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Post by Davef on Dec 18, 2020 21:34:15 GMT
News Reports suggesting Emergency ministerial briefing tonight from Downing Street to discuss - New strain - Rising cases Expect tougher restrictions to be briefed as early as this weekend And they're not going to bother talking about the latest NHS Covid report.
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Post by Davef on Dec 18, 2020 21:36:11 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 18, 2020 21:53:07 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 18, 2020 21:56:48 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 18, 2020 21:58:09 GMT
I suppose it's just a coincidence that the flu has practically disappeared then eh? No flu, all covid? No it's not a coincidence. As Andy first suggested, as there is much less social mixing, hand sanitising and social distancing in place and considering the flu is less contagious than Covid then you've got your answer. If you believe that you'll believe anything!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 18, 2020 22:04:14 GMT
News Reports suggesting Emergency ministerial briefing tonight from Downing Street to discuss - New strain - Rising cases Expect tougher restrictions to be briefed as early as this weekend And they're not going to bother talking about the latest NHS Covid report. We are on track for 50,000 cases a day by January thats 5000 hospital admissions if it happened a day less 1500 discharges and your at 3500 net as admissions a day NHS well under water at that point You can argue it’s 10 years of NHS neglect etc but now given the resources they have they have no choice Even a pseudo lockdown 2 bought the R rate down 3 will be longer and much harder they’ve created this mess but they now have an very invidious choice Reverse and lock the country down now to a minimum of 6 weeks of severe hardship or hold steady overwhelm the NHS in 4 weeks and create the greatest public health crisis ever and still have to lockdown even longer and harder .with even greater economic damage Good luck with that one Boris the facts are the economy can’t start to recover until the virus is under control
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 18, 2020 22:08:09 GMT
BBC News reporting major concern about the new variant🤔could be behind the new surge in cases they report
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Post by Davef on Dec 18, 2020 22:08:15 GMT
And they're not going to bother talking about the latest NHS Covid report. We are on track for 50,000 cases a day by January thats 5000 hospital admissions if it happened a day less 1500 discharges and your at 3500 net as admissions a day NHS well under water at that point You can argue it’s 10 years of NHS neglect etc but now given the resources they have they have no choice Even a pseudo lockdown 2 bought the R rate down 3 will be longer and much harder they’ve created this mess but they now have an very invidious choice Reverse and lock the country down now to a minimum of 6 weeks of severe hardship or hold steady overwhelm the NHS in 4 weeks and create the greatest public health crisis ever and still have to lockdown even longer and harder .with even greater economic damage Good luck with that one Boris the facts are the economy can’t start to recover until the virus is under control You haven't read the posts about the latest NHS Covid report have you?
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Post by hcstokie on Dec 18, 2020 22:11:19 GMT
Fantastic news. The logistics involved are staggering. There would be some poetic irony about getting the jab at the Bet365 after not being allowed in for so long.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 18, 2020 22:13:38 GMT
We are on track for 50,000 cases a day by January thats 5000 hospital admissions if it happened a day less 1500 discharges and your at 3500 net as admissions a day NHS well under water at that point You can argue it’s 10 years of NHS neglect etc but now given the resources they have they have no choice Even a pseudo lockdown 2 bought the R rate down 3 will be longer and much harder they’ve created this mess but they now have an very invidious choice Reverse and lock the country down now to a minimum of 6 weeks of severe hardship or hold steady overwhelm the NHS in 4 weeks and create the greatest public health crisis ever and still have to lockdown even longer and harder .with even greater economic damage Good luck with that one Boris the facts are the economy can’t start to recover until the virus is under control You haven't read the posts about the latest NHS Covid report have you? I have I just don’t disbelieve the key official numbers 28000 cases a day and rising 10% lead to hospital admission . As Van Tem said in Oct we’ve already baked on eaths ans admissions . That 28000 and rising is the number they have to use and they leaves them no choice
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 18, 2020 22:15:47 GMT
Fantastic news. The logistics involved are staggering. There would be some poetic irony about getting the jab at the Bet365 after not being allowed in for so long. Great news the way out
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 18, 2020 22:15:53 GMT
BBC News reporting major concern about the new variant🤔could be behind the new surge in cases they report Quick, get under the stairs with your mask on. Do NOT answer the door to anybody!
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 18, 2020 22:18:24 GMT
Fantastic news. The logistics involved are staggering. There would be some poetic irony about getting the jab at the Bet365 after not being allowed in for so long. I'm happy to travel to clock a ground I haven't "done". Forest Green or Salford City for me.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 18, 2020 22:19:47 GMT
BBC News reporting major concern about the new variant🤔could be behind the new surge in cases they report Quick, get under the stairs with your mask on. Do NOT answer the door to anybody! Exactly as I said briefing is tonight expect urgent action it’s ripping through london and the south east is the message that’s emerging
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Post by hcstokie on Dec 18, 2020 22:25:29 GMT
Fantastic news. The logistics involved are staggering. There would be some poetic irony about getting the jab at the Bet365 after not being allowed in for so long. Great news the way out Indeed! I mentioned yesterday it’s like trying to turn an oil tanker. Being able to vaccinate hundreds of thousands of the most vulnerable a day will hopefully soon start to impact those death figures and we can start getting back on our feet.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 18, 2020 22:25:45 GMT
Who counts as "the vulnerable" and is "shelter" something like locking them completely away from any human contact? Or what, specifically? Shelter in exactly the same way the entire population was and is being "sheltered". Stay at home where possible and basically do everything they are already doing. I'd prefer a system like that if we could get it to work but I'd have to see more details and then specific modelling of it because I just can't picture it exactly. You said "everything they are already doing", do you mean basically lockdown or tiers for the "sheltered" people? And is everyone lower-risk allowed out? And who is sheltered? It sounds like you mean basically what we've been doing ("do everything they are already doing") except fewer people doing it. Which in my head means that younger people have a lot more virus and older people will probably have more than they do now, since they'd be carrying on their current stuff but getting exposed a lot more because there's just more virus sloshing around.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 18, 2020 22:28:50 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 18, 2020 22:30:18 GMT
BBC News reporting major concern about the new variant🤔could be behind the new surge in cases they report Quick, get under the stairs with your mask on. Do NOT answer the door to anybody! If News at Ten is right making a joke of it is in my opinion pathetic
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Post by BuzzB on Dec 18, 2020 22:31:06 GMT
I said to the missus after Wednesdays tiers announcements, watch the Oxford vaccine get approved before Christmas. Well well well.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 18, 2020 22:31:33 GMT
Some of the attitudes on this thread are unbelievable
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 18, 2020 22:32:24 GMT
“The safest thing you can do is stay at home”... ... unless of course you think you shouldn’t follow your own advise and wander out to get your leg over...
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 18, 2020 22:33:01 GMT
BBC News reporting major concern about the new variant🤔could be behind the new surge in cases they report World beating.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 18, 2020 22:34:00 GMT
There are some positives. Testing is better, schools are open, there's more PPE, hospitals aren't drowning and the virus is spreading more slowly than at the worst part. Things are a lot worse in many US states. Doing better than a country whose federal government seems to be trying to fuck over its own people isn't that much to shourt about though.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 18, 2020 22:34:48 GMT
Can’t grumble at finishing the night on a rare good news story. Excellent news.
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Post by mtrstudent on Dec 18, 2020 22:35:40 GMT
... Or because anyone who gets flu like symptoms, a cough or a tight chest who happens to go and get tested tests positive for Covid? Don't know about anyone else, but on the odd occasion when I've been knocked off my feet with what would ordinarily be described as flu like symptoms, I've invariably had a fever, a loss of taste for sure (not sure on smell to be honest as when you feel rough, the smell of everything makes you feel sick), muzzy head, feelings of fatigue and in my case, a tight chest as whenever I'm ill, it seems to manifest itself in some form of dry, chesty cough. I appreciate that it's not the same for everyone and that people have really struggled and died from it but flu affects everyone else differently as well. It is also very dangerous for those people who would appear to be the worst affected should they get Covid. Surely the decline in flu cases this year is because the vast majority of people who are experiencing flu like symptoms are testing positive for Covid? For the younger, reasonably fit and healthy, it seems to me at least, that they are desperate to wear having covid as some kind of badge of honour. Flu is getting fucked over by all our precautions. It's shit at spreading compared to covid, so a fair bit of mask wearing and distancing stops it in its tracks.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 18, 2020 22:38:09 GMT
Quick, get under the stairs with your mask on. Do NOT answer the door to anybody! If News at Ten is right making a joke of it is in my opinion pathetic Has News at Ten been right about anything all year? Stop watching it, stop whipping yourself up into an hysterical frenzy, stop stressing out. Step back, relax, take precautions you feel are necessary & enjoy your Christmas.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 18, 2020 22:38:40 GMT
... Or because anyone who gets flu like symptoms, a cough or a tight chest who happens to go and get tested tests positive for Covid? Don't know about anyone else, but on the odd occasion when I've been knocked off my feet with what would ordinarily be described as flu like symptoms, I've invariably had a fever, a loss of taste for sure (not sure on smell to be honest as when you feel rough, the smell of everything makes you feel sick), muzzy head, feelings of fatigue and in my case, a tight chest as whenever I'm ill, it seems to manifest itself in some form of dry, chesty cough. I appreciate that it's not the same for everyone and that people have really struggled and died from it but flu affects everyone else differently as well. It is also very dangerous for those people who would appear to be the worst affected should they get Covid. Surely the decline in flu cases this year is because the vast majority of people who are experiencing flu like symptoms are testing positive for Covid? For the younger, reasonably fit and healthy, it seems to me at least, that they are desperate to wear having covid as some kind of badge of honour. Flu is getting fucked over by all our precautions. It's shit at spreading compared to covid, so a fair bit of mask wearing and distancing stops it in its tracks. It might have been good for all those people who have died from flu down through the years if we’d simply been considerate enough to wear masks and do a bit of distancing. However it appears that a Covid death now trumps any other death
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 18, 2020 22:41:32 GMT
... Or because anyone who gets flu like symptoms, a cough or a tight chest who happens to go and get tested tests positive for Covid? Don't know about anyone else, but on the odd occasion when I've been knocked off my feet with what would ordinarily be described as flu like symptoms, I've invariably had a fever, a loss of taste for sure (not sure on smell to be honest as when you feel rough, the smell of everything makes you feel sick), muzzy head, feelings of fatigue and in my case, a tight chest as whenever I'm ill, it seems to manifest itself in some form of dry, chesty cough. I appreciate that it's not the same for everyone and that people have really struggled and died from it but flu affects everyone else differently as well. It is also very dangerous for those people who would appear to be the worst affected should they get Covid. Surely the decline in flu cases this year is because the vast majority of people who are experiencing flu like symptoms are testing positive for Covid? For the younger, reasonably fit and healthy, it seems to me at least, that they are desperate to wear having covid as some kind of badge of honour. Flu is getting fucked over by all our precautions. It's shit at spreading compared to covid, so a fair bit of mask wearing and distancing stops it in its tracks. Makes you wonder why we let tens of thousands of people die to it each year if it was so easy to eradicate.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 18, 2020 22:42:38 GMT
There are some positives. Testing is better, schools are open, there's more PPE, hospitals aren't drowning and the virus is spreading more slowly than at the worst part. Things are a lot worse in many US states. Doing better than a country whose federal government seems to be trying to fuck over its own people isn't that much to shourt about though. I'm not sure it would be fair to rip every single one of the upsides. But 😎 Testing - lots of tests yes with dodgy results used for the wrong things. PCR? Schools open - now they have to test people before doing lessons and the teachers totally in the dark about plans for next year. PPE - I've lost count of the billions of corrupt deals Hospitals arent drowning? Hmmm Spreading slowly - we've just got a new speedy variant Did I get whooshed? 😁
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 18, 2020 22:42:44 GMT
If News at Ten is right making a joke of it is in my opinion pathetic Has News at Ten been right about anything all year? Stop watching it, stop whipping yourself up into an hysterical frenzy, stop stressing out. Step back, relax, take precautions you feel are necessary & enjoy your Christmas. Yes Tom Clarke is mostly spot on in what says on there.As for being relaxed the only time I’m not is when Stoke play so yes I’ll enjoy my Christmas as usual thank you and thanks for your concern
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