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Post by karl on Oct 3, 2020 15:31:32 GMT
Best to loan him out so he can refocus and come back stronger, fitter and with a better attitude if the speculation is true.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 3, 2020 16:01:15 GMT
How long do you test him for though if he’s showing no signs currently? A sink or swim loan at least gets him minutes. I dont think there's any harm in trying him out til January, then you could loan, that's a few months! As I said earlier - it's a managers job to bring the potential out of players, not just (for whatever reason) block youngsters out when things aren't perfect. It is up to a point, but the whole ‘lead a horse to water’ thing applies as well. First and foremost it’s up to the player, and if he isn’t doing what he needs to - and it sounds like he isn’t - it’s on Edwards, nobody else.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 3, 2020 16:03:11 GMT
I'd prefer a permanent move for Tom, will never be the player some people think he will.
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Post by werrington on Oct 3, 2020 16:07:56 GMT
I'd prefer a permanent move for Tom, will never be the player some people think he will. And you know this how exactly?
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 3, 2020 16:10:29 GMT
I'd prefer a permanent move for Tom, will never be the player some people think he will. And you know this how exactly? It's an opinion, but will be very surprised if I'm wrong on this one! Will not be the first time anyway!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 21:23:11 GMT
Not if he isn't training well or staying fit. MON takes no prisoners, even McClean got dropped by him. There'll be times when the fans don't like it, I bet he'd never have played Bojan, but it's necessary and you need someone with the stones to do it. If MON wouldn't play bojjer then he's just as thick as the others who didnt know who to use him properly. He's already dropped TE, so at this point it's point made. Smith has no resale value, is average at this level and can't cross as well. I get bored of saying it but TE is a midfielder first and foremost, fullback second. It's not just "cram him at fullback or fuck him off" He's absolutely good enough and needs managing. Fucking him off to Hull is just lazy and shit "management" You're talking absolute shit mate, the whole point being made is that his fitness and work ethic have not been good enough. So long as that's the case he should be nowhere near the team, look at our team spirit by the end of Hughes' tenure... That's what happens when you don't give a toss about how players train or look after their fitness.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 4, 2020 7:03:08 GMT
By my calculations if MON can make Tymon look like a serious asset he’ll be able to turn Tom into the next Trent Alexander Arnold.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 4, 2020 7:14:15 GMT
Sick of hearing about him and not seeing him. Just one episode of coming back how he did is enough for me to say fuck him off.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 4, 2020 7:18:42 GMT
Sick of hearing about him and not seeing him. Just one episode of coming back how he did is enough for me to say fuck him off. I bet you always loved Tymon though, didn't you?
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Post by sportsman on Oct 4, 2020 11:33:59 GMT
Sick of hearing about him and not seeing him. Just one episode of coming back how he did is enough for me to say fuck him off. I bet you always loved Tymon though, didn't you? Why?
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Post by theteacher on Oct 4, 2020 11:43:51 GMT
It’s all about attitude. Went into lockdown and didn’t lockdown (as I understand it). Had an accident on the M6 at around 3am returning from Manchester with his girlfriend in the car (this at the height of the lockdown). I understand that he received a total bollxxxxing from the Club (Scholes). He returned from lockdown unfit and it says it all about attitude.
Current girlfriend a former girlfriend of a footballer at another Club. Billy big bollxxxs is how he is seen.
Looks like he burned his bridges with the Club because of his attitude - thinking he made it before he did anything.
All allegedly of course.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 11:56:30 GMT
It’s all about attitude. Went into lockdown and didn’t lockdown (as I understand it). Had an accident on the M6 at around 3am returning from Manchester with his girlfriend in the car (this at the height of the lockdown). I understand that he received a total bollxxxxing from the Club (Scholes). He returned from lockdown unfit and it says it all about attitude. Current girlfriend a former girlfriend of a footballer at another Club. Billy big bollxxxs is how he is seen. Looks like he burned his bridges with the Club because of his attitude - thinking he made it before he did anything. All allegedly of course. He gets viewed favourably as he's 'one of our own'. If he really is one of our own, and cares for the club as he should, he should have conducted himself way better than he has. He could have a chat with Andy Wilkinson, if he needs a role model (he shouldn't, he's an adult). He's one of those that seems to have had too much, too easy, too soon. A billy big bollocks, like you say. Can you imagine? "Do you know who I am? I was part of Stoke's worst side in recent memory". I couldn't care less where he's from, if he wants to prioritise being 'Party Boy', f$%k him.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 4, 2020 13:18:17 GMT
Doubt he'll play for Stoke again!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 4, 2020 16:42:01 GMT
Sounds like he’s going out on loan listening to Gary Mellor just
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Post by Fred Merger on Oct 4, 2020 16:46:57 GMT
Sounds like he’s going out on loan listening to Gary Mellor just Probably best all round.
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Post by brief on Oct 5, 2020 9:29:47 GMT
To clarify Tom did not have an accident at 3am with his girlfriend in the car. Those that know me are aware that i very rarely come on to the forum to defend my players but i draw the line at people making an attempt to damage his reputation. It is factually correct that the Manager felt he should have come back fitter after lockdown but no one has worked harder to come back in to this pre season fitter than ever. Some of the Coaches are concerned that he has lost too much weight.
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Post by pez75 on Oct 5, 2020 10:01:43 GMT
To clarify Tom did not have an accident at 3am with his girlfriend in the car. Those that know me are aware that i very rarely come on to the forum to defend my players but i draw the line at people making an attempt to damage his reputation. It is factually correct that the Manager felt he should have come back fitter after lockdown but no one has worked harder to come back in to this pre season fitter than ever. Some of the Coaches are concerned that he has lost too much weight. Typical Oatcake bullshit - people come on here with gossip and peddle it as fact and worse, it sticks. Can be very dangerous. A lot of half-wits will remember those comments and not yours and it becomes set in stone. "Edwards is a piss-head" "Powell hates Stoke" "BMI wants to leave" Stick to the facts please, I am sure that OUR players would be devastated if they thought that genuine fans actually believed some of the shite thats made up...
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Oct 5, 2020 10:40:57 GMT
To clarify Tom did not have an accident at 3am with his girlfriend in the car. Those that know me are aware that i very rarely come on to the forum to defend my players but i draw the line at people making an attempt to damage his reputation. It is factually correct that the Manager felt he should have come back fitter after lockdown but no one has worked harder to come back in to this pre season fitter than ever. Some of the Coaches are concerned that he has lost too much weight. He obviously hasn't worked harder than other players to come back fitter, , your player,
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Post by scfcstevie on Oct 5, 2020 11:23:19 GMT
To clarify Tom did not have an accident at 3am with his girlfriend in the car. Those that know me are aware that i very rarely come on to the forum to defend my players but i draw the line at people making an attempt to damage his reputation. It is factually correct that the Manager felt he should have come back fitter after lockdown but no one has worked harder to come back in to this pre season fitter than ever. Some of the Coaches are concerned that he has lost too much weight. He obviously hasn't worked harder than other players to come back fitter, , your player, Is that you Mr Mellor
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 14, 2020 13:30:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 13:47:45 GMT
To clarify Tom did not have an accident at 3am with his girlfriend in the car. Those that know me are aware that i very rarely come on to the forum to defend my players but i draw the line at people making an attempt to damage his reputation. It is factually correct that the Manager felt he should have come back fitter after lockdown but no one has worked harder to come back in to this pre season fitter than ever. Some of the Coaches are concerned that he has lost too much weight. Typical Oatcake bullshit - people come on here with gossip and peddle it as fact and worse, it sticks. Can be very dangerous. A lot of half-wits will remember those comments and not yours and it becomes set in stone. "Edwards is a piss-head" "Powell hates Stoke" "BMI wants to leave" Stick to the facts please, I am sure that OUR players would be devastated if they thought that genuine fans actually believed some of the shite thats made up... to be fair I don't think anyone actually believed that as one or two on here know members of his family and he was very keen to come Totally take your point though.an example earlier of someone calling out a player's attitude without having a clue and talking utter nonsense . Nick Powell was worried about the reception he would get and turned down a prem move to stay local
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 14, 2020 13:52:50 GMT
If he does go on loan, wonder where he'll end up?
League One?
Hull have previously been mentioned - but they have subsequently bought two new right-backs, so they look to be off the list of potentials...
(presumably if he does go to a club down the leagues, they won't get near to covering his whole salary)
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 14, 2020 14:02:41 GMT
To clarify Tom did not have an accident at 3am with his girlfriend in the car. Those that know me are aware that i very rarely come on to the forum to defend my players but i draw the line at people making an attempt to damage his reputation. It is factually correct that the Manager felt he should have come back fitter after lockdown but no one has worked harder to come back in to this pre season fitter than ever. Some of the Coaches are concerned that he has lost too much weight. Typical Oatcake bullshit - people come on here with gossip and peddle it as fact and worse, it sticks. Can be very dangerous. A lot of half-wits will remember those comments and not yours and it becomes set in stone. "Edwards is a piss-head" "Powell hates Stoke" "BMI wants to leave" Stick to the facts please, I am sure that OUR players would be devastated if they thought that genuine fans actually believed some of the shite thats made up... Not all rumours are made up, and quite a few have a basis of truth. "Edwards is a piss-head" I don't believe for one minute Tom is a "piss-head" but as a young successful footballer he certainly liked a drink or 2 with the "lads" - I know more but would never say some things on a public message board. "Powell hates Stoke" He absolutely doesn't, he knows what a privileged position he's in and where it all started - I know more but would never say some things on a public message board. "BMI wants to leave" More than a rumour it turned out to be completely true. I didn't know any more about this and even if I did I wouldn't have posted it on a public message board. So you see some of it maybe "shite" but then again there might just be some truth hidden amongst it all. Most people will believe what they want to believe anyway. Gouranga.
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Post by madnellie on Oct 14, 2020 14:32:43 GMT
I can't see past the dog in a Stoke shirt 😂
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 14:36:44 GMT
Typical Oatcake bullshit - people come on here with gossip and peddle it as fact and worse, it sticks. Can be very dangerous. A lot of half-wits will remember those comments and not yours and it becomes set in stone. "Edwards is a piss-head" "Powell hates Stoke" "BMI wants to leave" Stick to the facts please, I am sure that OUR players would be devastated if they thought that genuine fans actually believed some of the shite thats made up... Not all rumours are made up, and quite a few have a basis of truth. "Edwards is a piss-head" I don't believe for one minute Tom is a "piss-head" but as a young successful footballer he certainly liked a drink or 2 with the "lads" - I know more but would never say some things on a public message board. "Powell hates Stoke" He absolutely doesn't, he knows what a privileged position he's in and where it all started - I know more but would never say some things on a public message board. "BMI wants to leave" More than a rumour it turned out to be completely true. I didn't know any more about this and even if I did I wouldn't have posted it on a public message board. So you see some of it maybe "shite" but then again there might just be some truth hidden amongst it all. Most people will believe what they want to believe anyway. Gouranga. .I remember a certain person on here, saw them posting yesterday saying the same about James O'Connor ,pissed up all the time in Newcastle, falling over et,, a second glass of Pepsi was a wild night for him.as he never touched alcohol. A little bit of truth with Edwards I believe but nothing like the concourse talk and like you said, wrong to speculate
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Post by ceejays on Oct 14, 2020 14:41:57 GMT
I’ve posted this before but Tom Edwards lived a few doors away from my father in law on Highfields Stafford. As a young boy (aged 12) he was a bit of a tearaway and threw a brick through my father in law’s car window. He’s often seen in his Mercedes parked outside his mums in various off road positions. Still seems not to have grown up
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Post by flea79 on Oct 14, 2020 14:48:33 GMT
"Powell hates Stoke" He absolutely doesn't, he knows what a privileged position he's in and where it all started - I know more but would never say some things on a public message board. Gouranga. I was at Sandbach School at the same time as Powell, and will sadly confirm that Powell used to voice his hatred of stoke a lot, he was a young lad then and maybe has grown up now but he did indeed hate stoke
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 14, 2020 14:56:07 GMT
"I was at Sandbach School at the same time as Powell, and will sadly confirm that Powell used to voice his hatred of stoke a lot, he was a young lad then and maybe has grown up now but he did indeed hate stoke" Does this indicate that you might be a Stoke glory hunter? Whatever happened to supporting your local team, be it Sandbach Ramblers as was, or even Sandbach United?
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Post by fulagoals on Oct 14, 2020 17:22:14 GMT
Does this indicate that you might be a Stoke glory hunter? Whatever happened to supporting your local team, be it Sandbach Ramblers as was, or even Sandbach United? Some people hey! I bet he is a glory hunter. That said I have a soft spot for Yeovil Town wherever they are based🙄😉
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Oct 14, 2020 17:33:19 GMT
Typical Oatcake bullshit - people come on here with gossip and peddle it as fact and worse, it sticks. Can be very dangerous. A lot of half-wits will remember those comments and not yours and it becomes set in stone. "Edwards is a piss-head" "Powell hates Stoke" "BMI wants to leave" Stick to the facts please, I am sure that OUR players would be devastated if they thought that genuine fans actually believed some of the shite thats made up... Not all rumours are made up, and quite a few have a basis of truth. "Edwards is a piss-head" I don't believe for one minute Tom is a "piss-head" but as a young successful footballer he certainly liked a drink or 2 with the "lads" - I know more but would never say some things on a public message board. "Powell hates Stoke" He absolutely doesn't, he knows what a privileged position he's in and where it all started - I know more but would never say some things on a public message board. "BMI wants to leave" More than a rumour it turned out to be completely true. I didn't know any more about this and even if I did I wouldn't have posted it on a public message board. So you see some of it maybe "shite" but then again there might just be some truth hidden amongst it all. Most people will believe what they want to believe anyway. Gouranga. I don’t get why people say they know such and such, but then say they can’t say more, or they can’t mention their source? If they’re that bothered about posting stuff online, then why say anything at all? Just comes across as an ego boost. ‘I know something you don’t know’
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