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Campbell
Sept 12, 2020 18:04:37 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 12, 2020 18:04:37 GMT
Campbell was actually pretty ineffectual today and his first touch in particular was poor. Hopefully just a one off but many more games like that and Brown will be starting instead of him. Yeah his first touch was noticeably poor today.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 12, 2020 18:39:37 GMT
Him and Fletcher up top together please.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 12, 2020 18:43:16 GMT
I really like Ty and have a lot of belief in him, but he looked knackered after 60 minutes today again.
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Post by damagedswan on Sept 12, 2020 18:46:07 GMT
I’m more and more convinced Campbell just won’t fit into a Michael O’Neil team he’s really poor with his back to goal and hold up play is really poor, that’s generally how O’Neil always wants to feed the forwards, if he continues with Campbell he will have to play out wide (where he’s been excellent Tbf ) O'Neill has played a few different systems, some of have brought the best out of him, and others (like today's) don't at all suit him. It's still completely up in the air which he will eventually favour (if, in fact, he will settle on one at all).
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 12, 2020 18:47:05 GMT
He can obviously finish but his fitness definitely needs improving.
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Campbell
Sept 12, 2020 18:52:41 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 12, 2020 18:52:41 GMT
Was he really the problem of the starting attackers today?!
I'll just conclude I'm watching a different sport I think.
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 12, 2020 20:23:18 GMT
Was he really the problem of the starting attackers today?! I'll just conclude I'm watching a different sport I think. Yes. OK.
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Post by BuzzB on Sept 12, 2020 20:27:28 GMT
Was he really the problem of the starting attackers today?! I'll just conclude I'm watching a different sport I think. should have left Ty on and took Vokes off, the Vokes / Fletcher thing looked awful and is never going to work. I bet Brown and Campbell up top will give a few nightmares to some defences, won't happen though as MON obviously loves a target man.
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 12, 2020 20:30:07 GMT
Fletcher & Vokes. Please never ever again together!!!. Was Gregory injured?
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Post by drfootball on Sept 12, 2020 20:31:25 GMT
Never would Scholes negotiate a contract that means the club miss out on potential huge profits.....................oh of course I was forgetting Shaq Not this shaqiri nonsense again 🤷♂️ It’s only been pointed out on countless occasions Don't forget the N'Zonzi shite too.
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Campbell
Sept 12, 2020 21:01:23 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Sept 12, 2020 21:01:23 GMT
Some people can play with their back to goal, hence the term target man; Fletcher looks like he can do it, Vokes sometimes. Campbell isn’t a target man and needs the ball in front of him and preferably to his feet; imagine Michael Owen as a target man; wouldn’t work would it?
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Campbell
Sept 12, 2020 21:19:10 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 12, 2020 21:19:10 GMT
Was he really the problem of the starting attackers today?! I'll just conclude I'm watching a different sport I think. Yes. OK. Cheers Sam. Keep on trucking.... very very slowly and very very predictably.
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Post by blackpoolred on Sept 12, 2020 21:20:14 GMT
His goals and performances kept us up last year and he is going to be a key part of our season this year. Looked like the only person who could do something special today.
His link-up play and first touch need to improve and he needs to get more involved - frustratingly goes missing for long periods of the game and needs to work on his fitness, sharpness and look at getting a mind coach - he has the potential to be special but so do quite a few other people in the sporting arena - very few realise their potential - let us hope he is an exception to the rule and we are lucky enough to get a few years out of him at his best in a Stoke shirt.
That said, don't see MON as a manager who will put up with players who cant take responsibility for their own fitness, who are a bit hit and miss and who don't perform on a regular basis and put a shift in - so lots of areas to improve on if he is even to be a regular in a Stoke shirt and earn the trust of his manager
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Campbell
Sept 12, 2020 22:35:45 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 12, 2020 22:35:45 GMT
Cheers Sam. Keep on trucking.... very very slowly and very very predictably. My god you're a bit obsessed with him aren't you?
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Post by datguy on Sept 12, 2020 22:40:10 GMT
Poor game but I don't think it was his fault.
I'm not convinced this 5 at the back stuff suits him to be honest. Or at least it doesn't with Vokes as his partner.
He's at his best when he's on the wing with Powell and the striker playing close to him. Funnily enough that's when we're at our best as well...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 12, 2020 22:55:36 GMT
Cheers Sam. Keep on trucking.... very very slowly and very very predictably. My god you're a bit obsessed with him aren't you? bgreen13 34 posts Come on Kendo, take the mask off!
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Campbell
Sept 12, 2020 22:57:54 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 12, 2020 22:57:54 GMT
My god you're a bit obsessed with him aren't you? bgreen13 34 posts Come on Kendo, take the mask off! Sheikmomo pushing 40k posts, 80% of them slagging off Vokes. What's your point?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 12, 2020 23:01:52 GMT
bgreen13 34 posts Come on Kendo, take the mask off! Sheikmomo pushing 40k posts, 80% of them slagging off Vokes. What's your point? Over 15 years, of which, Vokes (thankfully) wasn't our player for 13 of them Come on bgreen13. Just 'who' are you Be honest now
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Campbell
Sept 12, 2020 23:03:38 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 12, 2020 23:03:38 GMT
bgreen13 34 posts Come on Kendo, take the mask off! Sheikmomo pushing 40k posts, 80% of them slagging off Vokes. What's your point? I’ve had that shite off him before mate. Ignore it
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 12, 2020 23:05:43 GMT
Campbell has had his best games for us on the right of a front 3, with Powell at no.10 - so has Powell, in fact. 352 suits neither. It also doesn't suit player of the season McClean.
There are three reasons already to revert to 4231.
Today's wing backs are really just decent full backs, who can do a solid job in a back four, but are not pacey or adventurous enough to play as wing backs. See - there's a fourth.........
His work rate and fitness will be shown up by Brown the duracell bunny, who could well take his place if he does not put some effort in to improve both. He comes alive in the box with the ball at his feet, and is a gifted and natural finisher, but it seems MON will demand a "defend from the front" worth ethic from his strikers. Tye will, I am sure, know what is expected of him, so it is down to him now.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 12, 2020 23:07:07 GMT
Sheikmomo pushing 40k posts, 80% of them slagging off Vokes. What's your point? I’ve had that shite off him before mate. Ignore it Bless.
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Post by spitshaw on Sept 12, 2020 23:32:17 GMT
Campbell has had his best games for us on the right of a front 3, with Powell at no.10 - so has Powell, in fact. 352 suits neither. It also doesn't suit player of the season McClean. There are three reasons already to revert to 4231. Today's wing backs are really just decent full backs, who can do a solid job in a back four, but are not pacey or adventurous enough to play as wing backs. See - there's a fourth......... His work rate and fitness will be shown up by Brown the duracell bunny, who could well take his place if he does not put some effort in to improve both. He comes alive in the box with the ball at his feet, and is a gifted and natural finisher, but it seems MON will demand a "defend from the front" worth ethic from his strikers. Tye will, I am sure, know what is expected of him, so it is down to him now. 4 points that need nailing to MON's head. Hopefully we revert to 4231 for home games
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Post by biglad180 on Sept 13, 2020 8:59:36 GMT
Tyrese is the best goalscorer we have and for me he must play in as many games as he can the goals will come he is a natural goalscorer i dont care if people think he can do more, he is always a treat on goal. him fletcher and vokes will get us the goals this time
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Campbell
Sept 13, 2020 10:11:23 GMT
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 13, 2020 10:11:23 GMT
It is my opinion that Campbell can score some very good goals and finishes well. Do I want his Stoke's first eleven? No! I do not think that he is even that fast. Yesterday his performance was awful. His contribution was poor also. I can only think MON has him starting in the hope he scores one of his super goals in the hope a good bid might come in for him. Brown is not a forward but when he came on he made Campbell look slow. Stoke may have quite a few strikers at their disposal but at the moment we need to find the right player to play with Fletcher who has been very good so far. Brewster would be a great loan signing!
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 13, 2020 10:22:08 GMT
It is my opinion that Campbell can score some very good goals and finishes well. Do I want his Stoke's first eleven? No! I do not think that he is even that fast. Yesterday his performance was awful. His contribution was poor also. I can only think MON has him starting in the hope he scores one of his super goals in the hope a good bid might come in for him. Brown is not a forward but when he came on he made Campbell look slow. Stoke may have quite a few strikers at their disposal but at the moment we need to find the right player to play with Fletcher who has been very good so far. Brewster would be a great loan signing! Ty certainly has bags of pace!
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Post by ravey123 on Sept 13, 2020 10:52:03 GMT
Campbell has had his best games for us on the right of a front 3, with Powell at no.10 - so has Powell, in fact. 352 suits neither. It also doesn't suit player of the season McClean. There are three reasons already to revert to 4231. Today's wing backs are really just decent full backs, who can do a solid job in a back four, but are not pacey or adventurous enough to play as wing backs. See - there's a fourth......... His work rate and fitness will be shown up by Brown the duracell bunny, who could well take his place if he does not put some effort in to improve both. He comes alive in the box with the ball at his feet, and is a gifted and natural finisher, but it seems MON will demand a "defend from the front" worth ethic from his strikers. Tye will, I am sure, know what is expected of him, so it is down to him now. He plays better on the right because when he plays upfront he is not prepared or capable of putting himself about. His body language when he plays upfront is sometimes terrible. Hardly ever seems to challenge for the ball, then when he does it seems pretty half hearted. He's a cracking player when running with or onto the ball but is not a lone or part of a 2 striker. His style of running with and onto the ball is far better suited to a right sided player. I suspect he's scored more goals per minute too when playing wide right than when he's played upfront.
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Campbell
Sept 13, 2020 10:54:38 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 13, 2020 10:54:38 GMT
Tyrese is the best goalscorer we have and for me he must play in as many games as he can the goals will come he is a natural goalscorer i dont care if people think he can do more, he is always a treat on goal. him fletcher and vokes will get us the goals this time Spot on. He can come accross as being a bit lazy but he’s got some special skills inside the box where he comes to live. I think him and Fletcher could be a brilliant combination.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 13, 2020 11:23:55 GMT
Campbell is a huge problem and I can understand the manager's dilemma. He is our most threatening player in the box and most ineffective elsewhere on the pitch. He can't play the lone striker unless we can work out a way of playing balls through for him to run onto. He doesn't seem to do a lot of running about yet is the first to look tired. Physically looks strong, uses his quick feet well to get past players and has played better wide but as above he doesn't seem able/willing to use his physicality outside the box, never goes outside a player at pace, and falls over far too easily. If I was manager yes I want him playing for his goals but is he good enough or the team good enough to merit his inclusion for that sole reason.
At the end of last season it was telling that we basically saved ourselves when he was dropped for Gregory. It's not the way I want to go but in the end it's up to him to prove the team's better with him in it. From what I saw yesterday I think he'll lose out to Brown.
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Campbell
Sept 13, 2020 11:32:58 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 13, 2020 11:32:58 GMT
Sheikmomo pushing 40k posts, 80% of them slagging off Vokes. What's your point? Over 15 years, of which, Vokes (thankfully) wasn't our player for 13 of them Come on bgreen13. Just 'who' are you Be honest now 😅 Jesus Mr Ike, I'm neither an old acquaintance or Sam Vokes. Just someone who can read your quiet obvious agenda against a player that plays for a club you supposed to support. Are you always this odd?
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 13, 2020 11:33:58 GMT
Sheikmomo pushing 40k posts, 80% of them slagging off Vokes. What's your point? I’ve had that shite off him before mate. Ignore it Must be that foil hat he wears.
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