GMT
Yeah people don’t like the truth sadly. Truth or opinion or do you really believe everything you say is correct? |
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Post by bangorstokie on Mar 22, 2020 19:37:49 GMT
It's not so much the closing down of businesses that is the problem, so long as every conceivable precaution is taken to stop the spread of the virus, it's these fucking idiots who have descended on Snowdon this weekend, in their fucking thousands, putting the health and lives of the local population at risk. Being part of a managerial team working for Tesco in the area, I put myself at risk everyday I go to work. It's been absolute bedlam this past few weeks. I'm not going to go on about panic buying,cos that topics been done to death. It's just the sheer fucking ignorance and selfishNess of people, who think they have the right to do whatever they want, even though their mindless fucking actions put the health and wellbeing of the whole country at risk. Time for Boris to grow a pair and put ban on all recreational travel, including holidays, throughout the whole country.
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:38:13 GMT
Until they are forced to close then you choose to go.. against the advice of most people. As long as you're aware that going could lead to you be infected or worse yet, passing it onto someone else and ultimately being responsible for their death. Up to you if you want to take the risk and if that's something you potentially want on your conscience. Exactly. So whilst it's an individual decision presumably the most responsible of us will abide by the rules whilst others won't. Either we are isolating or not. And if we include the crowds at shops , in reality we are not isolating. Should ALL shopping be online? What about the guy coughing on his way up your drive, all over your milk and cheese? Your self isolation just got blown to fuck. |
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Post by deadwait on Mar 22, 2020 19:38:59 GMT
Post offices provide an essential service don’t they? Garden centres are a bit dull 😁 Not necessarily, Are post offices really needed. Why?....handling over parcels...although I'm trying to get a present to a ( Muslim) friend's unusual wedding. Gardening can be very therapeutic and it is something that you can do while confined....growing veg may be a good thing...Dig for victory.🙃 I believe many old people still draw their pension from the Post Office. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 22, 2020 19:39:02 GMT
General question (and no not for a friend!)
If people have to isolate and are advised to use friends/family to get shopping in, how are they paying for the stuff?
We all have a few quid in the house but when that runs out? Give a friend your card? Let them pay then do a bank transfer?
How does this work in practice?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 22, 2020 19:39:56 GMT
Yeah people don’t like the truth sadly. Truth or opinion or do you really believe everything you say is correct? Why wouldn’t you believe it to be correct if you’re saying it? If I don’t think something is correct I don’t say it. |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:42:23 GMT
What if you opened a pub where everyone was on FaceTime? I might seek investment for that.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2020 19:44:26 GMT
Exactly. So whilst it's an individual decision presumably the most responsible of us will abide by the rules whilst others won't. Either we are isolating or not. And if we include the crowds at shops , in reality we are not isolating. Should ALL shopping be online? What about the guy coughing on his way up your drive, all over your milk and cheese? Your self isolation just got blown to fuck. Exactly, that's my point. Is self isolation possible...for those who want to follow the "rules"...let alone those who don't |
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Post by musik on Mar 22, 2020 19:44:26 GMT
There are always people who have a problem with the responsibility bit.
Some can be infected and aware of it, and still say "they have a choice, there is always a choice, they shouldn't be in the same shop, the same bus or in the same elevator - now when I'm a bit dizzy and sneeze right at them. It's their own fault!"
I've actually heard this.
Several times.
Unfortunately.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 22, 2020 19:45:00 GMT
What if you opened a pub where everyone was on FaceTime? I might seek investment for that. You obviously hate money. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 22, 2020 19:45:25 GMT
www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/boris-johnson-coronavirus-lockdown-cabinet-mutinyBoris Johnson faces a "full scale mutiny" from his cabinet and senior aides if he does not enforce a lockdown of London including restrictions on non-essential travel. Cabinet ministers and aides want the prime minister to bring in French or Italian-style lockdown measures in the next 24 hours — requiring people to demonstrate that they have a good reason to leave their homes — after seeing data that showed the UK is on a trajectory towards as many deaths per day as Italy is currently experiencing.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2020 19:45:39 GMT
Not necessarily, Are post offices really needed. Why?....handling over parcels...although I'm trying to get a present to a ( Muslim) friend's unusual wedding. Gardening can be very therapeutic and it is something that you can do while confined....growing veg may be a good thing...Dig for victory.🙃 I believe many old people still draw their pension from the Post Office. Exactly, that's my point. Is self isolation possible...for those who want to follow the "rules"...let alone those who don't ....so all old age pensioners queue up together to get their pension. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 22, 2020 19:45:40 GMT
Yeah people don’t like the truth sadly. Truth or opinion or do you really believe everything you say is correct? Quit now pal for your mental sanity. |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:46:12 GMT
What about the guy coughing on his way up your drive, all over your milk and cheese? Your self isolation just got blown to fuck. Exactly, that's my point. Is self isolation possible...for those who want to follow the "rules"...let alone those who don't No you’ll still have to come in to human contact even if it’s passive. |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:47:15 GMT
What if you opened a pub where everyone was on FaceTime? I might seek investment for that. You obviously hate money. Chaturpub ipub Facepub Wheels in motion |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 22, 2020 19:47:48 GMT
Exactly. So whilst it's an individual decision presumably the most responsible of us will abide by the rules whilst others won't. Either we are isolating or not. And if we include the crowds at shops , in reality we are not isolating. Should ALL shopping be online? What about the guy coughing on his way up your drive, all over your milk and cheese? Your self isolation just got blown to fuck. We've been at home since Monday and everything we've had delivered, has been left on the step for a while, before being wiped down with bleach, whilst wearing rubber gloves. |
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Post by musik on Mar 22, 2020 19:49:06 GMT
So Bayern , it's your view that we should not be visiting them.....irrespective of government advice( I'm just trying to get clarification) I’m not planning on leaving the house for a couple of weeks now..... You're doing the right thing. |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 19:49:55 GMT
What about the guy coughing on his way up your drive, all over your milk and cheese? Your self isolation just got blown to fuck. We've been at home since Monday and everything we've had delivered, has been left on the step for a while, before being wiped down with bleach, whilst wearing rubber gloves. That’s fine but people still have to go to work to logistically get that stuff to you. Lockdown isn’t an option for most. |
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