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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 21, 2020 23:27:55 GMT
It seems madness not to be locking down the UK Well it is coming isn't it? We just seem to be doing it in an orderly fashion (rightly or wrongly). Orderly? What does that even mean? Slowly? Delayed? Too late? Is that what you mean? |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 21, 2020 23:28:27 GMT
Is that it  ok I bow to your superior intelligence, I will have to accept your version that some Chinese bloke fancied an illegal bat for his tea from an illegal "fish market" has led to a virus threatening the lives of billons of people all over the planet, of course the Chinese communist government who lied, oppressed and arrested their own scientific experts then covered up this" virus" allowed their infected people to travel all over the World infecting others are in no way involved in this pandemic at all, actually thinking about your version..... no fcuk that none of it makes sense at all, if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck it's most likely a ........ fecking duck .....duck, don't confuse" intelligence" for common sense son. I'm saying that microbiologists and virologists know more about a fucking virus than you or me tbh. The scientists who sequenced the virus and the ones that wrote the correspondence above are independent, nothing to do with China. 'It walks like a duck...' - it would literally show on its genomic makeup if it's been tampered with or edited by human gene-editing mechanisms. Don't confuse arrogance with wisdom son. We will see the truth will out duck the PRC can not cover it up with social media as it is now, do you still believe it has nothing to do the communist regime in the PRC son ? never trust a Marxist or a Communist  arrogance  quack quack quack duck. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 23:31:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 23:36:49 GMT
Well it is coming isn't it? We just seem to be doing it in an orderly fashion (rightly or wrongly). Orderly? What does that even mean? Slowly? Delayed? Too late? Is that what you mean? Planned, controlled, considered, researched, .......
I didn't say that I agreed with it.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 21, 2020 23:40:22 GMT
Orderly? What does that even mean? Slowly? Delayed? Too late? Is that what you mean? Planned, controlled, considered, researched, ....... I didn't say that I agreed with it.
Right. So we're agreed it's delayed and slow. Using Italy as the benchmark, our planning is behind theirs, our research is behind theirs, our control is behind theirs - all things considered - we're delaying it. Get it locked down. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 23:43:24 GMT
Planned, controlled, considered, researched, ....... I didn't say that I agreed with it.
Right. So we're agreed it's delayed and slow. Using Italy as the benchmark, our planning is behind theirs, our research is behind theirs, our control is behind theirs - all things considered - we're delaying it. Get it locked down. My own opinion is that things could start moving quickly now (our reactions, we know how fast the virus moves).
No doubt that will bring the moaners out from under their rocks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 23:45:50 GMT
I'm saying that microbiologists and virologists know more about a fucking virus than you or me tbh. The scientists who sequenced the virus and the ones that wrote the correspondence above are independent, nothing to do with China. 'It walks like a duck...' - it would literally show on its genomic makeup if it's been tampered with or edited by human gene-editing mechanisms. Don't confuse arrogance with wisdom son. We will see the truth will out duck the PRC can not cover it up with social media as it is now, do you still believe it has nothing to do the communist regime in the PRC son ? never trust a Marxist or a Communist arrogance quack quack quack duck. The govt. covered it up, absolutely. They didn't release or create it. They're also not communist as we've discussed many times, but I'm not going to get into that. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Mar 21, 2020 23:46:27 GMT
I would invite anyone who thinks the virus is man made and has proof to write into Nature with their findings. A bio 4 lab in Wuhan with a close working relationship to a Texas University doesn’t exactly sound like the best place to be undertaking bioweapon development. Nothing in the genetic structure, spike protein conformation or human interaction suggests man made intervention.
As for covering it up cases there’s lots of questions to be asked and to what severity we’ll likely never know the truth behind the methodology of how cases were counted, not counted etc. But there’s no doubt it slowed the effectiveness of responses around the world.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 21, 2020 23:49:21 GMT
If I got that right they're still allowing supermarkets, pharmacies, public transport, insurance, banking... |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 21, 2020 23:50:59 GMT
If I got that right they're still allowing supermarkets, pharmacies, public transport, insurance, banking... Yes seems so. They have defined what they mean by “indispensable industries” |
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 21, 2020 23:53:30 GMT
If I got that right they're still allowing supermarkets, pharmacies, public transport, insurance, banking... Yes seems so. They have defined what they mean by “indispensable industries” That's the sort of thing that needs doing, over in the states fucking Gamestop decided they were vital and then lied about providing cleaning kit to their staff. Nothing to do with the Doom Eternal and Animal Crossing releases coming up ofc  Conte's speech basically ended with "vis unita fortior", we need to re-learn that asap. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 21, 2020 23:55:13 GMT
Right. So we're agreed it's delayed and slow. Using Italy as the benchmark, our planning is behind theirs, our research is behind theirs, our control is behind theirs - all things considered - we're delaying it. Get it locked down. My own opinion is that things could start moving quickly now (our reactions, we know how fast the virus moves). No doubt that will bring the moaners out from under their rocks.
They will start moving quickly - a bloke on this thread from Milan who is going through it all on a personal level has been telling us this for 3 weeks. Where is the considered approach there? I'm not going to hammer the government, but they need to start making these big calls now. They made a big one with the pubs - they got their arm twisted by the chancer from wetherspoons who said pubs were safer than supermarkets. The government had been clear on their position but the public we're getting mixed messages and hearing what they wanted to. They now need to be strict and serious to save some lives. That's what it comes down to - life and death. And if you think I'm moaning then fair enough, I don't care - we need to lock the country down now. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 0:00:10 GMT
My own opinion is that things could start moving quickly now (our reactions, we know how fast the virus moves). No doubt that will bring the moaners out from under their rocks.
They will start moving quickly - a bloke on this thread from Milan who is going through it all on a personal level has been telling us this for 3 weeks. Where is the considered approach there? I'm not going to hammer the government, but they need to start making these big calls now. They made a big one with the pubs - they got their arm twisted by the chancer from wetherspoons who said pubs were safer than supermarkets. The government had been clear on their position but the public we're getting mixed messages and hearing what they wanted to. They now need to be strict and serious to save some lives. That's what it comes down to - life and death. And if you think I'm moaning then fair enough, I don't care - we need to lock the country down now. I don't think that you are moaning at all. Once we get total lockdown (I do believe it is coming) we still have many folks (fucking braindead knobs) that think that this virus is nothing much more than the usual yearly flu type sniffles. They will moan their sacks off and I suggest defy all Govt orders. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 22, 2020 0:02:32 GMT
We will see the truth will out duck the PRC can not cover it up with social media as it is now, do you still believe it has nothing to do the communist regime in the PRC son ? never trust a Marxist or a Communist arrogance quack quack quack duck. The govt. covered it up, absolutely. They didn't release or create it. They're also not communist as we've discussed many times, but I'm not going to get into that. Yes they are, I was sort of on your side of this particular debate, but you lose all credibility by defending the indefensible reality of this evil philosophy in practice. You may as well be defending Nazism. |
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 22, 2020 0:06:36 GMT
If I got that right they're still allowing supermarkets, pharmacies, public transport, insurance, banking... Yes seems so. They have defined what they mean by “indispensable industries” That covers a lot: emergency services, security services, armed forces to help out health and others, police, health and welfare, electricity, gas, water, sewerage, waste disposal/refuse collection, the industries to supply those, such as spare parts, chemicals, raw materials, etc. The list goes on such as services for those who work in the indispensable industries like child nurseries. We really don't need politicians, media, sport, estate agents, second hand car salesmen - the really noble professions  |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 22, 2020 0:11:56 GMT
The one thing worse than the fear that’s being spread is the fucking tin foil hat brigade.
Some of the theories I’ve seen cooked up online are frightening, these chodes are allowed to vote and have children for fucks sake.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 0:15:25 GMT
The one thing worse than the fear that’s being spread is the fucking tin foil hat brigade. Some of the theories I’ve seen cooked up online are frightening, these chodes are allowed to vote and have children for fucks sake. Never mind voting and having kids, some of these cunts drive cars! Do you drive a car? |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 22, 2020 1:14:51 GMT
The one thing worse than the fear that’s being spread is the fucking tin foil hat brigade. Some of the theories I’ve seen cooked up online are frightening, these chodes are allowed to vote and have children for fucks sake. Never mind voting and having kids, some of these cunts drive cars! Do you drive a car? Some of them are teachers too! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 2:46:34 GMT
Slowly but surely I think that people are starting to realise the possible consequences of this virus. Young people are involved in the equation. Whatever is happening in Italy has not peaked, it is carrying on as if nothing can stop it. We know that we are next.
I have seen at first hand the way in which our society has changed over the last two weeks. People compare this event to our war time days. We are a totally different society now, to that which existed back in the 1940s. I think that people now feel that you have to fight for things these days. Look after No 1. Consideration for others is a totally foreign concept. I see instances of this time and time again. I had a fiesty incident only today with a woman who thought that I was queue jumping. I wasn't, she was. I had a packet of mushrooms, a lettuce, small tomatoes, red peppers, and a bottle of whisky (we all need essentials) in my hand basket. She had a tank load in her trolley.
I think that the penny dropped with my wife this afternoon. She became frightened. She can fully work from home in a very well paid job. She is lucky and realises that. She really wants both of us (there are only the two of us here) to go totally into quarantine. We have in no way "stocked up", but with a small upright fridge and freezer we can last (at a pinch) a month, maybe six weeks. I can cook, and can get quite creative with whatever we have.
I have no fear of death at all. I am not just at peace with God, I know Him. He knows me (He, embarrassingly knows every single thing about me). So we know each other quite well.
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Post by dexta on Mar 22, 2020 4:38:22 GMT
I just don’t trust the figures from China They are just so out of line with everywhere else I fear a huge cover up Yep, i smell a massive rat where these shady fuckers are concerned. don't you mean a massive bat |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 6:16:50 GMT
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Post by musik on Mar 22, 2020 6:21:04 GMT
They're also not communist as we've discussed many times, but I'm not going to get into that. What year did they stop being communists would you say? |
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 6:33:58 GMT
Imperial College medics suggesting London now needs to be isolated from the rest of the country plus restricted movement between regions other than London. Seems sensible to me. Do it. Do it tomorrow. Put us all in lockdown as well. It's a week too late for the pubs, do it now. Needs to happen permanently. London is the obvious epicentre of the uk. |
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Post by musik on Mar 22, 2020 6:42:28 GMT
Another worrying thing is that, in Hong Kong they discovered a 2nd case of Corona in pet dog in human to animal transmission. According to a scientist on the radio yesterday, the most worrying thing about this Covid 19 virus is that it has a big tool box. It can transform and mutate and do whatever it wants if an obsticle occur. That makes it difficult with a vaccine. And that's also why the isolated herd immunity theory could be fatal. It might require one herd immunity period in the society after another. |
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Post by Foster on Mar 22, 2020 6:47:56 GMT
Another worrying thing is that, in Hong Kong they discovered a 2nd case of Corona in pet dog in human to animal transmission. According to a scientist on the radio yesterday, the most worrying thing about this Covid 19 virus is that it has a big tool box. It can transform and mutate and do whatever it wants if an obsticle occur. That makes it difficult with a vaccine. And that's also why the isolated herd immunity theory could be fatal. It might require one herd immunity period in the society after another. It 'could' potentially mutute, but so could any other virus. Not sure why you make it sound like it can do as it pleases. I'll put that down to poor English. |
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Post by musik on Mar 22, 2020 6:51:57 GMT
According to a scientist on the radio yesterday, the most worrying thing about this Covid 19 virus is that it has a big tool box. It can transform and mutate and do whatever it wants if an obsticle occur. That makes it difficult with a vaccine. And that's also why the isolated herd immunity theory could be fatal. It might require one herd immunity period in the society after another. It 'could' potentially mutute, but so could any other virus. Not sure why you make it sound like it can do as it pleases. I'll put that down to poor English. That was his opinion. But of course he (like anybody else) wasn't sure what will happen. |
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Post by musik on Mar 22, 2020 6:55:45 GMT
Why do there seem to be so few stories/videos/images of people suffering with the virus in hospital/their families or people who have had it and got better (or had family members die)? Not a pleasant watch/read of course but it does surprise me. Also wouldn't it be a way of convincing people that they need to take this thing seriously if they are not already? I get that access to patients is understandably restricted, and the Government doesn't want to induce panic, but all I seem to see is footage of queues and empty shelves. Or is it just the BBC? I have no agenda but would be interested in what people think. Agree. But they've started w more articles here in Sweden now. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 22, 2020 6:58:22 GMT
According to a scientist on the radio yesterday, the most worrying thing about this Covid 19 virus is that it has a big tool box. It can transform and mutate and do whatever it wants if an obsticle occur. That makes it difficult with a vaccine. And that's also why the isolated herd immunity theory could be fatal. It might require one herd immunity period in the society after another. It 'could' potentially mutute, but so could any other virus. Not sure why you make it sound like it can do as it pleases. I'll put that down to poor English. It can mutate and mutute, blimey! I'll put that down to poor English! |
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Post by musik on Mar 22, 2020 7:01:57 GMT
Latest
Quite a bit of philosophical discussions here on the radio and tv about WHY this virus has come to us now.
A priest got the question "Does God do this to punish us?"
Answer: "I don't think so at all. God doesn't punish people. If anything, He wants to show us something, correct us, make us think."
Eehhh ...
Well. That is to punish, my friend.
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Post by zerps on Mar 22, 2020 7:06:58 GMT
The banks are now printing money backed by nothing. Thin air. Being a massive sceptic, I could see this virus being a smokescreen for a new global financial system. Money backed by debt obviously didn’t work.
Printing a trillion dollars a day indefinitely will be an interesting one.
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ok I bow to your superior intelligence, I will have to accept your version that some Chinese bloke fancied an illegal bat for his tea from an illegal "fish market" has led to a virus threatening the lives of billons of people all over the planet, of course the Chinese communist government who lied, oppressed and arrested their own scientific experts then covered up this" virus" allowed their infected people to travel all over the World infecting others are in no way involved in this pandemic at all, actually thinking about your version..... no fcuk that none of it makes sense at all, if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck it's most likely a ........ fecking duck .....duck, don't confuse" intelligence" for common sense son. 
arrogance 
quack quack quack duck.
