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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 17, 2019 20:18:47 GMT
I really don't understand why anyone is giving the slightest fuck about this election, it's already been decided what will happen. The Brexit Party have already withdrawn from a bunch of Tory areas to make it seem like the Tories actually want Brexit so people will vote for them, this gives the Tories a lead in the polls which is perfect for 'operation Tory fuck-up' that comes just before the election. We then end up with a parliament which once again can't get anything passed, so we get an extension, followed by another extension, followed by yet another extension, and we de facto Remain. Exactly. That's the whole point of this election, as it was the previous one. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 17, 2019 20:20:35 GMT
I really don't understand why anyone is giving the slightest fuck about this election, it's already been decided what will happen. The Brexit Party have already withdrawn from a bunch of Tory areas to make it seem like the Tories actually want Brexit so people will vote for them, this gives the Tories a lead in the polls which is perfect for 'operation Tory fuck-up' that comes just before the election. We then end up with a parliament which once again can't get anything passed, so we get an extension, followed by another extension, followed by yet another extension, and we de facto Remain. Exactly. That's the whole point of this election, as it was the previous one. Which would prove Farage correct in having his reservations about Boris's deal |
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Post by claytonscrubs on Nov 17, 2019 21:11:48 GMT
Latest polls... It’s not looking good for the grizzled Marxists. I’m not so sure. The more this becomes a 2 horse race, the less the margin for error for the Tories True, but assuming the support for the Brexit Party continues to fall, I can see more Leave voters flocking to the Conservatives. I honestly believe the Labour Party think their 5 million Leave voters will fall into line (y’know the red rosette on a turd thing)... I beg to differ, I think they’re in for a nasty surprise come election night. Whatever your political persuasion this is interesting... Professor John Curtis knows his political onions. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 17, 2019 21:21:57 GMT
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 18, 2019 7:30:12 GMT
This one made me laugh
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Post by Northy on Nov 18, 2019 8:57:44 GMT
Lppks like Jennifer Arcuri has dirt on joihnson and is warning him to give her respect or else link "I've been nothing but loyal, faithful, supportive, and a true confidante of yours. "I've kept your secrets, and I've been your friend. I think he's got lot a lot more important things on his plate right now, I wonder why she's gone to the papers now ? ££££ ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 9:00:56 GMT
Lppks like Jennifer Arcuri has dirt on joihnson and is warning him to give her respect or else link "I've been nothing but loyal, faithful, supportive, and a true confidante of yours. "I've kept your secrets, and I've been your friend. I think he's got lot a lot more important things on his plate right now, I wonder why she's gone to the papers now ? ££££ ? The Tory lead in the polls must be getting too big - time to try to discredit Boris again and maybe knock a few points off the lead ? |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 18, 2019 9:12:50 GMT
It’s happening this coming Wednesday..... Evening with the Parliamentary Candidates - Stoke on Trent South. Wednesday 20th November 2019 at 7.30pm. Florence Sports and Social Club, Lightwood Road, ST3 4JS Hosted by the Lightwood Community Group. (The Lightwood Community Group are a non political organisation and it will remain so). The event is open to anyone who lives in Stoke-on-Trent South and wishes to attend. The venue can accommodate 300 people (160 seated) and attendance will be on the basis of first-come-first-served. A donation on the door for attendance for the Dougie Mac will be taken (this is a charity event and all proceeds will go to the Charity plus £500 from the Lightwood Community Group). The venue is being donated free of charge for the evening. The agenda for the evening will be as follows: - 1) The Lightwood Community Group will open the event by introducing each candidate; 2) Each candidate will be asked to address the audience with detail of their personal background, experience and suitability for their application (get to know them as people) - not their election/political pitch but about them as people; 3) The Lightwood Community Group will ask a series of questions to each of the candidates (to enable the attendance to hear their policies and thoughts for the Nation but more importantly Stoke-on-Trent); 4) Questions will then be taken from the floor (from those who attend); 5) Each candidate will then be allowed an agreed period of time to address the audience with their election/political pitch - what they stand for, what they will offer, their policies and why anyone should vote for them (this is not a binary election and policies need to be heard); 6) The Lightwood Community Group will close the evening. It must be stressed that the evening will conducted in a respectful manner and anyone who oversteps what is considered to be appropriate and respectful will be asked to a) sit down and be quiet and/or b) leave the meeting. Any abuse will not be tolerated. The event is anticipated to last more than two-hours. Radio Stoke, Radio Signal and the Sentinel have all been made aware of this event. Dave Evans Chair, Lightwood Community Group. Please share with other community groups within Stoke-on-Trent South for their awareness. All welcome to this charity event. The event will also be broadcast live on the Facebook page: Lightwood Community Group. That will be Brereton's most high profile public appearance since he sung the Tory Party anthem on Spitting Image  |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 18, 2019 9:13:20 GMT
Simple as the Tory’s are the party of sunshine and positivity rabb is still operating on British summer time Where as doom and gloom labour Are on GMT |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 18, 2019 9:16:21 GMT
Simple as the Tory’s are the party of sunshine and positivity rabb is still operating on British summer time Where as doom and gloom labour Are on GMT What a wonderfully diverse group of people  |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 18, 2019 10:00:47 GMT
Simple as the Tory’s are the party of sunshine and positivity rabb is still operating on British summer time Where as doom and gloom labour Are on GMT Maybe he just said "Get daylight done" and all the complicated intricacies of the Earth spinning on its axis and general laws of our universe could be simply ignored by three simple words. |
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Post by algor on Nov 18, 2019 10:31:45 GMT
Simple as the Tory’s are the party of sunshine and positivity rabb is still operating on British summer time Where as doom and gloom labour Are on GMT Maybe he just said "Get daylight done" and all the complicated intricacies of the Earth spinning on its axis and general laws of our universe could be simply ignored by three simple words. You Labour lot really are a bunch of simpletons aren't you. Most new smartphones have night vision cameras now, there wouldn't have been much point of him posting a dark photo would there! Look at the car headlights in the background, you can clearly see 2 beams of light shining on the road, you wouldn't see this in the daylight. Check the internet your self there are thousands of examples and test reviews showing the night vision smart phone cameras. This is just 1: www.theverge.com/2018/10/25/18021944/google-night-sight-pixel-3-camera-samples |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 18, 2019 10:48:35 GMT
Maybe he just said "Get daylight done" and all the complicated intricacies of the Earth spinning on its axis and general laws of our universe could be simply ignored by three simple words. You Labour lot really are a bunch of simpletons aren't you. Most new smartphones have night vision cameras now, there wouldn't have been much point of him posting a dark photo would there! Look at the car headlights in the background, you can clearly see 2 beams of light shining on the road, you wouldn't see this in the daylight. Check the internet your self there are thousands of examples and test reviews showing the night vision smart phone cameras. This is just 1: www.theverge.com/2018/10/25/18021944/google-night-sight-pixel-3-camera-samplesAnd the trees behind him that are full of green leaves despite it being at the end of autumn? Is there a 'tree vision' on modern phones as well? I should say, I'm not that arsed whether he was out 06:30 or not. The tweet just made me laugh. |
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Post by algor on Nov 18, 2019 10:53:05 GMT
You Labour lot really are a bunch of simpletons aren't you. Most new smartphones have night vision cameras now, there wouldn't have been much point of him posting a dark photo would there! Look at the car headlights in the background, you can clearly see 2 beams of light shining on the road, you wouldn't see this in the daylight. Check the internet your self there are thousands of examples and test reviews showing the night vision smart phone cameras. This is just 1: www.theverge.com/2018/10/25/18021944/google-night-sight-pixel-3-camera-samplesAnd the trees behind him that are full of green leaves despite it being at the end of autumn? Is there a 'tree vision' on modern phones as well? I should say, I'm not that arsed whether he was out 06:30 or not. The tweet just made me laugh. There is a clear example of this on the link I provided (trees being Green in the dark), it really is common place. Are you suggesting he took the photo in the summer? What would he have been campaigning for then? |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 18, 2019 11:00:38 GMT
And the trees behind him that are full of green leaves despite it being at the end of autumn? Is there a 'tree vision' on modern phones as well? I should say, I'm not that arsed whether he was out 06:30 or not. The tweet just made me laugh. There is a clear example of this on the link I provided (trees being Green in the dark), it really is common place. Are you suggesting he took the photo in the summer? What would he have been campaigning for then? If you really want more conspiracy theories - the headlights you mentioned are reflecting off the rain on the streets, when it apparently hadn't been raining in Oxshott over that night. [enter X-Files music] Btw, on the example you gave all the photos taken with the flash on are still quite clearly pictures taken at night. Take the one with the red bus - it's still clearly dark and at night. The flash just means you can see things better. It doesn't turn night into day. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 18, 2019 11:11:49 GMT
There are far more worrying things to worry about with Dominic Raab than what time he gets up to campaign with his white middle class, middle aged chums.
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Post by algor on Nov 18, 2019 11:14:07 GMT
There is a clear example of this on the link I provided (trees being Green in the dark), it really is common place. Are you suggesting he took the photo in the summer? What would he have been campaigning for then? If you really want more conspiracy theories - the headlights you mentioned are reflecting off the rain on the streets, when it apparently hadn't been raining in Oxshott over that night. [enter X-Files music] Btw, on the example you gave all the photos taken with the flash on are still quite clearly pictures taken at night. Take the one with the red bus - it's still clearly dark and at night. The flash just means you can see things better. It doesn't turn night into day. The image of the Red bus is an example of a photo that didn't work well, it clearly explains this in the accompanying text. The image showing the Electricity sub plant demonstrates the effect of turning night into day very well. It's pointless debating this as you would clearly prefer to believe he took the photo in the daytime, in the summer and posted it claiming it was November than to accept a perfectly reasonable explanation. Enjoy the rest of your day. |
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Post by redstriper on Nov 18, 2019 11:38:27 GMT
Simple as the Tory’s are the party of sunshine and positivity rabb is still operating on British summer time Where as doom and gloom labour Are on GMT What a wonderfully diverse group of people 6.30 is a bit early in the morning for students, university lecturers, civil servants, and the work shy |
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Post by M on Nov 18, 2019 11:44:06 GMT
I think he's got lot a lot more important things on his plate right now, I wonder why she's gone to the papers now ? ££££ ? The Tory lead in the polls must be getting too big - time to try to discredit Boris again and maybe knock a few points off the lead ? There's only one poll that matters; the big vote itself, as they use proper methodology like votes cast, instead of presuming turnout is down 10% on 2017 with every demographic cohort at its lowest turnout since 1965 except the over 65s like Kantar polling do (Aaron Bastani). Something that can be measured though. Voter registration on the governments online portal. Since the registration closed for the 2017 election a whopping 17m people have registered to vote. over 10m of those are under 35 which I think everyone accepts are the age group Labour feel very confident in and we haven't even got to the cut off day yet which traditionally sees the greatest number of registrants (cut off day in 2017 saw 622k register alone and 72% of those were under 35). That 17m figure is quite phenomenal even with some that will be duplicated from 2017 if they changed address etc when you consider that only about half a million a year die... The higher the turnout, the more damaging it is for the Tories for me and this is looking like a general election with all the hallmarks of a huge turnout... Labour have also managed to keep making all the talk about policies. Boris wanting to make this an election only about Brexit and how "the establishment has stopped it" is looking like a damp squid. If I was a Tory MP in a marginal seat I'd be very worried. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 18, 2019 11:51:29 GMT
If you really want more conspiracy theories - the headlights you mentioned are reflecting off the rain on the streets, when it apparently hadn't been raining in Oxshott over that night. [enter X-Files music] Btw, on the example you gave all the photos taken with the flash on are still quite clearly pictures taken at night. Take the one with the red bus - it's still clearly dark and at night. The flash just means you can see things better. It doesn't turn night into day. The image of the Red bus is an example of a photo that didn't work well, it clearly explains this in the accompanying text. The image showing the Electricity sub plant demonstrates the effect of turning night into day very well. It's pointless debating this as you would clearly prefer to believe he took the photo in the daytime, in the summer and posted it claiming it was November than to accept a perfectly reasonable explanation. Enjoy the rest of your day. As I said, you seem more bothered about it than me. I thought it was a small, light-hearted tweet. But clearly you seem to disagree. As someone has posted above, what time he gets up in the morning isn't really too important in the whole scheme of things. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 18, 2019 12:01:49 GMT
The Tory lead in the polls must be getting too big - time to try to discredit Boris again and maybe knock a few points off the lead ? There's only one poll that matters; the big vote itself, as they use proper methodology like votes cast, instead of presuming turnout is down 10% on 2017 with every demographic cohort at its lowest turnout since 1965 except the over 65s like Kantar polling do (Aaron Bastani). Something that can be measured though. Voter registration on the governments online portal. Since the registration closed for the 2017 election a whopping 17m people have registered to vote. over 10m of those are under 35 which I think everyone accepts are the age group Labour feel very confident in and we haven't even got to the cut off day yet which traditionally sees the greatest number of registrants (cut off day in 2017 saw 622k register alone and 72% of those were under 35). That 17m figure is quite phenomenal even with some that will be duplicated from 2017 if they changed address etc when you consider that only about half a million a year die... The higher the turnout, the more damaging it is for the Tories for me and this is looking like a general election with all the hallmarks of a huge turnout... Labour have also managed to keep making all the talk about policies. Boris wanting to make this an election only about Brexit and how "the establishment has stopped it" is looking like a damp squid. If I was a Tory MP in a marginal seat I'd be very worried. I like your optimism, but I can't see it happening. Because of the Brext Party's surrender, the Conservatives are a long way clear. I think Labour will draw some votes in once they published their manifesto as people generally like Corbyn's policies, just not him. But he's less 'new' than he was in 2017, and I don't see him being able to inspire the sort of momentum that denied May a majority back then. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 18, 2019 12:31:58 GMT
The Tory lead in the polls must be getting too big - time to try to discredit Boris again and maybe knock a few points off the lead ? There's only one poll that matters; the big vote itself, as they use proper methodology like votes cast, instead of presuming turnout is down 10% on 2017 with every demographic cohort at its lowest turnout since 1965 except the over 65s like Kantar polling do (Aaron Bastani). Something that can be measured though. Voter registration on the governments online portal. Since the registration closed for the 2017 election a whopping 17m people have registered to vote. over 10m of those are under 35 which I think everyone accepts are the age group Labour feel very confident in and we haven't even got to the cut off day yet which traditionally sees the greatest number of registrants (cut off day in 2017 saw 622k register alone and 72% of those were under 35). That 17m figure is quite phenomenal even with some that will be duplicated from 2017 if they changed address etc when you consider that only about half a million a year die... The higher the turnout, the more damaging it is for the Tories for me and this is looking like a general election with all the hallmarks of a huge turnout... Labour have also managed to keep making all the talk about policies. Boris wanting to make this an election only about Brexit and how "the establishment has stopped it" is looking like a damp squid. If I was a Tory MP in a marginal seat I'd be very worried. In the year ending dec 2018 there was a fall of 370 thousand people registered to vote compared with dec 2017 |
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Post by M on Nov 18, 2019 12:38:04 GMT
There's only one poll that matters; the big vote itself, as they use proper methodology like votes cast, instead of presuming turnout is down 10% on 2017 with every demographic cohort at its lowest turnout since 1965 except the over 65s like Kantar polling do (Aaron Bastani). Something that can be measured though. Voter registration on the governments online portal. Since the registration closed for the 2017 election a whopping 17m people have registered to vote. over 10m of those are under 35 which I think everyone accepts are the age group Labour feel very confident in and we haven't even got to the cut off day yet which traditionally sees the greatest number of registrants (cut off day in 2017 saw 622k register alone and 72% of those were under 35). That 17m figure is quite phenomenal even with some that will be duplicated from 2017 if they changed address etc when you consider that only about half a million a year die... The higher the turnout, the more damaging it is for the Tories for me and this is looking like a general election with all the hallmarks of a huge turnout... Labour have also managed to keep making all the talk about policies. Boris wanting to make this an election only about Brexit and how "the establishment has stopped it" is looking like a damp squid. If I was a Tory MP in a marginal seat I'd be very worried. I like your optimism, but I can't see it happening. Because of the Brext Party's surrender, the Conservatives are a long way clear. I think Labour will draw some votes in once they published their manifesto as people generally like Corbyn's policies, just not him. But he's less 'new' than he was in 2017, and I don't see him being able to inspire the sort of momentum that denied May a majority back then. I don't personally worry too much about the Brexit Party though. My logic is in 2017 there was no right wing opposition for the Tories and they sucked up all of the Brexit vote as that was the real Brexit General Election and the idea that voters in any great number are going to leave Labour to the Tories I just don't see. That's before you look at the Tories having a battle to retain all of the moderate vote that will be considering heading to the Lib Dems in England and SNP in Scotland... For me the only way then is that there was a huge non vocal amount of people who didn't vote in 2017 who have suddenly become engaged for the Tories which I just don't get. I personally don't see how the Tories will be able to come out of this election with as many MPs as they've got, never mind picking up more... Arseholes and opinions though and all that |
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Post by M on Nov 18, 2019 12:44:47 GMT
There's only one poll that matters; the big vote itself, as they use proper methodology like votes cast, instead of presuming turnout is down 10% on 2017 with every demographic cohort at its lowest turnout since 1965 except the over 65s like Kantar polling do (Aaron Bastani). Something that can be measured though. Voter registration on the governments online portal. Since the registration closed for the 2017 election a whopping 17m people have registered to vote. over 10m of those are under 35 which I think everyone accepts are the age group Labour feel very confident in and we haven't even got to the cut off day yet which traditionally sees the greatest number of registrants (cut off day in 2017 saw 622k register alone and 72% of those were under 35). That 17m figure is quite phenomenal even with some that will be duplicated from 2017 if they changed address etc when you consider that only about half a million a year die... The higher the turnout, the more damaging it is for the Tories for me and this is looking like a general election with all the hallmarks of a huge turnout... Labour have also managed to keep making all the talk about policies. Boris wanting to make this an election only about Brexit and how "the establishment has stopped it" is looking like a damp squid. If I was a Tory MP in a marginal seat I'd be very worried. In the year ending dec 2018 there was a fall of 370 thousand people registered to vote compared with dec 2017 The Gov.uk dashboard suggests nearly 2 million have registered in the last 3 weeks alone. |
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Post by Northy on Nov 18, 2019 12:59:27 GMT
Simple as the Tory’s are the party of sunshine and positivity rabb is still operating on British summer time Where as doom and gloom labour Are on GMT What a wonderfully diverse group of people Early to bed and early to rise at that age. |
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 18, 2019 13:00:49 GMT
And the trees behind him that are full of green leaves despite it being at the end of autumn? Is there a 'tree vision' on modern phones as well? I should say, I'm not that arsed whether he was out 06:30 or not. The tweet just made me laugh. There is a clear example of this on the link I provided (trees being Green in the dark), it really is common place. Are you suggesting he took the photo in the summer? What would he have been campaigning for then? The Tory Party leadership contest... |
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Post by M on Nov 18, 2019 13:16:42 GMT
And the trees behind him that are full of green leaves despite it being at the end of autumn? Is there a 'tree vision' on modern phones as well? I should say, I'm not that arsed whether he was out 06:30 or not. The tweet just made me laugh. There is a clear example of this on the link I provided (trees being Green in the dark), it really is common place. Are you suggesting he took the photo in the summer? What would he have been campaigning for then? I've just downloaded the image. The meta data suggests it was taken at 2017:07:07 13:22:32 using metapicz.com/Also says it was done on an iPhone for those interested haha |
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 18, 2019 13:57:48 GMT
Second Boris Johnson affair investigated as part of misconduct probe linkAn investigation into Boris Johnson’s relationship with a US businesswoman will also look into another affair he failed to declare during his time as London mayor, with a woman who had his child. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 18, 2019 14:07:18 GMT
I think he's got lot a lot more important things on his plate right now, I wonder why she's gone to the papers now ? ££££ ? The Tory lead in the polls must be getting too big - time to try to discredit Boris again and maybe knock a few points off the lead ? Whilst I personally wont be, I can understand why people would vote conservative. Brexit aside I even find myself agreeing with some of the policies and benefits a Tory government can bring. However when it comes to Boris, he has no credibility to discredit to begin with so I wouldnt think any more Boris indiscretions at this point will be affecting his lead in the polls. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 18, 2019 14:10:45 GMT
Second Boris Johnson affair investigated as part of misconduct probe linkAn investigation into Boris Johnson’s relationship with a US businesswoman will also look into another affair he failed to declare during his time as London mayor, with a woman who had his child. It just flows now like water off a ducks back. He could go full Epstein but as long as he goes around shouting "Get Brexit Done (started)" it will have no impact. Unfortunately the alternative is Jeremy "hold your nose" Corbyn. 🙄 |
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