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Post by Foster on Nov 26, 2019 14:22:55 GMT
Corbyn has just said that the "far right" such as Trump and Johnson are "walking in the footsteps of the Nazis". I hope that gets picked up by Andrew Neil and others. I think it's fucking despicable. Have to say I don't like that either. All this talk of teaching British injustices (earlier post) and his focus on equal rights, equal pay, rights for all, etc, etc. It's too much. Who does he think he is? Robin of fucking Locksley. It stinks of someone trying to paint himself as the protector of righteousness and deflect (too much) from the antisemitism rep. Why can't these people just be normal.
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Post by serpico on Nov 26, 2019 14:34:28 GMT
Corbyn has just said that the "far right" such as Trump and Johnson are "walking in the footsteps of the Nazis". I hope that gets picked up by Andrew Neil and others. I think it's fucking despicable. Have to say I don't like that either. All this talk of teaching British injustices (earlier post) and his focus on equal rights, equal pay, rights for all, etc, etc. It's too much. Who does he think he is? Robin of fucking Locksley. It stinks of someone trying to paint himself as the protector of righteousness and deflect (too much) from the antisemitism rep. Why can't these people just be normal. It's politically not very astute, he may get a lot of likes from the woke twitteratti but the wider public will role their eyes at him.
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Post by serpico on Nov 26, 2019 14:44:24 GMT
Corbyn and labour needed the tories to make a massive blunder in their manifesto but there wasn't one this time, imo thats why he did better than expected in 2017, it wasn't so much a corbyn masterstroke in campaigning as it was facing one of the worst tory campaigns in living history, but this time the tories have released their manifesto to hardly any reaction, which for them is a good thing, almost feels like they've not released it yet such has been the muted response to it, again, this is good for the tories, they needed a controversy free manifesto and it looks like they've done it, so long as theres no major revelations or a massive blunder the tories should now walk this.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 26, 2019 14:50:29 GMT
Corbyn and labour needed the tories to make a massive blunder in their manifesto but there wasn't one this time, imo thats why he did better than expected in 2017, it wasn't so much a corbyn masterstroke in campaigning as it was facing one of the worst tory campaigns in living history, but this time the tories have released their manifesto to hardly any reaction, which for them is a good thing, almost feels like they've not released it yet such has been the muted response to it, again, this is good for the tories, they needed a controversy free manifesto and it looks like they've done it, so long as theres no major revelations or a massive blunder the tories should now walk this. True
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Post by Foster on Nov 26, 2019 15:32:27 GMT
Corbyn and labour needed the tories to make a massive blunder in their manifesto but there wasn't one this time, imo thats why he did better than expected in 2017, it wasn't so much a corbyn masterstroke in campaigning as it was facing one of the worst tory campaigns in living history, but this time the tories have released their manifesto to hardly any reaction, which for them is a good thing, almost feels like they've not released it yet such has been the muted response to it, again, this is good for the tories, they needed a controversy free manifesto and it looks like they've done it, so long as theres no major revelations or a massive blunder the tories should now walk this. I just think people can't be bothered paying attention to what they say anymore. Everyone knows they're full of shit and the votes they get are purely Brexit related. The only thing people believe regarding Boris is his will to get it done. He has to, or he's finished.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 26, 2019 16:43:25 GMT
Carry on lying Carry on spending Carry on nationalising
I feel a trilogy coming on here Dianne Abbott as the new Barbara Windsor and Corbynski as Sid James.
Now THAT made me laugh….I had visions of Charles Haughtry playing the scruffy Jeremy Corbyn !!! With Diane Abbott co-starring as Hattie Jacques Now THAT would be something worth getting on your free broadband network !!! Very good not sure she would be ok with portraying a white nurse though she has issues around that, who could we typecast Owen Jones perhaps Kenneth Williams ?, David Lammy as Bernard Bresslaw ? come on people you must be able to think of some maybe Emily Thornberry as Hattie Jacques ? Kier Starmer as Peter Butterworth.
Carry on coming in. Carry on camp ing Owen Jones, Corbyn and Abacus love interest. Outdoor rutting Carry on hating Jews.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 26, 2019 16:44:21 GMT
The use and abuse of language is an important strategy of groups who want to control and think that they have a right to control how others think, behave and what they say....to equate Johnson with the far right completely undermines the political argument. I think Labour are getting desperate now, when they're not complaining about the bbc editing out a small bit of laughter for the sake of brevity they're busy trying to buy votes by offering huge government hand outs, now they're starting to call their opponents nazis, a sure sign of desperation imo. They are mirroring Mo and Co. on here
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 26, 2019 16:45:26 GMT
Corbyn and labour needed the tories to make a massive blunder in their manifesto but there wasn't one this time, imo thats why he did better than expected in 2017, it wasn't so much a corbyn masterstroke in campaigning as it was facing one of the worst tory campaigns in living history, but this time the tories have released their manifesto to hardly any reaction, which for them is a good thing, almost feels like they've not released it yet such has been the muted response to it, again, this is good for the tories, they needed a controversy free manifesto and it looks like they've done it, so long as theres no major revelations or a massive blunder the tories should now walk this. I just think people can't be bothered paying attention to what they say anymore. Everyone knows they're full of shit and the votes they get are purely Brexit related. The only thing people believe regarding Boris is his will to get it done. He has to, or he's finished. The results from our Belgium jury are in
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Post by harryburrows on Nov 26, 2019 16:48:45 GMT
Corbyn and labour needed the tories to make a massive blunder in their manifesto but there wasn't one this time, imo thats why he did better than expected in 2017, it wasn't so much a corbyn masterstroke in campaigning as it was facing one of the worst tory campaigns in living history, but this time the tories have released their manifesto to hardly any reaction, which for them is a good thing, almost feels like they've not released it yet such has been the muted response to it, again, this is good for the tories, they needed a controversy free manifesto and it looks like they've done it, so long as theres no major revelations or a massive blunder the tories should now walk this. I just think people can't be bothered paying attention to what they say anymore. Everyone knows they're full of shit and the votes they get are purely Brexit related. The only thing people believe regarding Boris is his will to get it done. He has to, or he's finished. THe result of this election will not be about Johnson, Brexit , or any manifestos . It will be defined by Corbyns unpopularity across the electorate. I've seen nothing like it since foot and to a lesser extent kinnock .
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 26, 2019 16:59:18 GMT
I just think people can't be bothered paying attention to what they say anymore. Everyone knows they're full of shit and the votes they get are purely Brexit related. The only thing people believe regarding Boris is his will to get it done. He has to, or he's finished. THe result of this election will not be about Johnson, Brexit , or any manifestos . It will be defined by Corbyns unpopularity across the electorate. I've seen nothing like it since foot and to a lesser extent kinnock . Foot and Mouth you could say.
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Post by harryburrows on Nov 26, 2019 17:02:00 GMT
THe result of this election will not be about Johnson, Brexit , or any manifestos . It will be defined by Corbyns unpopularity across the electorate. I've seen nothing like it since foot and to a lesser extent kinnock . Foot and Mouth you could say. At least foot had principals,
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 26, 2019 17:26:08 GMT
THe result of this election will not be about Johnson, Brexit , or any manifestos . It will be defined by Corbyns unpopularity across the electorate. I've seen nothing like it since foot and to a lesser extent kinnock . Foot and Mouth you could say. Brilliant
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 26, 2019 17:38:59 GMT
another chlorinated tory chicken yo frit to face up to his actions Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab was called a "coward" by the friends and family of Harry Dunn as they were left outside of a hustings in his constituency yesterday. He's at a local hustings event. They were there to lobby against the Government. Wrong place, wrong time. it was there local hustings hes there mp!! now explain that frit action away!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 17:44:02 GMT
He's at a local hustings event. They were there to lobby against the Government. Wrong place, wrong time. it was there local hustings hes there mp!! now explain that frit action away! * Their !
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 26, 2019 18:03:30 GMT
He's at a local hustings event. They were there to lobby against the Government. Wrong place, wrong time. it was there local hustings hes there mp!! now explain that frit action away! Are you not very clever or just a liar ? Raab is an MP for a surrey seat, harry dunn was sadly killed near Northampton where his home was. Northampton to Surrey would be a rather large area to cover.....
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Post by pearo on Nov 26, 2019 18:33:14 GMT
it was there local hustings hes there mp!! now explain that frit action away! Are you not very clever or just a liar ? Raab is an MP for a surrey seat, harry dunn was sadly killed near Northampton where his home was. Northampton to Surrey would be a rather large area to cover..... I’m so glad that Essex doesn’t programme sat navs.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Nov 26, 2019 18:38:12 GMT
Been Conservative for 15 years but voting Labour this time round.
The Conservatives are an absolute disgrace and their continued lies and attempts to paint Corbyn as some kind of racist, terrorist sympathiser are nothing short of disgusting.
It doesn't take long to research the smears and realise they're exactly that, complete and utter falsehoods made by those seeking to protect their immense wealth and privilege.
Unfortunately, vast swathes of the population will simply watch the BBC, read the express and blindly vote Tory.
The next 5 years are going to be the most painful yet for those who can't afford yet more years of Tory austerity.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 26, 2019 18:41:13 GMT
Are you not very clever or just a liar ? Raab is an MP for a surrey seat, harry dunn was sadly killed near Northampton where his home was. Northampton to Surrey would be a rather large area to cover..... I’m so glad that Essex doesn’t programme sat navs. I am not sure based on a few I have followed
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 26, 2019 18:44:43 GMT
Been Conservative for 15 years but voting Labour this time round. The Conservatives are an absolute disgrace and their continued lies and attempts to paint Corbyn as some kind of racist, terrorist sympathiser are nothing short of disgusting. It doesn't take long to research the smears and realise they're exactly that, complete and utter falsehoods made by those seeking to protect their immense wealth and privilege. Unfortunately, vast swathes of the population will simply watch the BBC, read the express and blindly vote Tory. The next 5 years are going to be the most painful yet for those who can't afford yet more years of Tory austerity. Yeah ok then. I was personally disgusted by the smears over the wreath, saying he had laid a wreath for terrorists what complete shit the only source for this was the morning star, I mean the morning star come on and some joker called Jeremy Corbyn who wrote the article.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Nov 26, 2019 19:01:57 GMT
Been Conservative for 15 years but voting Labour this time round. The Conservatives are an absolute disgrace and their continued lies and attempts to paint Corbyn as some kind of racist, terrorist sympathiser are nothing short of disgusting. It doesn't take long to research the smears and realise they're exactly that, complete and utter falsehoods made by those seeking to protect their immense wealth and privilege. Unfortunately, vast swathes of the population will simply watch the BBC, read the express and blindly vote Tory. The next 5 years are going to be the most painful yet for those who can't afford yet more years of Tory austerity. Yeah ok then. I was personally disgusted by the smears over the wreath, saying he had laid a wreath for terrorists what complete shit the only source for this was the morning star, I mean the morning star come on and some joker called Jeremy Corbyn who wrote the article. You perhaps need to re-read the article and also try a few independent fact checking websites. You're being lied to, but you're so hell bent on not being proven wrong you'd rather cling to dodgy videos and photos which prove absolutely nothing. The truth is out there if you actually want it.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 26, 2019 19:06:12 GMT
Andrew O’Neil straight in with the big hitters
And to be fair to him he rips them all apart. Totally partisan
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 26, 2019 19:28:28 GMT
Andrew Neil is brutal isn't he. If I was Corbyn I'd be doing a Basil Fawlty faint by now.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 26, 2019 19:29:46 GMT
Andrew Neil is brutal isn't he. If I was Corbyn I'd be doing a Basil Fawlty faint by now. Boris will be shitting bricks Maniac Swinson is buying a tighter top
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 19:39:25 GMT
Neil really goes for the jugular and doesn't let go does he ? He's just warming up for Swinson and Boris
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Post by GrahamHyde on Nov 26, 2019 19:41:13 GMT
Car crash for Corbyn?
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Post by claytonscrubs on Nov 26, 2019 19:45:28 GMT
😂
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Post by serpico on Nov 26, 2019 19:47:31 GMT
Corbyns attempt to appear calm made him seem aloof, bored and listless, i had to turn my TV up because i couldn't properly hear what corbyn was saying. Every time Neil mentioned anti semitism he moved the goal posts to talk about islamophobia, pretty poor showing in all.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 26, 2019 19:49:10 GMT
Are you not very clever or just a liar ? Raab is an MP for a surrey seat, harry dunn was sadly killed near Northampton where his home was. Northampton to Surrey would be a rather large area to cover..... I’m so glad that Essex doesn’t programme sat navs. He's too busy with his editing work for The Guardian.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 26, 2019 19:49:12 GMT
Been Conservative for 15 years but voting Labour this time round. The Conservatives are an absolute disgrace and their continued lies and attempts to paint Corbyn as some kind of racist, terrorist sympathiser are nothing short of disgusting. It doesn't take long to research the smears and realise they're exactly that, complete and utter falsehoods made by those seeking to protect their immense wealth and privilege. Unfortunately, vast swathes of the population will simply watch the BBC, read the express and blindly vote Tory. The next 5 years are going to be the most painful yet for those who can't afford yet more years of Tory austerity. Much of Labour's problems are self inflicted
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 26, 2019 20:03:59 GMT
Been Conservative for 15 years but voting Labour this time round. The Conservatives are an absolute disgrace and their continued lies and attempts to paint Corbyn as some kind of racist, terrorist sympathiser are nothing short of disgusting. It doesn't take long to research the smears and realise they're exactly that, complete and utter falsehoods made by those seeking to protect their immense wealth and privilege. Unfortunately, vast swathes of the population will simply watch the BBC, read the express and blindly vote Tory. The next 5 years are going to be the most painful yet for those who can't afford yet more years of Tory austerity. "Been Conservative for 15 years" Chinny reck-on
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