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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2019 11:23:54 GMT
Yes, the new Christmas drama is going to be weeks of Labour infighting. It'll be mighty. The Hard Left has infiltrated all parts of the party from the Leaders office down and won't want a more Blairite replacement. Stephen Bush from the New Statesman, who's a lefty I recommend people follow, was talking about this the other day. He reckoned Cameron was a consummate politician with great people skills and it even took him a period of opposition and a period of coalition until he reversed the disastrous 2005 GE result. Bush reckons this is worse for Labour than 2005 was for the Conservatives. So who is Labour's Cameron for the future? I don't think Boris has to do much to keep his majority. He should go on a 'Northern Thank You' Tour and deliver on his promises to his new supporters first. Dyed in the wool Con voters will be happy enough there are no major tax rises on the horizon. If Boris cuts corporation tax and floods the Midlands, North and Wales with funding he'll be fine. That is pretty much all he has to do, show some love for his new found fan base and like you say, the long term torys will follow. Beat me to it Billy, Labour have taken their voters for granted and eventually they have turned on the incompetent twats. Stoke-on-Trent has improved locally under a Tory coalition Council since 2018, people I know who are historically labour voters from Stoke have commented on it. |
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 14, 2019 11:26:35 GMT
Yes, the new Christmas drama is going to be weeks of Labour infighting. It'll be mighty. The Hard Left has infiltrated all parts of the party from the Leaders office down and won't want a more Blairite replacement. Stephen Bush from the New Statesman, who's a lefty I recommend people follow, was talking about this the other day. He reckoned Cameron was a consummate politician with great people skills and it even took him a period of opposition and a period of coalition until he reversed the disastrous 2005 GE result. Bush reckons this is worse for Labour than 2005 was for the Conservatives. So who is Labour's Cameron for the future? I don't think Boris has to do much to keep his majority. He should go on a 'Northern Thank You' Tour and deliver on his promises to his new supporters first. Dyed in the wool Con voters will be happy enough there are no major tax rises on the horizon. If Boris cuts corporation tax and floods the Midlands, North and Wales with funding he'll be fine. Bang on it's that simple, will he do it though ? he has to show these people that he is not taking their vote for granted. I think he will he did it in Labour London as Mayor. Labour have turned into some weird cult where you cant laugh at Bernard Manning or Love thy Neighbour, and you cant object to Derek getting into his trunks next to my lady at the swimming baths because he says he's Doreen. They have turned and demonized the working class in favour of the Uni strokers. |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Dec 14, 2019 11:38:51 GMT
John Grace in yesterday's Guardian....
"Back home in Islington, Jeremy Corbyn was equally bewildered at the way the night had turned out. More in sadness than in anger, the Labour leader tried to explain how the real victim of his party’s failure had been him. He was the misunderstood Messiah. A man out of time. Too good for this world. Just give him another 1,000 years and the country would come to realise the salvation that had been offered in his party’s manifesto. His one regret was that he had not been even more radical. Perhaps then the people might have seen the light and not been distracted by Brexit.
Corbyn sighed, willing his stigmata to bleed. It was time for him to move on. Though not quite yet. A period of reflection on the divine mysteries of his complete uselessness was required. Replacing someone as enlightened as him could not be rushed. Someone who would take the road less travelled of making the party unelectable for another 10 years. So why not give the Tories a free ride for several months while Labour tore itself to pieces? There was madness in his method."
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2019 11:50:49 GMT
John Grace in yesterday's Guardian.... "Back home in Islington, Jeremy Corbyn was equally bewildered at the way the night had turned out. More in sadness than in anger, the Labour leader tried to explain how the real victim of his party’s failure had been him. He was the misunderstood Messiah. A man out of time. Too good for this world. Just give him another 1,000 years and the country would come to realise the salvation that had been offered in his party’s manifesto. His one regret was that he had not been even more radical. Perhaps then the people might have seen the light and not been distracted by Brexit. Corbyn sighed, willing his stigmata to bleed. It was time for him to move on. Though not quite yet. A period of reflection on the divine mysteries of his complete uselessness was required. Replacing someone as enlightened as him could not be rushed. Someone who would take the road less travelled of making the party unelectable for another 10 years. So why not give the Tories a free ride for several months while Labour tore itself to pieces? There was madness in his method." He's as deluded as the loony feckers wandering around the streets whinging, crying, screaming, waving placards and bitching protesting against democracy because they lost a democratic election  what do they teach our kids anything at school  |
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Post by dannymadeley30 on Dec 14, 2019 11:51:15 GMT
At last. Someone has actually fessed up. Do you think they’ll get what they voted for & even if they get a scrap of what they wanted, how much $#!t do you think they’ll have to swallow. This is a classic lose/lose situation, done under the guise of democracy. Pig in a poke anyone... Nobody knows but we voted for change. The left have lost. We rolled the dice to a new era. Trump has promised a trade deal bigger than the eu deal. Happy days. You voted to end the NHS and remove employment rights. |
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Post by dannymadeley30 on Dec 14, 2019 11:53:47 GMT
Now the dust has settled how is everyone feeling? I'm happy with the result obviously but more relieved there'll be no more voting for a while. still pretty shocked at the size of the win for the tories, i thought it would be closer, I knew Labour were shitting the bed on Brexit but i didn't think it would harm them this much. I'm not a tory so am not massively elated at them getting into power, i've a suspicion they'll probably end up governing like Blair did, 3rd way type stuff, brexit will probably be a quasi brexit, but i'm just happy the state socialists didn't win, that would = no brexit at all and a swelling public sector which would need massive tax payers money to sustain and would inevitably come crashing down in 4-5 years time under a mountain of debt and spending. Absolutely not, Raab and Patel are hardcore Thatcherites. Do you really think that the NHS will remain free at the point of use, that workplace regulations won't be smashed, that the top rate of tax won't be abolished ?? |
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 14, 2019 11:55:57 GMT
still pretty shocked at the size of the win for the tories, i thought it would be closer, I knew Labour were shitting the bed on Brexit but i didn't think it would harm them this much. I'm not a tory so am not massively elated at them getting into power, i've a suspicion they'll probably end up governing like Blair did, 3rd way type stuff, brexit will probably be a quasi brexit, but i'm just happy the state socialists didn't win, that would = no brexit at all and a swelling public sector which would need massive tax payers money to sustain and would inevitably come crashing down in 4-5 years time under a mountain of debt and spending. Absolutely not, Raab and Patel are hardcore Thatcherites. Do you really think that the NHS will remain free at the point of use, that workplace regulations won't be smashed, that the top rate of tax won't be abolished ?? Hysterical bullshit. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2019 11:57:55 GMT
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Post by algor on Dec 14, 2019 12:02:02 GMT
still pretty shocked at the size of the win for the tories, i thought it would be closer, I knew Labour were shitting the bed on Brexit but i didn't think it would harm them this much. I'm not a tory so am not massively elated at them getting into power, i've a suspicion they'll probably end up governing like Blair did, 3rd way type stuff, brexit will probably be a quasi brexit, but i'm just happy the state socialists didn't win, that would = no brexit at all and a swelling public sector which would need massive tax payers money to sustain and would inevitably come crashing down in 4-5 years time under a mountain of debt and spending. Absolutely not, Raab and Patel are hardcore Thatcherites. Do you really think that the NHS will remain free at the point of use, that workplace regulations won't be smashed, that the top rate of tax won't be abolished ?? More prating drivel & bunk! You really are full of it! |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2019 12:04:52 GMT
Actually Boris has come from a working majority of minus 41. Swinson gone and Labour just about to fight like cats in a hemp tote bag from Islington waitrose. Does anyone still care that Boris didn't speak to Andrew Neil? Does anyone even remember? Typical Dom. Another big issue really Rog, the MSM think they run the country/ set the agenda at times. And the level of rudeness/ interruptions in interviews in order to keep to THEIR agenda is disgraceful. The MSM..... |
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Post by claytonscrubs on Dec 14, 2019 12:05:18 GMT
Don’t mess with democracy is the single message that this picture sends. It should be made law that any MP that quits a party automatically triggers a by-election.
Enjoy your political retirement guys, you really did make a big change to British politics.
Karma!!
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 14, 2019 12:05:38 GMT
Absolutely not, Raab and Patel are hardcore Thatcherites. Do you really think that the NHS will remain free at the point of use, that workplace regulations won't be smashed, that the top rate of tax won't be abolished ?? More prating drivel & bunk! You really are full of it! Its ridiculous bollocks they are brainwashed. |
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 14, 2019 12:11:57 GMT
Another big issue really Rog, the MSM think they run the country/ set the agenda at times. And the level of rudeness/ interruptions in interviews in order to keep to THEIR agenda is disgraceful. The MSM..... To be fair I'm a sucker for a pair of big tits, no pun intended. |
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Post by zerps on Dec 14, 2019 12:12:43 GMT
Nobody knows but we voted for change. The left have lost. We rolled the dice to a new era. Trump has promised a trade deal bigger than the eu deal. Happy days. You voted to end the NHS and remove employment rights. Can’t remember doing that? |
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 14, 2019 12:16:13 GMT
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Post by dannymadeley30 on Dec 14, 2019 12:24:32 GMT
You voted to end the NHS and remove employment rights. Can’t remember doing that? Well you have and that's what will happen. And you and the others fully deserve it. |
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Post by zerps on Dec 14, 2019 12:28:26 GMT
Can’t remember doing that? Well you have and that's what will happen. And you and the others fully deserve it. Maybe you can get a full frontal lobotomy on the nhs before it’s sold to give you a bit more personality? |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 14, 2019 12:30:30 GMT
Don’t mess with democracy is the single message that this picture sends. It should be made law that any MP that quits a party automatically triggers a by-election. Enjoy your political retirement guys, you really did make a big change to British politics. Karma!! You are spot on about bi-elections It has to prove did we elect the person or party |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 14, 2019 12:30:46 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 14, 2019 12:32:34 GMT
Can’t remember doing that? Well you have and that's what will happen. And you and the others fully deserve it. I hope they do investigate where the money is spent within the NHS, they need to target areas of waste and blatant misuse of funds, stop treating people who are not eligible, stop health tourism, abandon PFI funding, a root and branch approach to management. |
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 14, 2019 12:32:39 GMT
Well you have and that's what will happen. And you and the others fully deserve it. Maybe you can get a full frontal lobotomy on the nhs before it’s sold to give you a bit more personality? I think he may already have had one. |
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 14, 2019 12:34:34 GMT
Now the dust has settled how is everyone feeling? I'm happy with the result obviously but more relieved there'll be no more voting for a while. You not voting for the next labour leader Rog gotta to get your £3s worth  |
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Post by butlerstbob on Dec 14, 2019 12:37:51 GMT
Can’t remember doing that? Well you have and that's what will happen. And you and the others fully deserve it. You really are an angry person and you really are not taking this well are you? Every thread it's "chav flag shaggers who deserve to suffer under the tories the most and I hope they do" & "Hope they bring back the poll tax as well" etc etc Why do you want the people of Stoke on Trent to suffer? Me regardless of who people voted for or what their beliefs are I really hope they prosper in Stoke on Trent! |
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Post by zerps on Dec 14, 2019 12:40:42 GMT
Maybe you can get a full frontal lobotomy on the nhs before it’s sold to give you a bit more personality? I think he may already have had one. Can you get a reversal on the nhs? |
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 14, 2019 12:40:57 GMT
Absolutely not, Raab and Patel are hardcore Thatcherites. Do you really think that the NHS will remain free at the point of use, that workplace regulations won't be smashed, that the top rate of tax won't be abolished ?? Hysterical bullshit. I was at Stoke hospital friday and actually heard 2 nursing staff say, there was a lot of uncertainity now as they didn't know if the hospital would be sold FFS ! Didnt have the heart to tell them it couldn't be sold as we didnt own it to begin with thanks to PFI......... |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Dec 14, 2019 12:42:39 GMT
Aye Up! Boris must read the Oatie  He is doing a Northern Thank You Tour. Wonder if he'll come to Stoke?? |
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 14, 2019 12:46:05 GMT
Another one bites the dust, rare self awareness that everything said about Corbyn would apply to him too looks like Wrong Daily will be pushed as the chosen one.....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 14, 2019 12:46:28 GMT
Damning, Rog. The Sedgefield MP said the same, almost word for word. It wasn't just Brexit. |
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 14, 2019 12:56:32 GMT
Another one bites the dust, rare self awareness that everything said about Corbyn would apply to him too looks like Wrong Daily will be pushed as the chosen one..... He has done his bit he's fucked it ALL up 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 12:56:44 GMT
Have the losers accepted the blame yet? or are they all blaming it on the conservatives forage and trump?
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what do they teach our kids anything at school 
