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Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 21, 2020 19:11:10 GMT
Be interesting to see what happens in the next two weeks in the UK.
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 21, 2020 19:11:25 GMT
Don't really need this on top of everything else One thing that never surprises me about some lowlifes - there is never a low that they wont stoop below - absolute scum. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 21, 2020 19:13:28 GMT
As an aside, was anybody else a bit annoyed by the state of our journalists at yesterday's press conference?
"Are you really telling people that they can't see their mothers on mothers' day?"
YES OF COURSE HE IS UNLESS YOU WANT TO KILL YOUR ELDERLY PARENTS ON MOTHERING SUNDAY
"It's all well and good closing pubs, but won't young people go to each other's houses and get drunk there?"
FFS, WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 19:18:26 GMT
As an aside, was anybody else a bit annoyed by the state of our journalists at yesterday's press conference? "Are you really telling people that they can't see their mothers on mothers' day?" YES OF COURSE HE IS UNLESS YOU WANT TO KILL YOUR ELDERLY PARENTS ON MOTHERING SUNDAY "It's all well and good closing pubs, but won't young people go to each other's houses and get drunk there?" FFS, WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO? You don't hear "Mothering Sunday" used too often these days do you?
Mothers Day just gets absorbed into Dogs Day, Cats Day, Fathers Day, Granny day, Grandad Day, Gay Day .... everyday is a "day" to make a bit of money.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 21, 2020 19:18:40 GMT
Another 800 dead in Italy?! That’s just mad. How close is the UK following Italy in terms of number of deaths? I saw this photo 2 days ago, and the similarity continues till today with 233 deaths in Italy 2 weeks ago and 233 deaths in UK today, I wish this will stop soon:  |
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Post by zerps on Mar 21, 2020 19:21:27 GMT
As an aside, was anybody else a bit annoyed by the state of our journalists at yesterday's press conference? "Are you really telling people that they can't see their mothers on mothers' day?" YES OF COURSE HE IS UNLESS YOU WANT TO KILL YOUR ELDERLY PARENTS ON MOTHERING SUNDAY "It's all well and good closing pubs, but won't young people go to each other's houses and get drunk there?" FFS, WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO? People need to be tested for common sense. I’m sure it died out in the 90’s. Smartphones and social media have created a moron pandemic. I’m writing this from a smart phone. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 19:22:46 GMT
As an aside, was anybody else a bit annoyed by the state of our journalists at yesterday's press conference? "Are you really telling people that they can't see their mothers on mothers' day?" YES OF COURSE HE IS UNLESS YOU WANT TO KILL YOUR ELDERLY PARENTS ON MOTHERING SUNDAY "It's all well and good closing pubs, but won't young people go to each other's houses and get drunk there?" FFS, WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO DO? You don't hear "Mothering Sunday" used too often these days do you?
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 21, 2020 19:42:52 GMT
Is this what you’re talking about. “Boris bashers need to cut it out” It hasn’t even started. Boris has been exposed. Get over it & stop pouting. The Torys have had a propaganda machine working for them in form of the media for decades, sniping at anyone who argued with them. FFS, Until this hit the fan, they’d stopped giving the National broadcasters interviews. “He’s been weighed in the scales of righteousness & found wanting”⚖️ I'd reply if I could even understand what it meant to be honest. I can see you👀. Time to put on your big boy pants & see the Big Picture. Your on your own. I’m not you’re or anyone else’s adversary, but I’m not going to accept what it untrueXx |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2020 19:43:03 GMT
Another 800 dead in Italy?! That’s just mad. How close is the UK following Italy in terms of number of deaths? I saw this photo 2 days ago, and the similarity continues till today with 233 deaths in Italy 2 weeks ago and 233 deaths in UK today, I wish this will stop soon: We are following exactly the same trajectory as Italy, yet in Sth. Korea, they are still in double figures. |
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Post by zerps on Mar 21, 2020 19:49:26 GMT
I saw this photo 2 days ago, and the similarity continues till today with 233 deaths in Italy 2 weeks ago and 233 deaths in UK today, I wish this will stop soon: We are following exactly the same trajectory as Italy, yet in Sth. Korea, they are still in double figures. One death in Thailand 🤷♂️ |
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Mar 21, 2020 19:49:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 19:52:23 GMT
I saw this photo 2 days ago, and the similarity continues till today with 233 deaths in Italy 2 weeks ago and 233 deaths in UK today, I wish this will stop soon: We are following exactly the same trajectory as Italy, yet in Sth. Korea, they are still in double figures. The stats that we are given really don't make a great deal of sense, do they? Germany, what is going on there? Italy is a modern European country (India and Africa lag behind somewhat, on all counts). Different methods of reporting surely must explain some of the anomalies.
The only sense that they do make is that this is one almighty mess.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 21, 2020 19:54:20 GMT
Another 800 dead in Italy?! That’s just mad. How close is the UK following Italy in terms of number of deaths? I saw this photo 2 days ago, and the similarity continues till today with 233 deaths in Italy 2 weeks ago and 233 deaths in UK today, I wish this will stop soon: I suspect the govt wouldn't be hoping to recall 65,000 medical staff if they thought it was going to top out at circa 50 per day. |
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Post by f1rew0rks on Mar 21, 2020 19:55:44 GMT
I saw this photo 2 days ago, and the similarity continues till today with 233 deaths in Italy 2 weeks ago and 233 deaths in UK today, I wish this will stop soon: We are following exactly the same trajectory as Italy, yet in Sth. Korea, they are still in double figures. If the government tell you to stay out of the pubs in south Korea you stay out. Same in China, in England they go have a party and say they dont care. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 21, 2020 19:58:06 GMT
We are following exactly the same trajectory as Italy, yet in Sth. Korea, they are still in double figures. If the government tell you to stay out of the pubs in south Korea you stay out. Same in China, in England they go have a party and say they dont care. They've also had 12 years of living with SARS so appreciate the importance of hygiene and minimising contact. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 19:58:23 GMT
I saw this photo 2 days ago, and the similarity continues till today with 233 deaths in Italy 2 weeks ago and 233 deaths in UK today, I wish this will stop soon: I suspect the govt wouldn't be hoping to recall 65,000 medical staff if they thought it was going to top out at circa 50 per day. Getting RR and JCB to switch production to ventilators .......?
I'm all for Staying Calm etc. But ...
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Post by whatsashig on Mar 21, 2020 20:00:40 GMT
You can still buy a decorative stick from trentham so don’t worry
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 21, 2020 20:02:38 GMT
We are following exactly the same trajectory as Italy, yet in Sth. Korea, they are still in double figures. The stats that we are given really don't make a great deal of sense, do they? Germany, what is going on there? Italy is a modern European country (India and Africa lag behind somewhat, on all counts). Different methods of reporting surely must explain some of the anomalies.
It looks like the death rate is about 1% if your hospitals are all ok (S Korea is now at 1.2%, looks like it might go a little higher), but as soon as you get overwhelmed it's more like 4%. Massive, horrible difference in how bad this gets depending on how many have it in the same place at the same time. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 21, 2020 20:08:29 GMT
The stats that we are given really don't make a great deal of sense, do they? Germany, what is going on there? Italy is a modern European country (India and Africa lag behind somewhat, on all counts). Different methods of reporting surely must explain some of the anomalies.
It looks like the death rate is about 1% if your hospitals are all ok (S Korea is now at 1.2%, looks like it might go a little higher), but as soon as you get overwhelmed it's more like 4%. Massive, horrible difference in how bad this gets depending on how many have it in the same place at the same time. That's against confirmed cases. There are a whole lot more cases that go unconfirmed so the rate IS lower. Doesn't change the absolute numbers though. |
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Post by werrington on Mar 21, 2020 20:10:35 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 21, 2020 20:11:46 GMT
I suspect the govt wouldn't be hoping to recall 65,000 medical staff if they thought it was going to top out at circa 50 per day. Getting RR and JCB to switch production to ventilators .......? I'm all for Staying Calm etc. But ...
No choice but to stay calm. Well we have, but most studies would suggest that not doing so won't do you an awful lot of good. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 21, 2020 20:14:28 GMT
By Region
London: 1,965
South East: 492
Midlands: 491
North West: 312
North East and Yorkshire: 298
East of England: 221
South West: 216
By Local Authority
Hampshire: 138
Southwark: 134
Lambeth: 118
Westminster: 110
Brent: 108
Wandsworth: 107
Harrow: 89
Barnet: 81
Croydon: 81
Ealing: 80
Birmingham: 75
Kensington and Chelsea: 75
Hertfordshire: 75
Surrey: 65
Derbyshire: 64
Bromley: 63
Sheffield: 61
Lewisham: 60
Cumbria: 57
Merton: 56
Enfield: 54
Greenwich: 54
Hackney and City of London: 52
Hounslow: 52
Camden: 51
Haringey: 51
Newham: 51
Tower Hamlets: 51
Hillingdon: 50
Islington: 48
Wolverhampton: 45
Hammersmith and Fulham: 45
Essex: 45
Kent: 45
Stoke-on-Trent: 2
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 20:16:05 GMT
The stats that we are given really don't make a great deal of sense, do they? Germany, what is going on there? Italy is a modern European country (India and Africa lag behind somewhat, on all counts). Different methods of reporting surely must explain some of the anomalies.
It looks like the death rate is about 1% if your hospitals are all ok (S Korea is now at 1.2%, looks like it might go a little higher), but as soon as you get overwhelmed it's more like 4%. Massive, horrible difference in how bad this gets depending on how many have it in the same place at the same time. All of that based on dodgy stats. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 20:17:23 GMT
By RegionLondon: 1,965
South East: 492
Midlands: 491
North West: 312
North East and Yorkshire: 298
East of England: 221
South West: 216
By Local Authority
Hampshire: 138
Southwark: 134
Lambeth: 118
Westminster: 110
Brent: 108
Wandsworth: 107
Harrow: 89
Barnet: 81
Croydon: 81
Ealing: 80
Birmingham: 75
Kensington and Chelsea: 75
Hertfordshire: 75
Surrey: 65
Derbyshire: 64
Bromley: 63
Sheffield: 61
Lewisham: 60
Cumbria: 57
Merton: 56
Enfield: 54
Greenwich: 54
Hackney and City of London: 52
Hounslow: 52
Camden: 51
Haringey: 51
Newham: 51
Tower Hamlets: 51
Hillingdon: 50
Islington: 48
Wolverhampton: 45
Hammersmith and Fulham: 45
Essex: 45
Kent: 45
Stoke-on-Trent: 2
London is going to be horrific in a weeks time. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 21, 2020 20:21:06 GMT
What is a living wage in England? 500 Pounds a week? How many people does England have? 68 Million? 68M * 500 Pounds = 34 Billion Pounds * 13 weeks = 442 Billion Pounds How much Tax is collected in UK per year? 620 Billion Pounds? That means the entire Government Revenue for the next 9 Months should be spent given away in the next 13 weeks and the country can go without health service, police, infrastructure development/maintenance, Pensions/welfare, Education, Defense, etc? Then we see where the UK is ...... Bankrupt, riots, and anarchy. Sounds like a plan! £500/week is OTT. Enough to help people ride it out and feed themselves. Imagine the cost after this blows over, if everyone is homeless and needs healthcare due to illnesses resulting from having no job/money/home/food etc. Around 15% (?) of the population are 16 and under, so they'd see a lower amount via the parents. There has been a fair bit of research done into a basic living wage and it tends to benefit economies in the long run. I remember a few studies on homeless people in more detail, including one in London where homeless people were given £3k (no questions asked) to help set themselves up. Sounds stupid? Each homeless person costs the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds a year, and many of the homeless people from the study are now contributing to the economy instead of taking from it (I hate to phrase it like that). Net profit for the tax system, but more importantly, less people on the streets and more people living healthier lives. Wondering if the government have messed up big style - was a 'living wage' even considered? Ignoring self-employed people has been discussed, but am I right thinking the government will cover £80,000 of someone on £100,000/year? It'd be £11,000 for someone on £14,000/year. How is is that fair? Many people on lower incomes will be spending extra on food (no school meals), electric, gas etc. now. |
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 21, 2020 20:21:57 GMT
I thought the recommendation was that elderly and vulnerable people shouldn't go out at all. Is this suggesting they should? Or does it mean that if you are shopping on behalf of someone elderly or vulnerable you can use these times?? What means are being employed to enforce this though? Unless there are security guards at the door checking everyone who comes in, this will be abused by every selfish cunt who've been ravaging the pasta and household items aisles over the past fortnight. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2020 20:22:45 GMT
£500/week is OTT. Enough to help people ride it out and feed themselves. Imagine the cost after this blows over, if everyone is homeless and needs healthcare due to illnesses resulting from having no job/money/home/food etc. Around 15% (?) of the population are 16 and under, so they'd see a lower amount via the parents. There has been a fair bit of research done into a basic living wage and it tends to benefit economies in the long run. I remember a few studies on homeless people in more detail, including one in London where homeless people were given £3k (no questions asked) to help set themselves up. Sounds stupid? Each homeless person costs the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds a year, and many of the homeless people from the study are now contributing to the economy instead of taking from it (I hate to phrase it like that). Net profit for the tax system, but more importantly, less people on the streets and more people living healthier lives. Wondering if the government have messed up big style - was a 'living wage' even considered? Leaving out self-employed people has been discussed, but am I right thinking the government will cover £80,000 of someone on £100,000/year? It'd be £11,000 for someone on £14,000/year. How is is that fair? Many people on lower incomes will be spending extra on food (no school meals), electric, gas etc. now. No, 80% up to 30k or thereabouts. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 21, 2020 20:22:51 GMT
I don't see any problems at all with folk discussing this business. It doesn't mean at all that we are getting scared, frightened or anything else. "Concerned" would be more accurate, and also a reasonable response.
"Stepping back" and carrying on , could actually be the last thing that we need to be doing.
What drove those fucking nut jobs to clear out the stocks in supermarkets is anyones's guess. I don't think that it would be too difficult to start a rumour on Twatter that tanker drivers are not able to supply petrol stations (through self isolation), and the same brain dead cunts would start a fuel shortage.
Carrying on is quite important And you seem particularly good at it...🤣 |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 21, 2020 20:23:58 GMT
Wondering if the government have messed up big style - was a 'living wage' even considered? Leaving out self-employed people has been discussed, but am I right thinking the government will cover £80,000 of someone on £100,000/year? It'd be £11,000 for someone on £14,000/year. How is is that fair? Many people on lower incomes will be spending extra on food (no school meals), electric, gas etc. now. No, 80% up to 30k or thereabouts. Still think the living wage would've been better! |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2020 20:24:33 GMT
I thought the recommendation was that elderly and vulnerable people shouldn't go out at all. Is this suggesting they should? Or does it mean that if you are shopping on behalf of someone elderly or vulnerable you can use these times?? What means are being employed to enforce this though? Unless there are security guards at the door checking everyone who comes in, this will be abused by every selfish cunt who've been ravaging the pasta and household items aisles over the past fortnight. From what I've seen on the news so far, there ARE people patrolling the doors. Folks are definitely getting turned away. |
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