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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 13, 2021 9:29:43 GMT
The fat woman in the mask is right. This young girl not wearing a mask is a risk to her health. Nothing else is. If she’d of spoken to me like that in public I’d of chined the. Ignorant bint Which chin?😉
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 13, 2021 9:33:49 GMT
If she’d of spoken to me like that in public I’d of chined the. Ignorant bint Which chin?😉 😁. The one furthest form her foul mouth
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 13, 2021 9:37:19 GMT
😁. The one furthest form her foul mouth Joking aside this is an absolutely disgraceful thing to see, should have been put in a cell for the night. Poor girl looked terrified
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Post by Gods on Jan 13, 2021 9:38:20 GMT
I hope it's not but wouldn't surprise me. I remember seeing something on the news months ago about people in the far East having a similar thing on their phone (can't remember the country) basically it was a hybrid of track and trace and health passport all in one and they literally had to scan themselves in everywhere, including travel. If they went somewhere they shouldn't the authorities would be on their case. I do have a problem with it being rolled out like this though whilst vaccines are no where near being done. This might be a bit of a generalistic view but when most of the population have sacrificed so much (everything in some cases) to protect the vulnerable, why should certain people get additional freedoms months before the rest of us? Why should a group of over 50s be going on their holidays when everyone under 40/50 might not be able to? If this is the future, it shouldn't be rolled out until the whole population is on a level field - i.e vaccinated or at least given the option. If the vaccine doesn’t prevent the virus from being transmitted/carried why would it be necessary to have an ID that shows you’ve been vaccinated? I think it's not known yet but early thoughts are vaccinated people will be about 10% as likely to spread the virus. I don't know the reason but I suppose as a layman if you are not sweating and wheezing and blowing and coughing you are not projecting neat Covid from every pore of your broken body!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 9:49:17 GMT
The fat woman in the mask is right. This young girl not wearing a mask is a risk to her health. Nothing else is. If she’d of spoken to me like that in public I’d of chined the. Ignorant bint That, my friend, is what happens when you have been sucked into the pit of madness.
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Post by superjw on Jan 13, 2021 9:50:06 GMT
I hope it's not but wouldn't surprise me. I remember seeing something on the news months ago about people in the far East having a similar thing on their phone (can't remember the country) basically it was a hybrid of track and trace and health passport all in one and they literally had to scan themselves in everywhere, including travel. If they went somewhere they shouldn't the authorities would be on their case. I do have a problem with it being rolled out like this though whilst vaccines are no where near being done. This might be a bit of a generalistic view but when most of the population have sacrificed so much (everything in some cases) to protect the vulnerable, why should certain people get additional freedoms months before the rest of us? Why should a group of over 50s be going on their holidays when everyone under 40/50 might not be able to? If this is the future, it shouldn't be rolled out until the whole population is on a level field - i.e vaccinated or at least given the option. If the vaccine doesn’t prevent the virus from being transmitted/carried why would it be necessary to have an ID that shows you’ve been vaccinated? I studied human immunity when I did my A Levels, very difficult to grasp but probably the most interesting thing I learnt about when I was younger. What I do know is vaccines all kind of work the same and it basically allows our immune system to read and understand the pathogen and then produce the antibodies to fight it and store them if and when the real pathogen comes knocking. All amazingly complex but also beautiful at the same time in a weird way! What I do know is vaccines don't always stop transmission or being a carrier because the pathogens are everywhere. Having a population vaccinated means that if the pathogen tries it on with a human host, it won't be able to get a foothold because the immune system should bin it off. As vaccines don't work 100% (flu, measles, chicken pox etc) some people may get infected but hopefully not as bad as without the vaccine as the body is able to fight it. In turn it should reduce the pathogens potency (think it's called viral load) so if it jumps to another person it shouldn't be as bad - and so on etc etc My daughter had a chicken pox jab but still caught it. She just wasn't head to toe.covered. Ultimately some pathogens can all but be eradicated but some are able to "hide" in animals, yellow fever is one I think. If Covid did originate from bats then that's where it will hide. If we drop our guard with vaccines then it only takes 1 person as we.know to kick it off again. My terrible analogy here is it's like trying to build an IKEA wardrobe without an Alan key - you are knackered without them. But if you have got yourself a man drawer full of all sorts you have collected over years, then you will be alrate. That's my take on vaccines - I'm no expert btw. Why the vaccine passport? Who knows what it's really about. Population monitoring? I don't know
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 13, 2021 9:55:09 GMT
If the vaccine doesn’t prevent the virus from being transmitted/carried why would it be necessary to have an ID that shows you’ve been vaccinated? I studied human immunity when I did my A Levels, very difficult to grasp but probably the most interesting thing I learnt about when I was younger. What I do know is vaccines all kind of work the same and it basically allows our immune system to read and understand the pathogen and then produce the antibodies to fight it and store them if and when the real pathogen comes knocking. All amazingly complex but also beautiful at the same time in a weird way! What I do know is vaccines don't always stop transmission or being a carrier because the pathogens are everywhere. Having a population vaccinated means that if the pathogen tries it on with a human host, it won't be able to get a foothold because the immune system should bin it off. As vaccines don't work 100% (flu, measles, chicken pox etc) some people may get infected but hopefully not as bad as without the vaccine as the body is able to fight it. In turn it should reduce the pathogens potency (think it's called viral load) so if it jumps to another person it shouldn't be as bad - and so on etc etc My daughter had a chicken pox jab but still caught it. She just wasn't head to toe.covered. Ultimately some pathogens can all but be eradicated but some are able to "hide" in animals, yellow fever is one I think. If Covid did originate from bats then that's where it will hide. If we drop our guard with vaccines then it only takes 1 person as we.know to kick it off again. My terrible analogy here is it's like trying to build an IKEA wardrobe without an Alan key - you are knackered without them. But if you have got yourself a man drawer full of all sorts you have collected over years, then you will be alrate. That's my take on vaccines - I'm no expert btw. Why the vaccine passport? Who knows what it's really about. Population monitoring? I don't know Good stuff. Wouldn’t a vaccine passport be discriminatory against pregnant women for example who are advised against taking it? Are there any other humanly transmittable(if that’s a word) diseases where you need a vaccine passport?
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Post by Northy on Jan 13, 2021 9:56:52 GMT
Is it just me, or do the case rates not seem to be as high as we thought they would be outside of London and the South East? When the new variant was increasing numbers to over 1k per 100k in those areas, I expected the rest of the country to follow suit within a couple of weeks, but it doesn't seem to have happened. Just looking at Stoke on Trent, Manchester, and places like Cheshire, and they all seem to be around 350-450 per 100k. Strange. Yet, the majority of places in London and the South East are STILL above 1k per 100k. Edit: The exception to this seems to be the Liverpool area, where it's gone through the roof again ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif) Parts of Chester and Ellesmere Port were 1200 per 100,000 at the weekend, also Runcorn has now gone through the roof. Maybe shutting London down and trying to ban travel out of the tier 4's before Christmas helped.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 13, 2021 10:07:14 GMT
The fat woman in the mask is right. This young girl not wearing a mask is a risk to her health. Nothing else is. What does the hysterical woman say about her son? Its something like "and my son doesnt have a father because you cant wear a goddam mask?" But I cant quite make it out.
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Post by andyc on Jan 13, 2021 10:14:41 GMT
This was a great post SuperJW
"Ultimately some pathogens can all but be eradicated but some are able to "hide" in animals, yellow fever is one I think. If Covid did originate from bats then that's where it will hide. If we drop our guard with vaccines then it only takes 1 person as we.know to kick it off again."
I had The Yellow Fever Jab about 30 years ago which I had to have to go Brazil. I went work as I was not told it gave you Yellow Fever for a while. What a terrible day curled up in a corner with hot and cold sweats not being able to lift my arm. The Nurse apologized later as she forgot tell me that I should have gone home and rested
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Post by musik on Jan 13, 2021 10:31:24 GMT
The fat woman in the mask is right. This young girl not wearing a mask is a risk to her health. Nothing else is. Is the grown up woman beside the girl wearing a mask? It doesn't seem like it. Then why is the mask wearing lady shouting at the kid only? The girl must have been coughing or something before this clip.
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Post by Davef on Jan 13, 2021 10:55:44 GMT
The fat woman in the mask is right. This young girl not wearing a mask is a risk to her health. Nothing else is. What does the hysterical woman say about her son? Its something like "and my son doesnt have a father because you cant wear a goddam mask?" But I cant quite make it out. Yeah, that's exactly what she says.
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Post by Northy on Jan 13, 2021 11:08:14 GMT
This was a great post SuperJW "Ultimately some pathogens can all but be eradicated but some are able to "hide" in animals, yellow fever is one I think. If Covid did originate from bats then that's where it will hide. If we drop our guard with vaccines then it only takes 1 person as we.know to kick it off again." I had The Yellow Fever Jab about 30 years ago which I had to have to go Brazil. I went work as I was not told it gave you Yellow Fever for a while. What a terrible day curled up in a corner with hot and cold sweats not being able to lift my arm. The Nurse apologized later as she forgot tell me that I should have gone home and rested I remember having that one as well, and similar reaction, in bed for a day
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 13, 2021 11:08:57 GMT
What does the hysterical woman say about her son? Its something like "and my son doesnt have a father because you cant wear a goddam mask?" But I cant quite make it out. Yeah, that's exactly what she says. Well obviously she's bang out of order for taking her emotions to the grocery store and shouting at a mother and daughter but I think we have some potential context. Aside from the fact the mask thing has become emblematic of extreme political division over there.
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Post by Northy on Jan 13, 2021 11:10:16 GMT
The fat woman in the mask is right. This young girl not wearing a mask is a risk to her health. Nothing else is. What does the hysterical woman say about her son? Its something like "and my son doesnt have a father because you cant wear a goddam mask?" But I cant quite make it out. Sounds like her husband/partner has died of covid then if it sounds like what she's shouting, is it from the USA?
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jan 13, 2021 11:12:58 GMT
What does the hysterical woman say about her son? Its something like "and my son doesnt have a father because you cant wear a goddam mask?" But I cant quite make it out. Sounds like her husband/partner has died of covid then if it sounds like what she's shouting, is it from the USA? I assume it is. Mask wearing over there has become very divisive. The republicans refused to wear masks in the safe room members of congress were taken to in last weeks events and now theres lots of positive tests. Edit - there are as many, if not more, clips of people screaming at people for wearing masks or being asked to wear masks as there are the other way around.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 13, 2021 11:37:40 GMT
I see Hancock was on good form this morning on ITV. 🤦♂️
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 13, 2021 11:46:01 GMT
I studied human immunity when I did my A Levels, very difficult to grasp but probably the most interesting thing I learnt about when I was younger. What I do know is vaccines all kind of work the same and it basically allows our immune system to read and understand the pathogen and then produce the antibodies to fight it and store them if and when the real pathogen comes knocking. All amazingly complex but also beautiful at the same time in a weird way! What I do know is vaccines don't always stop transmission or being a carrier because the pathogens are everywhere. Having a population vaccinated means that if the pathogen tries it on with a human host, it won't be able to get a foothold because the immune system should bin it off. As vaccines don't work 100% (flu, measles, chicken pox etc) some people may get infected but hopefully not as bad as without the vaccine as the body is able to fight it. In turn it should reduce the pathogens potency (think it's called viral load) so if it jumps to another person it shouldn't be as bad - and so on etc etc My daughter had a chicken pox jab but still caught it. She just wasn't head to toe.covered. Ultimately some pathogens can all but be eradicated but some are able to "hide" in animals, yellow fever is one I think. If Covid did originate from bats then that's where it will hide. If we drop our guard with vaccines then it only takes 1 person as we.know to kick it off again. My terrible analogy here is it's like trying to build an IKEA wardrobe without an Alan key - you are knackered without them. But if you have got yourself a man drawer full of all sorts you have collected over years, then you will be alrate. That's my take on vaccines - I'm no expert btw. Why the vaccine passport? Who knows what it's really about. Population monitoring? I don't know Good stuff. Wouldn’t a vaccine passport be discriminatory against pregnant women for example who are advised against taking it? Are there any other humanly transmittable(if that’s a word) diseases where you need a vaccine passport? They use them regularly in the O&G industry and maritime to a certain extent. If a seaman/offshore wqorker is posted to an Afrcian/ Central American country where maleria is possible then you have your medical passport with you showing which jabs youve had for which specific diseases arwe applicable to that region. I check these regularly in the O&G role I carry out
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Post by adri2008 on Jan 13, 2021 11:48:12 GMT
I overheard an elderly man grumbling in Sainsburys earlier that a woman had brought her (young) children shopping. Maybe she was simply ignoring the advice about shopping alone but it didn't seem to have entered his head that perhaps she had no choice in the matter with schools being shut and online delivery slots difficult to get on any sort of short notice. The point being that he hadn't the slightest idea either way but he felt the need to stick his oar in anyway - the pandemic has made people extremely quick to judge.
Some of my relatives (Labour members) who are very active in the community, have suddenly lost any sort of concept of personal circumstances and/or compassion and are busy laying down the law on social media about what they feel should and shouldn't be happening.
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Post by mutters on Jan 13, 2021 12:02:53 GMT
I see Hancock was on good form this morning on ITV. 🤦♂️ He didn't want to set out a timetable did he? Then lost no time reminding the interviewer - the clip I have seen is on Sky - that he was the health secretary Clearly he is loving his time in the spotlight and doesn't want to lose anything that takes that away If and when things do become more positive, you can be sure his tears of joy will reappear If things dont go negatively, you can be sure that he won't be as high profile then
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 13, 2021 12:10:14 GMT
I see Hancock was on good form this morning on ITV. 🤦♂️ He didn't want to set out a timetable did he? Then lost no time reminding the interviewer - the clip I have seen is on Sky - that he was the health secretary Clearly he is loving his time in the spotlight and doesn't want to lose anything that takes that away If and when things do become more positive, you can be sure his tears of joy will reappear If things dont go negatively, you can be sure that he won't be as high profile then
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 13, 2021 12:13:32 GMT
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Post by mutters on Jan 13, 2021 12:17:30 GMT
If the vaccine doesn’t prevent the virus from being transmitted/carried why would it be necessary to have an ID that shows you’ve been vaccinated? I studied human immunity when I did my A Levels, very difficult to grasp but probably the most interesting thing I learnt about when I was younger. What I do know is vaccines all kind of work the same and it basically allows our immune system to read and understand the pathogen and then produce the antibodies to fight it and store them if and when the real pathogen comes knocking. All amazingly complex but also beautiful at the same time in a weird way! What I do know is vaccines don't always stop transmission or being a carrier because the pathogens are everywhere. Having a population vaccinated means that if the pathogen tries it on with a human host, it won't be able to get a foothold because the immune system should bin it off. As vaccines don't work 100% (flu, measles, chicken pox etc) some people may get infected but hopefully not as bad as without the vaccine as the body is able to fight it. In turn it should reduce the pathogens potency (think it's called viral load) so if it jumps to another person it shouldn't be as bad - and so on etc etc My daughter had a chicken pox jab but still caught it. She just wasn't head to toe.covered. Ultimately some pathogens can all but be eradicated but some are able to "hide" in animals, yellow fever is one I think. If Covid did originate from bats then that's where it will hide. If we drop our guard with vaccines then it only takes 1 person as we.know to kick it off again. My terrible analogy here is it's like trying to build an IKEA wardrobe without an Alan key - you are knackered without them. But if you have got yourself a man drawer full of all sorts you have collected over years, then you will be alrate. That's my take on vaccines - I'm no expert btw. Why the vaccine passport? Who knows what it's really about. Population monitoring? I don't know It is Covid-19 Certification / Passport MVP The contract was awarded 18/12/2020 It was posted earlier in the thread - Starkiller I think
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Post by mutters on Jan 13, 2021 12:22:47 GMT
He didn't want to set out a timetable did he? Then lost no time reminding the interviewer - the clip I have seen is on Sky - that he was the health secretary Clearly he is loving his time in the spotlight and doesn't want to lose anything that takes that away If and when things do become more positive, you can be sure his tears of joy will reappear If things dont go negatively, you can be sure that he won't be as high profile then The relevance of this, in relation to setting a timetable for easing restrictions? This is about school meals - I haven't commented on school meals, the thread is about Coronavirus
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 13, 2021 12:56:31 GMT
I studied human immunity when I did my A Levels, very difficult to grasp but probably the most interesting thing I learnt about when I was younger. What I do know is vaccines all kind of work the same and it basically allows our immune system to read and understand the pathogen and then produce the antibodies to fight it and store them if and when the real pathogen comes knocking. All amazingly complex but also beautiful at the same time in a weird way! What I do know is vaccines don't always stop transmission or being a carrier because the pathogens are everywhere. Having a population vaccinated means that if the pathogen tries it on with a human host, it won't be able to get a foothold because the immune system should bin it off. As vaccines don't work 100% (flu, measles, chicken pox etc) some people may get infected but hopefully not as bad as without the vaccine as the body is able to fight it. In turn it should reduce the pathogens potency (think it's called viral load) so if it jumps to another person it shouldn't be as bad - and so on etc etc My daughter had a chicken pox jab but still caught it. She just wasn't head to toe.covered. Ultimately some pathogens can all but be eradicated but some are able to "hide" in animals, yellow fever is one I think. If Covid did originate from bats then that's where it will hide. If we drop our guard with vaccines then it only takes 1 person as we.know to kick it off again. My terrible analogy here is it's like trying to build an IKEA wardrobe without an Alan key - you are knackered without them. But if you have got yourself a man drawer full of all sorts you have collected over years, then you will be alrate. That's my take on vaccines - I'm no expert btw. Why the vaccine passport? Who knows what it's really about. Population monitoring? I don't know It is Covid-19 Certification / Passport MVP The contract was awarded 18/12/2020 It was posted earlier in the thread - Starkiller I think It seems pretty inevitable that - for a period at least - many countries will want evidence of vaccination before allowing you to visit (no different to Yellow Fever for some countries now) - and in that respect if the best way to demonstrate you've had a vaccination is one of these certificates then I'll want one. If you have to show them in order to renew your season ticket at the BET365 then that is a completely different matter altogether.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 13, 2021 12:59:39 GMT
😁. The one furthest form her foul mouth Joking aside this is an absolutely disgraceful thing to see, should have been put in a cell for the night. Poor girl looked terrified I'd go further. She should be forced to do labour in the freezing cold for the rest of her life. In the summer she should be forced to run 40 miles a day and eat pig shit for dinner.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 13, 2021 13:06:57 GMT
The relevance of this, in relation to setting a timetable for easing restrictions? This is about school meals - I haven't commented on school meals, the thread is about Coronavirus The relevance is firstly Dave’s point in which you replied to and secondly the ineptitude of Hancock,that ok🤔
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Post by superjw on Jan 13, 2021 13:10:21 GMT
This was a great post SuperJW "Ultimately some pathogens can all but be eradicated but some are able to "hide" in animals, yellow fever is one I think. If Covid did originate from bats then that's where it will hide. If we drop our guard with vaccines then it only takes 1 person as we.know to kick it off again." I had The Yellow Fever Jab about 30 years ago which I had to have to go Brazil. I went work as I was not told it gave you Yellow Fever for a while. What a terrible day curled up in a corner with hot and cold sweats not being able to lift my arm. The Nurse apologized later as she forgot tell me that I should have gone home and rested I remember having that one as well, and similar reaction, in bed for a day Only vaccines I've had for travel was Typhoid and Hep B & C I think. I remember feeling rough for a few days after and I had to take the little vaccination card with me when I went.
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Post by thebet365 on Jan 13, 2021 13:12:05 GMT
The relevance of this, in relation to setting a timetable for easing restrictions? This is about school meals - I haven't commented on school meals, the thread is about Coronavirus The relevance is firstly Dave’s point in which you replied to and secondly the ineptitude of Hancock,that ok🤔 He's still got the hump with you for being the original Mutters.
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Post by superjw on Jan 13, 2021 13:16:23 GMT
It is Covid-19 Certification / Passport MVP The contract was awarded 18/12/2020 It was posted earlier in the thread - Starkiller I think It seems pretty inevitable that - for a period at least - many countries will want evidence of vaccination before allowing you to visit (no different to Yellow Fever for some countries now) - and in that respect if the best way to demonstrate you've had a vaccination is one of these certificates then I'll want one. If you have to show them in order to renew your season ticket at the BET365 then that is a completely different matter altogether. Yes I agree, vaccination records/passports are pretty common all over the world for various things so given Covid is affecting the majority of countries it does make sense for travel. Perhaps in the spirit of fairness and equality I imagine there will be challenges from those who either can't have or choose not to have the Covid jab. What would that be? My guess is mandatory testing and/or quarantine like we have now. As you say having to use one for day to day activity then that's a dangerous and divisive road to go down.
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