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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 5, 2021 16:33:33 GMT
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Post by musik on Mar 5, 2021 16:33:50 GMT
Our Prime Minister last week said every adult in Sweden will get their two vaccine injections before July the 1st, if they want to. Since we will begin our mass vaccination in May and most of the vaccine is the AZ vaccine and it should go 12 weeks between the two injections for maximum effect - I don't get it. In Janary FHM said maximum 3 weeks between injections. Maybe Löfven, the Prime Minister, isn't updated. When it first came out wasn't it 3-5 weeks in between doses, it was only our government and it's advisors decided they could stretch it to 12 weeks to ensure more people got the first dose Here they said 3 weeks (which I repeated in this thread to make sure you didn't fall for the 12 weeks propaganda, since I believe it was based on the latest true research results). But in the news - I think it was yesterday 🤔 or possibly the day before - I read that the latest research has showed for maximum AZ vaccine effect it's best to wait 12 weeks between doses. I don't know what to believe anymore. A bought, corrupt study? Money rules?
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Post by superjw on Mar 5, 2021 16:34:12 GMT
I wonder what the accepted proof of vaccine will be? Can't see an international vaccine passport being ready in time I imagine letter off the GP, that little card people get of the NHS is worth nothing. Yes I’d imagine it’ll something like that. It’ll be Saga specials then in this summer for most with the 2 jab policy I reckon nothing will stop unvaccinated people travelling, the countries who rely so much on tourism would cut off far too much of their custom doing that, especially from the other EU countries who are so far behind us with vaccines. Greece for example will allow negative test for unvaccinated people and children over a certain age. Some countries can afford to have less or no tourism for another year, others can't and will want to give everyone fair opportunity to go there. I'm happy to take a test before I go away for a week in June, I won't have had both doses by then and lucky to even get the first
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 5, 2021 16:35:28 GMT
Yes I’d imagine it’ll something like that. It’ll be Saga specials then in this summer for most with the 2 jab policy I reckon nothing will stop unvaccinated people travelling, the countries who rely so much on tourism would cut off far too much of their custom doing that, especially from the other EU countries who are so far behind us with vaccines. Greece for example will allow negative test for unvaccinated people and children over a certain age. Some countries can afford to have less or no tourism for another year, others can't and will want to give everyone fair opportunity to go there. I'm happy to take a test before I go away for a week in June, I won't have had both doses by then and lucky to even get the first I’ll be absolutely amazed if other countries allow that
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 5, 2021 16:36:41 GMT
I wonder what the accepted proof of vaccine will be? Can't see an international vaccine passport being ready in time I imagine letter off the GP, that little card people get of the NHS is worth nothing. Yes I’d imagine it’ll something like that. It’ll be Saga specials then in this summer for most with the 2 jab policy The tourism industry can't afford to do that. There'll be lateral flow tests thrown into the mix I'm sure once we're allowed to fly again.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 5, 2021 16:38:46 GMT
Yes I’d imagine it’ll something like that. It’ll be Saga specials then in this summer for most with the 2 jab policy The tourism industry can't afford to do that. There'll be lateral flow tests thrown into the mix I'm sure once we're allowed to fly again. Im not so sure but we’ll see
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Post by superjw on Mar 5, 2021 16:41:24 GMT
I reckon nothing will stop unvaccinated people travelling, the countries who rely so much on tourism would cut off far too much of their custom doing that, especially from the other EU countries who are so far behind us with vaccines. Greece for example will allow negative test for unvaccinated people and children over a certain age. Some countries can afford to have less or no tourism for another year, others can't and will want to give everyone fair opportunity to go there. I'm happy to take a test before I go away for a week in June, I won't have had both doses by then and lucky to even get the first I’ll be absolutely amazed if other countries allow that I think some will, Greece, Cyprus and Portugal have both indicated there will be testing options for non vaccinated people and children to enter. If a country opts for vaccine only that's their choice of course, but economy wise would be a disaster if they rely on tourism heavily. That's why the obvious tourism countries have already started talks with the UK to get plans going. Brits are the main visitors to Cyprus for example, they cannot afford to not allow most people and their kids to travel this summer.
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Post by zerps on Mar 5, 2021 17:26:26 GMT
It’s a summer tourism gold rush now for countries like Greece.
Gyros and mythos in Lindos bay this year would be fantastic.
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Post by adri2008 on Mar 5, 2021 17:41:39 GMT
The tourism industry can't afford to do that. There'll be lateral flow tests thrown into the mix I'm sure once we're allowed to fly again. Im not so sure but we’ll see With empty hospitals and the virus infection rate likely running at much lower levels than the (low) levels of last summer, I can't see how they are going to be able to justify not letting the tourists in really. They'll make it happen one way or another
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Post by superjw on Mar 5, 2021 18:09:04 GMT
It’s a summer tourism gold rush now for countries like Greece. Gyros and mythos in Lindos bay this year would be fantastic. Indeed, I have my trip booked to Greece from last year. A good old gyros by the beach would go down very well right now
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 5, 2021 18:10:22 GMT
This may have already been said on here but anyone yet to have the vaccine would do well to book a day off after it. I’m sweating like Gemma Collins in a pie shop and can’t put my glasses on because they steam up! I had the Pfizer jab last Saturday and didn`t feel anything during or after. I think your just unlucky. My wife said the same 😇
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 5, 2021 18:21:12 GMT
I wonder what the accepted proof of vaccine will be? Can't see an international vaccine passport being ready in time I imagine letter off the GP, that little card people get of the NHS is worth nothing. Yes I’d imagine it’ll something like that. It’ll be Saga specials then in this summer for most with the 2 jab policy Which is pretty poor in my view. The younger generation, those who are largely unaffected by Covid have sacrificed a hell of a lot already and now they potentially won't be able to go on holiday whilst all those they've suffered for can return their lives, relatively speaking, back to normal. Somehow it seems hugely unfair.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 5, 2021 18:36:37 GMT
Yes I’d imagine it’ll something like that. It’ll be Saga specials then in this summer for most with the 2 jab policy Which is pretty poor in my view. The younger generation, those who are largely unaffected by Covid have sacrificed a hell of a lot already and now they potentially won't be able to go on holiday whilst all those they've suffered for can return their lives, relatively speaking, back to normal. Somehow it seems hugely unfair. Yes it will seem unfair I agree but you could also argue they have their whole life ahead of them to make up for lost time
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 5, 2021 18:44:32 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 5, 2021 18:48:48 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 5, 2021 18:50:30 GMT
Great news that unless you’re an international manager
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Post by musik on Mar 5, 2021 19:03:52 GMT
The proposal regarding a vaccine passport or vaccine verification will be presented on March 17. On the 1st of June, as I understood it, people in Sweden must bring it to be able to: make an appointment to the dentist, a masseuse, a barber, allowed to do any kind of travel, locally, in the region, national or internationally be allowed to visit a concert, the cinema, theater, sport events
No comment regarding shops or restaurants.
🤔 Is it for real or is it Fool's Day already? Voluntary vaccination ... Ha!!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 5, 2021 19:05:45 GMT
Which is pretty poor in my view. The younger generation, those who are largely unaffected by Covid have sacrificed a hell of a lot already and now they potentially won't be able to go on holiday whilst all those they've suffered for can return their lives, relatively speaking, back to normal. Somehow it seems hugely unfair. Yes it will seem unfair I agree but you could also argue they have their whole life ahead of them to make up for lost time And you could argue that the old uns have had and enjoyed the best years of their lives.
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Post by hoffgreen on Mar 5, 2021 19:13:35 GMT
Late 50s, still breathing and living, no jab, don't want it. You that have had it hopefully will leave everyone else alone and we can all live happily ever after
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 5, 2021 20:53:11 GMT
Yes it will seem unfair I agree but you could also argue they have their whole life ahead of them to make up for lost time And you could argue that the old uns have had and enjoyed the best years of their lives. You could also argue that the old uns have worked their socks off for fifty years and looking forward to the best years of their lives before they pop their clogs or too knackered do anything.
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Post by Davef on Mar 5, 2021 21:16:33 GMT
992,812 tests reported.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 5, 2021 21:33:09 GMT
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Post by Northy on Mar 5, 2021 22:26:15 GMT
Yet still reporting the R number is 0.7 to 0.9, that's got to drop soon
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Post by yeswilko on Mar 5, 2021 23:07:57 GMT
Which is pretty poor in my view. The younger generation, those who are largely unaffected by Covid have sacrificed a hell of a lot already and now they potentially won't be able to go on holiday whilst all those they've suffered for can return their lives, relatively speaking, back to normal. Somehow it seems hugely unfair. Yes it will seem unfair I agree but you could also argue they have their whole life ahead of them to make up for lost time If the people everyone has sacrificed all this for start taking the piss I've got some ideas those guys
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 5, 2021 23:25:50 GMT
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Post by mutters on Mar 5, 2021 23:37:55 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 5, 2021 23:53:39 GMT
And you could argue that the old uns have had and enjoyed the best years of their lives. You could also argue that the old uns have worked their socks off for fifty years and looking forward to the best years of their lives before they pop their clogs or too knackered do anything. Yep. And you could argue that the younger ones won't have the chance to enjoy such things as job prospects have been decimated by the need to protect those susceptible to the virus. Younger people have had to make sacrifices for something that rarely impacts them. Now the older vaccinated mob should have to sacrifice for the good of the youngsters. Or better still, go every man for himself, open up everything and crack on. Survival of the fittest and all that! 👍
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 6, 2021 0:04:37 GMT
You could also argue that the old uns have worked their socks off for fifty years and looking forward to the best years of their lives before they pop their clogs or too knackered do anything. Yep. And you could argue that the younger ones won't have the chance to enjoy such things as job prospects have been decimated by the need to protect those susceptible to the virus. Younger people have had to make sacrifices for something that rarely impacts them. Now the older vaccinated mob should have to sacrifice for the good of the youngsters.
Or better still, go every man for himself, open up everything and crack on. Survival of the fittest and all that! 👍 What do you mean by this Dave, I'm not sure what it is that you're proposing, or am I being whooshed?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 6, 2021 0:50:57 GMT
Yep. And you could argue that the younger ones won't have the chance to enjoy such things as job prospects have been decimated by the need to protect those susceptible to the virus. Younger people have had to make sacrifices for something that rarely impacts them. Now the older vaccinated mob should have to sacrifice for the good of the youngsters.
Or better still, go every man for himself, open up everything and crack on. Survival of the fittest and all that! 👍 What do you mean by this Dave, I'm not sure what it is that you're proposing, or am I being whooshed? Was thinking the same.
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Post by musik on Mar 6, 2021 6:52:38 GMT
Latest 🇸🇪
In Stockholm, the water contains 700% more of Sars Cov-2 than the week before.
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