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Post by yeokel on Nov 11, 2019 10:12:51 GMT
As the saying goes, “ If you haven’t been a socialist by the time you are 20 years old, you don’t have a heart. If you are still a socialist by the time you are 30 years old, you don’t have a brain.” So it seems that we have either some quite young posters on here, or some not so bright ones. In the name of accuracy it was the serial liar and morally dubious Churchill who said that and he said Liberal not Socialist. Carry on..... In the name of accuracy it, apparently, was not the serial liar and morally dubious Churchill who said that after all. Not Churchill QuotesCarry on..... |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 11, 2019 10:15:47 GMT
In the name of accuracy it was the serial liar and morally dubious Churchill who said that and he said Liberal not Socialist. Carry on..... In the name of accuracy it, apparently, was not the serial liar and morally dubious Churchill who said that after all. Not Churchill QuotesCarry on..... So a man in Edinburgh says he didn't say it and everyone else does. Carry on  |
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Post by yeokel on Nov 11, 2019 10:28:07 GMT
In the name of accuracy it, apparently, was not the serial liar and morally dubious Churchill who said that after all. Not Churchill QuotesCarry on..... So a man in Edinburgh says he didn't say it and everyone else does. Carry on I stopped automatically believing in the reliability of wisdom of crowds many years ago. Not unlike yourself I suspect. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 11, 2019 10:40:03 GMT
She is a vile arrogant woman I’d go as far to say I dislike her more than I do Corbyn Mc and Abbott. For what’s it worth though I think it’s a great policy because the country won’t stomach it and it keeps them out of government. How can you say you have a great deal but campaign against it. Idiocy it was always going to be difficult for labour to have a brexit position that didn’t alienate a chunk of their support, however they’ve opted for a position that’s going to alienate both labour leave and remain voters and I can’t see many floating voters seeing this as attractive. I disagree. Labour should be for the working classes with policies that they hope the middle classes and above can jump on board. Blair changed it to a party for the middle classes hoping this would have a knock on effect for the labour working classes Labour should always have been the party for hard brexit tempered by a good deal from the EU |
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Post by serpico on Nov 11, 2019 10:58:45 GMT
it was always going to be difficult for labour to have a brexit position that didn’t alienate a chunk of their support, however they’ve opted for a position that’s going to alienate both labour leave and remain voters and I can’t see many floating voters seeing this as attractive. I disagree. Labour should be for the working classes with policies that they hope the middle classes and above can jump on board. Blair changed it to a party for the middle classes hoping this would have a knock on effect for the labour working classes Labour should always have been the party for hard brexit tempered by a good deal from the EU what they should be and what they currently are, are two different matters, currently there is a split in labour support, they're mostly remain but a sizeable chunk are working class leavers, corbyns labour has tried to placate both sides of this split but has failed to placate either, many remainers will see swinsons position far more attractive than labours and leavers have the option of the brexit party or even the tories. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 11, 2019 12:15:59 GMT
sounds like Farage is softening, won't compete for the 300 odd seats won by tories at last election.
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Post by serpico on Nov 11, 2019 12:20:08 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 11, 2019 12:22:48 GMT
sounds like Farage is softening, won't compete for the 300 odd seats won by tories at last election. Apparently their support is dropping off a cliff candidates are getting overwhelmed with emails saying they would split the vote and end up with no brexit now not an issue, looks like Labour will be promising more free stuff to everyone...... |
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Post by lordb on Nov 11, 2019 12:23:00 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Nov 11, 2019 12:26:11 GMT
Farage not contesting any Tory seats. Only labour seats
Game over for Labour
Anything libs and plaid do in wales has just been trumped by Nigel
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Post by Northy on Nov 11, 2019 12:27:09 GMT
I'd read on Friday there was a secret meeting going on this weekend/early today between tories and BXP, there was fear that tories could lose a few seats in the south because of the leave vote splitting and moderates going to the lib dems, which is still a possibility with Swinson's leave stance. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 11, 2019 12:27:13 GMT
sounds like Farage is softening, won't compete for the 300 odd seats won by tories at last election. Apparently their support is dropping off a cliff candidates are getting overwhelmed with emails saying they would split the vote and end up with no brexit now not an issue, looks like Labour will be promising more free stuff to everyone...... yep, it reflects how worried some are of the possibility of letting Corbyn (in coalition with he libdems) in through the back door and scuppering Brexit altogether. Farage is saying Boris' plan to go for a canada plus deal helped him make his mind up. |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 11, 2019 12:27:57 GMT
The tories and The brexit Party join forces to become The British Union of Fascists
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Post by salopstick on Nov 11, 2019 12:28:36 GMT
No deal is better than a shit deal
But
Boris Brexit is better than no Brexit
Farage knows this
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Post by salopstick on Nov 11, 2019 12:29:54 GMT
The tories and The brexit Party join forces to become The British Union of Fascists What a load of Bollocks |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 11, 2019 12:31:27 GMT
The tories and The brexit Party join forces to become The British Union of Fascists What a load of Bollocks In your opinion.I stand by my opinion.  |
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 11, 2019 12:31:56 GMT
Apparently their support is dropping off a cliff candidates are getting overwhelmed with emails saying they would split the vote and end up with no brexit now not an issue, looks like Labour will be promising more free stuff to everyone...... yep, it reflects how worried some are of the possibility of letting Corbyn (in coalition with he libdems) in through the back door and scuppering Brexit altogether. Farage is saying Boris' plan to go for a canada plus deal helped him make his mind up. Farage had to look for a way to stand down and save face, Tories wouldn't offer any sort of deal to brexit party. Right decision made. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 11, 2019 12:33:50 GMT
In a labour marginal where some won’t vote Tory this announcement splits the labour vote
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Post by Northy on Nov 11, 2019 12:48:49 GMT
The Pirate Party aren't standing any candidates in this election, I'm at a loss this time, looks like Esther McVey will get a clear run at Tatton
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 11, 2019 12:54:51 GMT
That's the Tories home safely with some sort of majority then. The question becomes how big? Has there been a more worthless political party than the Brexit Party. They've rallied Nige's disciples to believe that anything other than no deal is not Brexit, and in the space of a week Farage has declined to stand due to the party plummeting in the polls, and are now trying their hardest to win a majority for a party that will deliver a deal that they insist is not Brexit. Can they not change their name at least - the BRINO Party maybe? EDIT: In answer to my own question - I forgot about the Independent Group for Change. They were more pointless. |
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Post by serpico on Nov 11, 2019 13:09:31 GMT
yep, it reflects how worried some are of the possibility of letting Corbyn (in coalition with he libdems) in through the back door and scuppering Brexit altogether. Farage is saying Boris' plan to go for a canada plus deal helped him make his mind up. Farage had to look for a way to stand down and save face, Tories wouldn't offer any sort of deal to brexit party. Right decision made. The Tories probably told Farage “we’ll give you an out by mentioning a Canada plus deal” |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 13:10:41 GMT
Farage. What a cnut! Doesn't agree with Boris' Brexit deal, but is now helping to get him to win. Two faced tweot. I voted leave, but I've now changed my mind. Do not trust these money obsessed men. The effing rich can look after themselves! The working classes will suffer again under these greedy gets! Horrible people! Rant over!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 11, 2019 13:12:52 GMT
The tories and The brexit Party join forces to become The British Union of Fascists What a load of Bollocks Absolute pisser, isn't it? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 13:12:56 GMT
The Pirate Party aren't standing any candidates in this election, I'm at a loss this time, looks like Esther McVey will get a clear run at Tatton Surprised by this, they were above Change UK in the polls as well..... |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 11, 2019 13:15:01 GMT
In a labour marginal where some won’t vote Tory this announcement splits the labour vote Brought it on themselves for not backing Brexit. |
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Post by Northy on Nov 11, 2019 13:16:24 GMT
The Pirate Party aren't standing any candidates in this election, I'm at a loss this time, looks like Esther McVey will get a clear run at Tatton Surprised by this, they were above Change UK in the polls as well..... One man and his dog were above Change UK  |
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Post by Billy the kid on Nov 11, 2019 13:22:46 GMT
So Farage has basically given up on brexit, if it means that no Brexit Party candidate is standing for the moorlands then I wont bother casting a vote, I cant stomach Karen Bradley.
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Post by smallthorner on Nov 11, 2019 13:23:49 GMT
So...
So it's a Conservative Government with a smallish but workable majority.
With a very very soft Brexit.
Toss-pot Farage couldn't even go through with it at the end of the day.
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Post by Billy the kid on Nov 11, 2019 13:30:04 GMT
So... So it's a Conservative Government with a smallish but workable majority. With a very very soft Brexit. Toss-pot Farage couldn't even go through with it at the end of the day. Feels very much like sold down the river by mr brexit himself. We may aswell pack up and revoke a50 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 13:30:28 GMT
The tories and The brexit Party join forces to become The British Union of Fascists Seriously? or is it just a lame joke? You do realise that Labour in 2017 had it in there manifesto to uphold the result of what was originally billed as the once in a lifetime vote on to be in or out of the EU. Does this mean the Labour party are fascists as well? The millions of voters in Labours heartlands who voted to leave the EU, again are they all fascists? |
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