Ince

[sec62]

Say what you like, but i thought he had one of his best performances last night. Gave there defence something to worry about and kept the keeper on his toes with a couple of good strikes. His chasing back and defending his something he's not best known for, but was happy to do so last night.

[lordb]

You've got to be kidding.
He worked hard but he has to be the easiest 'winger' to defend against ever.
He never ever takes his man on the outside,cuts inside every time.
Easy for any fullback.

[baltipiesmuggler]

Was much improved last night but still got loads to improve on. He needs to take more risks, as when he does he looks dangerous.

Far too often he goes missing hanging back deeper than he should be, or opts for the easy pass.

[emred]

He’s supposed to be creative but produces nothing, if he found space when we have the ball like he does when we don’t it might help. Frightened of any physical contact. Waste of a shirt

[Veritas]

I am not a fan but agree he did some pressing and chasing back last night, as stated by others his inability/unwillingness to attack the fullback down the line is a major weakness for him and frustration for us and no doubt his team mates.

[Deleted]

The shit cherry on a massive steaming turd cake of a squad

[lordherefordsknob]

A 10 million pound winger in the championship should be getting 10+ assists a season plus 8-10 goals.


At the moment doesn't look like getting anywhere near that.


Only decent thing about him last night was that it was his shitness that caused the booing, then the rest of the team decided to wake up.

[davejohnno1]

Dec 11, 2019 8:52:51 GMT lordherefordsknob said:

A 10 million pound winger in the championship should be getting 10+ assists a season plus 8-10 goals.


At the moment doesn't look like getting anywhere near that.


Only decent thing about him last night was that it was his shitness that caused the booing, then the rest of the team decided to wake up.

I thought it was ward and Edwards going backwards unnecessarily that led to the few boos.

[stokesupporter]

Dec 11, 2019 8:21:16 GMT sec62 said:

His chasing back and defending his something he's not best known for, but was happy to do so last night.

Has done so since Blacburn so something has happened there. Yesterday also his overall play was class so his new attitude has started to bear fruit?

[stokest5]

5/10 up from his normal mark of 2/10. He was improved last night but he’s a hide and seek champion never looks for space always looks to get marked. Edwards is more of a danger down the right wing!

[musik]

Dec 11, 2019 8:21:16 GMT sec62 said:

Say what you like, but i thought he had one of his best performances last night.

O'Neill mentioned him first of them all. 👍

[leicspotter]

Dec 11, 2019 8:21:16 GMT sec62 said:

Say what you like, but i thought he had one of his best performances last night. Gave there defence something to worry about and kept the keeper on his toes with a couple of good strikes. His chasing back and defending his something he's not best known for, but was happy to do so last night.

Agreed. Still needs to create more for the team but his attitude was 100% improvement on many previous games...would have scored our fourth if Mame could have picked him out late on...got into a great position

[xchpotter]

Continues as a passenger....although he is throwing himself around a bit more from a defensive point of view, pity he’s nowhere near the ball when he does.

[sensiblestokie]

Dec 11, 2019 8:25:22 GMT lordb said:

You've got to be kidding.
He worked hard but he has to be the easiest 'winger' to defend against ever.
He never ever takes his man on the outside,cuts inside every time.
Easy for any fullback.

So was Robben, yet hardly anyone could defend against it.

Now Ince is no Robben but he’s certainly not what people are making him out to be, he’s a good player, just a scapegoat for fans. He’s always been the same yet he’s one of the elite Championship wingers (before he came to us) - so it couldn’t be that easy to defend for any full back.

He did well last night.

[pez75]

There definitely seems to be an improvement in his attitude and workrate, but the net effect is still zero.

[reddipotter]

I thought Ince had a very good game last night. His first touch and control are excellent and he did plenty of effective tracking back. I think he plays better with Edwards than CCV because he gets some help going forward.

[boskampsflaps]

Dec 11, 2019 8:25:22 GMT lordb said:

You've got to be kidding.
He worked hard but he has to be the easiest 'winger' to defend against ever.
He never ever takes his man on the outside,cuts inside every time.
Easy for any fullback.

Thats down to being left footed on the right, pretty obvious his right wont be that strong, saying that he did put a great ball in for a decent shot using his right, when he played on the left he did go at them down the line which is why I've been calling for it since he signed

[Linx]

I wasn’t that impressed. He seemed pretty ineffectual and was surprised he stayed on when there was Diouf on the bench. I suspect it was only because Vokes was knackered (and pretty much as ineffectual) that Mame was brought on in the CF role rather than to replace Ince’s position on the left. He‘s definitely lost his mojo; I thought he was quite good under Rowett but he seems less willing to take his man on and less willing to have a run at goal, both of which I was quite impressed with in his first six months with us.

[lordb]

Dec 11, 2019 11:13:18 GMT sensiblestokie said:

Dec 11, 2019 8:25:22 GMT lordb said:

You've got to be kidding.
He worked hard but he has to be the easiest 'winger' to defend against ever.
He never ever takes his man on the outside,cuts inside every time.
Easy for any fullback.

So was Robben, yet hardly anyone could defend against it.

Now Ince is no Robben but he’s certainly not what people are making him out to be, he’s a good player, just a scapegoat for fans. He’s always been the same yet he’s one of the elite Championship wingers (before he came to us) - so it couldn’t be that easy to defend for any full back.

He did well last night.

He put a decent amount of effort in last night,but that was it.
He doesn't affect games.
He has stopped scoring, he doesn't get enough crosses in, he's not winning penalties or free kicks in dangerous areas.
He's got a good first touch, good in tight situations & has a really good shot on him but because he routinely takes the safe option of cutting back & passing sideways or backwards he's a fullbacks dream opponent.
It's absolutely obvious that all our right back options hate playing with him.
He's no good.

[chuckrocky]

Thought he was poor. Seemed to work harder than he usually does but can’t remember him producing a single moment of quality.

[Deleted]

Dec 11, 2019 8:21:16 GMT sec62 said:

Say what you like, but i thought he had one of his best performances last night. Gave there defence something to worry about and kept the keeper on his toes with a couple of good strikes. His chasing back and defending his something he's not best known for, but was happy to do so last night.

By his own extremely low standards you are probably right.

[thehoof]

Ince when bought was lauded as a proven goal scorer and assist guru for this division.
Yet a lot of posters favourite whipping boy has scored more goals and has more assists than Ince.
Allen covers more ground in 15 minutes than Ince does in 90 minutes- and gets referred to as “Dill the Dog”, so forgive me for thinking that Ince needs to produce the goods that he was bought for before I think he is somehow rehabilitated; last night number of crosses to a Stoke player- 2, shots on target did not register until we were 3-0 up.
I still think he’s okay when you are at least a couple of goals up, but until then he’s a passenger.

[sensiblestokie]

Dec 11, 2019 12:12:38 GMT lordb said:

Dec 11, 2019 11:13:18 GMT sensiblestokie said:

So was Robben, yet hardly anyone could defend against it.

Now Ince is no Robben but he’s certainly not what people are making him out to be, he’s a good player, just a scapegoat for fans. He’s always been the same yet he’s one of the elite Championship wingers (before he came to us) - so it couldn’t be that easy to defend for any full back.

He did well last night.

He put a decent amount of effort in last night,but that was it.
He doesn't affect games.
He has stopped scoring, he doesn't get enough crosses in, he's not winning penalties or free kicks in dangerous areas.
He's got a good first touch, good in tight situations & has a really good shot on him but because he routinely takes the safe option of cutting back & passing sideways or backwards he's a fullbacks dream opponent.
It's absolutely obvious that all our right back options hate playing with him.
He's no good.

I agree we need to see more from him. Goals, assists, work rate etc. Same goes for everyone though.

At least he has that little bit of something about him, not many players in the team I can say that for!

[kustokie]

I agree he was better but he didn’t create many chances or put in crosses which are the two jobs of a winger. MON claims he is the only right-sided attacking option. I disagree and I’d give Diouf a few starts out wide. While he does have the ball control of a baby elephant, his natural instinct is turn and head for the goal, instead of fancy step overs and cut backs. Diouf has a lot more pace than Ince, he’s a better defender and runs until he drops.

[Edward Tattsyrup]

Possibly the most ineffective "winger" I have seen at the club. Would much rather see Diouf out there.

[binthelplates]

He played against a 33 yr old left back who cramped up after 60 mins.....
Last night was Ince’s 1 in 20 game where he decides to put in a half decent shift, normal service to be resumed on Saturday.
Ran around more than usual, but very little end product as per usual, sadly he’s no competition for his shirt apart from Diouf who should be given a run out wide on the right.
More effort, helps out with defensive duties and will challenge for the ball both in the air and on the floor, which Ince doesn’t have the stomach for.

[datguy]

Genuinely seems like one of the few that cares.

[somersetstokie]

Really a case of too little too late last night to impress anyone. Why hasn't he produced anything approaching last nights improvement in has last twenty odd games.

[pushon]

Dec 11, 2019 13:55:06 GMT thehoof said:

Ince when bought was lauded as a proven goal scorer and assist guru for this division.
Yet a lot of posters favourite whipping boy has scored more goals and has more assists than Ince.
Allen covers more ground in 15 minutes than Ince does in 90 minutes- and gets referred to as “Dill the Dog”, so forgive me for thinking that Ince needs to produce the goods that he was bought for before I think he is somehow rehabilitated; last night number of crosses to a Stoke player- 2, shots on target did not register until we were 3-0 up.
I still think he’s okay when you are at least a couple of goals up, but until then he’s a passenger.

That's right,you're telling it as it really is.
Joe Allen gets castigated for none stop effort, while Ince is tolerated for his "on-then-off" low voltage light show.

[kustokie]

Dec 11, 2019 18:35:16 GMT pushon said:

Dec 11, 2019 13:55:06 GMT thehoof said:

Ince when bought was lauded as a proven goal scorer and assist guru for this division.
Yet a lot of posters favourite whipping boy has scored more goals and has more assists than Ince.
Allen covers more ground in 15 minutes than Ince does in 90 minutes- and gets referred to as “Dill the Dog”, so forgive me for thinking that Ince needs to produce the goods that he was bought for before I think he is somehow rehabilitated; last night number of crosses to a Stoke player- 2, shots on target did not register until we were 3-0 up.
I still think he’s okay when you are at least a couple of goals up, but until then he’s a passenger.

That's right,you're telling it as it really is.
Joe Allen gets castigated for none stop effort, while Ince is tolerated for his "on-then-off" low voltage light show.

That’s because we have higher expectations for Allen than Ince.