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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:19:49 GMT
Ok, then Stoke is a more popular place to visit than Manchester and Leeds? Really? "Earlier this year the latest UK Cities House Price Index revealed that house prices in Stoke-on-Trent were rising by 7.4 per cent year-on-year – making it the sixth highest on increases when compared with 65 other cities. And last year Stoke-on-Trent was named the 11th best cultural place to live in the UK by the Sunday Times, while Money Supermarket ranked the city as the 10th best place to bring up a family. Stoke-on-Trent has also been ranked fourth in the country for employment growth by UK Powerhouse – City Growth Tracker." These Tories, what have they ever done for us? www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/stoke-trents-poverty-epidemic-could-3086796.ampWorking in low paid jobs that don’t pay enough to pay the bills. Lovely! Long live zero hours contracts and low wages, our schools not having any money and struggling to get a GP appointment. Can’t wait!
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 29, 2019 22:22:24 GMT
You have answered your own question mate. "is that Corbyn is a terrorist, commie, racist grandpa" He doesn't need any biased media to show this! Laying flowers, Iranian TV interviews, The manifesto, a 70 year old man who is clearly an anti semitic. He doesn't really need any help from the media does he. I have no issue with the Labour party just the current lot who have hijacked it! He’s anti Zionist, mate. There isn’t a racist bone is his body. Do some digging, he has been on the right side of history, every time . Have a look a little closer . Then have a look at the original question. Has he fuck been on the right side of history every time. Follow the link here is denying the genocide in Kosovo siding with Milsovic, no surprise McDonnell also sigbed. Salisbury lets send it to the russians to see if it is them, Syria denied the gas attacks happened too. Always on the right side of history ha ha ha
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 29, 2019 22:24:02 GMT
Are you suggesting people might have seen through Labour? I’m suggesting that maybe up north people may start voting against what they traditionally did Many now see labour as a more London centric party Totally agree.
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 29, 2019 22:25:50 GMT
Calm down guys, many have asked why the working class people of Stoke on Trent would vote Tory, I've just posted a possible reason. Stoke is on the up and it might just be coincidence that it's happening under a Tory government.......
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 29, 2019 22:29:54 GMT
"Earlier this year the latest UK Cities House Price Index revealed that house prices in Stoke-on-Trent were rising by 7.4 per cent year-on-year – making it the sixth highest on increases when compared with 65 other cities. And last year Stoke-on-Trent was named the 11th best cultural place to live in the UK by the Sunday Times, while Money Supermarket ranked the city as the 10th best place to bring up a family. Stoke-on-Trent has also been ranked fourth in the country for employment growth by UK Powerhouse – City Growth Tracker." These Tories, what have they ever done for us? www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/stoke-trents-poverty-epidemic-could-3086796.ampWorking in low paid jobs that don’t pay enough to pay the bills. Lovely! Long live zero hours contracts and low wages, our schools not having any money and struggling to get a GP appointment. Can’t wait! Zero hours contracts aren't exclusive to the Tories, and GP appointments might be harder to get because of ludicrous levels of immigration? Low wages have been exacerbated by the EU, or at least happened while we have been in it. Corbyn agreed,until he went carbon neutral.
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 22:31:01 GMT
He’s anti Zionist, mate. There isn’t a racist bone is his body. Do some digging, he has been on the right side of history, every time . Have a look a little closer . Then have a look at the original question. Has he fuck been on the right side of history every time. Follow the link here is denying the genocide in Kosovo siding with Milsovic, no surprise McDonnell also sigbed. Salisbury lets send it to the russians to see if it is them, Syria denied the gas attacks happened too. Always on the right side of history ha ha ha A lot to input, without you presenting any evidence to support your views. Milosivic was found innocent of all crimes in the international court of justice, before he died in his cell. Dig a little deeper. Again, we are getting off the debate of what the tories have promised to Stoke to make things better, compared to Labours manifesto.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:31:45 GMT
He’s anti Zionist, mate. There isn’t a racist bone is his body. Do some digging, he has been on the right side of history, every time . Have a look a little closer . Then have a look at the original question. Has he fuck been on the right side of history every time. Follow the link here is denying the genocide in Kosovo siding with Milsovic, no surprise McDonnell also sigbed. Salisbury lets send it to the russians to see if it is them, Syria denied the gas attacks happened too. Always on the right side of history ha ha ha Against militarily invention because he believed it should only have been used as a last report but the comments were in response to this ruling: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1530781.stmRight or wrong. I’m not saying I disagree and it is an example of where he has fallen on the wrong side of history but perhaps one of the very few. At least he doesn’t sell arms to Saudi Arabia knowing the atrocities they are committing in Yemen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:34:36 GMT
Zero hours contracts aren't exclusive to the Tories, and GP appointments might be harder to get because of ludicrous levels of immigration? Low wages have been exacerbated by the EU, or at least happened while we have been in it. Corbyn agreed,until he went carbon neutral. Labours manifesto pledges to end zero hours contracts. Boris will not agree to commit to protecting workers rights in the deal. This is why many Labour MPs refused to vote for it and what the Stoke MPs were campaigning for. Fully agree that being in the EU and immigration fuels low wages. Always has done ever since the Irish were brought over to break the strikes in the Mills. One of the most important things Labour have neglected to tackle in their case for staying in the EU. However what is and what always has been the real problem? The factory owners not paying the workers their fair share and taking all the profits...
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 22:35:12 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 29, 2019 22:41:49 GMT
Has he fuck been on the right side of history every time. Follow the link here is denying the genocide in Kosovo siding with Milsovic, no surprise McDonnell also sigbed. Salisbury lets send it to the russians to see if it is them, Syria denied the gas attacks happened too. Always on the right side of history ha ha ha A lot to input, without you presenting any evidence to support your views. Milosivic was found innocent of all crimes in the international court of justice, before he died in his cell. Dig a little deeper. A gain, we are getting off the debate of what the tories have promised to Stoke to make things better, compared to Labours manifesto.Actions speak louder than words www.stoke.gov.uk/news/article/314/stoke-on-trent_named_in_top_20_of_britain_s_most_popular_cities
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:43:58 GMT
Go for a walk around mate and tell us if you think it’s got better in the last ten years. Take the homeless people in Hanley a cup of tea and sandwich on your way 😉 maybe drop the rest of the tea bags and the bread off at a food bank?
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 29, 2019 22:45:09 GMT
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 22:46:44 GMT
That link has been posted twice, now.
Stoke isn’t more popular than Leeds,Manchester and London
I’m glad you are happy with how it’s going. It must be all that investment from the Conservative party that has created this boom.
Apologies for my sarcasm, but we can all see the reality.
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 29, 2019 22:47:34 GMT
Go for a walk around mate and tell us if you think it’s got better in the last ten years. Take the homeless people in Hanley a cup of tea and sandwich on your way 😉 maybe drop the rest of the tea bags and the bread off at a food bank? How do you know that I don't? Do you?
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Nov 29, 2019 22:49:01 GMT
Which is more important than free broadband And there you have it Free broadband? That’s all you have taken from the manifesto? Come on, dig deeper, rather than the Daily Mail/Sun headlines . What do you think about the increased spending on the NHS, police, and getting rid of tax evasion for the rich,which would bring in an extra £673 million a week,if we closed those loop holes? Alternatively, the rich will say fuck this for a game of shotties and move to a jurisdiction more favorable to their excessive wealth. You are talking about the most financially agile of people, your 673 million would disappear like a rat up a drainpipe. Who pays for all the freebies after? By the way, I'm not being antagonistic, just a financial realist.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 29, 2019 22:49:01 GMT
Go for a walk around mate and tell us if you think it’s got better in the last ten years. Take the homeless people in Hanley a cup of tea and sandwich on your way 😉 maybe drop the rest of the tea bags and the bread off at a food bank? Things have got worse, but I am not sure why. It may be a combination of things. I have been on my arse, recently, and I've never been directed to a food bank. How do you qualify?
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 22:49:18 GMT
Again, look at the detail of both articles.
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 22:52:16 GMT
Free broadband? That’s all you have taken from the manifesto? Come on, dig deeper, rather than the Daily Mail/Sun headlines . What do you think about the increased spending on the NHS, police, and getting rid of tax evasion for the rich,which would bring in an extra £673 million a week,if we closed those loop holes? Alternatively, the rich will say fuck this for a game of shotties and move to a jurisdiction more favorable to their excessive wealth. You are talking about the most financially agile of people, your 673 million would disappear like a rat up a drainpipe. Who pays for all the freebies after? By the way, I'm not being antagonistic, just a financial realist. You’re right, but Brexit has already started that particular ball to roll. Off topic, which is ok. Nobody seems to able to argue about the original point. What have the tories promised that will improve Stoke?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 22:57:40 GMT
Go for a walk around mate and tell us if you think it’s got better in the last ten years. Take the homeless people in Hanley a cup of tea and sandwich on your way 😉 maybe drop the rest of the tea bags and the bread off at a food bank? Things have got worse, but I am not sure why. It may be a combination of things. I have been on my arse, recently, and I've never been directed to a food bank. How do you qualify? I believe you can just go if you need to. Sorry to hear you were on your arse. Hope things are getting better.
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 22:58:04 GMT
Go for a walk around mate and tell us if you think it’s got better in the last ten years. Take the homeless people in Hanley a cup of tea and sandwich on your way 😉 maybe drop the rest of the tea bags and the bread off at a food bank? Things have got worse, but I am not sure why. It may be a combination of things. I have been on my arse, recently, and I've never been directed to a food bank. How do you qualify? Great point. It’s a number of things. It seems that austerity was bollocks. Whilst cutting back on public services, it tripled the national debt, which slowed growth. We went from the fastest growing economy in the G7 to the worst. We are a service/consumer economy, which meant people had less money to spend . Public services were cut back at grass roots, which meant less police stations, community level based support at grass roots levels,which led to a rise in crime, particularly in the juvenile demographic.
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 29, 2019 23:01:25 GMT
Alternatively, the rich will say fuck this for a game of shotties and move to a jurisdiction more favorable to their excessive wealth. You are talking about the most financially agile of people, your 673 million would disappear like a rat up a drainpipe. Who pays for all the freebies after? By the way, I'm not being antagonistic, just a financial realist. You’re right, but Brexit has already started that particular ball to roll. Off topic, which is ok. Nobody seems to able to argue about the original point. What have the tories promised that will improve Stoke? What have Labour promised that will improve Stoke?
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 29, 2019 23:08:15 GMT
Has he fuck been on the right side of history every time. Follow the link here is denying the genocide in Kosovo siding with Milsovic, no surprise McDonnell also sigbed. Salisbury lets send it to the russians to see if it is them, Syria denied the gas attacks happened too. Always on the right side of history ha ha ha Against militarily invention because he believed it should only have been used as a last report but the comments were in response to this ruling: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1530781.stmRight or wrong. I’m not saying I disagree and it is an example of where he has fallen on the wrong side of history but perhaps one of the very few. At least he doesn’t sell arms to Saudi Arabia knowing the atrocities they are committing in Yemen. The EDM was in december 2004 2 years after that story, the people of Kosovo seem to disagree. Syria and Salisbury ?
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 29, 2019 23:09:00 GMT
Again, look at the detail of both articles. I have, the super rich pay a tad more than immigrants
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 23:13:23 GMT
You’re right, but Brexit has already started that particular ball to roll. Off topic, which is ok. Nobody seems to able to argue about the original point. What have the tories promised that will improve Stoke? What have Labour promised that will improve Stoke? Glad you asked. labour.org.uk/manifesto/rebuild-our-public-services/Although, I’m being a little bit naughty by posting that link. It’s a very ambitious plan. My issue with Corbyn is not that the money can’t be generated, and not that money can’t be made renationalising these sectors, its if he’s capable of running these sectors and make a profit. I work in the private sector , and know that such a plan requires a capitalist mentality. For example, I have always had the view that , flu drugs such as basic paracetamol, lemsip and basic antibiotics could be labelled as NHS drugs. Basic drugs like these are worth 3 billion a year to the economy. If all the profits made, were put back into the NHS, I believe a majority would buy them. I even had a tag line. “Working together, to protect forever” If Asda can sell paracetamol for 28p, why can’t we, and charge a little more, with the profits pumped back into the NHS?
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 23:14:10 GMT
Again, look at the detail of both articles. I have, the super rich pay a tad more than immigrants It’s an average, mate.
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 23:15:57 GMT
Against militarily invention because he believed it should only have been used as a last report but the comments were in response to this ruling: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1530781.stmRight or wrong. I’m not saying I disagree and it is an example of where he has fallen on the wrong side of history but perhaps one of the very few. At least he doesn’t sell arms to Saudi Arabia knowing the atrocities they are committing in Yemen. The EDM was in december 2004 2 years after that story, the people of Kosovo seem to disagree. Syria and Salisbury ?[/quote What about Syria and Salisbury? No problem in talking about this, but, again, we are digressing off the point.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 29, 2019 23:18:08 GMT
Has he fuck been on the right side of history every time. Follow the link here is denying the genocide in Kosovo siding with Milsovic, no surprise McDonnell also sigbed. Salisbury lets send it to the russians to see if it is them, Syria denied the gas attacks happened too. Always on the right side of history ha ha ha A lot to input, without you presenting any evidence to support your views. Milosivic was found innocent of all crimes in the international court of justice, before he died in his cell. Dig a little deeper. Again, we are getting off the debate of what the tories have promised to Stoke to make things better, compared to Labours manifesto. Innocent of all crimes except failing to stop a genocide and assist in bringing to justice those who committed the genocide who incidentially would have been the only people who could have linked him to the genocide directly, these arent really doing 35mph in a 30 zone are they. He was also shortly before dying set to be found guilty at a war crimes tribunal but yeah Jezza always on the right side of history backing him there. Perhaps you should dig a little deeper.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 29, 2019 23:20:36 GMT
The EDM was in december 2004 2 years after that story, the people of Kosovo seem to disagree. Syria and Salisbury ?[/quote What about Syria and Salisbury? No problem in talking about this, but, again, we are digressing off the point. Your claim was he was always on the right side of history. Salisbury he didnt believe was the russians and wanted to send them the evidence to look at and Syria he denies the chlorine attack by Assad forces
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 23:22:28 GMT
Against militarily invention because he believed it should only have been used as a last report but the comments were in response to this ruling: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1530781.stmRight or wrong. I’m not saying I disagree and it is an example of where he has fallen on the wrong side of history but perhaps one of the very few. At least he doesn’t sell arms to Saudi Arabia knowing the atrocities they are committing in Yemen. The EDM was in december 2004 2 years after that story, the people of Kosovo seem to disagree. Syria and Salisbury ? Yes exactly after. So the finding rightly or wrongly had been passed. I remember someone telling me Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and millions of people dying including a friend of mine in the British army arising as a result of what happened next...so when it comes to whose doing what in the Middle East I don’t believe any of them. I don’t think it’s anything the Conservatives can point fingers on when they continue to fund and support Saudi Arabia. It’s hypocritical beyond belief. Same with Israel being allowed to continue to encroach on Palestine. On Salisbury they refused to give him the fill evidence. He said the evidence he had seen pointed to Russia but without it all being disclosed he wouldn’t accuse them. I don’t think that’s unreasonable. He just wanted to be given all the evidence.
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Post by prettything on Nov 29, 2019 23:27:25 GMT
A lot to input, without you presenting any evidence to support your views. Milosivic was found innocent of all crimes in the international court of justice, before he died in his cell. Dig a little deeper. Again, we are getting off the debate of what the tories have promised to Stoke to make things better, compared to Labours manifesto. Innocent of all crimes except failing to stop a genocide and assist in bringing to justice those who committed the genocide who incidentially would have been the only people who could have linked him to the genocide directly, these arent really doing 35mph in a 30 zone are they. He was also shortly before dying set to be found guilty at a war crimes tribunal but yeah Jezza always on the right side of history backing him there. Perhaps you should dig a little deeper. Again, we are going down a worm hole which has little to do with the original point. However ... www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.globalresearch.ca/slobodan-milosevic-the-killing-of-an-innocent-man/5541534/ampStrange, how he died in his cell?
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