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Post by pottersrule on Sept 29, 2019 18:35:47 GMT
Was turned inside out mate. Exactly mate but many don’t want to see that He had his faults mate,my gripe is that a proper replacement was never found he got Stephen Ward on a free who could never have been considered a realistic replacement.McLean has been hung out to dry at left back. |
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Post by callas12 on Sept 29, 2019 18:47:20 GMT
Exactly mate but many don’t want to see that He had his faults mate,my gripe is that a proper replacement was never found he got Stephen Ward on a free who could never have been considered a realistic replacement.McLean has been hung out to dry at left back. Not saying he was faultless at all but he was better than we've seen of Tommy Smith so far! Every full back has their moments of getting picked off by a pacey winger & to pick out the fault of a player who wasnt getting a regular start & just thrown into the team every now & again Is scraping the barrel somewhat. A fully fit & focused Bauer is IMHO better than both Edward's & Smith! |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Sept 29, 2019 22:11:39 GMT
Probably the only kick he got right all night. A perfectly flighted assist leading to a goal! How many of our other players managed one? You're kidding? Are you justifying his display on one dead ball kick? |
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Post by tomcmod on Sept 29, 2019 22:25:58 GMT
Only just seen the highlights....both Villa goals come from crosses past Eric, his "cross" appears to actually be more of a tackle and he was at fault for the disallowed Villa goal.
Yeah, so, he is doing what McClean gets stick for, probably worse. So how are we missing him?
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 29, 2019 22:50:36 GMT
He had his faults mate,my gripe is that a proper replacement was never found he got Stephen Ward on a free who could never have been considered a realistic replacement.McLean has been hung out to dry at left back. Not saying he was faultless at all but he was better than we've seen of Tommy Smith so far! Every full back has their moments of getting picked off by a pacey winger & to pick out the fault of a player who wasnt getting a regular start & just thrown into the team every now & again Is scraping the barrel somewhat. A fully fit & focused Bauer is IMHO better than both Edward's & Smith! I was talking about Pieters mate. |
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Post by callas12 on Sept 29, 2019 23:10:44 GMT
Not saying he was faultless at all but he was better than we've seen of Tommy Smith so far! Every full back has their moments of getting picked off by a pacey winger & to pick out the fault of a player who wasnt getting a regular start & just thrown into the team every now & again Is scraping the barrel somewhat. A fully fit & focused Bauer is IMHO better than both Edward's & Smith! I was talking about Pieters mate. Sorry mate, main point of my message was towards the sarge, thought he was referring to Bauer, but it was clearly Pieters, just happened to have quoted your reply in too.. This message has entwined between Edward's, Bauer & Pieters now! Fullbacks hey, who needs em?! 🙄😉 |
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 29, 2019 23:39:36 GMT
Bauer can't defend to save his life Pieters can and should never have been discarded by Windbag. Something I particularly disliked around the Pieters sale was that Jones claimed it was via mutual consent after a sit down talk with the player and yet Pieters has previously said that he returned after Christmas and was sold without so much of a word in his direction. Something very wrong somewhere and the more I hear Jones talk the more it appears that he's verbally disingenuous. |
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Post by nott1 on Sept 30, 2019 11:17:21 GMT
Great cross assist yesterday.........just saying  Slated on here by most. . . . . Just saying. And look what we have now......just saying. |
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Post by potterspele on Sept 30, 2019 11:39:34 GMT
Big mistake to let Pieters go, he was a great defender no doubt. If we had him now then teams would not be targeting our left side at all because his tackling was quality, almost always one of the best, even in the prem.
That said I cant understand why people keep going on about his assists for Burnley. Hes got something like 10 assists in 170 games according to the premier league website (3 of which have come this season). Big loss for sure but let's not kid ourselves he was some sort of Carlos-esque left back, his crossing was almost always crap.
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Post by tomcmod on Sept 30, 2019 11:44:56 GMT
Slated on here by most. . . . . Just saying. And look what we have now......just saying. It was more a tackle than a cross. He didn't stop 2 crosses that lead to 2 goals. Was at fault for the disallowed goal. JUST SAYING!!! |
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Post by tomcmod on Sept 30, 2019 11:47:38 GMT
Big mistake to let Pieters go, he was a great defender no doubt. If we had him now then teams would not be targeting our left side at all because his tackling was quality, almost always one of the best, even in the prem. That said I cant understand why people keep going on about his assists for Burnley. Hes got something like 10 assists in 170 games according to the premier league website (3 of which have come this season). Big loss for sure but let's not kid ourselves he was some sort of Carlos-esque left back, his crossing was almost always crap. More absolute bull! Have you seen his assist? He is tackling a player and tries to win a free kick by holding his leg. 2 crosses from his side that weren't stopped that lead to goals and the disallowed was his. McClean isn't the best but to make out Pieters is any better is ridiculous. He's played there his whole career but can't stop crosses that lead to goals, so either that happens and it's not just McCleans fault or they are both the same! |
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Post by potterspele on Sept 30, 2019 11:52:06 GMT
Big mistake to let Pieters go, he was a great defender no doubt. If we had him now then teams would not be targeting our left side at all because his tackling was quality, almost always one of the best, even in the prem. That said I cant understand why people keep going on about his assists for Burnley. Hes got something like 10 assists in 170 games according to the premier league website (3 of which have come this season). Big loss for sure but let's not kid ourselves he was some sort of Carlos-esque left back, his crossing was almost always crap. More absolute bull! Have you seen his assist? He is tackling a player and tries to win a free kick by holding his leg. 2 crosses from his side that weren't stopped that lead to goals and the disallowed was his. McClean isn't the best but to make out Pieters is any better is ridiculous. He's played there his whole career but can't stop crosses that lead to goals, so either that happens and it's not just McCleans fault or they are both the same! I cant comment on the game you are talking about but that is a single game in isolation. As a comparison how about Liverpool away in the relegation season where he had a marauding Mo Salah in his back pocket for 90 minutes during a hard fought 0-0? Edit: He's also currently ranked number 6 in the Premier League for tackles. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 30, 2019 11:54:40 GMT
More absolute bull! Have you seen his assist? He is tackling a player and tries to win a free kick by holding his leg. 2 crosses from his side that weren't stopped that lead to goals and the disallowed was his. McClean isn't the best but to make out Pieters is any better is ridiculous. He's played there his whole career but can't stop crosses that lead to goals, so either that happens and it's not just McCleans fault or they are both the same! I cant comment on the game you are talking about but that is a single game in isolation. As a comparison how about Liverpool away in the relegation season where he had a marauding Mo Salah in his back pocket for 90 minutes during a hard fought 0-0? Edit: He's also currently ranked number 6 in the Premier League for tackles. My memory might be slightly off but I'm pretty sure Salah missed an absolute sitter really early on? |
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Post by potterspele on Sept 30, 2019 11:55:49 GMT
I cant comment on the game you are talking about but that is a single game in isolation. As a comparison how about Liverpool away in the relegation season where he had a marauding Mo Salah in his back pocket for 90 minutes during a hard fought 0-0? Edit: He's also currently ranked number 6 in the Premier League for tackles. My memory might be slightly off but I'm pretty sure Salah missed an absolute sitter really early on? He did indeed but after that incident he didn't get a sniff. Pieters was man of the match that day by a country mile. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 30, 2019 12:01:16 GMT
My memory might be slightly off but I'm pretty sure Salah missed an absolute sitter really early on? He did indeed but after that incident he didn't get a sniff. Pieters was man of the match that day by a country mile. I'm not saying he wasnt. I remember him being decent and the plaudits afterwards. However, had what from memory was a really easy chance been tucked away it would have been another shocker that Eric had that year. Something had happened with Eric and was probably best he moved on when he did. The failure to provide even an adequate replacement has been extremely concerning. |
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Post by tomcmod on Sept 30, 2019 12:02:33 GMT
More absolute bull! Have you seen his assist? He is tackling a player and tries to win a free kick by holding his leg. 2 crosses from his side that weren't stopped that lead to goals and the disallowed was his. McClean isn't the best but to make out Pieters is any better is ridiculous. He's played there his whole career but can't stop crosses that lead to goals, so either that happens and it's not just McCleans fault or they are both the same! I cant comment on the game you are talking about but that is a single game in isolation. As a comparison how about Liverpool away in the relegation season where he had a marauding Mo Salah in his back pocket for 90 minutes during a hard fought 0-0? Edit: He's also currently ranked number 6 in the Premier League for tackles. You say that is a single game in isolation but then go on to say a single game in isolation. Pieters always got done down the wing and gave away needless fouls every game. The game you refer to is more likely an off day for Salah as someone else mentioned he missed a sitter. Joe Allen ranks high on tackles, it always helps those stats when the second touch is a tackle. Eric is the most non-dutch Dutch full back there is. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 30, 2019 12:18:57 GMT
Big mistake to let Pieters go, he was a great defender no doubt. If we had him now then teams would not be targeting our left side at all because his tackling was quality, almost always one of the best, even in the prem. That said I cant understand why people keep going on about his assists for Burnley. Hes got something like 10 assists in 170 games according to the premier league website (3 of which have come this season). Big loss for sure but let's not kid ourselves he was some sort of Carlos-esque left back, his crossing was almost always crap. More absolute bull! Have you seen his assist? He is tackling a player and tries to win a free kick by holding his leg. 2 crosses from his side that weren't stopped that lead to goals and the disallowed was his. McClean isn't the best but to make out Pieters is any better is ridiculous. He's played there his whole career but can't stop crosses that lead to goals, so either that happens and it's not just McCleans fault or they are both the same! You honestly believe McClean is on a par with Pieters as a LB? This is a wind up right? Are you Nathan Jones? |
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Post by tomcmod on Sept 30, 2019 12:22:37 GMT
More absolute bull! Have you seen his assist? He is tackling a player and tries to win a free kick by holding his leg. 2 crosses from his side that weren't stopped that lead to goals and the disallowed was his. McClean isn't the best but to make out Pieters is any better is ridiculous. He's played there his whole career but can't stop crosses that lead to goals, so either that happens and it's not just McCleans fault or they are both the same! You honestly believe McClean is on a par with Pieters as a LB? This is a wind up right? Are you Nathan Jones? People seem to forget how bad players are when they leave. Pieters would not improve us defensively as he proved on numerous occasions. People moan about McCleans crossing, well at least it stays in play, with Eric you played a game of guess the row it lands in. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 30, 2019 12:32:51 GMT
You honestly believe McClean is on a par with Pieters as a LB? This is a wind up right? Are you Nathan Jones? People seem to forget how bad players are when they leave. Pieters would not improve us defensively as he proved on numerous occasions. People moan about McCleans crossing, well at least it stays in play, with Eric you played a game of guess the row it lands in. Pieters is first choice LB for a team in the top half of the world's strongest league: you honestly don't think that he is a better LB than James McClean? |
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Post by potterspele on Sept 30, 2019 12:47:01 GMT
I cant comment on the game you are talking about but that is a single game in isolation. As a comparison how about Liverpool away in the relegation season where he had a marauding Mo Salah in his back pocket for 90 minutes during a hard fought 0-0? Edit: He's also currently ranked number 6 in the Premier League for tackles. You say that is a single game in isolation but then go on to say a single game in isolation. Pieters always got done down the wing and gave away needless fouls every game. The game you refer to is more likely an off day for Salah as someone else mentioned he missed a sitter. Joe Allen ranks high on tackles, it always helps those stats when the second touch is a tackle. Eric is the most non-dutch Dutch full back there is. That was the point, thus demonstrating you cant draw conclusions from a single game. Also Joe Allen is currently ranked 108th for total tackles in the Championship with 12 tackles. |
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Post by jeycov on Sept 30, 2019 12:58:22 GMT
Is pieters on loan?
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Post by Godo on Sept 30, 2019 13:05:24 GMT
He had his faults mate,my gripe is that a proper replacement was never found he got Stephen Ward on a free who could never have been considered a realistic replacement.McLean has been hung out to dry at left back. Not saying he was faultless at all but he was better than we've seen of Tommy Smith so far! Every full back has their moments of getting picked off by a pacey winger & to pick out the fault of a player who wasnt getting a regular start & just thrown into the team every now & again Is scraping the barrel somewhat. A fully fit & focused Bauer is IMHO better than both Edward's & Smith! Can't be arsed to argue the relative merits of a group of full backs who aren't/weren't really very good (although maybe Edward's may come good?) But when you think how critical wing backs are supposed to be to Jones diamond master plan makes you realise what an amateur outfit our club is. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 16, 2023 20:27:07 GMT
It was nice to clap him off the pitch yesterday.
A bloody good player for us.
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 16, 2023 20:52:03 GMT
It was nice to clap him off the pitch yesterday. A bloody good player for us. I didn’t even know he was on the pitch until a guy behind mentioned him! Totally didn’t recognise him. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 16, 2023 20:54:52 GMT
Looked ropey first half but very assured second half.
I've nothing but respect for Pieters as a player, I couldn't hang around at the final whistle but I hope he got a decent round of applause from Stoke fans......
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Post by albundy on Apr 16, 2023 23:38:56 GMT
Looked ropey first half but very assured second half. I've nothing but respect for Pieters as a player, I couldn't hang around at the final whistle but I hope he got a decent round of applause from Stoke fans...... There weren't many left as he shook hands with all the players first but walked from about half way by the sentinel (whatever its now called) towards and along the main stand and clapped the remaining fans and got a louder clap back then our players did. He looked touched and "saluted" the boothen. I'm glad he showed his appreciation and received equal respect back. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 17, 2023 0:25:39 GMT
A good pro who was not appreciated as much as he should have been
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 17, 2023 3:22:00 GMT
He posted a nice thing on social media about having mixed feelings about the game and what a great five years he spent here etc. Good sort
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Post by andystokey on Apr 17, 2023 7:05:49 GMT
I'm pretty sure he was bomb squaded for an off the pitch fallout. Something about a kerfew with his Mrs as I recall. Next thing he was shipped out on a loan. That was the first signs of poor judgment by a nutcase manager. To say it was about football was clearly BS. He might not of been a flying wingback but him and Arnie worked hard for each other and he was a solid full back. An easy first name on the sheet at the time. Same poor decision making with Bardsley when we had nothing better in reserve or to replace him with.
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Post by felonious on Apr 17, 2023 7:34:52 GMT
Looked ropey first half but very assured second half. I've nothing but respect for Pieters as a player, I couldn't hang around at the final whistle but I hope he got a decent round of applause from Stoke fans...... There weren't many left as he shook hands with all the players first but walked from about half way by the sentinel (whatever its now called) towards and along the main stand and clapped the remaining fans and got a louder clap back then our players did. He looked touched and "saluted" the boothen. I'm glad he showed his appreciation and received equal respect back. It was a nice moment at the end of the match, warmly applauded by the fans. |
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