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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 19, 2020 22:27:21 GMT
Me neither 🤣 But surely you can see many reasons why people would be left with no alternative but to get out of dodge? But at the cost of spreading this new strain to other areas🤔 Look at Franklin’s sons situation, wander the streets looking for the last room in the inn (if he could afford it) or come home. For me it would be a no brainer |
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 19, 2020 22:29:50 GMT
But isn't it a new and more virulent strain? If we didn't already have herd immunity to covid 19 based on other commonly encountered coronaviruses, then why should we have herd immunity to his big bad brother, covid 20, based on his already encountered little brother? It's still covid 19 but a mutated version. Covid 20 has a nice ring to it though doesn't it. Expect to hear it in a briefing in the next week or so. Oh - I found that evidence on how much more dangerous the new strain is: Oh. erm, ok. Well I'm sure it definitely exists and it's definitely 'sobering'. That guy who hadn't seen a woman until last year said so. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 22:31:26 GMT
But isn't it a new and more virulent strain? If we didn't already have herd immunity to covid 19 based on other commonly encountered coronaviruses, then why should we have herd immunity to his big bad brother, covid 20, based on his already encountered little brother? It's still covid 19 but a mutated version. But Vallance has said himself that he sees this as another virus. Why are Covid cases on the floor in Liverpool? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 22:33:06 GMT
But at the cost of spreading this new strain to other areas🤔 Look at Franklin’s sons situation, wander the streets looking for the last room in the inn (if he could afford it) or come home. For me it would be a no brainer All the hotels are shut anyway but fuck him, it's his own fault for being down there. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2020 22:34:03 GMT
But at the cost of spreading this new strain to other areas🤔 Look at Franklin’s sons situation, wander the streets looking for the last room in the inn (if he could afford it) or come home. For me it would be a no brainer No I’ve not seen that mate and yes it’s a very hard decision to make I accept that |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Dec 19, 2020 22:36:09 GMT
It's still covid 19 but a mutated version. But Vallance has said himself that sees this as another virus. Why are Covid cases on the floor in Liverpool? I don't know, why are COVID cases on the floor in Liverpool? Oh, sorry - this isn't the Friday joke thread is it. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 22:37:03 GMT
But Vallance has said himself that sees this as another virus. Why are Covid cases on the floor in Liverpool? I don't know, why are COVID cases on the floor in Liverpool? Oh, sorry - this isn't the Friday joke thread is it. Eh? |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 19, 2020 22:37:41 GMT
But isn't it a new and more virulent strain? If we didn't already have herd immunity to covid 19 based on other commonly encountered coronaviruses, then why should we have herd immunity to his big bad brother, covid 20, based on his already encountered little brother? It's still covid 19 but a mutated version. Isn't influenza a continuous varying strain though which is why flu will never be ever removed from society. Apart from this year. |
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Post by franklin on Dec 19, 2020 22:38:57 GMT
But at the cost of spreading this new strain to other areas🤔 Look at Franklin’s sons situation, wander the streets looking for the last room in the inn (if he could afford it) or come home. For me it would be a no brainer They're not interested mate it doesn't effect them, my lad lost his job and home in Australia and we booked him a flight home on the 3rd December. He got another job this Thursday in Milton Keynes and he's out of work on Saturday. He couldn't stay in his hotel he was booked in as it was closing so had to come home. To suggest any other alternative is just ridiculous. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 19, 2020 22:39:28 GMT
Covid 20 has a nice ring to it though doesn't it Covid 20: The Quickening Covid 20: Electric Boogaloo Covid 20: Covidier |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Dec 19, 2020 22:42:31 GMT
I shall because I can’t see a rational counter-argument. The job of the opposition is to hold the incumbent government to account, there has been no meaningful opposition to an appalling government for several years, prior to the last election and now. Have you missed Starmer forensically dismantling Bozo the Clown's bluster and bollocks at almost every PMQS held since he became Labour leader? Forensically dismantling?!? Yes, we’ll played that man, doing what anybody on this board could do to the towering intellect that is BoJo and his governments logic. Have you missed the gallant Sir Kier getting splinters in his arse from all that fence sitting? |
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 19, 2020 22:44:39 GMT
Not sure why Admin stopped us discussing football, but I can see it being suspended any day soon, 5 games off today, and with Tier 4 now in place surely teams and all the peripheral entourage should not be travelling.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 22:44:45 GMT
Look at Franklin’s sons situation, wander the streets looking for the last room in the inn (if he could afford it) or come home. For me it would be a no brainer They're not interested mate it doesn't effect them, my lad lost his job and home in Australia and we booked him a flight home on the 3rd December. He got another job this Thursday in Milton Keynes and he's out of work on Saturday. He couldn't stay in his hotel he was booked in as it was closing so had to come home. To suggest any other alternative is just ridiculous. He must be absolutely devastated mate, really hope things turn around for him in the New Year. 🤞 |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Dec 19, 2020 22:45:20 GMT
Wow. Peston went all in then. I’d like to place on record my thanks to the glorious south for my subsidy.
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Post by franklin on Dec 19, 2020 22:51:36 GMT
They're not interested mate it doesn't effect them, my lad lost his job and home in Australia and we booked him a flight home on the 3rd December. He got another job this Thursday in Milton Keynes and he's out of work on Saturday. He couldn't stay in his hotel he was booked in as it was closing so had to come home. To suggest any other alternative is just ridiculous. He must be absolutely devastated mate, really hope things turn around for him in the New Year. 🤞 Paul he moved to Australia 18months ago and was doing brilliantly then he lost his job in March. Me and the missus paid his rent for months while he looked for work and he eventually got some casual work just enough to allow us to reduce our costs. My youngest lost his job in April also abroad and we then had two to help I don't mind one bit but its in the double figures of thousands to help them both. Eventually though we had nothing left just as my youngest got full time work so he's fine now. However the eldest just couldn't find regular work and we were all devastated but he had to come home. Then this its the reality of the situation its destroyed lives. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 22:54:14 GMT
Plans to post millions of rapid testing kits to homes are BLOCKED by regulator amid fears they are not accurate enough when people test themselves. Boris Johnson's plan to post millions of testing kits to homes each week in the hope of avoiding a third national lockdown have been blocked by the regulator. The Prime Minister and Health Secretary Matt Hancock have repeatedly said that the lateral flow tests, which deliver results in 30 minutes, could help to bring down infection rates in regions hit hard by Covid-19. But the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) believes the lateral flow tests are not accurate enough when people test themselves - dampening hopes that they could help to avoid a new lockdown. The tests only pick up around 49 per cent of infections when used by ordinary people. And Education Secretary Gavin Williamson said last week teachers would administer the tests to pupils when they return to schools next month.   www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9070221/amp/Plans-post-millions-rapid-testing-kits-homes-BLOCKED-regulator-accuracy-fears.html?__twitter_impression=true |
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Post by chad on Dec 19, 2020 22:54:41 GMT
I shall because I can’t see a rational counter-argument. The job of the opposition is to hold the incumbent government to account, there has been no meaningful opposition to an appalling government for several years, prior to the last election and now. Have you missed Starmer forensically dismantling Bozo the Clown's bluster and bollocks at almost every PMQS held since he became Labour leader? You must be watching a different PMQs |
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 19, 2020 22:55:42 GMT
He must be absolutely devastated mate, really hope things turn around for him in the New Year. 🤞 Paul he moved to Australia 18months ago and was doing brilliantly then he lost his job in March. Me and the missus paid his rent for months while he looked for work and he eventually got some casual work just enough to allow us to reduce our costs. My youngest lost his job in April also abroad and we then had two to help I don't mind one bit but its in the double figures of thousands to help them both. Eventually though we had nothing left just as my youngest got full time work so he's fine now. However the eldest just couldn't find regular work and we were all devastated but he had to come home. Then this its the reality of the situation its destroyed lives. And it's the young, poor and voiceless who are being affected most. I hope things improve for them in the new year. |
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Post by bgreen13 on Dec 19, 2020 22:55:44 GMT
Ah, even in the midst of another expose of this government’s incompetence, those who voted Tory instead of Labour need to convince themselves we would have been worse off under Corbyn. Let me tell you, hundreds more elderly people would still be alive today if Jezza had made it to No 10. But you reap what you sow. Holy bollocks mate, that is some revisionist shit - Corby made himself totally unelectable - this bunch of bastards virtually ran unopposed. Don't tell red huddy though... |
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Dec 19, 2020 22:56:34 GMT
Plans to post millions of rapid testing kits to homes are BLOCKED by regulator amid fears they are not accurate enough when people test themselves. Boris Johnson's plan to post millions of testing kits to homes each week in the hope of avoiding a third national lockdown have been blocked by the regulator. The Prime Minister and Health Secretary Matt Hancock have repeatedly said that the lateral flow tests, which deliver results in 30 minutes, could help to bring down infection rates in regions hit hard by Covid-19. But the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) believes the lateral flow tests are not accurate enough when people test themselves - dampening hopes that they could help to avoid a new lockdown. The tests only pick up around 49 per cent of infections when used by ordinary people. And Education Secretary Gavin Williamson said last week teachers would administer the tests to pupils when they return to schools next month.   www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9070221/amp/Plans-post-millions-rapid-testing-kits-homes-BLOCKED-regulator-accuracy-fears.html?__twitter_impression=trueGavin Williamson, another inept fuckwit.. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 22:57:29 GMT
He must be absolutely devastated mate, really hope things turn around for him in the New Year. 🤞 Paul he moved to Australia 18months ago and was doing brilliantly then he lost his job in March. Me and the missus paid his rent for months while he looked for work and he eventually got some casual work just enough to allow us to reduce our costs. My youngest lost his job in April also abroad and we then had two to help I don't mind one bit but its in the double figures of thousands to help them both. Eventually though we had nothing left just as my youngest got full time work so he's fine now. However the eldest just couldn't find regular work and we were all devastated but he had to come home. Then this its the reality of the situation its destroyed lives. Terrible for you mate, when you've tried to do nothing but the best all round, really hope things turn around soon. |
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 19, 2020 22:59:02 GMT
Plans to post millions of rapid testing kits to homes are BLOCKED by regulator amid fears they are not accurate enough when people test themselves. Boris Johnson's plan to post millions of testing kits to homes each week in the hope of avoiding a third national lockdown have been blocked by the regulator. The Prime Minister and Health Secretary Matt Hancock have repeatedly said that the lateral flow tests, which deliver results in 30 minutes, could help to bring down infection rates in regions hit hard by Covid-19. But the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) believes the lateral flow tests are not accurate enough when people test themselves - dampening hopes that they could help to avoid a new lockdown. The tests only pick up around 49 per cent of infections when used by ordinary people. And Education Secretary Gavin Williamson said last week teachers would administer the tests to pupils when they return to schools next month.   www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9070221/amp/Plans-post-millions-rapid-testing-kits-homes-BLOCKED-regulator-accuracy-fears.html?__twitter_impression=trueI've been saying this about the ONS study that I'm on. You administer the test yourself (and are paid £25 per person who is tested in the household). I'm certain that lots of people on the study won't even bother sticking the swab down their throat and up their nose as it's pretty unpleasant when you do it properly. The employee who brings it all to your house will never know and likely won't care either. They're getting paid very well too from what a few of them have told me. |
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Post by hcstokie on Dec 19, 2020 23:03:13 GMT
Have you missed Starmer forensically dismantling Bozo the Clown's bluster and bollocks at almost every PMQS held since he became Labour leader? Forensically dismantling?!? Yes, we’ll played that man, doing what anybody on this board could do to the towering intellect that is BoJo and his governments logic. Have you missed the gallant Sir Kier getting splinters in his arse from all that fence sitting? I was just about to post something similar. You can sling as much shit as you like, but Starmer has proved that he’s all talk and no action. Heaven forbid you could actually stand up and be counted when it would be much easier to abstain on any meaningful votes and then stamp your feet and point your fingers afterwards. I can’t stand the government or the opposition. At the last election I was genuinely embarrassed when I spoilt my paper. I couldn’t bring myself to vote for any of them as I couldn’t find one party to represent my values. It’s such a sorry state of affairs that 12 months later after I questioned my own moral compass that I now feel completely vindicated in my decision back then. Moving forward, I hope that people have long memories and when we get the opportunity we cleanse ourselves of this shower of shit currently in Westminster. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 19, 2020 23:03:20 GMT
It's still covid 19 but a mutated version. But Vallance has said himself that he sees this as another virus. Why are Covid cases on the floor in Liverpool? I think you're wrong but if you are right then it has implications for the vaccine. If you are right then this nightmare has no end. |
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Post by franklin on Dec 19, 2020 23:03:31 GMT
Paul he moved to Australia 18months ago and was doing brilliantly then he lost his job in March. Me and the missus paid his rent for months while he looked for work and he eventually got some casual work just enough to allow us to reduce our costs. My youngest lost his job in April also abroad and we then had two to help I don't mind one bit but its in the double figures of thousands to help them both. Eventually though we had nothing left just as my youngest got full time work so he's fine now. However the eldest just couldn't find regular work and we were all devastated but he had to come home. Then this its the reality of the situation its destroyed lives. Terrible for you mate, when you've tried to do nothing but the best all round, really hope things turn around soon. Mate it's going to be the same for millions they might be healthy but nothing else for them thats the issue for me. What are these people going to do, homes repossessed mass unemployment its scary for them. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 19, 2020 23:04:52 GMT
Can you point him to the evidence that this new variant is “70% more transmissible than the old variant" though? No but that's got nothing to do with the point I'm making Link us to one of his claims about herd immunity in London then. |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 19, 2020 23:05:33 GMT
Can I ask another question which was completely ignored today but might be significant? Shame journalist don't ask useful questions.
Has anyone said if you can catch one variant and then also catch the other or does your previous antibody or T cell response make this unlikely?
Because regardless of the vaccine most of the unvaccinated waiting their turn will have a whole new ball game to deal with.
@estrangedsonoffaye
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 23:11:36 GMT
Can I ask another question which was completely ignored today but might be significant? Shame journalist don't ask useful questions. Has anyone said if you can catch one variant and then also catch the other or does your previous antibody or T cell response make this unlikely? Because regardless of the vaccine most of the unvaccinated waiting their turn will have a whole new ball game to deal with. @estrangedsonoffaye It's probably the most important question at the moment isn't it? I've been literally discussing it with the missus this minute. |
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 19, 2020 23:14:54 GMT
Can I ask another question which was completely ignored today but might be significant? Shame journalist don't ask useful questions. Has anyone said if you can catch one variant and then also catch the other or does your previous antibody or T cell response make this unlikely? Because regardless of the vaccine most of the unvaccinated waiting their turn will have a whole new ball game to deal with. @estrangedsonoffaye It's probably the most important question at the moment isn't it? I've been literally discussing it with the missus this minute. It's absolutely crucial. It's the difference between "It'll all be over by spring" or "lockdown until next Christmas". Edit - but also - is it as dangerous? You'd guess that if it is more easily transmissable then it will also be less dangerous. That's usually the reason that a virus is more transmissable, as more people who have it are fine and can go about their business in the normal way without being bed ridden, or suffering from obvious symptoms |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 23:18:17 GMT
But Vallance has said himself that he sees this as another virus. Why are Covid cases on the floor in Liverpool? I think you're wrong but if you are right then it has implications for the vaccine. If you are right then this nightmare has no end. That's a fair comment mate and I'm not flying a flag, just asking the question but yes you'd be right. I found this thread interesting ... |
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