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Nov 28, 2019 1:53:44 GMT
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Post by sensiblestokie on Nov 28, 2019 1:53:44 GMT
I mean it’s not hard to see, look at Jorginho at Chelsea playing deep. He’s a very good passer of the ball and good in possession. A lot of teams wanted him when he was at Brentford he doesn’t suddenly become bad because he’s playing here. He’s a good player. Jorginho has Kante and Kovacic who are more mobile and combative and give him protection though. That’s what Woods needs. That’s what I’m saying. Woods is a very good player at this level, but he needs the right players around him. Maybe Badou and Etebo could do that job, but with Clucas scoring goals and Joe Allen undroppable (so it seems), I’m not sure we will ever know.
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Woods
Nov 28, 2019 7:46:30 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 28, 2019 7:46:30 GMT
How do you know ‘what happened’? He did drop him from the squad. He didn’t make a match day 18 for nine of his remaining 10 games. I know exactly as much about it as you do. Now we even seem to agree that Jones dropped Woods from the matchday squads, and so you finally agree that Jones did not send Woods to the, by then, almost extinct bomb squad, since most of its original "members" Berahino, Pieters, Bojan, Imbula, Wimmer, and Bauer had more or less happily moved along. Only Diouf and N'goy (unless I'm forgetting someone) remained, training by themselves, which was a huge mistake. So why are you proclaiming confidently what 'happened' when you don't know? Sorry, you don't go from being lauded effusively by your manager for your performances to not in the squad for nine of the next 10 overnight for purely footballing reasons. It just doesn't happen. Quibble all you want over the semantics of the term, that's very much your bag, but the end result was the same. Woods wasn't going to play under Jones.
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Nov 28, 2019 7:49:16 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 28, 2019 7:49:16 GMT
I know exactly as much about it as you do. Now we even seem to agree that Jones dropped Woods from the matchday squads, and so you finally agree that Jones did not send Woods to the, by then, almost extinct bomb squad, since most of its original "members" Berahino, Pieters, Bojan, Imbula, Wimmer, and Bauer had more or less happily moved along. Only Diouf and N'goy (unless I'm forgetting someone) remained, training by themselves, which was a huge mistake. So why are you proclaiming confidently what 'happened' when you don't know? Sorry, you don't go from being lauded effusively by your manager for your performances to not in the squad for nine of the next 10 overnight for purely footballing reasons. It just doesn't happen. Quibble all you want over the semantics of the term, that's very much your bag, but the end result was the same. Woods wasn't going to play under Jones. Probably the only thing jones got right in his time here that.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 28, 2019 8:08:20 GMT
Is he shit again?
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 28, 2019 9:06:36 GMT
Apparently we are signing a DM called Trees in January. So from that point on we won’t be able to see the Woods for the Trees.
I’m here all week 🤪
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Woods
Nov 28, 2019 9:29:54 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 9:29:54 GMT
I know exactly as much about it as you do. Now we even seem to agree that Jones dropped Woods from the matchday squads, and so you finally agree that Jones did not send Woods to the, by then, almost extinct bomb squad, since most of its original "members" Berahino, Pieters, Bojan, Imbula, Wimmer, and Bauer had more or less happily moved along. Only Diouf and N'goy (unless I'm forgetting someone) remained, training by themselves, which was a huge mistake. So why are you proclaiming confidently what 'happened' when you don't know? Sorry, you don't go from being lauded effusively by your manager for your performances to not in the squad for nine of the next 10 overnight for purely footballing reasons. It just doesn't happen. Quibble all you want over the semantics of the term, that's very much your bag, but the end result was the same. Woods wasn't going to play under Jones. He might when you have a manager as unstable/inconsistent as Jones...all it would have required a change of hearts, and they were happening all the time. Not to mention the christmas program coming up or an injury crisis. So he remained in training, one of the 7-8 on call. He never was handed the Diouf treatment. The "end result" was very different. And that's a fact. That's what 'happened'.
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Woods
Nov 28, 2019 9:40:17 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 28, 2019 9:40:17 GMT
So why are you proclaiming confidently what 'happened' when you don't know? Sorry, you don't go from being lauded effusively by your manager for your performances to not in the squad for nine of the next 10 overnight for purely footballing reasons. It just doesn't happen. Quibble all you want over the semantics of the term, that's very much your bag, but the end result was the same. Woods wasn't going to play under Jones. He might when you have a manager as unstable/inconsistent as Jones...all it would have required a change of hearts, and they were happening all the time. Not to mention the christmas program coming up or an injury crisis. So he remained in training, one of the 7-8 on call. He never was handed the Diouf treatment. The "end result" was very different. And that's a fact. That's what 'happened'. It would have had to have been an injury crisis on the level of the Battle of Ypres for him to be considered given the number of midfielders on the books.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 28, 2019 12:15:56 GMT
Apparently we are signing a DM called Trees in January. So from that point on we won’t be able to see the Woods for the Trees. I’m here all week 🤪 Hopefully he will pull some up!!
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Nov 28, 2019 13:18:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 13:18:33 GMT
He might when you have a manager as unstable/inconsistent as Jones...all it would have required a change of hearts, and they were happening all the time. Not to mention the christmas program coming up or an injury crisis. So he remained in training, one of the 7-8 on call. He never was handed the Diouf treatment. The "end result" was very different. And that's a fact. That's what 'happened'. It would have had to have been an injury crisis on the level of the Battle of Ypres for him to be considered given the number of midfielders on the books. Nonsense, said the wounded midfielder to the general, just before he was shot.
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Nov 28, 2019 13:56:42 GMT
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 28, 2019 13:56:42 GMT
Apparently we are signing a DM called Trees in January. So from that point on we won’t be able to see the Woods for the Trees. I’m here all week 🤪 Hopefully he will pull some up!! Knowing our luck pugs the only thing he will pull up is injured!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 29, 2019 20:24:11 GMT
O’Neill, who watched Blackburn’s midweek win over Brentford, looks set to continue with Ryan Woods as his holding midfielder.
“Ryan’s done well in the three games,” he said, “and physically is improving game by game having been out of the team. There’s aspects of his play he needs a little bit of help with, but he recognises that and been receptive.
“He’s a very good, natural footballer, we maybe just have to refine him a little bit positionally at times, but we have been very pleased with his contribution.”
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Post by royalewithcheese on Nov 29, 2019 20:35:22 GMT
Woods is a very good footballer.
He wouldn't be in my 3, but if selected, I'm more than happy.
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Woods
Nov 29, 2019 20:58:20 GMT
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 29, 2019 20:58:20 GMT
Predicted woods would start tomorrow on Tuesday night think it exposes our lack of understanding of this league m he’s not strong enough as a defensive screen and fear for Dack dropping onto the hole and causing havoc , a regular patten last year from numbers 10’s with woods in that role , equally pair him with Allen and we are dreadfully weak physically in the midfield , which. Has been our Achilles heel for years despite the millions spent in there .
Big big call by the manager if woods starts their
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 29, 2019 22:37:05 GMT
I don't like him, never taken to the hype about him, even when he first came.....
However, I'm not the manager!!!
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Nov 29, 2019 22:40:35 GMT
Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:40:35 GMT
Predicted woods would start tomorrow on Tuesday night think it exposes our lack of understanding of this league m he’s not strong enough as a defensive screen and fear for Dack dropping onto the hole and causing havoc , a regular patten last year from numbers 10’s with woods in that role , equally pair him with Allen and we are dreadfully weak physically in the midfield , which. Has been our Achilles heel for years despite the millions spent in there . Big big call by the manager if woods starts their Crows.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:48:42 GMT
Etebo must still be injured because there’s no way Woods is better than Etebo or Ndaiye.
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Post by markby on Nov 29, 2019 23:24:42 GMT
I saw a LOT of Woodsy at Brentford.
He has his limitations - primarily a lack of real pace - but I always thought those limitations have actually, in a counter-intuitive way, made him a better player than he might have been.
This is because it has forced him to find other ways to compensate. It also requires his manager to recognise his strengths as well as his limitations, and use him accordingly.
Of course, he is always liable to be one of those players who divides fans. But whether you like him or mistrust him, his record shows that he has to be worth a regular place at mid-Championship level (as a minimum). Meaning I find it hard to understand how/why a team at the bottom of the Championship could have afforded to banish him to the wilderness.
It will be interesting to see how/whether Michael uses him - I personally would trust his judgement.
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Nov 29, 2019 23:58:29 GMT
Post by Jimm on Nov 29, 2019 23:58:29 GMT
Etebo must still be injured because there’s no way Woods is better than Etebo or Ndaiye. When you've got FFP looming over you, he is.
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Woods
Jan 16, 2020 10:35:30 GMT
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Woods
Jan 16, 2020 10:38:42 GMT
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 16, 2020 10:38:42 GMT
Dispensable
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Woods
Jan 16, 2020 10:55:19 GMT
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Woods
Jan 16, 2020 10:57:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 10:57:56 GMT
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Jan 16, 2020 11:38:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 11:38:51 GMT
I can't see them offering anything like the £6 million we were foolish enough to pay
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Jan 16, 2020 11:58:02 GMT
Post by iglugluk on Jan 16, 2020 11:58:02 GMT
Hopefully we can get this done as it's clear his career has stalled during his time here and we obviously need to significantly trim the squad. As said above, we will be lucky to get anything like a 'Stoke' type price for him.
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Woods
Jan 16, 2020 12:01:54 GMT
Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jan 16, 2020 12:01:54 GMT
Come on Gazza, you owe us one!
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Jan 16, 2020 12:05:57 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 16, 2020 12:05:57 GMT
Interesting if he does go how he performs.
Could well be advanced this one as 1 looks incoming for us
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Jan 16, 2020 12:07:03 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 16, 2020 12:07:03 GMT
Hopefully we can get this done as it's clear his career has stalled during his time here and we obviously need to significantly trim the squad. As said above, we will be lucky to get anything like a 'Stoke' type price for him. Probably a loan deal 🤭
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Post by werrington on Jan 16, 2020 12:41:18 GMT
I can't see them offering anything like the £6 million we were foolish enough to pay With the right players around him it would of been money excellently spent The sweet shop transfer policy has made good players poor ones, it’s no suprise that at Brentford was player of the year alongside the likes of Sawyers etc Put him in West Brom’s side and he’d be superb
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 14:10:09 GMT
I can't see them offering anything like the £6 million we were foolish enough to pay With the right players around him it would of been money excellently spent The sweet shop transfer policy has made good players poor ones, it’s no suprise that at Brentford was player of the year alongside the likes of Sawyers etc Put him in West Brom’s side and he’d be superb I'd agree with that. Woods, Allen, Etebo and NDaiye is a filthy sounding midfield option that would tear this league up if at many other teams. Contract expires next summer, so I'd say £4m probably the sweet spot being maxiumum we're likely to get whilst not really ridiculous; and giving us the smallest boost for FFP (assuming linear write-off)
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Jan 16, 2020 14:12:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 14:12:52 GMT
Can certainly see MON being interested in some sort of deal with Shane Ferguson - a left sided winger cum full back cum winger.
Yep, he's Northern Irish.
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