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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 19, 2020 17:47:25 GMT
Told you if you elected these lying, corrupt bastards they would burn this country to the ground. Want a country that functions in the interests of all its people? Then vote for it. Stop letting billionaire-owned media to convince you of lies in order to steal your country. One trick pony. If you think that those other twats would've done any different you're as deluded as they are. Hurts doesn't it eh? |
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Post by werrington on Dec 19, 2020 17:49:58 GMT
Starmer isn’t Labour Hackett He’s career Labour He needs fucking off, time for Andy Burnham when he's finished playing mayor. Yep ...Labour would of pissed the last election if he’d led the party |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 19, 2020 17:50:06 GMT
He’s had enough but no fucker is going to take this job on. You can see he's had enough of it now, his body language said it all. He can't wait to go and he knows it's the start of the end for him. But he's always wanted to be "king of the world" since he was a little boy. Trained arduously at wanking on a biscuit at Eton. It's his dream job. He always thought he was a wartime PM in actual fact it works out that eating David Cameron's biscuit doesn't make you Winston Churchill. Just a point has anyone figured out how lorries get through Tier4 Kent to Dover when Brexit kicks in in 2 weeks? Omnishambles awaits. |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 19, 2020 17:52:00 GMT
No way can a shitty little village over the border a few miles from tier one Hereford deserves to be in full lockdown
Drakeford you are an utter cunt
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 19, 2020 17:54:27 GMT
I had high hopes for Starmer but he's proving to be nearly as bad as Corbyn. Starmer isn’t Labour Hackett He’s career Labour Neither of the mainstream parties are remotely representative of the majority of British people anymore. They hold the people of this country with absolute contempt at every opportunity. We desperately need new opposition parties and quickly. |
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Post by adri2008 on Dec 19, 2020 17:54:29 GMT
This is simply the government covering its arse in my opinion. They know full well that people are likely to simply go ahead with whatever they planned anyway but now they can say 'we told you not to!' when there is the inevitable spike in January.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2020 17:54:50 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 19, 2020 17:56:05 GMT
Starmer isn’t Labour Hackett He’s career Labour Neither of the mainstream parties are remotely representative of the majority of British people anymore. They hold the people of this country with absolute contempt at every opportunity. We desperately need new opposition parties and quickly. Wholeheartedly agree however your mate Nige isn't the answer. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 19, 2020 17:58:52 GMT
Regarding the New Variant - I know the view is that the vaccine will still work - but is 'the science' saying that if you have had the old variant then you will have a level of immunity - or does the new boy cut through as if we were starting again from scratch?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 19, 2020 18:00:07 GMT
Neither of the mainstream parties are remotely representative of the majority of British people anymore. They hold the people of this country with absolute contempt at every opportunity. We desperately need new opposition parties and quickly. Wholeheartedly agree however your mate Nige isn't the answer. For you maybe but love him or loathe him, he resonates with an awful lot of middle England and the North. I'd also suggest an equivalent party on the left to add balance. These middle of the road, ineffective, bureaucratic, woke tossers with zero understand about business, values and real life are just outright wank for society. |
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Dec 19, 2020 18:01:58 GMT
So, if I travel tonight from London I am legally allowed to do so and spend time away from home..
From tomorrow I am not?
Is my understanding correct?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 19, 2020 18:03:15 GMT
Starmer isn’t Labour Hackett He’s career Labour Neither of the mainstream parties are remotely representative of the majority of British people anymore. They hold the people of this country with absolute contempt at every opportunity. We desperately need new opposition parties and quickly. You and others on here had the chance last December to transform this country for the better. Sadly you and countless others like you blew it. I should gloat and say you were warned but probably best not to. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 19, 2020 18:04:23 GMT
Starmer he’s just Corbyns puppet |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 19, 2020 18:05:06 GMT
Starmer isn’t Labour Hackett He’s career Labour Neither of the mainstream parties are remotely representative of the majority of British people anymore. They hold the people of this country with absolute contempt at every opportunity. We desperately need new opposition parties and quickly. We need you Nige!!!! |
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 19, 2020 18:06:05 GMT
Unbelievable, the fucking cunt wanted this. What’s the problem here? Starmer’s just saying the government‘s messages throughout this pandemic has been confused and contradictory, and we need a clear and decisive strategy. Sir K would have locked us down well before Boris realised his latest massive gamble had cocked up. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 19, 2020 18:06:57 GMT
Neither of the mainstream parties are remotely representative of the majority of British people anymore. They hold the people of this country with absolute contempt at every opportunity. We desperately need new opposition parties and quickly. We need you Nige!!!! No we don't |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 19, 2020 18:07:00 GMT
This will be the tipping point for the "on the fence brigade", which actually makes up the vast majority of the population (to my dismay). Once they finally woke up to the fact that blanket lockdown is an absolutely catastrophic idea, it was always going to go one way. And this is that moment. Let the fun and games commence... Riots, violence, poverty, anger, hate, depression to name a few of the outcomes of this bullshit strategy. Ah the Ghost of Xmas Never has spoken. What will happen is some people will obey the new rules and some won't. Infections, hospitalisations and deaths will increase significantly during January but less than they would have done had the new rules not been applied because of those that decide to comply. So the new rules will achieve something at least. If people don't want to comply they'll just crack on doing what they were going to do anyway. They won't riot. They won't engage in violence because of covid restrictions (they might for other reasons - it's Xmas after all). If someone decides to do what they want, get angry and ruin their day then they are probably the sort of miserable bastard who would have been miserable anyway. Families getting together at Xmas always generate hate - but it won't have anything to do with new covid restrictions. Depression will increase over Xmas because it always does. Sorry mate but Big Nige isn't going to ride his white steed through the adoring rioting crowds on Xmas day and the New Dawn isn't going to break on Boxing Day. It's just going to carry on being a bit shit until the vaccine rollout is complete. And finally a Merry Xmas and a Covid Free New Year One and All - and I genuinely mean that even though I know full well it won't be for some. |
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 19, 2020 18:07:25 GMT
Ok the SE is in trouble and we all feel for them.
BUT why were they not placed in Tier 3 in the first place.?
A total disgrace for political expediency. The government should be asked and the question. Did your failure to place the London area and SE in the correct tier3 category as you did with the N, NW, NE and the Midlands contribute to this debacle ?
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 19, 2020 18:08:05 GMT
I'm going to ask Starmer for the lottery numbers.
Elect a clown, expect a circus.
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Post by chad on Dec 19, 2020 18:09:21 GMT
Neither of the mainstream parties are remotely representative of the majority of British people anymore. They hold the people of this country with absolute contempt at every opportunity. We desperately need new opposition parties and quickly. You and others on here had the chance last December to transform this country for the better. Sadly you and countless others like you blew it. I should gloat and say you were warned but probably best not to. Voting for Corbyn would most definitely not have changed this country “ for the better” Fortunately most of the country new that |
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Post by henry on Dec 19, 2020 18:12:19 GMT
Unbelievable, the fucking cunt wanted this. What’s the problem here? Starmer’s just saying the government‘s messages throughout this pandemic has been confused and contradictory, and we need a clear and decisive strategy. Sir K would have locked us down well before Boris realised his latest massive gamble had cocked up. Starmer pushed for todays U turn, and now he's got it he's making out the government have trashed everyone's plans. Political Wankstainery of the highest order. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 19, 2020 18:13:11 GMT
You and others on here had the chance last December to transform this country for the better. Sadly you and countless others like you blew it. I should gloat and say you were warned but probably best not to. Voting for Corbyn would most definitely not have changed this country “ for the better” Fortunately most of the country new that Country would have been the Venezuela of Europe |
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Post by Davef on Dec 19, 2020 18:13:17 GMT
The irony of all this is that Johnson has been wittering on about how the UK will be a world leader after Brexit, and despite being the first country in the world to administer Covid vaccines, he's buckled and shit himself because European countries have brought in lockdowns which won't make a blind bit of difference.
The sooner he's gone the better. And he can take his excuse of a Health Minister with him.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 19, 2020 18:13:20 GMT
I don't how much of an issue it is but we still don't know how well the Oxford vaccine will work for the over 65's do we? We don't but the snippets we've heard seem encouraging, I'm sure we'll know in the next week or so. As I understand it the phase 3 tests seemed to indicate the Oxford vaccine was significantly more effective in the younger age group but they are looking to see whether it works better if given is a small/large dose and in combination with the Russian Sputnik vaccine . The sensible approach would seem to be to use the Pfeizer vaccine for the old and vulnerable as it appears to be effective across all age groups and the Oxford vaccine as part of a herd immunity programme - which should work providing enough people are willing to take it. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 19, 2020 18:15:10 GMT
Neither of the mainstream parties are remotely representative of the majority of British people anymore. They hold the people of this country with absolute contempt at every opportunity. We desperately need new opposition parties and quickly. You and others on here had the chance last December to transform this country for the better. Sadly you and countless others like you blew it. I should gloat and say you were warned but probably best not to. Sorry? Are you suggesting we should have voted for Corbyn? Come off it. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 19, 2020 18:16:00 GMT
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Post by chad on Dec 19, 2020 18:16:01 GMT
The irony of all this is that Johnson has been wittering on about how the UK will be a world leader after Brexit, and despite being the first country in the world to administer Covid vaccines, he's buckled and shit himself because European countries have brought in lockdowns which won't make a blind bit of difference. The sooner he's gone the better. And he can take his excuse of a Health Minister with him. Jesus. All theses European leaders completely wrong |
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Post by werrington on Dec 19, 2020 18:18:16 GMT
What’s the problem here? Starmer’s just saying the government‘s messages throughout this pandemic has been confused and contradictory, and we need a clear and decisive strategy. Sir K would have locked us down well before Boris realised his latest massive gamble had cocked up. Starmer pushed for todays U turn, and now he's got it he's making out the government have trashed everyone's plans. Political Wankstainery of the highest order. A sign of these grim times when current and ex Man Utd players are the only public figures worth listening to 🥴 |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 19, 2020 18:18:40 GMT
This will be the tipping point for the "on the fence brigade", which actually makes up the vast majority of the population (to my dismay). Once they finally woke up to the fact that blanket lockdown is an absolutely catastrophic idea, it was always going to go one way. And this is that moment. Let the fun and games commence... Riots, violence, poverty, anger, hate, depression to name a few of the outcomes of this bullshit strategy. Ah the Ghost of Xmas Never has spoken. What will happen is some people will obey the new rules and some won't. Infections, hospitalisations and deaths will increase significantly during January but less than they would have done had the new rules not been applied because of those that decide to comply. So the new rules will achieve something at least. If people don't want to comply they'll just crack on doing what they were going to do anyway. They won't riot. They won't engage in violence because of covid restrictions (they might for other reasons - it's Xmas after all). If someone decides to do what they want, get angry and ruin their day then they are probably the sort of miserable bastard who would have been miserable anyway. Families getting together at Xmas always generate hate - but it won't have anything to do with new covid restrictions. Depression will increase over Xmas because it always does. Sorry mate but Big Nige isn't going to ride his white steed through the adoring rioting crowds on Xmas day and the New Dawn isn't going to break on Boxing Day. It's just going to carry on being a bit shit until the vaccine rollout is complete. And finally a Merry Xmas and a Covid Free New Year One and All - and I genuinely mean that even though I know full well it won't be for some. I agree, one Big Nige isn't enough. We need many Big Nige's 😉 In all seriousness, mine and your differing political stance aside, I think we can both agree that reform is needed (excuse the pun) and we need new right and left parties in this country. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 19, 2020 18:18:48 GMT
You and others on here had the chance last December to transform this country for the better. Sadly you and countless others like you blew it. I should gloat and say you were warned but probably best not to. Sorry? Are you suggesting we should have voted for Corbyn? Come off it. Corbyn one of the worst leaders in the Labour Party’s history , it’s like putting Jimmy Saville in charge of children’s services |
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