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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 23, 2020 19:17:50 GMT
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 23, 2020 19:20:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 19:23:19 GMT
Best fullback option we have and he's not even a fullback.
Its got to be one of Smith, Edwards or *Shudder* Bauer.
End of discussion really.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 19:25:07 GMT
Not at all. His community work is well documented. Is something I could post but won't. Let's hope he's getting his act together as he wasn't dropped for no reason.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 23, 2020 19:28:07 GMT
Not at all. His community work is well documented. Is something I could post but won't. Let's hope he's getting his act together as he wasn't dropped for no reason. I know mate that's why I inserted the smiley face, thought his work in the community at this trying time doesn't mean he goes home has a cup of Horlick's and is in bed at 10 like me! Apologies the smiley face was on another thread but it still was tongue in cheek!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 23, 2020 19:32:53 GMT
Not at all. His community work is well documented. Is something I could post but won't. Let's hope he's getting his act together as he wasn't dropped for no reason. I know mate that's why I inserted the smiley face, thought his work in the community at this trying time doesn't mean he goes home has a cup of Horlick's and is in bed at 10 like me! Well there's evidence that he's a decent young lad and professional about his responsibilities on the one hand and absolutely none that he isn't on the other....except the stuff that Mcmuffin wont post
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 19:33:07 GMT
Not at all. His community work is well documented. Is something I could post but won't. Let's hope he's getting his act together as he wasn't dropped for no reason. I know mate that's why I inserted the smiley face, thought his work in the community at this trying time doesn't mean he goes home has a cup of Horlick's and is in bed at 10 like me! Community service perhaps Personally never was that impressed with him but is young and was getting better. His crossing was pretty poor to say the least but let's see what happens. We all know what MON is like and won't pick him at the moment.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 23, 2020 19:36:29 GMT
I know mate that's why I inserted the smiley face, thought his work in the community at this trying time doesn't mean he goes home has a cup of Horlick's and is in bed at 10 like me! Well there's evidence that he's a decent young lad and professional about his responsibilities on the one hand and absolutely none that he isn't on the other....except the stuff that Mcmuffin wont post I personally don't know the lad but have heard through more than one source he does have a bit of a rep for house parties but then one of those sources told me that Badou had emptied his locker and was on his way only to be named in the starting line up 30 minutes later!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 19:41:23 GMT
I know mate that's why I inserted the smiley face, thought his work in the community at this trying time doesn't mean he goes home has a cup of Horlick's and is in bed at 10 like me! Well there's evidence that he's a decent young lad and professional about his responsibilities on the one hand and absolutely none that he isn't on the other....except the stuff that Mcmuffin wont post You mean you didn't see his Easter Egg rave on the UHNM car park? It was legendary. Smashed up Yorkie Mugs AOTS.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 23, 2020 19:42:33 GMT
Its a shame he seems to have gone backwards, when he first got a few games there were plenty of positives, hopefully he can get back to it and start improving again, re the late nights etc he's young and I can see how it would be tempting and pretty easy to go that way fingers crossed its out of his system.
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 23, 2020 20:21:32 GMT
Such a shame. Last season under Jones he was really starting to develop.
Needs to get his head down now and get in MON good books as he seems to have changed our fortunes.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 23, 2020 21:32:24 GMT
Such a shame. Last season under Jones he was really starting to develop. Needs to get his head down now and get in MON good books as he seems to have changed our fortunes. I think he needs to show some defensive capabilities to get a sniff under M’ON tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 4:27:04 GMT
Well there's evidence that he's a decent young lad and professional about his responsibilities on the one hand and absolutely none that he isn't on the other....except the stuff that Mcmuffin wont post I personally don't know the lad but have heard through more than one source he does have a bit of a rep for house parties but then one of those sources told me that Badou had emptied his locker and was on his way only to be named in the starting line up 30 minutes later! An not going to post something that is a bit damning to the lad that isn't 100 % confirmed, surely even a mouthy individual like yourself wouldn't do that either. Like I said, a player told m ere his activities and also a staff member and would call that pretty good evidence and sure they know slightly more than yourself. He hasn't suddenly been left out in the cold for no reason. Stick to being the figure of ridicule eh
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 4:38:02 GMT
Such a shame. Last season under Jones he was really starting to develop. Needs to get his head down now and get in MON good books as he seems to have changed our fortunes. End of last season was in his best form but was pretty lousy this term. I noticed MON was a bit reluctant to talk about him a few weeks back when asked, hopefully he'll knuckle down and perhaps come back into contention.Let's wait and see.
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Post by theteacher on Jun 24, 2020 10:02:32 GMT
Whatever the situation is with Tom Edwards we have to back the manager’s judgment. He may be a model professional or he may not but either way it’s up to the Club and the manager.
Over recent times we have had more than our fair share of players who have been a disruptive influence and I do not want that kind of player at my club. When saying this I am not putting Tom Edwards in that category because I just don’t know..... what I am saying is the manager picks the team/squad based upon what he knows and what he believes is best for our club and that is good enough for me at this time.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 24, 2020 10:32:40 GMT
I must admit I wasn't very impressed by Edwards in his first games for us and really meant he should be shipped out, but in our 3-4 last games last season he really picked up his game and looked very promising. After this short spell he seems to have lost his way again, and I still think we should get rid if possible. At least we need to loan him out to give him more playing time as things stand now, if not this will just be another youngster who showed some promise but failed.
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 24, 2020 11:02:37 GMT
The manager has said that Edwards simply isn’t showing enough in training to justify a recall. His showing at home to Reading before Christmas was x rated.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 24, 2020 12:14:36 GMT
The manager has said that Edwards simply isn’t showing enough in training to justify a recall. His showing at home to Reading before Christmas was x rated. Yeah, he's gone backwards for whatever reason. He's not good enough to challenge for a first team place at present and needs a loan to see if he can get his mojo back.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2020 13:17:09 GMT
The manager has said that Edwards simply isn’t showing enough in training to justify a recall. His showing at home to Reading before Christmas was x rated. Yeah, he's gone backwards for whatever reason. He's not good enough to challenge for a first team place at present and needs a loan to see if he can get his mojo back. He’s better than Collins there by a mile and made less mistakes than Smith this season. Playing Collins there was a massive fuck up tbh and one of a few decisions that cost us a win.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 24, 2020 13:20:47 GMT
. His showing at home to Reading before Christmas was x rated. No worse than several that £3M Tommy Smith threw in subsequently.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 24, 2020 15:25:38 GMT
. His showing at home to Reading before Christmas was x rated. No worse than several that £3M Tommy Smith threw in subsequently. Smith has had some below par games but Edwards had a shocker against Reading - his decision making was atrocious and his confidence looked shot. I'm not surprised one bit he's been pretty much sidelined since. Smith certainly isn't the best right back in the world but if Edwards can't displace him it says a lot about where Edwards is at at the moment. O'Neil seems pretty broadminded in terms of selection - if he isn't playing he isn't playing for good reason.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 24, 2020 15:34:06 GMT
No worse than several that £3M Tommy Smith threw in subsequently. Smith has had some below par games but Edwards had a shocker against Reading - his decision making was atrocious and his confidence looked shot. I'm not surprised one bit he's been pretty much sidelined since. Smith certainly isn't the best right back in the world but if Edwards can't displace him it says a lot about where Edwards is at at the moment. O'Neil seems pretty broadminded in terms of selection - if he isn't playing he isn't playing for good reason. The amount of goals conceded that involved Smith pre lockdown was verging on the ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 16:24:02 GMT
The manager has said that Edwards simply isn’t showing enough in training to justify a recall. His showing at home to Reading before Christmas was x rated. Yeah, he's gone backwards for whatever reason. He's not good enough to challenge for a first team place at present and needs a loan to see if he can get his mojo back. Two managers have clearly seen that. you're right he was shocking v Reading. Came on as a sub in an away game, forget who against and looked like a League 2 player, he was absolutely dire. He's still only 21 and time for him to put things right.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 24, 2020 16:53:59 GMT
Smith has had some below par games but Edwards had a shocker against Reading - his decision making was atrocious and his confidence looked shot. I'm not surprised one bit he's been pretty much sidelined since. Smith certainly isn't the best right back in the world but if Edwards can't displace him it says a lot about where Edwards is at at the moment. O'Neil seems pretty broadminded in terms of selection - if he isn't playing he isn't playing for good reason. The amount of goals conceded that involved Smith pre lockdown was verging on the ridiculous. Even if that is true (and from the games I've watched its an agenda driven exaggeration) how on earth does it justify bringing in a player who has been far worse this season? O'Neil even played Collins at right back on Saturday - do you really think Edwards is a victim of a managerial conspiracy to keep him out of the side or is it his current form that's the issue? I don't have a problem Edwards getting back in the side - but it has to be on merit. He's currently the third best right back in a squad with two rightbacks.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 24, 2020 17:02:25 GMT
The amount of goals conceded that involved Smith pre lockdown was verging on the ridiculous. Even if that is true (and from the games I've watched its an agenda driven exaggeration) how on earth does it justify bringing in a player who has been far worse this season? O'Neil even played Collins at right back on Saturday - do you really think Edwards is a victim of a managerial conspiracy to keep him out of the side or is it his current form that's the issue? I don't have a problem Edwards getting back in the side - but it has to be on merit. He's currently the third best right back in a squad with two rightbacks. We don't have a single full back at the club fitting of the name. Edwards still has a chance to become one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 17:21:16 GMT
Even if that is true (and from the games I've watched its an agenda driven exaggeration) how on earth does it justify bringing in a player who has been far worse this season? O'Neil even played Collins at right back on Saturday - do you really think Edwards is a victim of a managerial conspiracy to keep him out of the side or is it his current form that's the issue? I don't have a problem Edwards getting back in the side - but it has to be on merit. He's currently the third best right back in a squad with two rightbacks. We don't have a single full back at the club fitting of the name. Edwards still has a chance to become one. Why do you think O'Neill isn't playing him Shiekh? I can't fathom it out. I've been wracking my brains. 1. Young player? He's played Sorenson, Oakley Boothe, Verlinden and even an out of position Collins so he isn't averse to young lads. 2. Can't defend to save his life? He signed Chester who can't defend and he plays BMI, Batth and has used Ward who fit into that category to varying degrees. 3. Isn't quick enough? We have players who are slower. I don't get it.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 24, 2020 17:23:00 GMT
Even if that is true (and from the games I've watched its an agenda driven exaggeration) how on earth does it justify bringing in a player who has been far worse this season? O'Neil even played Collins at right back on Saturday - do you really think Edwards is a victim of a managerial conspiracy to keep him out of the side or is it his current form that's the issue? I don't have a problem Edwards getting back in the side - but it has to be on merit. He's currently the third best right back in a squad with two rightbacks. We don't have a single full back at the club fitting of the name. Edwards still has a chance to become one. I agree we have a massive issue at fullback and Edwards is the only one on our books with the potential to be half decent. However that isn't sufficient reason to pick him - on current form he's a liability and shouldn't be playing. Smith isn't great and isn't going to improve but the fact is he's a better option at the moment than Edwards. Any manager who picks a team on potential rather than what they can deliver in the next game is a fool and won't be in a job for long - unless the season is a dead rubber when assessing potential at the expense of points doesn't really matter. In no way are we in a dead rubber and if we had the luxury of looking at potential we should probably be looking at a younger generation than Edwards anyway - he's shown what he's capable of both good and bad and he needs to demonstrate to O'Neil he knows how to eradicate the bad in training.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 24, 2020 17:54:02 GMT
We don't have a single full back at the club fitting of the name. Edwards still has a chance to become one. Why do you think O'Neill isn't playing him Shiekh? I can't fathom it out. I've been wracking my brains. 1. Young player? He's played Sorenson, Oakley Boothe, Verlinden and even an out of position Collins so he isn't averse to young lads. 2. Can't defend to save his life? He signed Chester who can't defend and he plays BMI, Batth and has used Ward who fit into that category to varying degrees. 3. Isn't quick enough? We have players who are slower. I don't get it. I genuinely don't know but its not been a fair fight is my main sticking point with it. Smith has been rancid at times and seemingly undroppable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 18:02:29 GMT
Why do you think O'Neill isn't playing him Shiekh? I can't fathom it out. I've been wracking my brains. 1. Young player? He's played Sorenson, Oakley Boothe, Verlinden and even an out of position Collins so he isn't averse to young lads. 2. Can't defend to save his life? He signed Chester who can't defend and he plays BMI, Batth and has used Ward who fit into that category to varying degrees. 3. Isn't quick enough? We have players who are slower. I don't get it. I genuinely don't know but its not been a fair fight is my main sticking point with it. Smith has been rancid at times and seemingly undroppable. I was of the opinion that he just fancied Smith, probably for his extra experience, whilst we were going through a tough period and he was prepared to tough out any mistakes he made. However, Saturday and Collins out of position has genuinely thrown me. Rumours of people seeing him strolling around B and Q in Stafford on Saturday afternoon just adds to the conundrum.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 24, 2020 18:11:19 GMT
I genuinely don't know but its not been a fair fight is my main sticking point with it. Smith has been rancid at times and seemingly undroppable. I was of the opinion that he just fancied Smith, probably for his extra experience, whilst we were going through a tough period and he was prepared to tough out any mistakes he made. However, Saturday and Collins out of position has genuinely thrown me. Rumours of people seeing him strolling around B and Q in Stafford on Saturday afternoon just adds to the conundrum. I heard he was at the Driving Range at Rough Close I should imagine people not in the 20 don't travel under current circumstances do they?
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