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Post by jeycov on Aug 13, 2022 18:57:04 GMT
Article in the sentinel saying the club will be forced into the transfer market Clarke out for some time
What about Edwards?
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 13, 2022 18:58:00 GMT
Article in the sentinel saying the club will be forced into the transfer market Clarke out for some time What about Edwards? Harry!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2022 18:58:02 GMT
He doesn’t even play for us.
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 13, 2022 19:05:10 GMT
Why is there an article about a Sunderland player ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2022 19:16:22 GMT
What’s up with him?
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Post by march4 on Aug 13, 2022 19:17:18 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2022 19:17:58 GMT
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Post by jeycov on Aug 13, 2022 19:57:15 GMT
Article in the sentinel saying the club will be forced into the transfer market Clarke out for some time What about Edwards? Harry! I’ve amended it Just checking to see who’s paying attention 😁 Not me
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 13, 2022 20:05:26 GMT
Harry! I’ve amended it Just checking to see who’s paying attention 😁 Not me
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 13, 2022 20:16:15 GMT
Article in the sentinel saying the club will be forced into the transfer market Clarke out for some time Please change the title of your thread to Harry Clarke injury or something. This could actually be a blessing in disguise. Send him back to Arsenal. He’s a good RB but not quite the RWB we need. This is one last chance for MON not to balls up his recruitment for a critical position.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 13, 2022 20:20:53 GMT
Article in the sentinel saying the club will be forced into the transfer market Clarke out for some time Please change the title of your thread to Harry Clarke injury or something. This could actually be a blessing in disguise. Send him back to Arsenal. He’s a good RB but not quite the RWB we need. This is one last chance for MON not to balls up his recruitment for a critical position. Amended
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2022 23:01:49 GMT
Has to use him.
Totally negligent if he doesn’t.
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Post by a on Aug 13, 2022 23:10:02 GMT
Has to use him. Totally negligent if he doesn’t. Hopefully we sign better, he wasn’t good enough before so if he is to play, I hope he’s improved.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 13, 2022 23:12:20 GMT
If it affords us the budget to bring in a keeper then I’d be prepared to see Edwards as the wing back/full back option….
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 13, 2022 23:59:05 GMT
If it affords us the budget to bring in a keeper then I’d be prepared to see Edwards as the wing back/full back option…. The goalkeeping situation is a nightmare. It seems every single club in the land has an at least competent number one. Our recruitment in this area has been awful. I’d have kept Davies and said that at the time
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 14, 2022 0:47:06 GMT
If it affords us the budget to bring in a keeper then I’d be prepared to see Edwards as the wing back/full back option…. The goalkeeping situation is a nightmare. It seems every single club in the land has an at least competent number one. Our recruitment in this area has been awful. I’d have kept Davies and said that at the time You did I and others agreed with it. But there were others that swore Bursik was the 2nd coming, sorry I never saw it. Not that I was a super Davies fan, but I sure didn't feel like we could trust Bursik - yet. I think he's developing, has a lot of potential, but we need experience and he should be working out the kinks in League 1.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 14, 2022 0:53:28 GMT
The goalkeeping situation is a nightmare. It seems every single club in the land has an at least competent number one. Our recruitment in this area has been awful. I’d have kept Davies and said that at the time You did I and others agreed with it. But there were others that swore Bursik was the 2nd coming, sorry I never saw it. Not that I was a super Davies fan, but I sure didn't feel like we could trust Bursik - yet. I think he's developing, has a lot of potential, but we need experience and he should be working out the kinks in League 1. No one thought that. He needed to play so we could have got rid of him. We released a better young goalie than him last season.
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 14, 2022 1:05:33 GMT
You did I and others agreed with it. But there were others that swore Bursik was the 2nd coming, sorry I never saw it. Not that I was a super Davies fan, but I sure didn't feel like we could trust Bursik - yet. I think he's developing, has a lot of potential, but we need experience and he should be working out the kinks in League 1. No one thought that. He needed to play so we could have got rid of him. We released a better young goalie than him last season. I just recall multiple posters claiming he was the "best" of the bunch at the time. (So my "2nd coming was over the top") There was quite a debate between him vs. Davies. All I saw was a young keeper lacking experience/needing games on loan.
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 14, 2022 1:07:53 GMT
You did I and others agreed with it. But there were others that swore Bursik was the 2nd coming, sorry I never saw it. Not that I was a super Davies fan, but I sure didn't feel like we could trust Bursik - yet. I think he's developing, has a lot of potential, but we need experience and he should be working out the kinks in League 1. No one thought that. He needed to play so we could have got rid of him. We released a better young goalie than him last season. And unfortunately we released a fullback in Kieran Coates who’s better than Edwards ever was or ever will be, but that’s the score with rewarding one season wonders with a long term contract on exorbitant wages, a kid further down the line has to be sacrificed for someone else’s mistakes ?
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Post by jokker on Aug 14, 2022 1:48:31 GMT
Article in the sentinel saying the club will be forced into the transfer market Clarke out for some time What about Edwards? An article in the Sentinel isn't the same as official club policy. I would hope if we do sign someone it will only be a short term loan, because, let's face it, this club doesn't really do rbs anymore.
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Post by jokker on Aug 14, 2022 1:58:24 GMT
No one thought that. He needed to play so we could have got rid of him. We released a better young goalie than him last season. And unfortunately we released a fullback in Kieran Coates who’s better than Edwards ever was or ever will be, but that’s the score with rewarding one season wonders with a long term contract on exorbitant wages, a kid further down the line has to be sacrificed for someone else’s mistakes ? I agree about Coiates at least to the extent that he should have been kept and hopefully played ahead of someone who's not a rwb. The reason Edwards, Tymon, and others, pretty much everyone in fact, were given lengthy contracts was because we had seen some players, most notably Nzonzi, leave for pocket money, because with their shorter contracts we had no hold on them. At the time it might have seemed a good idea, but it was quickly discovered how stupid it was, because a number of players, with more money in the tank than they could spend before 100, decided that there was really any motivation for turning in an effort, because they were already paid everything. Moreover there was no bonuses, so all in all the good idea to provide security for the players was turned upside down and became a very bad idea for the club.
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Post by tejstokie on Aug 14, 2022 2:01:44 GMT
If it affords us the budget to bring in a keeper then I’d be prepared to see Edwards as the wing back/full back option…. The goalkeeping situation is a nightmare. It seems every single club in the land has an at least competent number one. Our recruitment in this area has been awful. I’d have kept Davies and said that at the time Same. He was our best keeper. Although the oatcake majority thought otherwise. Bursik and Bonham are league one if that.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 14, 2022 6:34:34 GMT
No one thought that. He needed to play so we could have got rid of him. We released a better young goalie than him last season. And unfortunately we released a fullback in Kieran Coates who’s better than Edwards ever was or ever will be, but that’s the score with rewarding one season wonders with a long term contract on exorbitant wages, a kid further down the line has to be sacrificed for someone else’s mistakes ? A reminder that Coates has signed for Chester City of the Conference North…..
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Post by jokker on Aug 14, 2022 7:02:34 GMT
And unfortunately we released a fullback in Kieran Coates who’s better than Edwards ever was or ever will be, but that’s the score with rewarding one season wonders with a long term contract on exorbitant wages, a kid further down the line has to be sacrificed for someone else’s mistakes ? A reminder that Coates has signed for Chester City of the Conference North….. He has to restart at a lower level. You can't prove he won't make it at a later stage just because he didn't make it the first time.
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Post by jokker on Aug 14, 2022 7:04:17 GMT
If it affords us the budget to bring in a keeper then I’d be prepared to see Edwards as the wing back/full back option…. The goalkeeping situation is a nightmare. It seems every single club in the land has an at least competent number one. Our recruitment in this area has been awful. I’d have kept Davies and said that at the time He wanted to leave. Nothing thehartshillbadger could have said would have changed his mind.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 14, 2022 7:18:09 GMT
A reminder that Coates has signed for Chester City of the Conference North….. He has to restart at a lower level. You can't prove he won't make it at a later stage just because he didn't make it the first time. He could have restarted at Cork City, but he couldn’t get a game…..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2022 7:27:01 GMT
And unfortunately we released a fullback in Kieran Coates who’s better than Edwards ever was or ever will be, but that’s the score with rewarding one season wonders with a long term contract on exorbitant wages, a kid further down the line has to be sacrificed for someone else’s mistakes ? I agree about Coiates at least to the extent that he should have been kept and hopefully played ahead of someone who's not a rwb. The reason Edwards, Tymon, and others, pretty much everyone in fact, were given lengthy contracts was because we had seen some players, most notably Nzonzi, leave for pocket money, because with their shorter contracts we had no hold on them. At the time it might have seemed a good idea, but it was quickly discovered how stupid it was, because a number of players, with more money in the tank than they could spend before 100, decided that there was really any motivation for turning in an effort, because they were already paid everything. Moreover there was no bonuses, so all in all the good idea to provide security for the players was turned upside down and became a very bad idea for the club. Do you work at the club? Are you privy to information from inside the club? My guess is a no to both of those answers, so why do you speak in every post you make like you know exactly what is going on at SCFC? Genuine questions by the way.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Aug 14, 2022 7:32:02 GMT
The simple synopsis is that while MON is still at the boss then Tom Edwards doesn't have a future at the Club
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 14, 2022 8:29:39 GMT
And unfortunately we released a fullback in Kieran Coates who’s better than Edwards ever was or ever will be, but that’s the score with rewarding one season wonders with a long term contract on exorbitant wages, a kid further down the line has to be sacrificed for someone else’s mistakes ? A reminder that Coates has signed for Chester City of the Conference North….. And your point is ? Do I have to throw the same old story of Jamie Vardy who succeeded from non league through the lower leagues until winning the premier league ? Or Ian Wright, Stan Collymore from Stafford Rangers I think even our own Jon Walters dropped into non league football, sometimes you have to take a step backwards in order to take two steps forwards.
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Post by jokker on Aug 14, 2022 10:41:55 GMT
I agree about Coiates at least to the extent that he should have been kept and hopefully played ahead of someone who's not a rwb. The reason Edwards, Tymon, and others, pretty much everyone in fact, were given lengthy contracts was because we had seen some players, most notably Nzonzi, leave for pocket money, because with their shorter contracts we had no hold on them. At the time it might have seemed a good idea, but it was quickly discovered how stupid it was, because a number of players, with more money in the tank than they could spend before 100, decided that there was really any motivation for turning in an effort, because they were already paid everything. Moreover there was no bonuses, so all in all the good idea to provide security for the players was turned upside down and became a very bad idea for the club. Do you work at the club? Are you privy to information from inside the club? My guess is a no to both of those answers, so why do you speak in every post you make like you know exactly what is going on at SCFC? Genuine questions by the way. I am happy to answer. Maybe I should introduce myself to you, although everyone seems to know this. I am the poster formerly known as kpsja. If I remember correctly you and I had a falling out over Eriksen's death, which was entirely my over reaction but not ununderstandable I think. I never knew the concept of ITK till I started participating in discussions here, after lurking in the background for quite a few years, not really reading because it can be time consuming. People are apparently extremely sensistive towards someone like me, so be it. But I've never claimed to be in the exact sense of ITK. I know Nathan Jones took part in discussions for a while, not for long because he was sacked, but otherwise I'm not aware that anyone associated with the club is a participant. Would you think that someone who lives in Denmark works at the club or is ITK...granted I did live in Penkhull once with my gf, and even after we split, I would fly over courtesy of Ryanair but nowadays I just follow the club from a very happy distance. Streams and torrents allow me to watch most games, if I so desire. This is a discussion forum. It goes without saying that anything said in such a forum is the person's personal opinion. It's not the truth, it's just an opinion. That's bleeding obvious, I would have thought. My English is not half bad, but sometimes things do get lost in translation, maybe I should apologise for that once and for all. You don't have to start every messaage with a disclaimer, do you? I use a fair bit of common sense, but it's only my common sense. Another man has a different opinion and I'm happy to discuss, as long as it doesn't get too personal, which unfortunately it often does. Now I read the news very carefully and I remember a lot of details. Call me out on mistakes and I will accept that. Otherwise I will assume that I got the facts right. Again even facts can be interpreted and I like interpreting things. I think the case with the lengthy contracts is common knowledge, so I don't understand why this particular thing is an issue.
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