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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 31, 2019 10:52:43 GMT
How embarrassing were those Stoke fans insisting on standing up at Fulham.
They had a complete disregard for children, older supporters or those that simply just wanted to sit. I noticed an older lady with a walking stick standing because the idiots in front refused to sit down. Children were having to stand on seats and some supporters simply gave up. The Shawcross family including children didn't bother trying to watch the game. At least one of Ryan's children didn't get to see her father play.
These supporters didn't realise how stupid they looked when goading the stewards. Red faced middle aged supporters, a woman trying to argue that away supporters always stand. Grown men arguing with stewards, asking why they hadn't asked others to sit down, pathetic. A complete disregard for others.
The saddest thing of all is people will reply to defend themselves and will be abusive. Grow up.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Dec 31, 2019 10:57:06 GMT
It is clearly why seperate sections should be brought back for those wanting to sit and those wanting to stand.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 31, 2019 11:05:41 GMT
It is clearly why seperate sections should be brought back for those wanting to sit and those wanting to stand. Very true. But, until that happens, people should only stand if they are not inconveniencing those behind who can't or don't wish to stand. I must admit that on most of my away days I have always preferred to stand - but not if there is someone behind me who is sitting. Until the law changes to allow official standing areas in PL games, it should not be beyond the ability of clubs to say, when they put tickets on sale, that those people who can't or don't wish to stand should buy tickets in the front x rows. |
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 31, 2019 11:05:59 GMT
How embarrassing were those Stoke fans insisting on standing up at Fulham. They had a complete disregard for children, older supporters or those that simply just wanted to sit. I noticed an older lady with a walking stick standing because the idiots in front refused to sit down. Children were having to stand on seats and some supporters simply gave up. The Shawcross family including children didn't bother trying to watch the game. At least one of Ryan's children didn't get to see her father play. These supporters didn't realise how stupid they looked when goading the stewards. Red faced middle aged supporters, a woman trying to argue that away supporters always stand. Grown men arguing with stewards, asking why they hadn't asked others to sit down, pathetic. A complete disregard for others. The saddest thing of all is people will reply to defend themselves and will be abusive. Grow up. Was this in the lower section of the ground? |
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2019 11:28:35 GMT
Brain dead the lot of 'em!
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 31, 2019 11:40:40 GMT
How embarrassing were those Stoke fans insisting on standing up at Fulham. They had a complete disregard for children, older supporters or those that simply just wanted to sit. I noticed an older lady with a walking stick standing because the idiots in front refused to sit down. Children were having to stand on seats and some supporters simply gave up. The Shawcross family including children didn't bother trying to watch the game. At least one of Ryan's children didn't get to see her father play. These supporters didn't realise how stupid they looked when goading the stewards. Red faced middle aged supporters, a woman trying to argue that away supporters always stand. Grown men arguing with stewards, asking why they hadn't asked others to sit down, pathetic. A complete disregard for others. The saddest thing of all is people will reply to defend themselves and will be abusive. Grow up. Was this in the lower section of the ground? From upper to lower. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Dec 31, 2019 11:46:39 GMT
I never sit at football matches, which is why I always buy a ticket at the back of wherever we're playing.
If I was at the front, and people couldn't see behind me, of course, I'd sit or move - what is wrong with people?
We have a lot of dense people who follow this club.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 31, 2019 11:49:17 GMT
Isn't it the law to sit? If they are not complying with this then the stewards or police are not upholding the law? I know that sounds officious but it pisses me off that the lack of respect, for fellow fans, is not clamped down on.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 31, 2019 12:01:48 GMT
Just shows the prevailing attitude in our society. Total disregard for others. In this world you’re dismissed as a snowflake if you dare to think of someone other than yourself for one minute.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Dec 31, 2019 12:12:55 GMT
It happens at every away match. I am 71 and at Barnsley I was being pushed down the steps by some young lads when we scored the third, they had been standing all match. They got really angry and nasty when I had to push them away from me so that I didn't fall down the steps. Always try to book nearer the front, but still doesn't stop many standing.
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Post by 1863scfc1863 on Dec 31, 2019 12:15:27 GMT
I prefer to stand. I was in seats where people behind me were sitting so I sat through the first half.
The 2nd half I got up and moved further back so I could stand up.
I don't like seeing people standing in front of people who want to sit down but it isn't going to change until they authorities do something about it.
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 31, 2019 12:17:14 GMT
I prefer to stand. I was in seats where people behind me were sitting so I sat through the first half. The 2nd half I got up and moved further back so I could stand up. I don't like seeing people standing in front of people who want to sit down but it isn't going to change until they authorities do something about it. They tried and got nothing but abuse. |
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2019 12:25:17 GMT
I prefer to stand. I was in seats where people behind me were sitting so I sat through the first half. The 2nd half I got up and moved further back so I could stand up. I don't like seeing people standing in front of people who want to sit down but it isn't going to change until they authorities do something about it. They tried and got nothing but abuse. Get the police on the job and haul the buggers out of the ground then! But the plod should be doing this anyway. |
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 31, 2019 12:27:49 GMT
It is clearly why seperate sections should be brought back for those wanting to sit and those wanting to stand. But such is the mentality of footie fans people will still stand even if they are in a 'seating' area thats the way sadly. All you need is someone to stand in the first row and refuse to sit and then its like a reverse domino effect where everyone has to stand. I am in a minority I know but I don't really get the preference for standing. |
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 31, 2019 12:28:13 GMT
This is one reason I can’t stand ( excuse the pun!) to go to games anymore. Too many self centred jerks and no proper stewarding.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Dec 31, 2019 12:30:47 GMT
Isn't it the law to sit? If they are not complying with this then the stewards or police are not upholding the law? I know that sounds officious but it pisses me off that the lack of respect, for fellow fans, is not clamped down on. It's not a criminal offence to stand but it is against the ground regulations to which you implicitly agree when purchasing a ticket. The law requires clubs in the top 2 tiers to only provide seating accommodation. The reason it is not enforced rigidly anymore is because of the numbers involved and the possible public order consequences of evicting fans who are standing. Safety officers take the view that allowing standing is the lesser of the evils. Until we have separate standing areas, I think the two clubs involved should be much more specific about where standing will be allowed and where it won't. Stoke City at present say that if you want to stand you should buy tickets towards the back, which is OK as far as it goes but is ill-defined and some fans at the front simply stand anyway. There should be a clear statement - standing WILL be allowed in rows XXX or blocks XXXX, but in rows YYY and blocks YYY seating WILL be enforced. So that everyone knows EXACTLY what the position is right from the date when tickets go on sale. I have made this suggestion before, but it hasn't been implemented unfortunately. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 31, 2019 12:34:17 GMT
The club should impose a designated section at all away games where if you purchase a ticket in that section you must sit down. Small additional cost but our own safety team should oversee it and impose bans for those that do not comply
I appreciate a lot like to stand but it is often at the expense of those who dont or simple cant
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 31, 2019 12:51:53 GMT
The club should impose a designated section at all away games where if you purchase a ticket in that section you must sit down. Small additional cost but our own safety team should oversee it and impose bans for those that do not comply I appreciate a lot like to stand but it is often at the expense of those who dont or simple cant The club always allocate me tickets as close to the front as is available as I take 2 kids. They do as much as they realistically can in that regard i think. |
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Post by boothenboys1863 on Dec 31, 2019 13:42:10 GMT
You can ask to sit wherever you want in an away ground. I know it’s not the point but if you wanted sit down then ask for tickets near the front.
I take my 7 year old with me and always ask for the back row so I can stand her on a seat
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Post by wrighter on Dec 31, 2019 13:47:15 GMT
i love to sit [ bad back]
trouble is if the person in front of me decides to stand, then i have to so i can see.
then the person behind me has to stand and so on
Was at Southampton 3 years ago. bloke in front of me stood up, i politely told him i couldnt see to which his reply was " tough shit pal "
lucky there were quite a lot of spare seats so i moved
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Dec 31, 2019 13:50:55 GMT
You can ask to sit wherever you want in an away ground. I know it’s not the point but if you wanted sit down then ask for tickets near the front. I take my 7 year old with me and always ask for the back row so I can stand her on a seat That doesn't always work because at some away games this season, fans have been standing as far forward as the second row. |
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Post by sd22 on Dec 31, 2019 13:54:32 GMT
Imagine something called ‘safe standing’ which would make it easier to designate seating and standing areas as well as increasing ground capacity. I may patent this new groundbreaking idea.
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2019 13:56:38 GMT
i love to sit [ bad back] trouble is if the person in front of me decides to stand, then i have to so i can see. then the person behind me has to stand and so on Was at Southampton 3 years ago. bloke in front of me stood up, i politely told him i couldnt see to which his reply was " tough shit pal " lucky there were quite a lot of spare seats so i moved What a lovely person he was! |
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Post by gogogadget on Dec 31, 2019 13:57:32 GMT
I was towards the front. Everyone was standing when I arrived. Stewards asked us to sit down, the message was heard by all, most of us sat,then people would stand again, then take ages to sit back down. Trouble was, the view from down the front was appalling. You could see about 1/4 of the pitch. I tried to sit, but gestured to a security guy, that unless everyone was sitting it just didn't work. He basically said I understand and the security gave up asking.
Last thing i want to do is block someone's view, however if you cant see the pitch, due to 10 rows in front standing, you have to stand yourself,
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Post by zerps on Dec 31, 2019 13:59:02 GMT
What if you’ve got piles?
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Post by nott1 on Dec 31, 2019 14:03:02 GMT
What if you’ve got piles? Boots. |
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Post by zerps on Dec 31, 2019 14:04:58 GMT
What if you’ve got piles? Boots. And shin pads? |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Dec 31, 2019 14:10:02 GMT
Imagine something called ‘safe standing’ which would make it easier to designate seating and standing areas as well as increasing ground capacity. I may patent this new groundbreaking idea. It will come, sd, because it has to and would be a win-win for everyone |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 31, 2019 14:19:45 GMT
Imagine something called ‘safe standing’ which would make it easier to designate seating and standing areas as well as increasing ground capacity. I may patent this new groundbreaking idea. It will come, sd, because it has to and would be a win-win for everyone Do we have any idea yet, how Boris Johnson's new government is going to play it, Malcolm? Hopefully his desire to be seen as a populist will make him minded to allow rail seats/safe standing areas in the top two divisions. Is it worth telling him that all the Northern seats he has won from Labour are all in favour of safe standing?  |
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 31, 2019 14:27:27 GMT
Imagine something called ‘safe standing’ which would make it easier to designate seating and standing areas as well as increasing ground capacity. I may patent this new groundbreaking idea. It will come, sd, because it has to and would be a win-win for everyone Please can you also ask for room at the front, Malcolm, to do the conga? (Just in case we ever score 4 again!) |
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