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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 28, 2021 17:06:26 GMT
Are you Laura Kuenssberg in disguise?
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 28, 2021 17:07:28 GMT
Have you ever really took time to read some of your posts Do you realise how remote New Zealand actually is And that all imported goods come via container or air freight and is un accompanied We simply could not shut our borders there are thousands of lorries a day entering the country Unlike New Zealand we didn’t have a couple of cases entering the country which could be pounced on We probably had hundreds all over the country at the same time at the start Are you saying we should of shut our borders to all accompanied freight And left hundreds of thousands of british citizens stranded abroad for moths until sufficient tests were available No, I’m saying had we adopted a much more stringent border policy from 3 Feb 2020 (the same date NZ implemented theirs), we would have had far less economic and health damage. We could have forced quarantine for all tourists/people repatriating for example. We could have massively increased testing for those delivering freight. I’m no expert on the practicalities of bringing freight to and from the country. But I am sure there are measures that could have been taken which would have led to better outcomes here. It’s not just us. US, Europe, pretty much everyone could learn a thing or two from the far east nations, Australia and NZ when it comes to dealing with covid and taking quick, decisive action. I cannot believe that is a controversial statement for some on here!? New Zealand took action way before our idiot PM was boasting about shaking hands with covid patients in hospitals!?! And if me mum had bollocks she would have been me dad
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 28, 2021 17:11:19 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 28, 2021 17:36:28 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 28, 2021 17:38:33 GMT
Are you Laura Kuenssberg in disguise?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 28, 2021 17:41:51 GMT
Are you Laura Kuenssberg in disguise? Never been a fan of country music
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Post by Davef on Feb 28, 2021 17:43:42 GMT
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Post by werrington on Feb 28, 2021 17:43:52 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 28, 2021 17:55:26 GMT
No, I’m saying had we adopted a much more stringent border policy from 3 Feb 2020 (the same date NZ implemented theirs), we would have had far less economic and health damage. We could have forced quarantine for all tourists/people repatriating for example. We could have massively increased testing for those delivering freight. I’m no expert on the practicalities of bringing freight to and from the country. But I am sure there are measures that could have been taken which would have led to better outcomes here. It’s not just us. US, Europe, pretty much everyone could learn a thing or two from the far east nations, Australia and NZ when it comes to dealing with covid and taking quick, decisive action. I cannot believe that is a controversial statement for some on here!? New Zealand took action way before our idiot PM was boasting about shaking hands with covid patients in hospitals!?! And if me mum had bollocks she would have been me dad I think you’ll find that these days, and in those circumstances, you would have to ask whether your mum identified as your mum or your dad
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Post by medwaypotter on Feb 28, 2021 17:56:22 GMT
Are you Laura Kuenssberg in disguise? thought the jocks had a lockdown on people entering ?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 28, 2021 18:05:56 GMT
Are you Laura Kuenssberg in disguise? Are people still taking any notice of this complete non-story variant scare mongering horseshit? Have you noticed they normally come up with a new variant when we are surrounded with good news? Anyone would think these stories are timed to perfection.
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Post by Gods on Feb 28, 2021 18:14:17 GMT
Are you Laura Kuenssberg in disguise? There's been a load of compromising On the road to my horizon But I'm gonna be where the lights are shinin' on me Like a rhinestone cowboy!
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Post by musik on Feb 28, 2021 18:15:24 GMT
The Corona situation is worse than ever, they say on the news - FHM and external experts as well.
The vaccination rate will increase hugely in March.
The 3rd wave now in March will be the worst, according to the online news today.
I hope they're wrong, even though some have said the pandemic hasn't even begun.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 28, 2021 18:18:41 GMT
Are people still taking any notice of this complete non-story variant scare mongering horseshit? Have you noticed they normally come up with a new variant when we are surrounded with good news? Anyone would think these stories are timed to perfection. What’s that? Lowest numbers today for months? Yep time to throw out another variant story. It’s a bit transparent isn’t it.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 28, 2021 18:24:35 GMT
Are people still taking any notice of this complete non-story variant scare mongering horseshit? Have you noticed they normally come up with a new variant when we are surrounded with good news? Anyone would think these stories are timed to perfection. What’s that? Lowest numbers today for months? Yep time to throw out another variant story. It’s a bit transparent isn’t it. People still buy into it though. I keep saying it but comedians of the future have material to last them a lifetime after this crap.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 28, 2021 18:50:04 GMT
Better to lock down the whole country for a month+ a bit later then? The way I'd try to deal with covid is to try to make the total number of deaths + economic damage as little as possible, with as much freedom as possible, so the NZ tactics make sense to me. Emotional aguments that "it's just common sense" or I "need a word with myself" basically don't affect my opinion compared with the maths of how pandemics spread, and the evidence from NZ, Australia, Japan, S Korea, Taiwan etc showing that the maths is right and that controlling the virus early means less damage and more freedom overall. I'm surprised people prefer our results to NZ/Australia/Japan's etc. Controlling early does make sense and NZ got it right at the start. Considering they have made the progress they did at first they should really be at the stage of managing the virus and living with it whilst driving a quick vaccine rollout. Unfortunately NZ have not got off the ground with vaccines so in my eyes have missed an opportunity there. They are clearly still believing in zero Covid, which if that's how they want to take themselves forward then fine. But countries like ours absolutely cannot go down that route because we all know zero Covid isn't possible without completely cutting yourselves off from the planet for a seriously long time and probably staying that way. I agreed with the NZ approach at first, but I don't agree with their approach now. Now that makes more sense to me! For zero covid I agree we're not doing that so the NZ strategy doesn't apply to us. But I'll probably disagree about NZ but would change opinion if someone ran the numbers for NZ and my estimate is way off. Zero-covid looks sensible since hardly anyone over there is immune and they just started vaccinating. It depends on exactly which strain they have, but with so few immune people then e.g. 5 cases today will be thousands in ~2 months and tens of thousands a month after that. That's with months of nationwide tier-3-like stuff hurting the economy. If kiwis don't act like tier 3, then it'll be tens of thousands of cases and a crashed healthcare system in 6 weeks, give or take. So the way I see it is they can choose our way with months of slowdown and loads of dead kiwis, or they can do it their way and make it to the vaccine with maybe a few weeks of strict actions and far less death.
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Post by mutters on Feb 28, 2021 18:50:55 GMT
Are people still taking any notice of this complete non-story variant scare mongering horseshit? Have you noticed they normally come up with a new variant when we are surrounded with good news? Anyone would think these stories are timed to perfection. Well we can expect over the next few days a media onslaught telling us that we need to lock ourselves away as, cases are rising in certain areas,(without mentioning test numbers) and people shouldn't be going out and enjoying the sunshine - god forbid they have stayed at home for a number of months and the chance to enjoy some fresh air and exercise is outrageous isn't it? - they might even get some Vitamin D to help the immune system, not just the golden egg of a vaccine injection Oh and a few more variants should come out over the next few days - we just getting the brazilian one, surely the really infectious Sturgeon Scottish one, followed by the holy grail of variants, being the NZ one, giving they are leading the way in locking people down now for just one case! There is still time for a u turn yet, to extend this
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 28, 2021 18:51:09 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 28, 2021 19:26:16 GMT
Kelvingrove Park, Glasgow. Today. Folk are voting with their feet. View AttachmentImagine the situation four weeks from now. People in gardens, possibly more mixing in houses (already witnessed it several times just where I live) I can’t see people adhering in early April
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Post by jeycov on Feb 28, 2021 19:35:35 GMT
Why have these people been allowed to get through our "border control'? How did they get the go ahead to travel here from Paris? Their travel details will show they have travelled from Brazil
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Post by henry on Feb 28, 2021 19:37:22 GMT
Are you Laura Kuenssberg in disguise? Sturgeon vindicated for her draconian lockdowns.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 28, 2021 19:50:25 GMT
Are people still taking any notice of this complete non-story variant scare mongering horseshit? Have you noticed they normally come up with a new variant when we are surrounded with good news? Anyone would think these stories are timed to perfection. Well we can expect over the next few days a media onslaught telling us that we need to lock ourselves away as, cases are rising in certain areas,(without mentioning test numbers) and people shouldn't be going out and enjoying the sunshine - god forbid they have stayed at home for a number of months and the chance to enjoy some fresh air and exercise is outrageous isn't it? - they might even get some Vitamin D to help the immune system, not just the golden egg of a vaccine injection Oh and a few more variants should come out over the next few days - we just getting the brazilian one, surely the really infectious Sturgeon Scottish one, followed by the holy grail of variants, being the NZ one, giving they are leading the way in locking people down now for just one case! There is still time for a u turn yet, to extend this Nailed it.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 28, 2021 19:51:22 GMT
Kelvingrove Park, Glasgow. Today. Folk are voting with their feet. View AttachmentGreat to see.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 28, 2021 20:01:25 GMT
Kelvingrove Park, Glasgow. Today. Folk are voting with their feet. View AttachmentImagine the situation four weeks from now. People in gardens, possibly more mixing in houses (already witnessed it several times just where I live) I can’t see people adhering in early April What kind of sterile, totalitarian loser is going to be listening to the rules in early April if cases continue to fall off a cliff. Based on the current rate, it's highly likely come early April there will be more daily fatalities from over 30 other causes then covid. Earlier today on the radio they were discussing the horrifying inevitability of mortgages going up. Ghastly, tragic forecasts of the many millions in a few years who are going to be owning properties that they simply won't be able to afford. We haven't seen proper inflation in decades and its going to be a huge shock to the system. We have a hellish few years ahead when it comes to the economy and I just hope in the future that every brainwashed pro lockdowner remembers how bat shit crazy they became in 2020/21 - The year a nation lost its mind.
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Post by superjw on Feb 28, 2021 20:13:33 GMT
Are people still taking any notice of this complete non-story variant scare mongering horseshit? Have you noticed they normally come up with a new variant when we are surrounded with good news? Anyone would think these stories are timed to perfection. Well we can expect over the next few days a media onslaught telling us that we need to lock ourselves away as, cases are rising in certain areas,(without mentioning test numbers) and people shouldn't be going out and enjoying the sunshine - god forbid they have stayed at home for a number of months and the chance to enjoy some fresh air and exercise is outrageous isn't it? - they might even get some Vitamin D to help the immune system, not just the golden egg of a vaccine injection Oh and a few more variants should come out over the next few days - we just getting the brazilian one, surely the really infectious Sturgeon Scottish one, followed by the holy grail of variants, being the NZ one, giving they are leading the way in locking people down now for just one case! There is still time for a u turn yet, to extend this Someone watch them goalposts They be moving..
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 28, 2021 22:04:41 GMT
Brasil variant.
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 28, 2021 22:05:48 GMT
Imagine the situation four weeks from now. People in gardens, possibly more mixing in houses (already witnessed it several times just where I live) I can’t see people adhering in early April What kind of sterile, totalitarian loser is going to be listening to the rules in early April if cases continue to fall off a cliff. Based on the current rate, it's highly likely come early April there will be more daily fatalities from over 30 other causes then covid. Earlier today on the radio they were discussing the horrifying inevitability of mortgages going up. Ghastly, tragic forecasts of the many millions in a few years who are going to be owning properties that they simply won't be able to afford. We haven't seen proper inflation in decades and its going to be a huge shock to the system. We have a hellish few years ahead when it comes to the economy and I just hope in the future that every brainwashed pro lockdowner remembers how bat shit crazy they became in 2020/21 - The year a nation lost its mind. There are going to be a lot of people remembering 2020/21.
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Post by chad on Feb 28, 2021 22:07:43 GMT
Imagine the situation four weeks from now. People in gardens, possibly more mixing in houses (already witnessed it several times just where I live) I can’t see people adhering in early April What kind of sterile, totalitarian loser is going to be listening to the rules in early April if cases continue to fall off a cliff. Based on the current rate, it's highly likely come early April there will be more daily fatalities from over 30 other causes then covid. Earlier today on the radio they were discussing the horrifying inevitability of mortgages going up. Ghastly, tragic forecasts of the many millions in a few years who are going to be owning properties that they simply won't be able to afford. We haven't seen proper inflation in decades and its going to be a huge shock to the system. We have a hellish few years ahead when it comes to the economy and I just hope in the future that every brainwashed pro lockdowner remembers how bat shit crazy they became in 2020/21 - The year a nation lost its mind. And 120000 of its citizens
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Post by musik on Feb 28, 2021 22:57:46 GMT
Restrictions from March the 1st in Sweden
No more than 1 person per table at every restaurant. At first they said no more than 1 person per restaurant. In reality though, in smaller places it can actually be almost the same thing ... since each person must have 10 square meters(!) of own space, and long distance between tables. No alcohol served after 8 pm and not open anywhere after 8.30 pm.
The same when visiting every kind of shop. 10 square meters. It means many little shops, boutiques, could only have 1 customer at a time. Also true for barber's shops etc. Very limited number of customers everywhere then. Shops smaller than 10 square meters might have to close down immediately.
People are only allowed to go shoping one by one!
No indoor athletic activities or games permitted! It means no basketball, handball, volleyboll, indoor bandyball, badminton, tennis, table tennis, bowling, gymnastics training or gym weight lifting activities.
Schools half way open. Most lessons online from home.
Authority people stationed and guards patroling and examining rules are in place and followed by the people. Police if necessary.
Traveling not allowed if the bus or tram at least is half empty. This will mean chaos.
All because FHM are shit scared of the British mutation.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 28, 2021 23:20:27 GMT
Restrictions from March the 1st in Sweden No more than 1 person per table at every restaurant. At first they said no more than 1 person per restaurant. In reality though, in smaller places it can actually be almost the same thing ... since each person must have 10 square meters(!) of own space, and long distance between tables. No alcohol served after 8 pm and not open anywhere after 8.30 pm. The same when visiting every kind of shop. 10 square meters. It means many little shops, boutiques, could only have 1 customer at a time. Also true for barber's shops etc. Where limited number of customers everywhere then. Shops smaller than 10 square meters might have to close down immediately. No indoor athletic activities or games permitted! It means no basketball, handball, volleyboll, indoor bandyball, badminton, tennis, table tennis, bowling, gymnastics training or gym weight lifting activities. Schools half way open. Most lessons online from home. Authority people stationed and guards patroling and examining rules are in place and followed by the people. Police if necessary. Traveling not allowed if the bus or tram at least is half empty. This will mean chaos. All because FHM are shit scared of the British mutation. Interesting article: abcnews.go.com/International/sweden-avoided-covid-19-lockdown-strategy-worked/story?id=76047258
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