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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 1, 2020 19:08:48 GMT
This woke word is getting right on my tits. When you can be bothered to understand where it came from this new version which is meant as a sleight hides a multitude of sins. I wish people would just say what they mean. If it's a dig at anyone interested in issues concerning social justice and racial justice then count me in. When it's used these days as a detrimental term it can mask some pretty ugly thoughts. My personal view is just say what you mean and don't hide behind the foggy definition, otherwise I'll probably assume it's peddling some pretty unsavoury trope. It feels like the same shite people peddled with the word "chav" a few years ago, some self righteous holier than though bollocks. I'm sure I'm not the only one, just speak English instead of some culturally appropriated slang that most people aren't part of. 🤮 Such a wokie. |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 1, 2020 19:14:40 GMT
This woke word is getting right on my tits. When you can be bothered to understand where it came from this new version which is meant as a sleight hides a multitude of sins. I wish people would just say what they mean. If it's a dig at anyone interested in issues concerning social justice and racial justice then count me in. When it's used these days as a detrimental term it can mask some pretty ugly thoughts. My personal view is just say what you mean and don't hide behind the foggy definition, otherwise I'll probably assume it's peddling some pretty unsavoury trope. It feels like the same shite people peddled with the word "chav" a few years ago, some self righteous holier than though bollocks. I'm sure I'm not the only one, just speak English instead of some culturally appropriated slang that most people aren't part of. 🤮 Such a wokie. I knew I'd set myself up. I'll change my username |
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Post by chad on Dec 1, 2020 19:15:19 GMT
This woke word is getting right on my tits. When you can be bothered to understand where it came from this new version which is meant as a sleight hides a multitude of sins. I wish people would just say what they mean. If it's a dig at anyone interested in issues concerning social justice and racial justice then count me in. When it's used these days as a detrimental term it can mask some pretty ugly thoughts. My personal view is just say what you mean and don't hide behind the foggy definition, otherwise I'll probably assume it's peddling some pretty unsavoury trope. It feels like the same shite people peddled with the word "chav" a few years ago, some self righteous holier than though bollocks. I'm sure I'm not the only one, just speak English instead of some culturally appropriated slang that most people aren't part of. 🤮 Such a wokie. Chewbacca ? |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 1, 2020 19:30:04 GMT
Do you mean like Carl Heneghan, Tom Jefferson, Sinatra Gupta et. al. ? Heneghan, Jefferson and Gupta have credibility as scientists but they are not conducting a credible academic debate about the actual science on the internet - they are using the internet to promote an alternative political response to the situation. They are speaking on decisions outside their area of expertise. It's perfectly valid for them to point out that there is a legitimate debate about the science but that does not mean they can tell the government what to do. Again it goes back to how you use information gleaned from the internet. People aren't choosing to believe Heneghan, Jefferson or Gupta because they've analysed the science - they are choosing to believe them because they prefer what they are saying about the decisions governments should make. And that goes beyond their actual expertise. To be fair these 3 aren't charlatans - but I do have reservations about their motives and why they are using social media the way they are using it - do they really expect a scientific debate to be resolved by likes on Twitter? However some posters have provided links to some blatantly obvious snake oil salesmen - including a bloke who gets his information from an hypnotherapist and a failed eye doctor with a hedge fund with interests in quinine. What I'm saying is that people need to refine their skills in understanding the value of the information available on the internet and check for vested interests and motivation. The only people I can see having a problem with that are those who would rather their audience believe rather than think. I personally try to read at least one or two articles a day that I don't agree with for the reason you say. In fairness they've tried to go straight to the PM, published articles in reputable magazines but SAGE and the Government aren't going to listen. I'm just as dubious about the vested interests in Westminster as those outside the Parliamentary cabal. Im a big fan of the "Wisdom of the Crowd" theory. It's a shame that SAGE doesn't have a broader church. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2020 20:06:28 GMT
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 1, 2020 20:07:46 GMT
Worldometer reports three deaths yesterday. According to them, deaths in the hundreds have happened just three times in Sweden, all back during the spring epidemic. I see that Anders Tegnell has been sidelined by the Swedish government. Ok. Their reports aren't always consistent. More than half of Sweden's total ICU capacity is now used. With the peak not yet reached, it increases. Edith: I just saw Duckling's post. Thanks! I thought the "weekend reports" were given on Mondays! Pretty sure they have been. Isn't it Tuesday today? 🤔 It really is about time Edith had her own account musik  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2020 20:12:24 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 1, 2020 20:22:57 GMT
When is the next vote on restrictions, is it 4 weeks or does this last till March? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2020 20:24:06 GMT
When is the next vote on this, is it 4 weeks? I don’t know mate,the so called review is on the 16th |
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Post by rorymscfc on Dec 1, 2020 20:34:43 GMT
End of January.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 1, 2020 20:37:16 GMT
Elite is now something to do with crushed avocado I think. And soy lattes! Don't forget the soy lattes! You only talk in stereotypes and clichés. Boring. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2020 20:49:58 GMT
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Post by Davef on Dec 1, 2020 20:50:33 GMT
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Post by Davef on Dec 1, 2020 20:50:59 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2020 20:53:43 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 1, 2020 20:54:40 GMT
And soy lattes! Don't forget the soy lattes! You only talk in stereotypes and clichés. Boring. 🤗 |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 1, 2020 21:05:40 GMT
Great to see my local Solihull mp vote against. This is a bad day for Boris (and for Starmer). Boris is on the ropes in round one and the Covid recovery group (the key is in the name) will grow and grow and grow. Its becoming pretty obvious we are heading into years of economical carnage and with two of the most hapless leaders you'll ever see in Boris and Starmer, these CRG guys are going nowhere and it's great to see. With Big Nige waiting to push the "go" button on Reform UK its fascinating times. A Corbynista break out group is all we need now to really add to the fun 😂 I'd pay good money to watch question time with Nige, Jezza and the two bozos Boris and Starmer...the audience has to be a bunch of avocado crushing, soy latte drinking anoraks too. No holds barred. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 1, 2020 21:06:31 GMT
11 Labour MPs voted against, as well as Jeremy Corbyn. All our lot voted in favour. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 1, 2020 21:13:01 GMT
11 Labour MPs voted against, as well as Jeremy Corbyn. All our lot voted in favour. Dave are you a lib dem? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 1, 2020 21:13:19 GMT
Great to see my local Solihull mp vote against. This is a bad day for Boris (and for Starmer). Boris is on the ropes in round one and the Covid recovery group (the key is in the name) will grow and grow and grow. Its becoming pretty obvious we are heading into years of economical carnage and with two of the most hapless leaders you'll ever see in Boris and Starmer, these CRG guys are going nowhere and it's great to see. With Big Nige waiting to push the "go" button on Reform UK its fascinating times. A Corbynista break out group is all we need now to really add to the fun 😂 I'd pay good money to watch question time with Nige, Jezza and the two bozos Boris and Starmer...the audience has to be a bunch of avocado crushing, soy latte drinking anoraks too. No holds barred. Not sure why Steve Baker is not named in that list? |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 1, 2020 21:17:07 GMT
Great to see my local Solihull mp vote against. This is a bad day for Boris (and for Starmer). Boris is on the ropes in round one and the Covid recovery group (the key is in the name) will grow and grow and grow. Its becoming pretty obvious we are heading into years of economical carnage and with two of the most hapless leaders you'll ever see in Boris and Starmer, these CRG guys are going nowhere and it's great to see. With Big Nige waiting to push the "go" button on Reform UK its fascinating times. A Corbynista break out group is all we need now to really add to the fun 😂 I'd pay good money to watch question time with Nige, Jezza and the two bozos Boris and Starmer...the audience has to be a bunch of avocado crushing, soy latte drinking anoraks too. No holds barred. Not sure why Steve Baker is not named in that list? “Govt’s analysis should have compared its own approach with alternative approaches - to show the costs & benefits.” This for me is the kernel of why the government has lost and continues to lose credibility. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 1, 2020 21:19:48 GMT
11 Labour MPs voted against, as well as Jeremy Corbyn. All our lot voted in favour. Dave are you a lib dem? No mate. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 1, 2020 21:22:44 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Dec 1, 2020 21:23:33 GMT
Well that's nailed on then. Did Boris's enquiry ever find out who did the lockdown 2.0 leak? Sir Humphrey Appleby asks Jim Hacker, "how many leak enquiry reports, in round figures, have you ever seen? "None "leak enquiries are for setting up - not for reporting, minister |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 1, 2020 21:28:47 GMT
Great to see my local Solihull mp vote against. This is a bad day for Boris (and for Starmer). Boris is on the ropes in round one and the Covid recovery group (the key is in the name) will grow and grow and grow. Its becoming pretty obvious we are heading into years of economical carnage and with two of the most hapless leaders you'll ever see in Boris and Starmer, these CRG guys are going nowhere and it's great to see. With Big Nige waiting to push the "go" button on Reform UK its fascinating times. A Corbynista break out group is all we need now to really add to the fun 😂 I'd pay good money to watch question time with Nige, Jezza and the two bozos Boris and Starmer...the audience has to be a bunch of avocado crushing, soy latte drinking anoraks too. No holds barred. Not sure why Steve Baker is not named in that list? Fine let's throw him into the ring too! |
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 1, 2020 21:34:48 GMT
I wouldn't believe him if he told me tomorrow is Wednesday. |
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Post by hcstokie on Dec 1, 2020 21:35:33 GMT
To do that Labour will have to develop a backbone. Can’t see it myself. |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 1, 2020 21:45:18 GMT
I've seen this discrepancy myself in the NHS downloads from their website, I wasn't sure if it was delayed data. I think we've been looking for this officially in the data and it looks to have been deliberately obfuscated so as to tell a version of a story. If only 25% (296) people were hospitalised because they needed hospital treatment because of Covid that's a big change to the narrative. |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 1, 2020 22:36:25 GMT
Great to see my local Solihull mp vote against. This is a bad day for Boris (and for Starmer). Boris is on the ropes in round one and the Covid recovery group (the key is in the name) will grow and grow and grow. Its becoming pretty obvious we are heading into years of economical carnage and with two of the most hapless leaders you'll ever see in Boris and Starmer, these CRG guys are going nowhere and it's great to see. With Big Nige waiting to push the "go" button on Reform UK its fascinating times. A Corbynista break out group is all we need now to really add to the fun 😂 I'd pay good money to watch question time with Nige, Jezza and the two bozos Boris and Starmer...the audience has to be a bunch of avocado crushing, soy latte drinking anoraks too. No holds barred. Not sure why Steve Baker is not named in that list? He must have abstained that's what he must mean when he says 'No' |
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Post by Davef on Dec 1, 2020 22:51:16 GMT
Not sure why Steve Baker is not named in that list? He must have abstained that's what he must mean when he says 'No' He was one of the two tellers on the Noes side so he did vote against. I'm not entirely sure why tellers votes aren't counted. |
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