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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2022 12:14:41 GMT
Which bit do you disagree with, specifically? Walters was miles more effective in his role than Whitehead was in his. Let it go Rob🤣Nothing wrong with Deano apart from the price tag which most fans never got their head around That was the whole issue though Steve - he cost a decent chunk of change by our standards at the time and yet was inferior to what we already had in that position.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 25, 2022 12:15:11 GMT
Couldn’t disagree more , he was a good at doing what we needed. The abuse that he got came from the same school that thought Jon Walters was an insult to their football aesthetics. Which bit do you disagree with, specifically? Walters was miles more effective in his role than Whitehead was in his. The ‘effective’ bit. Can’t ever remember walking away from a game thinking ‘Whitehead let us down today’ - equally never walked to a game thinking ‘looking forward to watching Whitehead play today’ but that was the nature of his role. Covered the ground, put the tackles in, played it hard and scored the occasional goal - I could live with it then just as I can now . Shall we move on to Joe Allen ? 🙂
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 25, 2022 12:18:07 GMT
Let it go Rob🤣Nothing wrong with Deano apart from the price tag which most fans never got their head around That was the whole issue though Steve - he cost a decent chunk of change by our standards at the time and yet was inferior to what we already had in that position. We’ve had many chat on this mate and I still think he did a decent job for us overall but many may disagree which is fair enough
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Post by wuzza on Sept 25, 2022 12:25:55 GMT
Which bit do you disagree with, specifically? Walters was miles more effective in his role than Whitehead was in his. Let it go Rob🤣Nothing wrong with Deano apart from the price tag which most fans never got their head around Yet with the hindsight of what came later he was the bargain of the century 😕
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2022 12:34:53 GMT
Let it go Rob🤣Nothing wrong with Deano apart from the price tag which most fans never got their head around Yet with the hindsight of what came later he was the bargain of the century 😕 Agreed, it was a much more reasonable fee than we paid for Allen. I came away from most games he played thinking 'why is he playing instead of Whelan'? If you look at our very best performances from the time (subjective I know), you won't find many where Whitehead started.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 25, 2022 12:44:14 GMT
Yet with the hindsight of what came later he was the bargain of the century 😕 Agreed, it was a much more reasonable fee than we paid for Allen. I came away from most games he played thinking 'why is he playing instead of Whelan'? If you look at our very best performances from the time (subjective I know), you won't find many where Whitehead started. Ah but Allen was doing Whitehead’s job and a couple more ! .........no sorry let’s not go there. Live for the future and all that.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2022 12:55:13 GMT
Agreed, it was a much more reasonable fee than we paid for Allen. I came away from most games he played thinking 'why is he playing instead of Whelan'? If you look at our very best performances from the time (subjective I know), you won't find many where Whitehead started. Ah but Allen was doing Whitehead’s job and a couple more ! .........no sorry let’s not go there. Live for the future and all that. He should've just focused on his own. But agreed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 25, 2022 13:08:10 GMT
Let it go Rob🤣Nothing wrong with Deano apart from the price tag which most fans never got their head around Yet with the hindsight of what came later he was the bargain of the century 😕 He wasn’t. That 5m then was 10/12m of the next few years. He was poor.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 25, 2022 13:24:46 GMT
Yet with the hindsight of what came later he was the bargain of the century 😕 He wasn’t. That 5m then was 10/12m of the next few years. He was poor. But played his part in keeping us comfortably in the Premier league...their have been more expensive signings since then who have cost the club a whole lot more, financially and in league position which we are only just starting to recover from.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 25, 2022 13:29:46 GMT
Yet with the hindsight of what came later he was the bargain of the century 😕 He wasn’t. That 5m then was 10/12m of the next few years. He was poor. Fair to say I am not shocked by your stance on this issue Bayern 🙂
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2022 13:33:18 GMT
He wasn’t. That 5m then was 10/12m of the next few years. He was poor. But played his part in keeping us comfortably in the Premier league...their have been more expensive signings since then who have cost the club a whole lot more, financially and in league position which we are only just starting to recover from. It was still a lot of money to us at the time, it wasn't unreasonable to expect more bang for our buck. It was more than double what Delap and Whelan combined cost, he wasn't as good as either.
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Post by Rose City Potter on Sept 25, 2022 13:42:50 GMT
He was one of those players who did exactly what it says on the tin. Every squad at every level needs a few of those. I appreciated him in that he always went out and put a shift in. Playing like it mattered. How many of them have we had recently?
I think the money is a slight red herring in so much as that when he signed we had to pay over the odds to get them here as we were not a fully established Prem team. I can think of a few from that era that pound for pound were worse.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 25, 2022 15:15:11 GMT
I’ve almost certainly already posted this somewhere in this thread but… great mental for that equalising header at Old Trafford
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 25, 2022 16:57:13 GMT
We have had far more skilful and naturally talented players. But I’m not sure we’ve had too many who were as versatile or committed. Let’s not forget the level of players he was facing with us too. I’m guessing he’d have stood out a lot more in the Championship as a very effective midfielder. Would he? He ran a lot. Give him a ball and he looked useless. I’m not sure that transfers into the Championship. But isn’t the nature of his type of player that he doesn’t have the ball much? He wins it and gives it to the playmakers? I always thought he was a good player to have when you were starved of possession and needed to cover lots of ground, keep shape and stay compact. He wasn’t the ideal player when we were in the ascendancy and looking to assert ourselves and control a game. Overall though I think he did a decent job for us.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 25, 2022 18:26:30 GMT
But played his part in keeping us comfortably in the Premier league...their have been more expensive signings since then who have cost the club a whole lot more, financially and in league position which we are only just starting to recover from. It was still a lot of money to us at the time, it wasn't unreasonable to expect more bang for our buck. It was more than double what Delap and Whelan combined cost, he wasn't as good as either. Nor was palacios who we bought from spurs for alot more we paid for whitehead, nor was imbula, ndiaye, etebo, who didn't even five us a pop let alone a bang for their buck. Whitehead was an honest hardworking midfielder without a big ego or a nob for an agent...those attributes are priceless. I think if we're gonna start dissing some of our premiership midfielders Dean Whitehead should be well above many who we've wasted money on.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2022 18:33:22 GMT
It was still a lot of money to us at the time, it wasn't unreasonable to expect more bang for our buck. It was more than double what Delap and Whelan combined cost, he wasn't as good as either. Nor was palacios who we bought from spurs for alot more we paid for whitehead, nor was imbula, ndiaye, etebo, who didn't even five us a pop let alone a bang for their buck. Whitehead was an honest hardworking midfielder without a big ego or a nob for an agent...those attributes are priceless. I think if we're gonna start dissing some of our premiership midfielders Dean Whitehead should be well above many who we've wasted money on. Ndiaye played well when he did play. We wasted money on the players you suggest but that doesn’t make Whitehead an especially good signing. He was in our top five most expensive signings ever at that time and didn’t improve the side.
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Post by kjpt140v on Sept 25, 2022 22:20:12 GMT
He was a great character, always gave his very best. We need players like him now. Absolute horseshit … There are always haters.
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Post by senojbor on Sept 25, 2022 22:24:41 GMT
Nor was palacios who we bought from spurs for alot more we paid for whitehead, nor was imbula, ndiaye, etebo, who didn't even five us a pop let alone a bang for their buck. Whitehead was an honest hardworking midfielder without a big ego or a nob for an agent...those attributes are priceless. I think if we're gonna start dissing some of our premiership midfielders Dean Whitehead should be well above many who we've wasted money on. Ndiaye played well when he did play. We wasted money on the players you suggest but that doesn’t make Whitehead an especially good signing. He was in our top five most expensive signings ever at that time and didn’t improve the side. Why are you harping on about him? Dean Whitehead let no one down.
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 26, 2022 4:23:54 GMT
Who you gonna call !!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 26, 2022 5:56:27 GMT
Ndiaye played well when he did play. We wasted money on the players you suggest but that doesn’t make Whitehead an especially good signing. He was in our top five most expensive signings ever at that time and didn’t improve the side. Why are you harping on about him? Dean Whitehead let no one down. I mean, it’s a thread about him. Everyone involved is ‘harping on’ about him. He was a let down in general imo in that he was a relatively expensive signing at that time who turned out to be incredibly basic and not as good as what we already had. Means nothing as far as his coaching career goes of course and the best of luck to him.
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