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Post by Eggybread on Nov 15, 2019 6:53:20 GMT
 Told you, its started .Can I pay more please please.
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 15, 2019 7:11:30 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 15, 2019 7:28:44 GMT
Total insanity from Labour. If there is one area that exemplifies the benefits of free market vs state owned industry it is the field of telecommunications. The privatisation of BT and the opening of the market to competition is what has driven the industry to where it is today. Before that it, it was in stasis. Ridiculous. Try looking at how it will benefit people rather than the cost. The poorest will have more opportunities from free broadband, it is an extra asset for teachers to help with education, a rise in education will reduce violent crime. It will save money and ease pressures on struggling services. Most job opportunities come via the internet, it is a good policy. Labour have ideas and the Tories will hide behind 'Get Brexit done', people need a vision of a positive future not some empty rhetoric. I voted Brexit myself but i wouldn't vote just to get brexit done, i am a fairly sceptical person really and to me only one party is focusing on helping people, whether most of it is bullshit or not they have their priorities right no matter what anyone thinks about Corbyn. |
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 15, 2019 7:36:55 GMT
Total insanity from Labour. If there is one area that exemplifies the benefits of free market vs state owned industry it is the field of telecommunications. The privatisation of BT and the opening of the market to competition is what has driven the industry to where it is today. Before that it, it was in stasis. Ridiculous. Try looking at how it will benefit people rather than the cost. The poorest will have more opportunities from free broadband, it is an extra asset for teachers to help with education, a rise in education will reduce violent crime. It will save money and ease pressures on struggling services. Most job opportunities come via the internet, it is a good policy. Labour have ideas and the Tories will hide behind 'Get Brexit done', people need a vision of a positive future not some empty rhetoric. I voted Brexit myself but i wouldn't vote just to get brexit done, i am a fairly sceptical person really and to me only one party is focusing on helping people, whether most of it is bullshit or not they have their priorities right no matter what anyone thinks about Corbyn. This ridiculous idea will destroy the industry and damage the people you want to help. Why? Because the comms industry is driven by technology innovation which simply doesn’t happen in nationalised industries. The comms industry is the most obvious example of that. The boom in the late 80s that lead to the mobile and broadband we enjoy today was a direct consequence of liberalisation of that industry. |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 15, 2019 7:37:08 GMT
 speechless. Gotta laugh though
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 15, 2019 7:39:40 GMT
Told you, its started .Can I pay more please please. Care to elucidate? |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 15, 2019 7:41:06 GMT
Try looking at how it will benefit people rather than the cost. The poorest will have more opportunities from free broadband, it is an extra asset for teachers to help with education, a rise in education will reduce violent crime. It will save money and ease pressures on struggling services. Most job opportunities come via the internet, it is a good policy. Labour have ideas and the Tories will hide behind 'Get Brexit done', people need a vision of a positive future not some empty rhetoric. I voted Brexit myself but i wouldn't vote just to get brexit done, i am a fairly sceptical person really and to me only one party is focusing on helping people, whether most of it is bullshit or not they have their priorities right no matter what anyone thinks about Corbyn. This ridiculous idea will destroy the industry and damage the people you want to help. Why? Because the comma industry is driven by technology innovation which simply doesn’t happen in nationalised industries. The comms industry is the most obvious example of that. The boom in the late 80s that lead to the mobile and broadband we enjoy today was a direct consequence of liberalisation of that industry. And now is the time to share the benefits,O and make them pay their taxes.  |
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 15, 2019 7:47:34 GMT
With respect essex, Labour can 'pledge' all they want but that will never happen in a month of Sundays. Its a cheap throw away promise I'm afraid. |
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 15, 2019 7:48:04 GMT
This ridiculous idea will destroy the industry and damage the people you want to help. Why? Because the comma industry is driven by technology innovation which simply doesn’t happen in nationalised industries. The comms industry is the most obvious example of that. The boom in the late 80s that lead to the mobile and broadband we enjoy today was a direct consequence of liberalisation of that industry. And now is the time to share the benefits,O and make them pay their taxes. We’ve all shared the benefits in the past 30 years. Oh - as for paying taxes. Absolutely. |
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Post by felonious on Nov 15, 2019 7:54:49 GMT
Told you, its started .Can I pay more please please. Care to elucidate? Well he's not talking about Denise Coates perhaps Peter's made a pledge  |
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Post by felonious on Nov 15, 2019 7:57:32 GMT
This ridiculous idea will destroy the industry and damage the people you want to help. Why? Because the comma industry is driven by technology innovation which simply doesn’t happen in nationalised industries. The comms industry is the most obvious example of that. The boom in the late 80s that lead to the mobile and broadband we enjoy today was a direct consequence of liberalisation of that industry. And now is the time to share the benefits,O and make them pay their taxes. The problem with all due respect Eggy nationalised industries were terrible, inefficient and in general ruined by powerful unions last time out. Do you honestly think they would be any better this time? |
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Post by henry on Nov 15, 2019 8:14:43 GMT
Free broadband sir, no problem. That’s just a one off payment of £5000 to have the router installed.
I can install the router
Sorry sir, union rules state one of our engineers has to do it
Ok, can you come next week
Sorry sir, the engineers have a planned strike
BTW I’m on the dole, do I still have to pay?
No sir, the family next door will pay for yours.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 15, 2019 8:22:29 GMT
I've no idea if it's a " good" or workable policy or not but..... Why not free food for everyone and let Macdonalds, Costa and Starbucks pay? Utilities have never been free But if you are going to dish out free utilities make it water or gas. Not free connections for Netflix |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 8:32:37 GMT
Corbyn is a moron and so is anyone who votes for him
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 15, 2019 8:40:42 GMT
Traditional Labour voters give Conservative PM a frosty reception in the the middle of a flood crisis and a lefty journo gives his opinion that Boris isn't very good - shocker. That article mentions the Somerset levels flooding but the link just talks about flood defence promises from the Lib Dems and 3 out 7 of the proposed projects were arguably'up North'. This 'if the floods were in Surrey Boris would call a national disaster' is pure bollocks. My sister lives in Swaledale. She helped clean houses after the floods in Reeth. Her MP, Rishi Sunak was there at the beginning middle and end. The World Road cycling race was diverted because of flooding which costs locals 100's if thousands. Sunak was there. There have already been bridge repairs with emergency money from Westminster. Sunak was heckled. The Somerset Levels were on a different scale. The "money no object" quote from Cameron was regarding a 20 year £100 million plan. Labour spin and lies. Here's Milliband getting heckled by the local MP in Somerset When you've finished ranting (and perhaps read the article), you'll see that Robyn Vinter is making the point that Johnson's actions (or inaction in this case) may well cost him a majority in Parliament. In contrast to Cameron, who as she points out cancelled a trip to the middle east to visit the Somerset flood victims. Im not ranting. I'm just putting some honesty behind a Guardian journo's spin. Cameron wasn't in the middle of an election campaign and the Somerset flooding was much worse. |
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Post by butlerstbob on Nov 15, 2019 8:41:03 GMT
Why doesn't Corbyn offer free Gym membership to the uk? surely that would go some way to alleviate some of the huge issues with the NHS and not add to them with free broadband!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 15, 2019 8:45:58 GMT
Her ISIS husband was Dutch apparently so there's an option for her plus having a Bangladeshi mother allows her to obtain that nationality as well. Funny how this 16 year old is naive, brainwashed and vulnerable but Labour are pushing for the vote for 16 year olds. Begum was 15. You can be brainwashed at any age, but she was legally not old enough to make that decision rationally. Voting is slightly different, if you can pay tax/NI, you should be able to vote for representation in parliament. So she was still brainwashed at 16 and 17? Interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 8:50:56 GMT
Why doesn't Corbyn offer free Gym membership to the uk? surely that would go some way to alleviate some of the huge issues with the NHS and not add to them with free broadband! Because the Labour party think they can bribe the poor or uneducated with false promises.That's how they've always operated,often quite successfully. |
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 15, 2019 8:53:21 GMT
Why doesn't Corbyn offer free Gym membership to the uk? surely that would go some way to alleviate some of the huge issues with the NHS and not add to them with free broadband! Let’s have free TV as well. It is clearly a social injustice that people have to pay to watch these new tangled TV services. Take over Sky and Virgin as well as BT. Ban Netflix, Amazon, Disney etc. |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Nov 15, 2019 9:05:56 GMT
Why doesn't Corbyn offer free Gym membership to the uk? surely that would go some way to alleviate some of the huge issues with the NHS and not add to them with free broadband! Because the Labour party think they can bribe the poor or uneducated with false promises.That's how they've always operated,often quite successfully. That's just what it is: bribery. It's laughable to think the electorate will fall for such a cheap trick. I mean they haven't even made any attempt to disguise it or dress it up. If it is such a great idea why didn't they announce it 6 months ago or 18 months ago? Oh, I just remembered there's a general election in 4 weeks. This tells you all you need to know about what Labour thinks of us all. Utter contempt, that's what. What other conclusion can you reach? |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 15, 2019 9:06:51 GMT
And now is the time to share the benefits,O and make them pay their taxes. The problem with all due respect Eggy nationalised industries were terrible, inefficient and in general ruined by powerful unions last time out. Do you honestly think they would be any better this time? Yes I do there is no way the people would accept it.The out and out aggressive capitalism cannot continue at its present rate,the people are suffering and there is enough wealth in the country (and world)to put this right. I do not for one bit like more government control and rule over the people but we have to draw a line somewhere.There is so much money what could be put back in to society but it is just drained off in to private tax free havens and foreign companies. As for unions well thatcher put them to bed. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 15, 2019 9:07:40 GMT
An interest point on QT Last night. A lady suggested that with labour and Tory continually talking bollocks about the NHS it should be taken off the politicians hands.
I don’t know how that would work maybe Running independently to parliment like the Bank of England and interest rates. Answerable to government but not controlled by it
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Post by thevoid on Nov 15, 2019 9:07:45 GMT
Wonder how long it'll take before they have to retract it, just like their promise of wiping student debt? It's easy to promise free unicorns when you're in opposition  |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 15, 2019 9:09:00 GMT
Why doesn't Corbyn offer free Gym membership to the uk? surely that would go some way to alleviate some of the huge issues with the NHS and not add to them with free broadband! Because the Labour party think they can bribe the poor or uneducated with false promises.That's how they've always operated,often quite successfully. Wow, can you give an example to this how this opposition have lied and bribed the people? I could start with tory lies but I have a life and there isnt enough time for it. |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 15, 2019 9:12:01 GMT
Wonder how long it'll take before they have to retract it, just like their promise of wiping student debt? It's easy to promise free unicorns when you're in opposition So you are comparing Blairs government to todays opposition. Living in the past again, you must try to keep up you know I know its hard but try. |
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Post by Davef on Nov 15, 2019 9:12:51 GMT
When you've finished ranting (and perhaps read the article), you'll see that Robyn Vinter is making the point that Johnson's actions (or inaction in this case) may well cost him a majority in Parliament. In contrast to Cameron, who as she points out cancelled a trip to the middle east to visit the Somerset flood victims. Im not ranting. I'm just putting some honesty behind a Guardian journo's spin. Cameron wasn't in the middle of an election campaign and the Somerset flooding was much worse. What has Johnson being in the middle of an election campaign got to do with anything? He is the sitting Prime Minister and couldn't be arsed to get his sorry backside up to Yorkshire to show support for people desperately in need. The man's a waste of space. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 15, 2019 9:12:58 GMT
Anyone in here work for BT Open Reach?
Got any shares?
Thoughts?
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Post by foster on Nov 15, 2019 9:19:26 GMT
Wonder how long it'll take before they have to retract it, just like their promise of wiping student debt? It's easy to promise free unicorns when you're in opposition So you are comparing Blairs government to todays opposition. Living in the past again, you must try to keep up you know I know its hard but try. All the parties are offering empty promises, but the one I want to see most is higher taxation on high earners. The money for all these freebies has to come from somewhere and taxing the less well-off more just so you can offer them something 'free' in return (which they pay for with those extra taxes anyway) isn't the right way to go about it EDIT: ...and they should deffo get a proper digital tax in place for those massive tech companies wiping out the traditional high street. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 15, 2019 9:19:30 GMT
Yeah, I can't agree with that. No one who's left to fight or support ISIS should be allowed back... and anyone supporting them here should be kicked out as well. It's treason in my opinion and their nationality should be revoked without question. If her family want to see her then they can go to wherever she is. Her ISIS husband was Dutch apparently so there's an option for her plus having a Bangladeshi mother allows her to obtain that nationality as well. Funny how this 16 year old is naive, brainwashed and vulnerable but Labour are pushing for the vote for 16 year olds. Correct - a couple of weeks ago she was trying to sponge of the state over here, but I'm unsure of the current status as to her whereabouts. Just turf her off back to Syria and save everybody a lot of time and money. They let any fucker in over here - even me !!!! |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 15, 2019 9:22:01 GMT
Im not ranting. I'm just putting some honesty behind a Guardian journo's spin. Cameron wasn't in the middle of an election campaign and the Somerset flooding was much worse. What has Johnson being in the middle of an election campaign got to do with anything? He is the sitting Prime Minister and couldn't be arsed to get his sorry backside up to Yorkshire to show support for people desperately in need. The man's a waste of space. The flooding started on 24th December 2013. Cameron cancelled his Middle East visit in the middle of February 2014. I get it, you don't like Boris but stop believing the spin. Cameron arrives 7 weeks later - The Guardian |
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speechless. Gotta laugh though
