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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 29, 2020 23:00:40 GMT
Hindered us. What sort of a challenge was that today to give pen away. The Luton player was going nowhere
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Post by Fred Merger on Mar 1, 2020 0:13:32 GMT
Villa are in the bottom 3 and still don't want him. I'll leave that with you to ponder on!
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Post by NassauDave on Mar 1, 2020 6:33:43 GMT
I think he's been poor in most games. He's certainly not matching my expectations of him. He's not commanding, he's not particularly good on the ball and he panics.He's no better than Lindsay Just shorter....
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Post by chuckrocky on Mar 1, 2020 7:19:01 GMT
He hasn’t looked any better than what we already have, which says a lot.
I really hope we don’t sign him in the Summer.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 7:29:56 GMT
Just what we needed in the position we are in an un fit overweight CB who needs time , no wonder we are so shit stupid another wasted signing, BMI is a CB who could cover we needed a LB, BMI not leaving is a bollocks excuse, piss poor management again. He has been a flop and and a disappointment and I am sure even our backroom boys who do mega amounts of research, apparently, were surprised at just how out of touch he is. No a half fit Chester was not what we needed and it is an absolute toss situation to be in, but In my opinion a half fit Chester is a little better than the options we have. A fully fit Chester is miles better than anything we have - we wouldn't have got him had he been fully fit and on top of his game though. Bruno would be a bigger disaster in the centre of defence and who would play at LB. Absolute toss management from top to bottom again and the problem is - is that it wont change pre-season. That said - If we do manage to stay up then Chester maybe an asset next season should he manage to avoid injury This season we either persist with Chester or as stated go with rank mediocrity or a teenager - that said would be nice if our captain made an appearance, but he will be in the same position as Chester - as in needing time to find his feet again. All is shite and yes - fecking desperate Wasn’t the teenager our man of the match in keeping a clean sheet against the form team in the league in midweek?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 1, 2020 7:41:45 GMT
He has been a flop and and a disappointment and I am sure even our backroom boys who do mega amounts of research, apparently, were surprised at just how out of touch he is. No a half fit Chester was not what we needed and it is an absolute toss situation to be in, but In my opinion a half fit Chester is a little better than the options we have. A fully fit Chester is miles better than anything we have - we wouldn't have got him had he been fully fit and on top of his game though. Bruno would be a bigger disaster in the centre of defence and who would play at LB. Absolute toss management from top to bottom again and the problem is - is that it wont change pre-season. That said - If we do manage to stay up then Chester maybe an asset next season should he manage to avoid injury This season we either persist with Chester or as stated go with rank mediocrity or a teenager - that said would be nice if our captain made an appearance, but he will be in the same position as Chester - as in needing time to find his feet again. All is shite and yes - fecking desperate Wasn’t the teenager our man of the match in keeping a clean sheet against the form team in the league in midweek? He was a standout performer in a steaming pile of shit and he made mistakes, that he got away with, himself. I'd have played him alongside chester instead of batth but it wasn't a horrendous decision to leave him out. It was pretty much always going to happen. People are seemingly very quick to forget how bad Lindsey is.
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Post by rawli on Mar 1, 2020 7:41:59 GMT
Lyndsey seemed to have turned the corner and was putting in some decent performances. We also had Collins available. Seems the wrong area to target.
What's our record when Chesters has started?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 7:44:17 GMT
Wasn’t the teenager our man of the match in keeping a clean sheet against the form team in the league in midweek? He was a standout performer in a steaming pile of shit and he made mistakes, that he got away with, himself. I'd have played him alongside chester instead of batth but it wasn't a horrendous decision to leave him out. It was pretty much always going to happen. People are seemingly very quick to forget how bad Lindsey is. I wouldn’t play Lindsay again if we could get away with it. Just not sure of the wisdom of changing a back four that’s just got a clean sheet in a difficult away game.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 1, 2020 8:24:27 GMT
He was a standout performer in a steaming pile of shit and he made mistakes, that he got away with, himself. I'd have played him alongside chester instead of batth but it wasn't a horrendous decision to leave him out. It was pretty much always going to happen. People are seemingly very quick to forget how bad Lindsey is. I wouldn’t play Lindsay again if we could get away with it. Just not sure of the wisdom of changing a back four that’s just got a clean sheet in a difficult away game. But wanted it changing when Lindsey and batth were keeping clean sheets because we could see a derby coming.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2020 8:27:42 GMT
I wouldn’t play Lindsay again if we could get away with it. Just not sure of the wisdom of changing a back four that’s just got a clean sheet in a difficult away game. But wanted it changing when Lindsey and batth were keeping clean sheets because we could see a derby coming. Yeah that’s fair. I wanted Lindsay dropping because he’s absolutely toilet and wasn’t playing well even during the clean sheet games, but you’re right, I did want him dropped even when we were keeping clean sheets. It’s clear from MON’s comments that he didn’t really want to play Collins in the week anyway and only did because he didn’t think Chester could play three games in a week. If Collins is ahead of Lindsay in the pecking order now I guess that’s progress of sorts.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 1, 2020 16:49:31 GMT
Hindered, so far. He looks more like a DM to me than a centre-back.
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Post by freddie52 on Mar 1, 2020 16:57:43 GMT
Chester is a fine player who needs games to sharpen up. Collins was on the pitch when the penalty was conceded. It was unlucky, many refs would have waved play on as their player was going away from goal.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 1, 2020 22:12:23 GMT
Put Collins back in,and put Chester at left, Christ anybody has got to be better than Bruno !!! This is all down to the failure to sign a LB in the summer and again in January , BMI is not a FB simple never has been never will be, if the manager can not see that well you know the answer. Clearly he can, it just fell through, it'll happen in the summer.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 1, 2020 22:13:21 GMT
Villa are in the bottom 3 and still don't want him. I'll leave that with you to ponder on! Their fans disagree, and its bottom three of the Prem not quite the same.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 22:27:05 GMT
This is all down to the failure to sign a LB in the summer and again in January , BMI is not a FB simple never has been never will be, if the manager can not see that well you know the answer. Clearly he can, it just fell through, it'll happen in the summer. Is that when we sign a 35½ year old to solve our left back problems for the coming years?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 2, 2020 1:46:07 GMT
Clearly he can, it just fell through, it'll happen in the summer. Is that when we sign a 35½ year old to solve our left back problems for the coming years? Hopefully not, hopefully whoever O'Neill signs will be somewhat younger than that given it would be a long term signing rather than a stop gap like the one in Jan would have been. Half years?? Are you 5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 9:42:18 GMT
Is that when we sign a 35½ year old to solve our left back problems for the coming years? Hopefully not, hopefully whoever O'Neill signs will be somewhat younger than that given it would be a long term signing rather than a stop gap like the one in Jan would have been. Half years?? Are you 5 I'm just stressing that Brunt, O'Neill's favourite choice, will be 36 midway through next season.
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Post by MooG on Mar 2, 2020 17:27:23 GMT
Hindered - which is a bit of a surprise really.
I can see the logic, with Shawcross's recovery dragging on and BMI shunted out to left back; an injury to Baath would have seen us fielding a very inexperienced centre-back pairing.
However, by some alchemy; despite all our back five individually giving you the heebie-jeebies every time the ball came near them, as a unit they weren't conceding many goals, certainly fewer than the Chester including iteration.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 18:22:42 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 2, 2020 21:08:42 GMT
Hopefully not, hopefully whoever O'Neill signs will be somewhat younger than that given it would be a long term signing rather than a stop gap like the one in Jan would have been. Half years?? Are you 5 I'm just stressing that Brunt, O'Neill's favourite choice, will be 36 midway through next season. I don't think it was a long term signing was it? Just until the end of the season, if its what O'Neill wanted I don't see a problem with it, its what he gets judged on he needs to be left to do it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 2, 2020 21:10:14 GMT
The legend that isn't didn't think it was a pen either, but to answer your question he was probably hoping another ref wouldn't fall for it, unfortunately he did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 6:13:46 GMT
I'm just stressing that Brunt, O'Neill's favourite choice, will be 36 midway through next season. I don't think it was a long term signing was it? Just until the end of the season, if its what O'Neill wanted I don't see a problem with it, its what he gets judged on he needs to be left to do it. Thing is we've been trying to sigm a left back for the last 3-4 seqsons - we've actually signed at least 3 - but any long term lb just hasn't wanted to come here.
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 3, 2020 6:53:27 GMT
Too small,too slow,prone to costly mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 7:16:15 GMT
The legend that isn't didn't think it was a pen either, but to answer your question he was probably hoping another ref wouldn't fall for it, unfortunately he did. An experienced player stabbing a toe out in the box towards a player running away from goal, in the last throws of an important game and just hoping a ref wouldn't fall for a trick he knows well and has seen many times before? Oh dear.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 3, 2020 7:58:26 GMT
I don't think it was a long term signing was it? Just until the end of the season, if its what O'Neill wanted I don't see a problem with it, its what he gets judged on he needs to be left to do it. Thing is we've been trying to sigm a left back for the last 3-4 seqsons - we've actually signed at least 3 - but any long term lb just hasn't wanted to come here. We had a LB who was better than any of our "options" but nutty Nath and the transfer clowns sold him for a massive £1m to Burnley
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 9:15:24 GMT
Thing is we've been trying to sigm a left back for the last 3-4 seqsons - we've actually signed at least 3 - but any long term lb just hasn't wanted to come here. We had a LB who was better than any of our "options" but nutty Nath and the transfer clowns sold him for a massive £1m to Burnley But even he often wasn't very good. His inconsistent performances were among the reasons we were relegated.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 3, 2020 11:36:45 GMT
We had a LB who was better than any of our "options" but nutty Nath and the transfer clowns sold him for a massive £1m to Burnley But even he often wasn't very good. His inconsistent performances were among the reasons we were relegated. How do you rate the alternatives we have used since ?, McClean !, Ward !, Tymon and the latest LB option BMI !
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2020 11:43:45 GMT
We had a LB who was better than any of our "options" but nutty Nath and the transfer clowns sold him for a massive £1m to Burnley But even he often wasn't very good. His inconsistent performances were among the reasons we were relegated. Overall he was a good player for us. He was a bit shit in the relegation season yes but compared to what has come since he is far superior. Heaven knows why we let him go when we had the replacements lined up that we did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 13:17:10 GMT
But even he often wasn't very good. His inconsistent performances were among the reasons we were relegated. How do you rate the alternatives we have used since ?, McClean !, Ward !, Tymon and the latest LB option BMI ! None of them have solved our problem. But, as stated above, as we are unable to sign an adequate left back for a prolonged time period, they remain our "options". And our key problem. Or one of them....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2020 13:23:00 GMT
But even he often wasn't very good. His inconsistent performances were among the reasons we were relegated. Overall he was a good player for us. He was a bit shit in the relegation season yes but compared to what has come since he is far superior. Heaven knows why we let him go when we had the replacements lined up that we did. I liked Erik. But in a manner of speaking, he became our first Imbula. Once he signed his last contract - don't remember the exact length or the exact conditions, but it was a very good one - his form immediately nosedived. The odd good game aside, he cost us too many points.
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