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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 10, 2021 5:39:11 GMT
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 10, 2021 5:46:25 GMT
Absolutely superb!!!! Wilder let himself down after though, not acknowledging fury and fucking off. Absolute wanker Absolutely. He could of walked away from that fight with a fair bit of credit if he'd took defeat like a man. But scurrying off into the darkness back to the changing room as Tyson was being announced the Victor was poor form & has totally undone all the heroic work he managed to pull off during the fight. Tyson Fury, the man is a machine. Awesome fighter who carries such uniqueness in terms of style & aurora, the kind which will unlikely be matched or seen again. And he has the physique of a knock kneed binman
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 10, 2021 5:49:27 GMT
Corruption or just plain ineptitude?
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Oct 10, 2021 6:38:59 GMT
A truly fitting finale to a fantastic series of fights,they had had the lot.
Worthy member of the pantheon of great boxing trilogies.
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Post by dave1 on Oct 10, 2021 6:48:48 GMT
Corruption or just plain ineptitude? Are you suggesting that you think fury was behind???
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Post by yyy on Oct 10, 2021 6:53:38 GMT
That for me is why boxing is the biggest entertainments sport. A classic, well done TF
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Post by zerps on Oct 10, 2021 7:08:45 GMT
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Post by hcstokie on Oct 10, 2021 7:18:44 GMT
Corruption or just plain ineptitude? Are you suggesting that you think fury was behind??? I’m not sure. It’s interesting that the pink scorecard didn’t score it 10-8 in the 10th considering the knockdown. Fury was always going to get a points victory there, Wilder was spent in the later rounds and although he landed a few it became a bit one way traffic.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 10, 2021 8:00:15 GMT
Absolutely superb!!!! Wilder let himself down after though, not acknowledging fury and fucking off. Absolute wanker Absolutely. He could of walked away from that fight with a fair bit of credit if he'd took defeat like a man. But scurrying off into the darkness back to the changing room as Tyson was being announced the Victor was poor form & has totally undone all the heroic work he managed to pull off during the fight. Tyson Fury, the man is a machine. Awesome fighter who carries such uniqueness in terms of style & aurora, the kind which will unlikely be matched or seen again. I wonder if tbe medical people told him to go get immediate attention
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Post by lordb on Oct 10, 2021 8:54:44 GMT
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Post by crowey on Oct 10, 2021 9:01:46 GMT
Absolutely. He could of walked away from that fight with a fair bit of credit if he'd took defeat like a man. But scurrying off into the darkness back to the changing room as Tyson was being announced the Victor was poor form & has totally undone all the heroic work he managed to pull off during the fight. Tyson Fury, the man is a machine. Awesome fighter who carries such uniqueness in terms of style & aurora, the kind which will unlikely be matched or seen again. I wonder if tbe medical people told him to go get immediate attention Don’t think so Joe. Just pissed off
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 10, 2021 9:02:14 GMT
Well done, Tyson.
Let's hope Wilder shows a little more respect and sportsmanship once he's got over the understandable disappointment of having his career and standing within the sport destroyed.
I suspect he probably will. Ali and Frazier said some pretty unpleasant things to each other over the years they were active and managed to develop a mutual respect after they'd retired.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 10, 2021 9:07:42 GMT
Well done, Tyson. Let's hope Wilder shows a little more respect and sportsmanship once he's got over the understandable disappointment of having his career and standing within the sport destroyed. I suspect he probably will. Ali and Frazier said some pretty unpleasant things to each other over the years they were active and managed to develop a mutual respect after they'd retired. Frazier hated Ali until he died. When he saw him on TV with failing health he'd smirk and point out he'd made it happen. When Ali lit the Olympic flame in 1996 Frazier saod he wished he could've pushed him into the flames!
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Post by salopstick on Oct 10, 2021 9:48:51 GMT
Made up for fury
Definitely the top heavyweight since Vladimir.
In heavyweight boxing every fighter has a chance but of the next three likely fury opponents White, Usyk and Joshua none of them should trouble him.
I think Uysk and white can fight on after losing to fury. If AJ loses again to Uysk he could not recover from a fury defeat. However I don’t think that fight will happen. Hearn won’t want his cash cow destroyed.
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 10, 2021 9:59:28 GMT
Made up for fury Definitely the top heavyweight since Vladimir. In heavyweight boxing every fighter has a chance but of the next three likely fury opponents White, Usyk and Joshua none of them should trouble him. I think Uysk and white can fight on after losing to fury. If AJ loses again to Uysk he could not recover from a fury defeat. However I don’t think that fight will happen. Hearn won’t want his cash cow destroyed. Not sure about 'since Vladimir'- I think you'd have to go back quite a bit further than Klitschko to find someone better than Fury. Can't see Whyte troubling him at all; Joshua, no chance; Usyk is clever enough to cause him some trouble, but the size difference will probably see him off in the end.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 10, 2021 10:22:15 GMT
Corruption or just plain ineptitude? Are you suggesting that you think fury was behind??? Not at all... The cards had wilder winning rounds that Fury dominated, knockdowns for Fury that weren't on the scorecard as knockdowns.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 10, 2021 10:28:47 GMT
Made up for fury Definitely the top heavyweight since Vladimir. In heavyweight boxing every fighter has a chance but of the next three likely fury opponents White, Usyk and Joshua none of them should trouble him. I think Uysk and white can fight on after losing to fury. If AJ loses again to Uysk he could not recover from a fury defeat. However I don’t think that fight will happen. Hearn won’t want his cash cow destroyed. Not sure about 'since Vladimir'- I think you'd have to go back quite a bit further than Klitschko to find someone better than Fury. Can't see Whyte troubling him at all; Joshua, no chance; Usyk is clever enough to cause him some trouble, but the size difference will probably see him off in the end. I was being kind about vlad. Good fighter against very limited opposition Of eras you are probably looking at FraisierAli Tyson Lewis Fury Fury is definitely in the conversation of top heavyweights of all time
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Post by Goonie on Oct 10, 2021 10:44:29 GMT
I'll be really interested to see Wilder's excuses this time.
I think he'll go with the 'extra long' count in the first knockdown (Wilder refused to go to a neutral corner)
Fury wrestling him possibly
The doctor breaking his confidence with unnecessary checks
Either that or something so bizarre it would fit on South Park
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 10, 2021 10:50:37 GMT
Wilder was in a bad way at the end of that fight.
He took an pounding, pretty much from the off, but particularly in the final rounds. The hit that put him down in the 10th was absolutely brutal.
No doubt we’ll get an “all is well message”. And hopefully we do.
But the most significant damage done is more likely not to be seen for a good while. His incredible courage in getting back up could be his undoing in the long run.
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Post by zerps on Oct 10, 2021 11:19:27 GMT
Wilder was in a bad way at the end of that fight. He took an pounding, pretty much from the off, but particularly in the final rounds. The hit that put him down in the 10th was absolutely brutal. No doubt we’ll get an “all is well message”. And hopefully we do. But the most significant damage done is more likely not to be seen for a good while. His incredible courage in getting back up could be his undoing in the long run. I thought that myself. The towel should have gone in.
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Post by tuum on Oct 10, 2021 12:03:07 GMT
Are you suggesting that you think fury was behind??? Not at all... The cards had wilder winning rounds that Fury dominated, knockdowns for Fury that weren't on the scorecard as knockdowns. Which rounds did Wilder win that Fury dominated? There are only 3 up for discussion and they are 2-5-9. From memory so don't quote me on what follows. The dodgy card that had them tied at the end of the 9th had Wilder winning 2-9 but losing 5. The other 2 judges had Wilder losing 2 and 9 but winning 5. Rd.2 could have gone either way. Fury did not dominate that round. Rd.9 I think was when Wilder had a late flurry. Not enough IMO to win the round but punches thrown later in the round seem to be 'remembered' more easily. I understand where you are coming from but I don't think there is a big enough difference across the 3 scorecards to consider it corrupt....a little bit incompetent maybe but not too much.
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 10, 2021 13:21:42 GMT
What a champion 👏👏👏
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Post by zerps on Oct 10, 2021 13:43:46 GMT
Not at all... The cards had wilder winning rounds that Fury dominated, knockdowns for Fury that weren't on the scorecard as knockdowns. Which rounds did Wilder win that Fury dominated? There are only 3 up for discussion and they are 2-5-9. From memory so don't quote me on what follows. The dodgy card that had them tied at the end of the 9th had Wilder winning 2-9 but losing 5. The other 2 judges had Wilder losing 2 and 9 but winning 5. Rd.2 could have gone either way. Fury did not dominate that round. Rd.9 I think was when Wilder had a late flurry. Not enough IMO to win the round but punches thrown later in the round seem to be 'remembered' more easily. I understand where you are coming from but I don't think there is a big enough difference across the 3 scorecards to consider it corrupt....a little bit incompetent maybe but not too much. Always difficult to beat a yank on points in yankland, historically
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Oct 10, 2021 13:43:47 GMT
Are you suggesting that you think fury was behind??? Not at all... The cards had wilder winning rounds that Fury dominated, knockdowns for Fury that weren't on the scorecard as knockdowns. Knockdowns aren't automatically on the scorecard, you can get knocked down and still be scored a 10-9 if it's deemed a close enough round. I don't think the cards are too crazy, with the crowd getting very excited every time Wilder connected with anything at all and a lot of leaning and holding when Fury was doing his best work you can see why some judges would put more weight behind Wilder landing towards the end of a round.
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Post by butlerstbob on Oct 10, 2021 16:15:27 GMT
Only just got the chance to watch the fight, I am not a huge boxing fan but that was amazing, and totally brutal in the end.... The sight of Wilder on the floor after the ko was quite sad really and probably why I don't like boxing that much! Felt for him a bit really, but hats off to Fury, not a scratch on him!!
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Post by yyy on Oct 10, 2021 16:21:17 GMT
Wilder must be wishing he had taken the AJ purse now when it was on offer. I reckon he'd beat AJ. Instead he opted to fight a fat out of shape fury lol
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Post by salopstick on Oct 10, 2021 17:17:06 GMT
If Joshua doesn’t beat uysk in the rematch then AJ v wilder is a realistic comeback fight for them both
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 10, 2021 17:20:04 GMT
If Joshua doesn’t beat uysk in the rematch then AJ v wilder is a realistic comeback fight for them both I’d like to see Usyk defend against Whyte for the honour facing fury and unifying the belts. Joshua v Wilder would be an interesting eliminator
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Post by hcstokie on Oct 10, 2021 17:31:13 GMT
If Joshua doesn’t beat uysk in the rematch then AJ v wilder is a realistic comeback fight for them both I’d like to see Usyk defend against Whyte for the honour facing fury and unifying the belts. Joshua v Wilder would be an interesting eliminator I don’t think either would take it as whoever lost would be left in no mans land and effectively retired. Too risky for both, probably better for them to have some tune up fights to get a mandatory position more easily. I don’t think either are good enough to win the belts from Fury or Usyk. Whyte deserves the mandatory shot (assuming he gets past Wallin) after being shafted for so long last time. If he loses the title shot I’d love see him spark Wilder after how long he waited for the opportunity that never came.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 10, 2021 17:53:04 GMT
Wilder may struggle to get fights against people he avoided for so long
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