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Post by wilfherman on Sept 25, 2019 6:35:27 GMT
I realised he put sticking plasters on his fingers before every game
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 25, 2019 6:39:45 GMT
After the first game of this season against QPR it had that inevitable air of ‘here we go again’. From then on, it’s gotten so bad you almost can’t believe it.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 25, 2019 6:41:10 GMT
I knew as soon as he rambled on about God.
Hes a lunatic and more than a little unhinged.
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Post by rorystowel on Sept 25, 2019 6:43:03 GMT
When he continually talked about signing young athletes but then paid £9 million for Sam Vokes.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 25, 2019 6:45:37 GMT
The only other person I know who does that is being tested for dementia.
Honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 6:46:23 GMT
When he continually talked about signing young athletes but then paid £9 million for Sam Vokes. The more you see it written down, or hear it said, it just gets worse. |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 25, 2019 6:47:36 GMT
Signed Ward as an athletic fullback but hardly ever played him.
Spent 4m on Tommy Smith but assumed he could convert Jimmy to be our new left back.
Wanted two in every position but seemingly can’t count to 2.
Only wanted players that wanted to play for Stoke till he didn’t.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 6:49:02 GMT
I was late to the party and really wanted to believe in the project but not signing a proper left back was a significant alarm bell. Dropping the diamond after spending the entire summer eulogising about it and drilling the team in it pretty much did it for me.
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Post by slicko on Sept 25, 2019 6:57:44 GMT
Wouldn’t sign anyone with “Red Flags” and then signed an injured Nick Powell.
Wanted a bare 20 players and then signed the cast of “Jesus Christ Superstar”.
Constantly sees small improvement game-on-game. Must take a microscope to each match.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 7:03:14 GMT
Wouldn’t sign anyone with “Red Flags” and then signed an injured Nick Powell. Wanted a bare 20 players and then signed the cast of “Jesus Christ Superstar”. Constantly sees small improvement game-on-game. Must take a microscope to each match. The bar has slid faster than a limbo dancing competition. Now the height of our ambition is to win a game. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 25, 2019 7:06:26 GMT
I remember there was an air of uncertainty towards the end of last season, but we gave him the benefit of the doubt until he got his own players in!!!
First game of the season against QPR I thought, this is going to be a struggle, I never anticipated this though!!!
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Post by wilfherman on Sept 25, 2019 7:11:00 GMT
I suppose you can go back to the meek surrendering of a 2-0 lead to Shrewsbury in the cup. The signs were there in just the first 90 minutes of his ‘leadership’
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 7:24:38 GMT
There is no way this fraud of a manager was responsible for Luton's success
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 25, 2019 7:32:01 GMT
He’s a bullshitter - they pop up in most lines of work from time to time when selection criteria become blurred in times of crisis, desperation or financial turmoil. They are, for the most part quickly exposed and swiftly exited. Unfortunately, misplaced pride and pig-headedness prolongs the inevitable for which there is a price to pay.
And boy are we paying for it......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 25, 2019 7:35:35 GMT
I thought he was poor from the Shrewsbury game but still had hope he’d be the man for the job.
Him going to a 433 was when I knew he wasn’t the man for the job. Doing the same thing his predecessors had done. But the hallmarks of his tenure were all there at the Shrewsbury game.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 7:37:03 GMT
I think it's very harsh to take away the credit for what he did at Luton. I don't recall any Luton fans questioning his role at the time and a manager can't take the blame when it goes wrong but have none of the credit when things go right.
There's a good manager in there with Jones somewhere and I suspect he'll learn from his mistakes here and be at least a decent manager elsewhere. He's suffered from making the wrong move at the wrong time and then seemingly panicking and second guessing himself at every turn, likely due to his inexperience. Tony1234 suggested at the time that the some of the higher profile players might not have been prepared to listen to the voice of an upstart in the dugout and you do wonder if there might be something in that after all as well.
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Post by chad on Sept 25, 2019 7:38:50 GMT
When he signed Sam Fucking Volkes
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 7:39:06 GMT
There is no way this fraud of a manager was responsible for Luton's success Is that that same for every manager who has done well at one club, then moved on and hasn't repeated the success? For me, it was too big a step and we're an absolute basketcase of a club. Its reflective of Leeds and Portsmouth. Overpaid for shit players, stuck with a crippling wage bill. Then have to buy on the cheap. This uberfuck comes from total mismanagement right at the top. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 25, 2019 7:39:46 GMT
The shambolic summer transfer window. Also, his hour long interview with Radio Stoke a week before the season started was something that rung alarm bells with me, it was just a bit odd. Bringing up Bojan as a way of questioning the fans yet again was bizarre and I thought his overly intense personality came across to the point where if I was a footballer I would be uncomfortable playing for someone like that, just my own view.
Moving into this season, the meltdown after the Derby game (which I keep bringing up) was just plain crazy and then when he went "full Rowett" at Birmingham, absolutely binning his "philosophy" in the process, was another clear indication that he'd lost the plot. Even resorting to that couldn't get a result.
Obviously there have been other games, weird team selections/substitutions from this and last season that I could use also.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 25, 2019 7:43:20 GMT
He's still the right man for the job.
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 25, 2019 7:44:01 GMT
About 10 games into his tenure when he failed to redeploy the diamond, when it was clear as day he lied about Bojan, when he failed to introduce Collins and others to matchday squad.
I started to dislike him when it was clear his interviews were containing lies and contradictions and continual references to fucking Luton bastard Town.
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Post by rawli on Sept 25, 2019 7:46:09 GMT
The minute I saw the video of the clown that recruited him. Until then I thought there was a master plan and it might come good. Listening to Coates Jnr ramble his way through his description of the recruitment process made me see the light.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2019 7:47:36 GMT
He's still the right man for the job. Is that based on anything bar his Luton record and his soaring talk of promises and projects that bears no relation to anything we've actually seen since he arrived in January, MD? If you accept all that could well be Emperors New Clothes bluster, is there anything to cling to? Results awful, signings uniformly abysmal, despite his "we don't make mistakes in recruitment" and "we've changed the culture" rhetoric, and the only system he's ever known in coaching has been meekly dumped overboard. |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Sept 25, 2019 7:48:33 GMT
He's still the right man for the job. I’ve got a job for you. Get yourself a violin and pop along to the cruise ship on the docks. You won’t miss it, it’s called. ..... Titanic. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2019 7:59:13 GMT
He's still the right man for the job. Is that based on anything he himself has actually done, or just on the notion of ‘give him time’? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 8:01:34 GMT
There is no way this fraud of a manager was responsible for Luton's success Is that that same for every manager who has done well at one club, then moved on and hasn't repeated the success? For me, it was too big a step and we're an absolute basketcase of a club. Its reflective of Leeds and Portsmouth. Overpaid for shit players, stuck with a crippling wage bill. Then have to buy on the cheap. This uberfuck comes from total mismanagement right at the top. "Hasn't repeated his success" But he hasn't just not repeated his success he's been an unmitigated disaster from day 1. He shows no sign that he understands tactics,team selection,signings,substitutions or anything to with with being a good football manager....except the talk in front of a microphone. Others said it months ago,the guy is a fraud |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 8:10:16 GMT
Small things for me, from time to time, but benefit of the doubt; however, when he sent Verlinden on loan, it became very clear, he really was getting himself in a mess he'd never been in before
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Post by tpholloway1 on Sept 25, 2019 8:14:46 GMT
His treatment of Bojan, one of the best players to have worn a Stoke shirt, (I know he has issues but surely they could have been worked with given his talent) and lack of the use of any flair ie. football ability. We are even more boring than under Pulis in his early (justified) and later (unjustified) reign.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 25, 2019 8:24:43 GMT
When he stuck by McClean as first choice left back, when his diamond completely relies on supply from the fullbacks. That was the first sign, and virtually everything he's done since has compounded it.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 25, 2019 8:42:26 GMT
Honestly, I was with him until I saw last nights line up.
A heavy defeat on Friday night and it'll all be over.
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