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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2020 11:26:18 GMT
Seems totally normal doesn't it.
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Post by henry on Dec 9, 2020 11:33:39 GMT
I’m allergic to penicillin, will the jab be safe for me ?
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Post by andystokey on Dec 9, 2020 11:38:18 GMT
Seems totally normal doesn't it. Why did the hospital administer it to two health care professionals with known allergies then if the advice today is not to do so?. Presumably because they didn't expect that to happen. I was under the impression that this vaccine was novel and didn't use egg because it's RNA only, so the reason is unclear. 24 hours in and up to 300,000 will now be advised not to take it by MHRA until we understood why. Also they recommend only administering the vaccine in a clinical setting with resuss equipment. That's new advice so it is a story surely.
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Post by bgreen13 on Dec 9, 2020 11:40:27 GMT
I’m allergic to penicillin, will the jab be safe for me ? Take your chance mate. Either die from covid or die from the allergic reaction.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2020 11:43:16 GMT
Seems totally normal doesn't it. Why did the hospital administer it to two health care professionals with known allergies then if the advice today is not to do so?. Presumably because they didn't expect that to happen. I was under the impression that this vaccine was novel and didn't use egg because it's RNA only, so the reason is unclear. 24 hours in and up to 300,000 will now be advised not to take it by MHRA until we understood why. Also they recommend only administering the vaccine in a clinical setting with resuss equipment. That's new advice so it is a story surely. No idea but it doesn't seem anything bar a precautionary measure and pretty normal.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 9, 2020 12:05:59 GMT
Why did the hospital administer it to two health care professionals with known allergies then if the advice today is not to do so?. Presumably because they didn't expect that to happen. I was under the impression that this vaccine was novel and didn't use egg because it's RNA only, so the reason is unclear. 24 hours in and up to 300,000 will now be advised not to take it by MHRA until we understood why. Also they recommend only administering the vaccine in a clinical setting with resuss equipment. That's new advice so it is a story surely. No idea but it doesn't seem anything bar a precautionary measure and pretty normal. It indicates that there are still notable unknowns and the rollout is going to be logistically more difficult. I'm guessing that you haven't seen anyone starting to have an anaphylactic reaction then. It's not normal.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2020 12:35:46 GMT
Seems totally normal doesn't it. Why did the hospital administer it to two health care professionals with known allergies then if the advice today is not to do so?. Presumably because they didn't expect that to happen. I was under the impression that this vaccine was novel and didn't use egg because it's RNA only, so the reason is unclear. 24 hours in and up to 300,000 will now be advised not to take it by MHRA until we understood why. Also they recommend only administering the vaccine in a clinical setting with resuss equipment. That's new advice so it is a story surely. Not really. It’s just scaremongering shite tbh.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 9, 2020 12:37:57 GMT
Reading that Leek has been put into Tier 3
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Post by andystokey on Dec 9, 2020 12:44:12 GMT
Why did the hospital administer it to two health care professionals with known allergies then if the advice today is not to do so?. Presumably because they didn't expect that to happen. I was under the impression that this vaccine was novel and didn't use egg because it's RNA only, so the reason is unclear. 24 hours in and up to 300,000 will now be advised not to take it by MHRA until we understood why. Also they recommend only administering the vaccine in a clinical setting with resuss equipment. That's new advice so it is a story surely. Not really. It’s just scaremongering shite tbh. How ridiculous. It's not a non story if you suffer from allergies, it's important information. It is a non story for you is what you mean. It's at the same level of non story as someone contracting Covid-19 if that's what you mean.
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Post by rorymscfc on Dec 9, 2020 12:50:53 GMT
The two people suffered anaphylactoid reactions which are much less severe than anaphylactic reactions. At a guess I would say they are more likely to be allergic to preservatives in the vaccine rather than the vaccine itself - this is the case with allergies to dental local anaesthetic. It may well be that one of the other vaccines will be more suitable for these people hence the advice for those people to avoid it for the time being.
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Post by thebet365 on Dec 9, 2020 12:57:10 GMT
Reading that Leek has been put into Tier 3 The next review isn't until the 16th so they must have gone into tier 3 last week after lockdown ended ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2020 12:57:33 GMT
Not really. It’s just scaremongering shite tbh. How ridiculous. It's not a non story if you suffer from allergies, it's important information. It is a non story for you is what you mean. It's at the same level of non story as someone contracting Covid-19 if that's what you mean. No, they had a mild reaction to a new vaccine, it's just one of those things. The regulatory boards are being overcautious with it. Happy days.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 9, 2020 13:03:57 GMT
The two people suffered anaphylactoid reactions which are much less severe than anaphylactic reactions. At a guess I would say they are more likely to be allergic to preservatives in the vaccine rather than the vaccine itself - this is the case with allergies to dental local anaesthetic. It may well be that one of the other vaccines will be more suitable for these people hence the advice for those people to avoid it for the time being. These reactions are typically caused by the immune system itself. The allergy organisation points out both are dangerous. "If using this newer terminology, “nonimmunologic anaphylaxis” would replace the older terminology which described these reactions as “anaphylactoid”. (2) One purported reason for the change in terminology was to reinforce the risk and potential fatality of all types of anaphylaxis, regardless of the mechanism of action, as many patients and even professionals associated “anaphylactoid” with a less serious condition.
"For clinicians and patients, the important takeaway message is that anaphylaxis, regardless of the underlying mechanism, is a serious and potentially life-threatening event that must be treated immediately with epinephrine.The reason I care is because my son has dealt with this since a baby. So it's useful and important information to know and not "scaremongering shit" as Bayern thinks. www.worldallergy.org/ask-the-expert/questions/anaphylaxis-vs-anaphylactoid-reactions
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2020 13:07:15 GMT
The two people suffered anaphylactoid reactions which are much less severe than anaphylactic reactions. At a guess I would say they are more likely to be allergic to preservatives in the vaccine rather than the vaccine itself - this is the case with allergies to dental local anaesthetic. It may well be that one of the other vaccines will be more suitable for these people hence the advice for those people to avoid it for the time being. These reactions are typically caused by the immune system itself. The allergy organisation points out both are dangerous. "If using this newer terminology, “nonimmunologic anaphylaxis” would replace the older terminology which described these reactions as “anaphylactoid”. (2) One purported reason for the change in terminology was to reinforce the risk and potential fatality of all types of anaphylaxis, regardless of the mechanism of action, as many patients and even professionals associated “anaphylactoid” with a less serious condition.
"For clinicians and patients, the important takeaway message is that anaphylaxis, regardless of the underlying mechanism, is a serious and potentially life-threatening event that must be treated immediately with epinephrine.The reason I care is because my son has dealt with this since a baby. So it's useful and important information to know and not "scaremongering shit" as Bayern thinks. www.worldallergy.org/ask-the-expert/questions/anaphylaxis-vs-anaphylactoid-reactionsIt is scaremongering shit with how it's been used yes. People panicking their bollocks off about it as per usual when it seems a perfectly normal development, caught early and with measures in place to deal with it.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 9, 2020 13:15:13 GMT
These reactions are typically caused by the immune system itself. The allergy organisation points out both are dangerous. "If using this newer terminology, “nonimmunologic anaphylaxis” would replace the older terminology which described these reactions as “anaphylactoid”. (2) One purported reason for the change in terminology was to reinforce the risk and potential fatality of all types of anaphylaxis, regardless of the mechanism of action, as many patients and even professionals associated “anaphylactoid” with a less serious condition.
"For clinicians and patients, the important takeaway message is that anaphylaxis, regardless of the underlying mechanism, is a serious and potentially life-threatening event that must be treated immediately with epinephrine.The reason I care is because my son has dealt with this since a baby. So it's useful and important information to know and not "scaremongering shit" as Bayern thinks. www.worldallergy.org/ask-the-expert/questions/anaphylaxis-vs-anaphylactoid-reactionsIt is scaremongering shit with how it's been used yes. People panicking their bollocks off about it as per usual when it seems a perfectly normal development, caught early and with measures in place to deal with it. Thanks Professor B. Oatcake M.D. Ill take that onboard.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2020 13:20:22 GMT
It is scaremongering shit with how it's been used yes. People panicking their bollocks off about it as per usual when it seems a perfectly normal development, caught early and with measures in place to deal with it. Thanks Professor B. Oatcake M.D. Ill take that onboard. You don't need to be do you? They're being overly cautious which is just what you want to see. Hence why I don't think it is a story and certainly not one that has warranted the panic seen on some social media.
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 9, 2020 13:22:42 GMT
You just don’t get it do you? The point being made was that due to us not being in Brexit we were able to independently approve the vaccine and start vaccinating before any other country in the world. Congratulations on perpetuating the TPB. I haven't perpetuated anything that the liar did't say. Or his pathetic faux emotion the man is an odious liar. In his own words. "Because of Brexit We have always had this power to approve unilaterally in a pandemic. What I don't understand about this argument, is why hasn't a solitary EU member done this? There are 27 member states and not one has actually moved to approve a vaccine outside of the EU framework. Why haven't they? Either they don't think it's so urgent that it's worth jeopardising EU unity for or, in a Hotel California way, they're not really free to do anything outside of the EU institution at all. Maybe it's just that we're the only nation who were actually able to do it quicker. In which case, Williamson was right, and we are just 'better' ) (that's just a joke, before I get any FBPE grief).
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Post by salopstick on Dec 9, 2020 13:29:33 GMT
These reactions are typically caused by the immune system itself. The allergy organisation points out both are dangerous. "If using this newer terminology, “nonimmunologic anaphylaxis” would replace the older terminology which described these reactions as “anaphylactoid”. (2) One purported reason for the change in terminology was to reinforce the risk and potential fatality of all types of anaphylaxis, regardless of the mechanism of action, as many patients and even professionals associated “anaphylactoid” with a less serious condition.
"For clinicians and patients, the important takeaway message is that anaphylaxis, regardless of the underlying mechanism, is a serious and potentially life-threatening event that must be treated immediately with epinephrine.The reason I care is because my son has dealt with this since a baby. So it's useful and important information to know and not "scaremongering shit" as Bayern thinks. www.worldallergy.org/ask-the-expert/questions/anaphylaxis-vs-anaphylactoid-reactionsIt is scaremongering shit with how it's been used yes. People panicking their bollocks off about it as per usual when it seems a perfectly normal development, caught early and with measures in place to deal with it. It’s been scaremongering shit since post two of this thread
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 9, 2020 13:30:46 GMT
It is scaremongering shit with how it's been used yes. People panicking their bollocks off about it as per usual when it seems a perfectly normal development, caught early and with measures in place to deal with it. It’s been scaremongering shit since post two of this thread Why do you read it then?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2020 13:30:51 GMT
It is scaremongering shit with how it's been used yes. People panicking their bollocks off about it as per usual when it seems a perfectly normal development, caught early and with measures in place to deal with it. It’s been scaremongering shot since post two of this thread Yeah a million odd deaths is scaremongering.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 9, 2020 13:36:36 GMT
I haven't perpetuated anything that the liar did't say. Or his pathetic faux emotion the man is an odious liar. In his own words. "Because of Brexit We have always had this power to approve unilaterally in a pandemic. What I don't understand about this argument, is why hasn't a solitary EU member done this? There are 27 member states and not one has actually moved to approve a vaccine outside of the EU framework. Why haven't they? Either they don't think it's so urgent that it's worth jeopardising EU unity for or, in a Hotel California way, they're not really free to do anything outside of the EU institution at all. Maybe it's just that we're the only nation who were actually able to do it quicker. In which case, Williamson was right, and we are just 'better' ) (that's just a joke, before I get any FBPE grief). I think the EU block purchased 2Billion doses on behalf of the 27. Individual countries can go it alone and negotiate their own deals but I suspect they are standing behind the bulk purchase by the EU hence waiting until next year to get EU approval.The Commission has said that all EU countries will get any successful vaccine at the same time based on a “pro rata population distribution key.” All of these deals also include the ability for EU countries to sell or donate the vaccines to other countries.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 9, 2020 13:37:34 GMT
It’s been scaremongering shot since post two of this thread Yeah a million odd deaths is scaremongering. Most of which would sadly passed away anyway
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 9, 2020 13:43:13 GMT
Yeah a million odd deaths is scaremongering. Most of which would sadly passed away anyway You have absolutely no way of knowing that.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 9, 2020 13:52:58 GMT
All this stuff about the vaccine side-effects will worry some people so they may not have the jab. At this point we have little information on what they might be, but to put it into some kind of perspective, here's the side effects of Ibuprofen.
Side effects requiring immediate medical attention
Along with its needed effects, ibuprofen may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.
Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking ibuprofen:
More common
Abdominal pain acid or sour stomach belching bloating cloudy urine decrease in amount of urine decrease in urine output or decrease in urine-concentrating ability diarrhea difficulty having a bowel movement (stool) excess air or gas in stomach or intestines full feeling heartburn indigestion itching skin pain or discomfort in chest, upper stomach, or throat pale skin passing gas nausea noisy, rattling breathing rash with flat lesions or small raised lesions on the skin shortness of breath swelling of face, fingers, hands, feet, lower legs, or ankles troubled breathing at rest troubled breathing with exertion unusual bleeding or bruising unusual tiredness or weakness vomiting weight gain
Less common
Abdominal cramps stomach soreness or discomfort
Rare
Agitation back, leg, or stomach pains bleeding gums blistering, peeling, loosening of skin blood in urine or stools bloody, black, or tarry stools blurred vision burning feeling in chest or stomach change in vision chest pain chills clay-colored stools coma confusion constipation cough or hoarseness dark urine decreased urine output depression difficulty breathing difficulty swallowing dilated neck veins dizziness dry mouth extreme fatigue fast, irregular, pounding, or racing heartbeat or pulse fever with or without chills frequent urination general body swelling general feeling of tiredness or weakness hair loss, thinning of hair headache hives or welts hostility impaired vision increased blood pressure increased volume of pale, dilute urine irregular breathing irritability itching joint or muscle pain lab results that show problems with liver lethargy light-colored stools loss of appetite lower back or side pain muscle twitching nosebleeds painful or difficult urination pains in stomach, side, or abdomen, possibly radiating to the back pinpoint red spots on skin puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue rash red skin lesions, often with a purple center red, irritated eyes redness of skin seizures severe abdominal pain, cramping, burning severe and continuing nausea sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots in mouth or on lips stiff neck or back stomach upset stupor swollen or painful glands tenderness in stomach area thirst tightness in chest unpleasant breath odor upper right abdominal pain vomiting of blood vomiting of material that looks like coffee grounds wheezing yellow eyes and skin
Symptoms of overdose
Bluish lips or skin difficulty sleeping disorientation dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up from a lying or sitting position suddenly drowsiness to profound coma hallucination lightheadedness or fainting mood or other mental changes muscle tremors not breathing rapid, deep breathing restlessness slow or irregular heartbeat stomach cramps sudden fainting sweating
Side effects not requiring immediate medical attention
Some side effects of ibuprofen may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects.
Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them:
More common
Continuing ringing or buzzing or other unexplained noise in ears hearing loss nervousness
Rare
Crying depersonalization discouragement dry eyes dysphoria euphoria feeling sad or empty lack of appetite loss of interest or pleasure mental depression paranoia quick to react or overreact rapidly changing moods runny nose sleepiness or unusual drowsiness sleeplessness sneezing stuffy nose trouble concentrating trouble sleeping unable to sleep
OS.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 9, 2020 14:05:55 GMT
Most of which would sadly passed away anyway You have absolutely no way of knowing that. You have absolutely no way of not knowing that
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 9, 2020 14:41:39 GMT
You can't beat a remainer who praises the EU's delay on approving the vaccine, criticises our speedy response as "hasty" and yet every day complains Covid is terribly dangerous, killing loads of people and suggests economy ruining lockdowns are the way forward. I mean it's beyond words.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 9, 2020 15:08:29 GMT
Yeah a million odd deaths is scaremongering. Most of which would sadly passed away anyway When?
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 9, 2020 15:48:01 GMT
You can't beat a remainer who praises the EU's delay on approving the vaccine, criticises our speedy response as "hasty" and yet every day complains Covid is terribly dangerous, killing loads of people and suggests economy ruining lockdowns are the way forward. I mean it's beyond words. And you can't beat a Brexiteer who complains about the economic impact of Covid restrictions that voted for something likely to be worse. Strange times indeed. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-29/worse-than-covid-risks-to-u-k-economy-as-brexit-deadline-nears⁰
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Post by Davef on Dec 9, 2020 15:57:25 GMT
All this stuff about the vaccine side-effects will worry some people so they may not have the jab. At this point we have little information on what they might be, but to put it into some kind of perspective, here's the side effects of Ibuprofen. Side effects requiring immediate medical attention Along with its needed effects, ibuprofen may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention. Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking ibuprofen: More common Abdominal pain acid or sour stomach belching bloating cloudy urine decrease in amount of urine decrease in urine output or decrease in urine-concentrating ability diarrhea difficulty having a bowel movement (stool) excess air or gas in stomach or intestines full feeling heartburn indigestion itching skin pain or discomfort in chest, upper stomach, or throat pale skin passing gas nausea noisy, rattling breathing rash with flat lesions or small raised lesions on the skin shortness of breath swelling of face, fingers, hands, feet, lower legs, or ankles troubled breathing at rest troubled breathing with exertion unusual bleeding or bruising unusual tiredness or weakness vomiting weight gain Less common Abdominal cramps stomach soreness or discomfort Rare Agitation back, leg, or stomach pains bleeding gums blistering, peeling, loosening of skin blood in urine or stools bloody, black, or tarry stools blurred vision burning feeling in chest or stomach change in vision chest pain chills clay-colored stools coma confusion constipation cough or hoarseness dark urine decreased urine output depression difficulty breathing difficulty swallowing dilated neck veins dizziness dry mouth extreme fatigue fast, irregular, pounding, or racing heartbeat or pulse fever with or without chills frequent urination general body swelling general feeling of tiredness or weakness hair loss, thinning of hair headache hives or welts hostility impaired vision increased blood pressure increased volume of pale, dilute urine irregular breathing irritability itching joint or muscle pain lab results that show problems with liver lethargy light-colored stools loss of appetite lower back or side pain muscle twitching nosebleeds painful or difficult urination pains in stomach, side, or abdomen, possibly radiating to the back pinpoint red spots on skin puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue rash red skin lesions, often with a purple center red, irritated eyes redness of skin seizures severe abdominal pain, cramping, burning severe and continuing nausea sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots in mouth or on lips stiff neck or back stomach upset stupor swollen or painful glands tenderness in stomach area thirst tightness in chest unpleasant breath odor upper right abdominal pain vomiting of blood vomiting of material that looks like coffee grounds wheezing yellow eyes and skin Symptoms of overdose Bluish lips or skin difficulty sleeping disorientation dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up from a lying or sitting position suddenly drowsiness to profound coma hallucination lightheadedness or fainting mood or other mental changes muscle tremors not breathing rapid, deep breathing restlessness slow or irregular heartbeat stomach cramps sudden fainting sweating Side effects not requiring immediate medical attention Some side effects of ibuprofen may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects. Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them: More common Continuing ringing or buzzing or other unexplained noise in ears hearing loss nervousness Rare Crying depersonalization discouragement dry eyes dysphoria euphoria feeling sad or empty lack of appetite loss of interest or pleasure mental depression paranoia quick to react or overreact rapidly changing moods runny nose sleepiness or unusual drowsiness sleeplessness sneezing stuffy nose trouble concentrating trouble sleeping unable to sleep OS. I got most of those last night when I saw Vokes put the ball on the penalty spot.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 9, 2020 16:08:18 GMT
All this stuff about the vaccine side-effects will worry some people so they may not have the jab. At this point we have little information on what they might be, but to put it into some kind of perspective, here's the side effects of Ibuprofen. Side effects requiring immediate medical attention Along with its needed effects, ibuprofen may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention. Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking ibuprofen: More common Abdominal pain acid or sour stomach belching bloating cloudy urine decrease in amount of urine decrease in urine output or decrease in urine-concentrating ability diarrhea difficulty having a bowel movement (stool) excess air or gas in stomach or intestines full feeling heartburn indigestion itching skin pain or discomfort in chest, upper stomach, or throat pale skin passing gas nausea noisy, rattling breathing rash with flat lesions or small raised lesions on the skin shortness of breath swelling of face, fingers, hands, feet, lower legs, or ankles troubled breathing at rest troubled breathing with exertion unusual bleeding or bruising unusual tiredness or weakness vomiting weight gain Less common Abdominal cramps stomach soreness or discomfort Rare Agitation back, leg, or stomach pains bleeding gums blistering, peeling, loosening of skin blood in urine or stools bloody, black, or tarry stools blurred vision burning feeling in chest or stomach change in vision chest pain chills clay-colored stools coma confusion constipation cough or hoarseness dark urine decreased urine output depression difficulty breathing difficulty swallowing dilated neck veins dizziness dry mouth extreme fatigue fast, irregular, pounding, or racing heartbeat or pulse fever with or without chills frequent urination general body swelling general feeling of tiredness or weakness hair loss, thinning of hair headache hives or welts hostility impaired vision increased blood pressure increased volume of pale, dilute urine irregular breathing irritability itching joint or muscle pain lab results that show problems with liver lethargy light-colored stools loss of appetite lower back or side pain muscle twitching nosebleeds painful or difficult urination pains in stomach, side, or abdomen, possibly radiating to the back pinpoint red spots on skin puffiness or swelling of the eyelids or around the eyes, face, lips, or tongue rash red skin lesions, often with a purple center red, irritated eyes redness of skin seizures severe abdominal pain, cramping, burning severe and continuing nausea sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots in mouth or on lips stiff neck or back stomach upset stupor swollen or painful glands tenderness in stomach area thirst tightness in chest unpleasant breath odor upper right abdominal pain vomiting of blood vomiting of material that looks like coffee grounds wheezing yellow eyes and skin Symptoms of overdose Bluish lips or skin difficulty sleeping disorientation dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up from a lying or sitting position suddenly drowsiness to profound coma hallucination lightheadedness or fainting mood or other mental changes muscle tremors not breathing rapid, deep breathing restlessness slow or irregular heartbeat stomach cramps sudden fainting sweating Side effects not requiring immediate medical attention Some side effects of ibuprofen may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects. Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them: More common Continuing ringing or buzzing or other unexplained noise in ears hearing loss nervousness Rare Crying depersonalization discouragement dry eyes dysphoria euphoria feeling sad or empty lack of appetite loss of interest or pleasure mental depression paranoia quick to react or overreact rapidly changing moods runny nose sleepiness or unusual drowsiness sleeplessness sneezing stuffy nose trouble concentrating trouble sleeping unable to sleep OS. With respect it's a slightly different order of magnitude when you have someone in your family who if they ingest tomato, egg, nuts, legumes of any kind, certain medication and a raft of other hidden items will result difficulty breathing due to restriction of the airway, increase in heart rate and then in death in less than 30 minutes if untreated.
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