wammy
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Post by wammy on Dec 19, 2020 21:52:23 GMT
No wonder we’re in the state we are with muppets around with this attitude. People caught flouting the rules should be exempt from treatment if they’re unlucky enough to need it. With respect you're horribly brainwashed and somewhat deluded if you believe that. Hardly, I’ve seen the effects first hand. I don’t see why it’s so hard to understand. Measures are never going to rid us of the virus, but it stops the hospitals being overwhelmed, which they’re dangerously close to as we are with all of the controls that we’ve had in place. Without control we’re going to get to a point that patients with treatable conditions are not going to get treatment as the hospitals become saturated with Covid patients. UHNM has a third of its beds taken by Covid patients as it is. You’re telling me you would want scientific advisors to be elected to their position through a popularity competition, you just have to look at the shambles of a government that we have to see how that works out. I’m quite happy for experts to find their position through academic reputation and experience. How on earth can anyone look at control methods and title them sick and twisted... they’ve been too lax if anything. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2020 21:53:27 GMT
Here’s another one
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Post by werrington on Dec 19, 2020 21:54:42 GMT
So if they don’t live in London and have only been given a few hours notice to get home what do you expect them to do? You keep calling them selfish but you aren’t answering the question mutts If you or one of your family was in London tonight when the news broke what would you do? Stay where they are If only life was that simple eh |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 19, 2020 21:55:21 GMT
So if they don’t live in London and have only been given a few hours notice to get home what do you expect them to do? You keep calling them selfish but you aren’t answering the question mutts If you or one of your family was in London tonight when the news broke what would you do? Stay where they are What about people visiting London, are they allowed leave? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2020 21:56:18 GMT
Someone needs to come out and explain higher transmission in a way we can all understand. At the end of the day it's not burrowing through PPE or jumping 10m instead of 2m. So which of the current "hands, face, space" is it circumventing? It might need less of it to catch it maybe but it's still airborne in droplets. I understand the bit about the shorter infection period perhaps. That still means you have to catch it though. |
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Post by yeswilko on Dec 19, 2020 21:56:33 GMT
We told you he was a clown, hope you're all wrapped up nice and cosy in your sovereignty ducks.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2020 21:57:16 GMT
What about people visiting London, are they allowed leave? Visiting London🤔Tier 3 |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2020 21:58:17 GMT
If only life was that simple eh If only mate but instead just pass it on |
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 19, 2020 21:58:56 GMT
Someone needs to come out and explain higher transmission in a way we can all understand. At the end of the day it's not burrowing through PPE or jumping 10m instead of 2m. So which of the current "hands, face, space" is it circumventing? It might need less of it to catch it maybe but it's still airborne in droplets. I understand the bit about the shorter infection period perhaps. That still means you have to catch it though. It just is alright! Chris Whitty said so - he showed us a graph with a line going up really steeply, and you can't argue with those. It's science! |
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 19, 2020 22:00:51 GMT
Saw Firebreak Horseshit supporting World of Twist in the early 90s. Great band. |
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Post by franklin on Dec 19, 2020 22:02:43 GMT
Whitty is an unelected bureaucrat who needs to shut the fuck up and stop telling the people what to do. It's great to see the people finally ignoring this sick, twisted, disgusting advice. No wonder we’re in the state we are with muppets around with this attitude. People caught flouting the rules should be exempt from treatment if they’re unlucky enough to need it. I assume you're the same with druggies, alcoholics, smokers, extreme sports injuries etc correct. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 19, 2020 22:03:22 GMT
I've lived in London for 8 years and some of the small flats I've lived in with no outdoor space whatsoever, I don't think I could cope being cooped up there around this time of year, especially those who are on their own.
I'm all for younger people taking the decision to move home this evening for the good of their mental health.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 19, 2020 22:05:51 GMT
Someone needs to come out and explain higher transmission in a way we can all understand. At the end of the day it's not burrowing through PPE or jumping 10m instead of 2m. So which of the current "hands, face, space" is it circumventing? It might need less of it to catch it maybe but it's still airborne in droplets. I understand the bit about the shorter infection period perhaps. That still means you have to catch it though. You get me into trouble linking me to outliers 🤣 you know what they say;
"If you ask a question it makes you look stupid for 5 minutes – but if you don't ask – you stay stupid for years" |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Dec 19, 2020 22:06:21 GMT
Holy bollocks mate, that is some revisionist shit - Corby made himself totally unelectable - this bunch of bastards virtually ran unopposed. You keep telling yourself that. I shall because I can’t see a rational counter-argument. The job of the opposition is to hold the incumbent government to account, there has been no meaningful opposition to an appalling government for several years, prior to the last election and now. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 19, 2020 22:06:59 GMT
With respect you're horribly brainwashed and somewhat deluded if you believe that. Hardly, I’ve seen the effects first hand. I don’t see why it’s so hard to understand. Measures are never going to rid us of the virus, but it stops the hospitals being overwhelmed, which they’re dangerously close to as we are with all of the controls that we’ve had in place. Without control we’re going to get to a point that patients with treatable conditions are not going to get treatment as the hospitals become saturated with Covid patients. UHNM has a third of its beds taken by Covid patients as it is. You’re telling me you would want scientific advisors to be elected to their position through a popularity competition, you just have to look at the shambles of a government that we have to see how that works out. I’m quite happy for experts to find their position through academic reputation and experience. How on earth can anyone look at control methods and title them sick and twisted... they’ve been too lax if anything. Fair enough we'll agree to disagree. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 19, 2020 22:07:33 GMT
Obviously not but that's the reason we should have locked down much earlier so we wouldn't have got into this situation and people could have enjoyed Xmas with their families. I said this would happen but all I got was shit for it and a lot of it from yourself. You mean a bit like the tragically woeful Welsh lockdown (firebreak horseshit)? The one that failed that badly it ended in Welsh cases actually increasing during that period? It was a 2 week lockdown which wasn't long enough to do anything and then everything opened up straight after. It was a total waste of time the way it was done. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 19, 2020 22:08:58 GMT
Someone needs to come out and explain higher transmission in a way we can all understand. At the end of the day it's not burrowing through PPE or jumping 10m instead of 2m. So which of the current "hands, face, space" is it circumventing? It might need less of it to catch it maybe but it's still airborne in droplets. I understand the bit about the shorter infection period perhaps. That still means you have to catch it though. I can point him in the right direction of all the rubbish he posted about there being herd immunity in London if he likes - his own twitter page. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 19, 2020 22:09:14 GMT
30 critical care beds for an area covering almost 500,000 people (Stoke, Newcastle and Stafford) plus the hospital is taking patients from North Wales. Not hard to see where the problem lies is it? Obviously not but that's the reason we should have locked down much earlier so we wouldn't have got into this situation and people could have enjoyed Xmas with their families. I said this would happen but all I got was shit for it and a lot of it from yourself. Don't talk rubbish. Lockdown or not, 30 critical care beds for a population of 390,000 will stretch the hospital during winter respiratory season in normal times. |
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Post by franklin on Dec 19, 2020 22:13:23 GMT
If only life was that simple eh Absolutely my lad works in Milton Keynes now locked down, 18.50 train straight home i picked him up at 19.50. He was staying in a hotel which closes at midnight what the fuck is he supposed to do sleep under a hedge. |
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 19, 2020 22:14:14 GMT
I can point him in the right direction of all the rubbish he posted about there being herd immunity in London if he likes - his own twitter page. But isn't it a new and more virulent strain? If we didn't already have herd immunity to covid 19 based on other commonly encountered coronaviruses, then why should we have herd immunity to his big bad brother, covid 20, based on his already encountered little brother? |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 19, 2020 22:14:58 GMT
What about people visiting London, are they allowed leave? Visiting London🤔Tier 3 Were you not allowed travel to London before t3 implemented? |
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Post by Davef on Dec 19, 2020 22:16:01 GMT
I can point him in the right direction of all the rubbish he posted about there being herd immunity in London if he likes - his own twitter page. Can you point him to the evidence that this new variant is “70% more transmissible than the old variant" though? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2020 22:19:51 GMT
Were you not allowed travel to London before t3 implemented? Not a clue but anyone with half a brain cell wouldn’t have unless it was work |
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wammy
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Post by wammy on Dec 19, 2020 22:21:02 GMT
Obviously not but that's the reason we should have locked down much earlier so we wouldn't have got into this situation and people could have enjoyed Xmas with their families. I said this would happen but all I got was shit for it and a lot of it from yourself. Don't talk rubbish. Lockdown or not, 30 critical care beds for a population of 390,000 will stretch the hospital during winter respiratory season in normal times. Worth nothing that the uk average is 6.6 crit care beds per 100,000, so this ratio is nothing that isn’t commonplace for the uk. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 19, 2020 22:21:02 GMT
I can point him in the right direction of all the rubbish he posted about there being herd immunity in London if he likes - his own twitter page. Can you point him to the evidence that this new variant is “70% more transmissible than the old variant" though? No but that's got nothing to do with the point I'm making |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 19, 2020 22:22:06 GMT
Were you not allowed travel to London before t3 implemented? Not a clue but anyone with half a brain cell wouldn’t have unless it was work Me neither 🤣 But surely you can see many reasons why people would be left with no alternative but to get out of dodge? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2020 22:23:33 GMT
Not a clue but anyone with half a brain cell wouldn’t have unless it was work Me neither 🤣 But surely you can see many reasons why people would be left with no alternative but to get out of dodge? But at the cost of spreading this new strain to other areas🤔 |
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Dec 19, 2020 22:25:36 GMT
You mean a bit like the tragically woeful Welsh lockdown (firebreak horseshit)? The one that failed that badly it ended in Welsh cases actually increasing during that period? It was a 2 week lockdown which wasn't long enough to do anything and then everything opened up straight after. It was a total waste of time the way it was done. This x 100. A shitty ineffectual lockdown and then into opening everything up and fucking fans at sports grounds because that was absolutely vital. Now I have to decide with 1hr 30 left do I get the hell out of dodge or stay in London not seeing family over the xmas period. He's a fucking clown and I want to swing the fop haired weasel fuck. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 19, 2020 22:25:57 GMT
I can point him in the right direction of all the rubbish he posted about there being herd immunity in London if he likes - his own twitter page. But isn't it a new and more virulent strain? If we didn't already have herd immunity to covid 19 based on other commonly encountered coronaviruses, then why should we have herd immunity to his big bad brother, covid 20, based on his already encountered little brother? It's still covid 19 but a mutated version. |
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 19, 2020 22:26:29 GMT
You keep telling yourself that. I shall because I can’t see a rational counter-argument. The job of the opposition is to hold the incumbent government to account, there has been no meaningful opposition to an appalling government for several years, prior to the last election and now. Have you missed Starmer forensically dismantling Bozo the Clown's bluster and bollocks at almost every PMQS held since he became Labour leader? |
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