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Sept 5, 2020 11:29:24 GMT
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 5, 2020 11:29:24 GMT
He should start when Powell is injured which is probably going to be most of the season anyway, if he’s good enough Why is it probable that Powell will be injured most of the season? He's played 30+ games for the last few seasons Because he’s injury prone
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Sept 5, 2020 11:30:51 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 5, 2020 11:30:51 GMT
Why is it probable that Powell will be injured most of the season? He's played 30+ games for the last few seasons Because he’s injury prone But not for the last few seasons He might miss more games than other players but not 'most of the season' which is just nonsense
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Sept 5, 2020 11:33:48 GMT
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 5, 2020 11:33:48 GMT
Because he’s injury prone But bit for the last few seasons He might miss more games than other players but not 'most of the season' which is just nonsense He’s only played 29 games since he’s been at stoke so “he’s played 30+ games in the last few seasons” just isn’t true
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Sept 5, 2020 11:36:41 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 5, 2020 11:36:41 GMT
But bit for the last few seasons He might miss more games than other players but not 'most of the season' which is just nonsense He’s only played 29 games since he’s been at stoke so “he’s played 30+ games in the last few seasons” just isn’t true So sorry I was 1 game off Which is massively closer than you were
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Sept 5, 2020 11:44:22 GMT
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 5, 2020 11:44:22 GMT
He’s only played 29 games since he’s been at stoke so “he’s played 30+ games in the last few seasons” just isn’t true So sorry I was 1 game off Which is massively closer than you were My mistake I thought this was his 3rd season at stoke.
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Sept 5, 2020 11:45:09 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 5, 2020 11:45:09 GMT
So sorry I was 1 game off Which is massively closer than you were My mistake I thought this was his 3rd season at stoke. Well it feels like it because of the break and then the restart
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Post by FullerMagic on Nov 20, 2020 20:04:56 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 20, 2020 20:13:55 GMT
Let’s be fair, O’Neill has barely seen him play, either in a match or training so he’s not going to start waxing lyrical about him. For what it’s worth I think Verlinden has something, hopefully he keeps working hard and gets in the match day squad soon
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 20:23:56 GMT
It's a typical O'Neill measure: he doesn't want Verlinden to think he can walk right back into the team just like that. Moreover he will return to his manual of easing young players in slowly, bit by bit. We might feel that Thibo's breakthrough is by now a long time coming, but for the manager the player is a newcomer under his watch, who's been out for many months with a serious injury. Sometimes O'Neill does stray a little from the script, but if he adheres to his manual, ThV will be on the bench without playing tomorrow, next game or two he will get some minutes, and then if he's acquitted himself well in the eyes of the manager he will start a game, but will be taken off at half time, or 60 mins at the very latest. If he has a blinder, it will be difficult not to play him fulltime from then on. When he does and if he plays on the left rather than on the right, I hope he will have Tymon playing behind or alongside him. Those two have grown up together football wise and know where each other is instinctly.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2020 9:26:51 GMT
www.voetbal24.be/news/club-brugge-kan-verrassend-ex-speler-terughalen-uit-engelandThe son of Club icon Dany Verlinden is now 21, but was unable to break through at the English second division Stoke City , partly due to two serious injuries .
And that starts to sting. "At my age it is important to build in a certain stability and therefore to be on the field," he tells Het Laatste Nieuws . "I feel like they believe in me at Stoke, but I want more than just being part of the squad."
And then you quickly end up with a transfer. “If they can't give me perspectives here, then hopefully they will elsewhere. Is it via loan or permanent transfer, that depends on Stoke's plans. I have another year and a half contract so in that respect it will be an important transfer window. A transfer to a Belgian club? Why not? "
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Verlinden
Dec 14, 2020 9:29:11 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 14, 2020 9:29:11 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-joe-bursik-huddersfield-4723133Thibaud Verlinden is also hoping to catch O’Neill’s eye. “Thibaud’s training,” said O’Neill. “Our numbers are high and we can only pick so many players but he’s back training and he’ll be keen to try push himself into the frame at first team level.” I think he’ll be in the pitch tomorrow at some point, possibly even start and have 60 Sounds a bit lukewarm - but hopefully he's at least on the bench tomorrow. It's a typical O'Neill measure: he doesn't want Verlinden to think he can walk right back into the team just like that. Moreover he will return to his manual of easing young players in slowly, bit by bit. We might feel that Thibo's breakthrough is by now a long time coming, but for the manager the player is a newcomer under his watch, who's been out for many months with a serious injury. Sometimes O'Neill does stray a little from the script, but if he adheres to his manual, ThV will be on the bench without playing tomorrow, next game or two he will get some minutes, and then if he's acquitted himself well in the eyes of the manager he will start a game, but will be taken off at half time, or 60 mins at the very latest. If he has a blinder, it will be difficult not to play him fulltime from then on. When he does and if he plays on the left rather than on the right, I hope he will have Tymon playing behind or alongside him. Those two have grown up together football wise and know where each other is instinctly.
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Verlinden
Dec 14, 2020 9:29:25 GMT
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 14, 2020 9:29:25 GMT
He’s just not a MON player is he? I don’t expect he’ll ever nail down a place in this team.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2020 9:30:38 GMT
I don't see why not?
He's quick, probably the best crosser at the club, can beat a man, can finish.
Why wouldn't anyone like that?
Seems very odd.
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Post by moon on Dec 14, 2020 9:31:20 GMT
He’s just not a MON player is he? I don’t expect he’ll ever nail down a place in this team. And what is it that makes a player a MON player exactly?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 14, 2020 9:35:26 GMT
www.hln.be/sport-in-de-buurt/thibaud-verlinden-is-na-tien-maanden-blessureleed-terug-bij-stoke-city-en-aast-op-minuten-ik-wil-spelen-hier-of-ergens-andersThibaud Verlinden started, how could it be otherwise as the son of a Club Brugge icon, His career at Club Brugge, but at the age of twelve he chose the Académie of Standard. After five years, however, he had no future prospects in Liège and so the right-footed winger went to try his luck in England.
The 21-year-old West-Flemisher had the clubs to choose, but Verlinden chose Stoke City over Everton, among others. A short career sketch.
“The choice to start playing football at Club Brugge was fairly obvious,” laughs Verlinden, who was born in Sint-Joost-ten-Node, but grew up in Nieuwpoort and Koksijde. “My brother, however, played at Standard and also attended a boarding school. Everything was arranged down to the last detail and in terms of youth training, Standard and the Académie were much further than Bruges at that time. So it made sense for me to take that step. I also had five great years there, but towards the end I saw more and more teammates getting their chance to join the first team. They were allowed to train there once, while I was always overlooked. Because there was foreign interest, I decided to leave.
“It is true that I also visited Liverpool, but I didn't have the same feeling there as I did with Stoke. During the tour of Stoke City, I immediately felt welcome and also had an interview with manager Mark Hughes. He convinced me. Money was not my motivation, because at first I received a scolarship, a kind of scholarship. At the same time I was promised that as a sixteen-year-old I would be able to train regularly with the first team. And Stoke kept my word, because when I first sat on the bench in the Premier League I was 17 years old. ”
Injury “Unfortunately, not much later I also got my first serious injury. It was a stress fracture in my back that had to do with my growth ”, Verlinden continues. “Very difficult, because it kept me aside for eight to nine months. After that I was rented to Sankt Pauli. Initially I had a good feeling about it, but after roughly two training sessions the coach who had picked me up was thrown out. His replacement preferred players owned by the club and I was a young mercenary who had not yet proven anything. The playing style was also not quite there, because in the second Bundesliga I played more rugby than football. ” (laughs)
“Then things fared much better for me during a new loan at Bolton. I was top and was able to score a few times and deliver some assists. Stoke was so pleased it called me back and wanted to give me a full shot. But in my second match I was tackled badly and had to leave injured. The verdict was a serious cruciate ligament injury that kept me out of the way for another ten months. ”
“It was very difficult because after my return from Bolton everyone thought I was completely launched. Me too, because I finally felt the confidence. But instead, it turned into another relapse, and not much later, Covid also struck. There were times when I was completely on my own and could not even go to the club or get professional care ”, says Verlinden. “That was difficult, but it made me stronger. Now I am finally back and ready to make a difference both mentally and physically. ”
“I've been on the bench for three games now, but I didn't finish yet. At the moment it is not easy for the coach to change, because we are three points from the leader and lost to Cardiff City last Tuesday (1-2, ed.). So he is under a certain pressure. But it can go fast in football of course. We play three matches a week and then a fifteen minute or half hour substitute can make a world of difference. Hopefully that will give me another game or ten to put me in the spotlight until the transfer market opens. ”
“At my age, it is important to build in a certain stability in your career and therefore to be on the field”, Verlinden says. “I do feel they believe in me at Stoke, but I want more than just being part of the squad. Or at least perspectives. If they can't give it to me here, hopefully somewhere else. Is it via loan or permanent transfer, that depends on Stoke's plans. I have another year and a half contract so in that respect it will be an important mercato. A transfer to the Belgian club? Why not?"
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 14, 2020 9:38:45 GMT
Madness if we continue to leave this guy rotting on the bench.
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Dec 14, 2020 9:38:54 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Dec 14, 2020 9:38:54 GMT
I don't see why not? He's quick, probably the best crosser at the club, can beat a man, can finish. Why wouldn't anyone like that? Seems very odd. My guess is O'Neill wants somebody more defensive
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Post by leicspotter on Dec 14, 2020 9:41:34 GMT
www.hln.be/sport-in-de-buurt/thibaud-verlinden-is-na-tien-maanden-blessureleed-terug-bij-stoke-city-en-aast-op-minuten-ik-wil-spelen-hier-of-ergens-andersThibaud Verlinden started, how could it be otherwise as the son of a Club Brugge icon, His career at Club Brugge, but at the age of twelve he chose the Académie of Standard. After five years, however, he had no future prospects in Liège and so the right-footed winger went to try his luck in England.
The 21-year-old West-Flemisher had the clubs to choose, but Verlinden chose Stoke City over Everton, among others. A short career sketch.
“The choice to start playing football at Club Brugge was fairly obvious,” laughs Verlinden, who was born in Sint-Joost-ten-Node, but grew up in Nieuwpoort and Koksijde. “My brother, however, played at Standard and also attended a boarding school. Everything was arranged down to the last detail and in terms of youth training, Standard and the Académie were much further than Bruges at that time. So it made sense for me to take that step. I also had five great years there, but towards the end I saw more and more teammates getting their chance to join the first team. They were allowed to train there once, while I was always overlooked. Because there was foreign interest, I decided to leave.
“It is true that I also visited Liverpool, but I didn't have the same feeling there as I did with Stoke. During the tour of Stoke City, I immediately felt welcome and also had an interview with manager Mark Hughes. He convinced me. Money was not my motivation, because at first I received a scolarship, a kind of scholarship. At the same time I was promised that as a sixteen-year-old I would be able to train regularly with the first team. And Stoke kept my word, because when I first sat on the bench in the Premier League I was 17 years old. ”
Injury “Unfortunately, not much later I also got my first serious injury. It was a stress fracture in my back that had to do with my growth ”, Verlinden continues. “Very difficult, because it kept me aside for eight to nine months. After that I was rented to Sankt Pauli. Initially I had a good feeling about it, but after roughly two training sessions the coach who had picked me up was thrown out. His replacement preferred players owned by the club and I was a young mercenary who had not yet proven anything. The playing style was also not quite there, because in the second Bundesliga I played more rugby than football. ” (laughs)
“Then things fared much better for me during a new loan at Bolton. I was top and was able to score a few times and deliver some assists. Stoke was so pleased it called me back and wanted to give me a full shot. But in my second match I was tackled badly and had to leave injured. The verdict was a serious cruciate ligament injury that kept me out of the way for another ten months. ”
“It was very difficult because after my return from Bolton everyone thought I was completely launched. Me too, because I finally felt the confidence. But instead, it turned into another relapse, and not much later, Covid also struck. There were times when I was completely on my own and could not even go to the club or get professional care ”, says Verlinden. “That was difficult, but it made me stronger. Now I am finally back and ready to make a difference both mentally and physically. ”
“I've been on the bench for three games now, but I didn't finish yet. At the moment it is not easy for the coach to change, because we are three points from the leader and lost to Cardiff City last Tuesday (1-2, ed.). So he is under a certain pressure. But it can go fast in football of course. We play three matches a week and then a fifteen minute or half hour substitute can make a world of difference. Hopefully that will give me another game or ten to put me in the spotlight until the transfer market opens. ”
“At my age, it is important to build in a certain stability in your career and therefore to be on the field”, Verlinden says. “I do feel they believe in me at Stoke, but I want more than just being part of the squad. Or at least perspectives. If they can't give it to me here, hopefully somewhere else. Is it via loan or permanent transfer, that depends on Stoke's plans. I have another year and a half contract so in that respect it will be an important mercato. A transfer to the Belgian club? Why not?" He's missed virtually 2 years oh his development through injury so, effectively he is still only 19. He needs to be patient, and take his opportunity when it comes, which it almost certainly will very soon. I wish him luck 'cos we could do with some pace up front.
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Post by moon on Dec 14, 2020 9:42:44 GMT
I'm sure he will get some time on the pitch soon, MON gave him a chance last season and he surely would've played more of a part was it not for his injury. If he is as good as they say and he takes his chance, then there is no reason he can't become a regular in the first team for us.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 14, 2020 9:44:41 GMT
I don't see why not? He's quick, probably the best crosser at the club, can beat a man, can finish. Why wouldn't anyone like that? Seems very odd. My guess is O'Neill wants somebody more defensive In his appearances so far Verlinden showed as good an aptitude as anyone for tracking back, certainly more than Ince. I hope it's just a case of easing him in, similar to how he did with Ty, Nath & Harry. With our hectic schedule, he will surely be given a go sooner rather than lately, it's then up to the lad to grab it....I'm convinced he will.
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Dec 14, 2020 9:54:10 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 14, 2020 9:54:10 GMT
No doubt he'll get a run against Spurs in the Carabao Cup, where chances are, it'll be a difficult game for ANY Stoke player to shine!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 10:04:23 GMT
I'm sure he will get some time on the pitch soon, MON gave him a chance last season and he surely would've played more of a part was it not for his injury. If he is as good as they say and he takes his chance, then there is no reason he can't become a regular in the first team for us. He's very much as good as they say, but his performances in the academy this year haven't been as good as you'd hope they would be. He has moments, where he shows he can dribble as well as any one, and then other moments where he seems, frankly, not really bothered. O'Neill has watched those games and he can't have been pleased to see the "other moments". But it may just be a psychological block after a serious injury. He needs an uplifting moment like those 15 minutes he talks about in the above interview, He could be our next hero and make the pain of losing Ty a little easier.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 10:08:08 GMT
No doubt he'll get a run against Spurs in the Carabao Cup, where chances are, it'll be a difficult game for ANY Stoke player to shine!!! Depends on which Spurs turn up. They have excellent players in their second string too, but choosing them and perhaps underestimating us does give us half a chance, and that may be all we need. It is the cup after all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 10:15:31 GMT
Campbell was practically weeks from being a free agent.
Realistically with Tyrese out, it'll give a chance to Verlinden, sink or swim.
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Post by onepara on Dec 14, 2020 10:17:51 GMT
O'Neill said that Verlinden 'has not done enough in training', in other words, he needs to get his finger out & push for a place. That's why he's not playing him.
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 14, 2020 10:23:04 GMT
Campbell was practically weeks from being a free agent. Realistically with Tyrese out, it'll give a chance to Verlinden, sink or swim. Pray good sir, do explain ones self in reference to Master Campbell being weeks from his servitude expiring ?
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Dec 14, 2020 10:33:22 GMT
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Post by thestatusquo on Dec 14, 2020 10:33:22 GMT
Reading his interview I would guess that if he isn’t given much game time he’ll be pushing for a loan somewhere which will be hard for the club to resist if he isn’t given a chance.
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Dec 14, 2020 10:38:09 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 14, 2020 10:38:09 GMT
No doubt he'll get a run against Spurs in the Carabao Cup, where chances are, it'll be a difficult game for ANY Stoke player to shine!!! Depends on which Spurs turn up. They have excellent players in their second string too, but choosing them and perhaps underestimating us does give us half a chance, and that may be all we need. It is the cup after all. Fingers crossed!!! 🤞🏼
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Dec 14, 2020 10:38:41 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 14, 2020 10:38:41 GMT
O'Neill said that Verlinden 'has not done enough in training', in other words, he needs to get his finger out & push for a place. That's why he's not playing him. Training doesn’t matter. According to Bayern.
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 14, 2020 10:41:50 GMT
O'Neill said that Verlinden 'has not done enough in training', in other words, he needs to get his finger out & push for a place. That's why he's not playing him. Training doesn’t matter. According to Bayern. Which of course is a nonsense normally. At the moment though, how much training are we actually able to do? Take this week, for example, when are the players going to be able to train and prepare properly for tomorrow, or Blackburn, or Spurs next week?
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