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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 20:01:29 GMT
This TP argument has been raging on so long. Maybe there is only one way to deal with the divide - Sir Stans statue - Rimmers v Haters. Winners take all. Who's side was Slogger on? He'd be like when that cave troll rocks up in lord of the rings.
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Post by sergeifaye on Aug 24, 2019 20:01:52 GMT
Well don't go then it's a free country. Why should he not go, Pulis isn't the manager you strange person My point is if/ when he is the manager if you dislike him so much (even to the detriment of the team being rescued) don't go the game. Nobodies forcing anybody.
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Post by redrob on Aug 24, 2019 20:02:18 GMT
And you call yourself a fan? It’s a bit pathetic you can’t even have a reasonable discusssion about this without people saying they’d rather be in League One. Firstly getting relegated would ruin us with the players we have on the contracts we have and secondly can anyone actually say hand on heart that TP wouldn’t stabilise us and give us something to build from? I wasn’t ever clamouring for him back but now it seems the only people qualified to do the job we need our manager to do now which is stop the rot and rebuild from the basics up are TP and Big Sam. It’s not a nice position to be in but it’s where we are. Another appointment based on a dream of where we think we want to be and not firmly based on the reality of our situation could destroy us. Your spot on. On current trajectory we look nailed on relegation fodder all the ingredients are there. Do I relish the idea of a TP return no not for a second but a relegation to league 1 will devastate the club so if it was a choice then sometime you have to dance with devil
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Post by sergeifaye on Aug 24, 2019 20:03:14 GMT
And you call yourself a fan? Isn't his argument that he feels Pulis would be more damaging to the club than relegation? Don't see how that contradicts supporting Stoke in any way whatsoever. Just wants what he thinks would be best for the club, people are allowed opinions and many (myself included) can't think of much worse than Pulis returning. How is he damaging the club? Whatever supposed damage he does is worse than league 1? Burton away seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 20:05:13 GMT
This TP argument has been raging on so long. Maybe there is only one way to deal with the divide - Sir Stans statue - Rimmers v Haters. Winners take all. Who's side was Slogger on? He'd be like when that cave troll rocks up in lord of the rings. I feel that March would turn into an absolute machine. This wouldn’t be a battle he was willing to lose.
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Post by BristolMick on Aug 24, 2019 20:06:55 GMT
I have no desire to watch a single minute of Pulisball again in my life and I won’t. Life’s too short. BM Well don't go then it's a free country. Er just like I said. I won’t. Reckon there would be loads more too. BM
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Post by kidcrewbob on Aug 24, 2019 20:07:07 GMT
Some decisive executive decisions and we will NOT get relegated
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Post by march4 on Aug 24, 2019 20:07:25 GMT
Relegation is a certainty unless we send for Red Adair or Tony Pulis to sort it out. Oh well, relegation it'll have to be. A chance to rebuild rather than that capped cretin spreading discord throughout the support like a cancer. I didn’t notice much discord when he applauded us all at the end of the cup final and as one we all stood to acclaim him. The discord only exists in the minds of the tiny minority with their petty vendetta against him. It is they, not Hughes or Scholes or Rowett or Cartwright or Jones or Kitson or anyone else who is responsible for this crisis.
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Post by citynickscfc on Aug 24, 2019 20:08:00 GMT
And you call yourself a fan? It’s a bit pathetic you can’t even have a reasonable discusssion about this without people saying they’d rather be in League One. Firstly getting relegated would ruin us with the players we have on the contracts we have and secondly can anyone actually say hand on heart that TP wouldn’t stabilise us and give us something to build from? I wasn’t ever clamouring for him back but now it seems the only people qualified to do the job we need our manager to do now which is stop the rot and rebuild from the basics up are TP and Big Sam. It’s not a nice position to be in but it’s where we are. Another appointment based on a dream of where we think we want to be and not firmly based on the reality of our situation could destroy us. This is pretty much where I am at. TP isn't something we should smirk or grimace over, his CV flatters us in our current predicament.
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Post by march4 on Aug 24, 2019 20:08:58 GMT
This TP argument has been raging on so long. Maybe there is only one way to deal with the divide - Sir Stans statue - Rimmers v Haters. Winners take all. Who's side was Slogger on? He'd be like when that cave troll rocks up in lord of the rings. 28,000 vs the 200 with their petty vendetta against TP is hardly fair. I find it best to ignore them as I hope Peter Coates will do.
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Post by bigcashprizes on Aug 24, 2019 20:09:40 GMT
This does have the whiff of disaster already I reckon. But...
The Macari era was iconic and I wouldn’t swap jumping round the terrace at Ninian Park for anything... If we’re looking for silver linings 😃
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 20:10:32 GMT
Who's side was Slogger on? He'd be like when that cave troll rocks up in lord of the rings. I feel that March would turn into an absolute machine. This wouldn’t be a battle he was willing to lose. He'd catch sight of Tony looking on and many eyes would be lost, being speared by his erection.
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Post by stokesupporter on Aug 24, 2019 20:11:17 GMT
According to some this is a piss poor division.. so we are now below piss poor.
Currently we are worse than Rotherham was last season and down they went.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 20:11:51 GMT
Oh well, relegation it'll have to be. A chance to rebuild rather than that capped cretin spreading discord throughout the support like a cancer. You’d take relegation over Pulis? I’d take Pulis over relegation but I’ll be leaving my Season Ticket on the shelf until he’s done his work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 20:11:58 GMT
This does have the whiff of disaster already I reckon. But... The Macari era was iconic and I wouldn’t swap jumping round the terrace at Ninian Park for anything... If we’re looking for silver linings 😃 I’d go back to that time in a heartbeat but the financial disputation makes it a very different proposition now - to go from where we are with the players and contracts we have to League One. It would be disastrous.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 24, 2019 20:12:33 GMT
Oh well, relegation it'll have to be. A chance to rebuild rather than that capped cretin spreading discord throughout the support like a cancer. I didn’t notice much discord when he applauded us all at the end of the cup final and as one we all stood to acclaim him. The discord only exists in the minds of the tiny minority with their petty vendetta against him. It is they, not Hughes or Scholes or Rowett or Cartwright or Jones or Kitson or anyone else who is responsible for this crisis. If you're going to type bollocks, stop quoting me please
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Post by BristolMick on Aug 24, 2019 20:13:43 GMT
Oh well, relegation it'll have to be. A chance to rebuild rather than that capped cretin spreading discord throughout the support like a cancer. I didn’t notice much discord when he applauded us all at the end of the cup final and as one we all stood to acclaim him. The discord only exists in the minds of the tiny minority with their petty vendetta against him. It is they, not Hughes or Scholes or Rowett or Cartwright or Jones or Kitson or anyone else who is responsible for this crisis. Fuck me you need help. BM
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Post by Davef on Aug 24, 2019 20:14:25 GMT
Oh well, relegation it'll have to be. A chance to rebuild rather than that capped cretin spreading discord throughout the support like a cancer. I didn’t notice much discord when he applauded us all at the end of the cup final and as one we all stood to acclaim him. The discord only exists in the minds of the tiny minority with their petty vendetta against him. It is they, not Hughes or Scholes or Rowett or Cartwright or Jones or Kitson or anyone else who is responsible for this crisis. There was no discord when Mark Hughes led the team around the pitch after we'd beaten Liverpool 6-1 to claim our second successive 9th place finish. Please, stop trolling.
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Post by PolPotter on Aug 24, 2019 20:14:42 GMT
I think we're down already. I saw it coming 3 years ago as did many others. It will take a lot of character to turn this shit around!
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Post by sergeifaye on Aug 24, 2019 20:22:06 GMT
Well don't go then it's a free country. Er just like I said. I won’t. Reckon there would be loads more too. BM Well it'll either be loads not going watch a TP team or loads not going to watch League 1. Back to 12000 we go. The point being the end result will be the same. I'd rather have 12000 watching a TP championship team than 12000 watching Burton.
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Post by webby137 on Aug 24, 2019 20:22:19 GMT
I think the next 3 games are crucial, if we lose and other results go a certain way we are going to get left behind and I cant see us being good enough to then catch up. Worring times, I am correct in saying Norwich went to down to league 1 after relegation from the premier, then straight back up?, sometimes to rebuild it's best to go right back and start again from the ground up
I really want us to get going and I do like jones, i wanted him to succeed but how can you say we are on the verge of clicking and being brilliant to having to make 6 changes???
Luton seem to be doing ok without him, so maybe it wasn't really him that was so great there?
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 24, 2019 20:23:13 GMT
As a humble fan I know I've got no choice in the matter. Jones is clearly struggling but having come this far we should really give him time. If the owners decide he should go I will back their decision, whatever it is. There is no alternative but to take the rough with the smooth and carry on with hope. Its all part of the Stoke City experience.
In the time that I have supported Stoke 29 individuals have been Manager of the club, from Waddington on, including "caretakers" and up to and including Nathan Jones.
I think I could soon get used to another one to add to the list.
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Post by citynickscfc on Aug 24, 2019 20:26:01 GMT
I think the next 3 games are crucial, if we lose and other results go a certain way we are going to get left behind and I cant see us being good enough to then catch up. Worring times, I am correct in saying Norwich went to down to league 1 after relegation from the premier, then straight back up?, sometimes to rebuild it's best to go right back and start again from the ground up I really want us to get going and I do like jones, i wanted him to succeed but how can you say we are on the verge of clicking and being brilliant to having to make 6 changes??? Luton seem to be doing ok without him, so maybe it wasn't really him that was so great there? Unless scholes goes we are screwed. We didn't prepare for the championship, what makes you think we will be prepared for league one??? We should and can rebuild here easily, but it needs to start at the top. Carto going is great, but there needs to be deeper rooted change. The club is archaic, we don't deserve to be in the prem in the state we find every freaking department of the club in, the CEO, the Coates etc don't deserve it not one bit, so much needs to change, 'the process' needs to be Fuched off.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 24, 2019 20:26:22 GMT
Yes because the two situations are similar aren't they. I wouldn't have to watch hours of the surgeon's more drawn out operations before theatre and I'd be asleep during the procedure anyway (a similarity to Pulisball there, granted) Ha Ha quite good that - but -your life would be saved and your starting point would be from a more advantageous level. But you could also say that every surgeon would have the same way of carrying out a certain operational procedure rather than some specialists having a completely different way of operating to others 😉
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Post by philm87 on Aug 24, 2019 20:26:26 GMT
I think we're down already. I saw it coming 3 years ago as did many others. It will take a lot of character to turn this shit around! 3 years ago, when we were mid-table in the Premier League you saw us getting relegated twice in three seasons, all the way to League One?
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 24, 2019 20:26:36 GMT
And you call yourself a fan? It’s a bit pathetic you can’t even have a reasonable discusssion about this without people saying they’d rather be in League One. Firstly getting relegated would ruin us with the players we have on the contracts we have and secondly can anyone actually say hand on heart that TP wouldn’t stabilise us and give us something to build from? I wasn’t ever clamouring for him back but now it seems the only people qualified to do the job we need our manager to do now which is stop the rot and rebuild from the basics up are TP and Big Sam. It’s not a nice position to be in but it’s where we are. Another appointment based on a dream of where we think we want to be and not firmly based on the reality of our situation could destroy us. Please do not forget that only a few weeks ago Administration was deleting posts based on this scenario. There is a scary fear of Tony Pulis by a few people on this message board. Considering he's one of our greatest ever Managers it's very disrespectful.
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Post by stokesupporter on Aug 24, 2019 20:27:28 GMT
I think we're down already. I saw it coming 3 years ago as did many others. It will take a lot of character to turn this shit around! No we are not... but you are right, it takes a lot of character to turn this around!
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 24, 2019 20:29:20 GMT
No way will we be relegated ..but a middle place is the best we can do with this team/manager/formation..not good enough anyway
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 24, 2019 20:29:41 GMT
We’re down, make no mistake.
It’s fucking disgusting how it’s got to this point.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 24, 2019 20:29:50 GMT
This TP argument has been raging on so long. Maybe there is only one way to deal with the divide - Sir Stans statue - Rimmers v Haters. Winners take all. We already won. He's gone, never to return 👍
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