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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 17, 2020 11:32:23 GMT
I don't see this as evidence of 'BBC scaremongering' or 'bias' or 'disgraceful' conduct at all. It's been reported that a company has announced something which they "are hopeful" will help with the subsequent development of a vaccine. It's not like they've successfully developed a fully working vaccine which the news media is deliberately suppressing in order to perpetuate the disease for a bit longer. Doesn't seem to be indicative of irresponsible reporting to me. The level of T-cell immunity is potentially a game changer and testing may give us an indication of what kind of herd immunity we've developed and that could impact on the level of immunisation we'll eventually need. The BBC and other news outlets have a duty to properly inform the public about this kind of thing, not hide it away on their website. It's good news but before it has any meaningful impact on public policy there needs to be a mass testing programme and the results would have to show the herd immunity threshold has been reached - without the test results it's pure speculation either way. Well done for finding it on the BBCs news website. Cunning hiding place.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 17, 2020 11:45:53 GMT
What happened to the Normacot thread on the coronavirus outbreak locally? It warrants its own place as it is a growing story of local importance, yet it suddenly seems to have disappeared. it's already been mentioned in this thread I posted it as it is a local issue which could affect local people directly not sure why it has been deleted, surely it has relevance worthy of it's own thread.
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Post by Davef on Aug 17, 2020 12:01:33 GMT
The level of T-cell immunity is potentially a game changer and testing may give us an indication of what kind of herd immunity we've developed and that could impact on the level of immunisation we'll eventually need. The BBC and other news outlets have a duty to properly inform the public about this kind of thing, not hide it away on their website. It's good news but before it has any meaningful impact on public policy there needs to be a mass testing programme and the results would have to show the herd immunity threshold has been reached - without the test results it's pure speculation either way. Well done for finding it on the BBCs news website. Cunning hiding place. I only knew about it because someone on Twitter has spotted it and posted the link. Here's the BBC News Website. Have a go at finding it smartarse. www.bbc.co.uk/news
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 17, 2020 15:07:34 GMT
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Post by DrGonzo on Aug 17, 2020 15:14:29 GMT
Potentially very important news. I'm not quite sure why it is hidden away on the BBC News website though, it should really be one of their main coronavirus headlines. www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-53764640I don't see this as evidence of 'BBC scaremongering' or 'bias' or 'disgraceful' conduct at all. It's been reported that a company has announced something which they "are hopeful" will help with the subsequent development of a vaccine. It's not like they've successfully developed a fully working vaccine which the news media is deliberately suppressing in order to perpetuate the disease for a bit longer. Doesn't seem to be indicative of irresponsible reporting to me. They were certainly very quick to plaster the news about the findings around the antibody responses being short lived. Despite, as estrangedofaye states, this being predicted and not really that relevant outside of a specific scientific context. In my opinion the BBC has forgone it’s usually high quality impartial approach to try and keep up with the tabloids through all of this.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 17, 2020 16:48:48 GMT
I think with a lot of media outlets the big problem with science communication is:
A: Science is rarely binary, especially biology. News articles and snippets cannot possibly convey every single nuance over a topic. Much less what these nuances actually mean.
B: Science communication was crap before the pandemic and this has only been exacerbated during it. Most scientists can spot at least one major/basic error in the vast majority of articles. Sky confusing antigen and antibody for instance is an absolutely huge error when trying to convey information to people who don’t deal with these terms on an everyday basis. This lack of understanding and failure to convey information properly feeds into A, and is why science these days is really trying to push into the public sphere. Twitter has been a blessing and a curse in this regard.
C: The need for a story is obviously the raison d’être of these organisations. The statement “antibodies disappear after 3 months” is a cracking headline but it lacks nuance, and the follow up explanation which most people won’t read or, will get wrong information from as in B.
D: There will be some agenda setters who deliberately combine A, B and C for maximum effect. I would like to say these are the minority, but I know others would disagree. I’m just going on my own experience with scientific journalists there.
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Post by starkiller on Aug 17, 2020 17:04:55 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 17, 2020 17:09:21 GMT
Did they play bat out of hell?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 17, 2020 17:13:27 GMT
I’m confused, so are China now opting out of the Globalist population control plan?
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Post by starkiller on Aug 17, 2020 17:33:00 GMT
I’m confused, so are China now opting out of the Globalist population control plan? They've done their job regarding this for now. Theatre show lockdowns modelled to the world. And as it was pointed out yesterday, they're already pretty controlled, so they can watch as the West catches up with their level of totalitarianism. They pretty much went back to a better level of normal (for them) as soon as lockdowns were copied in Europe. Interpret it absolutely however you like. I'm just putting out there whilst people are currently being treated like cattle across Europe. Over a few cases and hardly any deaths from this supposed deadly virus.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 17, 2020 17:41:19 GMT
It's good news but before it has any meaningful impact on public policy there needs to be a mass testing programme and the results would have to show the herd immunity threshold has been reached - without the test results it's pure speculation either way. Well done for finding it on the BBCs news website. Cunning hiding place. I only knew about it because someone on Twitter has spotted it and posted the link. Here's the BBC News Website. Have a go at finding it smartarse. www.bbc.co.uk/newsFound it in about a minute under Health. The thing is it's very early stages - they haven't developed a viable mass test yet: "The aim is to develop a T cell test that can be easily used by labs across the world, enabling mass testing of Covid-19 T cell immunity to be performed," So basically the news item is "Welsh company might have potential test for T Cell immunity which might help identify the extent of herd immunity". Hardly earth shattering.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 17, 2020 17:48:06 GMT
I’m confused, so are China now opting out of the Globalist population control plan? They've done their job regarding this for now. Theatre show lockdowns modelled to the world. And as it was pointed out yesterday, they're already pretty controlled, so they can watch as the West catches up with their level of totalitarianism. They pretty much went back to a better level of normal (for them) as soon as lockdowns were copied in Europe. Interpret it absolutely however you like. I'm just putting out there whilst people are currently being treated like cattle across Europe. Over a few cases and hardly any deaths from this supposed deadly virus. So the next stage of the evil master plan is to herd all us cattle into Wembley stadium and make us watch a Spice Girls concert? To be honest now I'm scared.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 17, 2020 18:14:37 GMT
I’m confused, so are China now opting out of the Globalist population control plan? They've done their job regarding this for now. Theatre show lockdowns modelled to the world. And as it was pointed out yesterday, they're already pretty controlled, so they can watch as the West catches up with their level of totalitarianism. They pretty much went back to a better level of normal (for them) as soon as lockdowns were copied in Europe. Interpret it absolutely however you like. I'm just putting out there whilst people are currently being treated like cattle across Europe. Over a few cases and hardly any deaths from this supposed deadly virus. That looks great, they appear to have returned pretty much to normal Excellent news, if we're following on behind as it appears, we'll soon be in the same boat. And there you were telling us it would never end....
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 17, 2020 18:15:42 GMT
I’m confused, so are China now opting out of the Globalist population control plan? They've done their job regarding this for now. Theatre show lockdowns modelled to the world. And as it was pointed out yesterday, they're already pretty controlled, so they can watch as the West catches up with their level of totalitarianism. They pretty much went back to a better level of normal (for them) as soon as lockdowns were copied in Europe. Interpret it absolutely however you like. I'm just putting out there whilst people are currently being treated like cattle across Europe. Over a few cases and hardly any deaths from this supposed deadly virus. Bit convenient that, so China gone back to pre C19 levels, I thought you said we were going to see more draconian control?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 17, 2020 18:40:59 GMT
They've done their job regarding this for now. Theatre show lockdowns modelled to the world. And as it was pointed out yesterday, they're already pretty controlled, so they can watch as the West catches up with their level of totalitarianism. They pretty much went back to a better level of normal (for them) as soon as lockdowns were copied in Europe. Interpret it absolutely however you like. I'm just putting out there whilst people are currently being treated like cattle across Europe. Over a few cases and hardly any deaths from this supposed deadly virus. Bit convenient that, so China gone back to pre C19 levels, I thought you said we were going to see more draconian control? It's a double bluff - or is it?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 17, 2020 19:06:26 GMT
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Post by Davef on Aug 17, 2020 19:15:35 GMT
Sadly, there are plenty prepared to have the piss taken out of them.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 17, 2020 22:18:49 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus.
In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what?
I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so.
I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here.
This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death.
I want my fucking life back, and quick.
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Post by musik on Aug 17, 2020 22:30:40 GMT
Sweden to ban face masks? Because they increase the number of Corona cases, they thought. No, I can't see it happen. Pure speculations. But obviously, reports show some people here use them wrong - removing them inside the shops, touching and scratching their faces, lips, eyes after they've touched the items.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2020 8:51:42 GMT
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Post by stroller on Aug 18, 2020 8:54:39 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus. In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what? I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so. I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here. This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death. I want my fucking life back, and quick. I wonder what response you would get if you said that face to face to one of the relatives of someone who died from Covid? I'm deeply sad that you suffer from mental health issues, but I'm sure you will understand that this killer of over 40,000 UK citizens has also caused stress and depression to their relatives.
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Post by Davef on Aug 18, 2020 9:20:04 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus. In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what? I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so. I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here. This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death. I want my fucking life back, and quick. I wonder what response you would get if you said that face to face to one of the relatives of someone who died from Covid? I'm deeply sad that you suffer from mental health issues, but I'm sure you will understand that this killer of over 40,000 UK citizens has also caused stress and depression to their relatives. SAGE, by their own estimations, have recently announced that due to the lockdown there have been 2 non-Covid related deaths for every 3 Covid deaths. They also predict that between March 2020 and March 2021 there will be 81,000 deaths due to lockdown. What would your response to those families be, and also to those who're going to be losing jobs and homes in the not to distant future?
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Post by werrington on Aug 18, 2020 10:13:42 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus. In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what? I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so. I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here. This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death. I want my fucking life back, and quick. I wonder what response you would get if you said that face to face to one of the relatives of someone who died from Covid? I'm deeply sad that you suffer from mental health issues, but I'm sure you will understand that this killer of over 40,000 UK citizens has also caused stress and depression to their relatives. I suffered horrendously with it, was admitted to hospital with it, was off work 8 weeks with it and still suffer from it and I also lost a dear friend to it but you know what he’s bang on the money
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Post by Gob Bluth on Aug 18, 2020 10:18:55 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus. In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what? I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so. I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here. This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death. I want my fucking life back, and quick. Really hope you're holding up ok and things start to get back to normal as soon as possible for you. As a football fan we know the excitement of having all teams starting back at zero points has, hopefully that can help even if it's only a very, VERY small amount. This does highlight though the difficult position that this useless government are in where they're in essence having to choose where we lose lives. The recent infection vs death rates are encouraging and hopefully things can be lifted, that being said in this country we lost a lot of people in the first wave and some form of lockdown was probably needed.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 18, 2020 10:53:22 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus. In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what? I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so. I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here. This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death. I want my fucking life back, and quick. I hear you It’s a con. I dont know what the con is and because I dont know what the con is people are quick to dismiss the “con”. This con is helping corrupt politicians and businessmen all over the world with the destruction it’s causing You don’t need to be a crazy conspiracist to see that somthing ain’t right and how bad the people in power are prepared to let the world rot
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Post by salopstick on Aug 18, 2020 10:56:16 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus. In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what? I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so. I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here. This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death. I want my fucking life back, and quick. I wonder what response you would get if you said that face to face to one of the relatives of someone who died from Covid? I'm deeply sad that you suffer from mental health issues, but I'm sure you will understand that this killer of over 40,000 UK citizens has also caused stress and depression to their relatives. Most of those 40000 would probably have been killed by flu or their pre-existing conditions Inevitable, sad but true
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Post by Davef on Aug 18, 2020 10:59:44 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 18, 2020 11:07:16 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 18, 2020 11:08:39 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus. In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what? I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so. I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here. This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death. I want my fucking life back, and quick. I wonder what response you would get if you said that face to face to one of the relatives of someone who died from Covid? I'm deeply sad that you suffer from mental health issues, but I'm sure you will understand that this killer of over 40,000 UK citizens has also caused stress and depression to their relatives. I do understand, greatly, and the families affected have my deepest sympathy, however so do the families of people who have been killed in car accidents, died of cancer (of which there is going to be a massive increase), suicide, accidents at work, addiction, murder etc. All of the individuals in that list did not want to be taken away from this earth when they were but sadly nothing could be done to prevent it. The world seems to have forgotten that there are numerous ways that humans can pass away, not just from Covid, you could have spent the entirety of this year completely locked away, following every bit of advice to the letter, finally decide to leave your house only to be mown down by a drunk driver, yes it’s morbid but this is my point, none of us know what’s around the corner. We also have the unprecedented and quite frankly indefensibly disgusting position of tens of thousands of cancer patients being denied treatment, which could ultimately save their life or at the very least minimise their pain and suffering, for what reason? This phantom disease that was going to kill us all? If that’s the case, then why wasn’t a single one of the Nightingale hospitals used even at the absolute peak of our infections?. I cannot and will not accept that there is a justifiable reason for blowing an almost irreparable hole in the economy, denying cancer patients vital treatment, driving people to suicide (figures are up two hundred percent), forcing businesses to close, making people destitute and causing a mass panic amongst the public and a huge divide between the terrified and the not terrified, for what is effectively a bad flu season, I know it’s not flu before I get that response, however it is now irrefutable fact that the numbers are pretty much a complete fabrication and the devastation is not even a tenth of what it was predicted it would be. The government in my opinion know this, and do not want to face the uproar of the people if they were to admit they’ve royally fucked this one up, they had a choice of save the economy or save lives, and they’ve destroyed both. We’ve had protests, packed beaches, full pubs, and we’re still seeing reduction in the numbers, enough is enough now, my idea of a pandemic is that you limit the spread at the start and then let the young and healthy take the brunt, not completely isolate an entire population and offer absolutely no concrete explanation as to why, or indeed a plan as to when we get back to normal, other than “Oh we’ll check it in about three weeks, maybe two, or four, fuck knows”. It’s a disgrace, I’m not taking away from the tragedy and the seriousness however the obsession and fear behind this has completely ruined way more lives than it ever saved.
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 18, 2020 11:09:34 GMT
I’m fucking sick of this wank virus. In fact, I’m more sick of the state of society, this for the most part is a mild illness, yet the whole world has been absolutely destroyed in the biggest overreaction I’ve ever seen and will ever see in my entire life, entire swathes of people terrified of leaving their front door, wagging their fingers at people daring to live a normal life, businesses folding, livelihoods destroyed, lives ruined, for what? I’m not going to get into my full thoughts on this fucking nightmare of a year, I simply don’t have the energy to do so. I suffer acutely with my mental health, with a most charming quartet of depression, generalised anxiety & panic disorder, and complex post-traumatic stress disorder, my routine was the only thing keeping me on the straight and narrow and that was completely destroyed, I couldn’t go to the gym for months, which for me helps enormously, I couldn’t see friends, I couldn’t go anywhere or do anything, throw into the mix the company I work for almost going bust as a result of this lockdown (I never want to hear that word again in my life) And adding even more stress to a mind already maxxed out with stress and turmoil it’s a miracle I’m still here. This is the true effect of this lockdown, more lives will be lost as a result of this than were lost as a result of the virus, by some considerable margin, I spent a few days in Prague a couple of weeks ago and it was paradise in comparison, people enjoying life, getting pissed in bars, embracing one another, not living their lives in fear, and guess what? I come back totally fine, yet the media has everyone convinced that as soon as they dare step out of their front door they will be killed to death. I want my fucking life back, and quick. BM, I absolutely sympathize with your situation. It must have been, and looks like it still is, bloody awful for you. And it's important that we read posts like yours so we can get a better balanced view of the effects of this damned virus. I'm 100% sure there will be many thousands who have suffered like you and it's horrible. But like most things in life, there are usually two sides to a story and the other side of the coin is that without the stringent measures put in place there would have been thousands more deaths from Covid. I'm pleased you enjoyed your trip to Prague. A small gift of light in the darkness of what's happening. Other than what I've written, I have no intention of saying anything else. But I will say that I wish you well and you take care of your bloody self! All best, OS.
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