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Post by lancashirelad on Jan 31, 2020 22:35:04 GMT
Put in a lot effort and a couple of good crosses which we should have had players in the box to make most of. Like a lot of young wingers the full back managed them into safe areas but he is trying to produce a dangerous cross or work a position for a shot at goal.
He and Thompson only had a short time on the pitch and tried hard but the team had lost all shape by then so better to judge when starting in a team structure.
I have seen Verlinden play several times over the last 3 to 4 years (Checkatrade/Youth/Bolton) and he is a player who can produce chances and score the odd goal, but still a lot of learning required before he is an regular starter. He just needs time to get up to championship level hopefully when we are safe this season he can start a few games.
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Post by thehoof on Jan 31, 2020 23:53:10 GMT
Clearly we should keep picking Ince who “is bullied by his own shadow”, who does release the ball quickly, usually backwards, and has 2 assists this season and 1 goal in his last 44 Stoke appearances.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 13:07:52 GMT
Bit harsh to write him off after a short sub appearance, he didn’t set the world alight but I thought he looked reasonably lively, I think he’s got potential. I think it's remarkable how much attention Derby paid to Thibo, one man (Wisdom) marking him closely, another right behind. But by then they were 4 up. Would they have been able to mark him that closely had he played from the beginning? I think, not. With more space and time he could have posed danger and with Powell playing virtually up front there would at least have been one forward who could have exploited the potentially good work. But playing 25 minutes against muscular Derby defenders was tough on a slight lad.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 1, 2020 14:38:51 GMT
Bit harsh to write him off after a short sub appearance, he didn’t set the world alight but I thought he looked reasonably lively, I think he’s got potential. I think it's remarkable how much attention Derby paid to Thibo, one man (Wisdom) marking him closely, another right behind. But by then they were 4 up. Would they have been able to mark him that closely had he played from the beginning? I think, not. With more space and time he could have posed danger and with Powell playing virtually up front there would at least have been one forward who could have exploited the potentially good work. But playing 25 minutes against muscular Derby defenders was tough on a slight lad. A Derby supporting mate of mine messaged earlier & said: **Your left winger (sub) looked a bit tasty - made us change our formation** High praise that from an opposing fan.. He also commented on what's probably also been covered on another thread that the players we had could of caused them some real grief but we simply seemed to sit off & paid Rooney too respect by literally sitting off him & letting him dictate the game to the way they wanted it to go..
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 1, 2020 15:01:42 GMT
Bit harsh to write him off after a short sub appearance, he didn’t set the world alight but I thought he looked reasonably lively, I think he’s got potential. I think it's remarkable how much attention Derby paid to Thibo, one man (Wisdom) marking him closely, another right behind. But by then they were 4 up. Would they have been able to mark him that closely had he played from the beginning? I think, not. With more space and time he could have posed danger and with Powell playing virtually up front there would at least have been one forward who could have exploited the potentially good work. But playing 25 minutes against muscular Derby defenders was tough on a slight lad. Thibo is still very raw, but he probably needs time on the pitch to develop his game. He has a habit of being over ambitious at times but he's young and we really need to try and develop him.
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Post by sd22 on Feb 1, 2020 16:17:27 GMT
Did more than what Ince did all game, in his cameo. Watched him warm up and play a few times now, the lad does not know the meaning of ‘weak foot’ should start over Ince next week.
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Feb 1, 2020 18:48:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 18:48:19 GMT
Could try him at no.10, would get more space and he's 2 footed
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 18:59:37 GMT
Could try him at no.10, would get more space and he's 2 footed Douglas Bader was more two footed than Ince.
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Feb 1, 2020 19:11:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 19:11:06 GMT
Could try him at no.10, would get more space and he's 2 footed Douglas Bader was more two footed than Ince. I was talking about Verlinden
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Feb 1, 2020 19:31:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 19:31:26 GMT
I think verlinden in a 10 role would be a decent shout. Picking the ball up and running at players a bit like how Holmes did for derby. It puts defenders on the back foot and forces errors.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 1, 2020 19:34:12 GMT
Id go with that Clyde. Powell is weak as piss and after last nights No show from him I'd fuck him off back Crewe!
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Post by jeycov on Feb 2, 2020 8:16:32 GMT
Id go with that Clyde. Powell is weak as piss and after last nights No show from him I'd fuck him off back Crewe! Powell is just the sort of player we need to support both Verlinden and Campbell He was booked very early on in yesterday’s game, restricting his opportunities to hassle / annoy his opponents I believe that MON will get the best out of the players in his plans going forward
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 11:31:45 GMT
I think verlinden in a 10 role would be a decent shout. Picking the ball up and running at players a bit like how Holmes did for derby. It puts defenders on the back foot and forces errors. Jones played him there last season vs Norwich. But Thibo's natural inclination is to go wide, so he did.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 11:35:15 GMT
Id go with that Clyde. Powell is weak as piss and after last nights No show from him I'd fuck him off back Crewe! I disagree with that. He made several runs with the ball, not his fault that there was zero movement from Vokes and Ince to make use of his passes. He did start off as more a 9½ than a 10, almost like a striker, but it was misguided tactics by the manager. That's why he wasn't showing much at first.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 4, 2020 13:27:56 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 4, 2020 13:29:29 GMT
He was very good last night and was most certainly taking it seriously. Tearing strips from the liner for the 2/3 fouls he missed on him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 13:37:08 GMT
He needs a run of starts
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 19:19:25 GMT
Far more potential than ince
Will be disappointing ,if Stoke don't give him his chance , and he has to come good elsewhere
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 4, 2020 20:53:59 GMT
I hope he axes Ince. A tin of biscuits is more effective than Ince.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 9, 2020 17:15:01 GMT
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Post by lordb on Aug 9, 2020 17:24:15 GMT
Outstanding prospect Obviously he needs to get fit Once he is he should be in the team/ on the bench No loans now
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 9, 2020 17:26:18 GMT
Outstanding prospect Obviously he needs to get fit Once he is he should be in the team/ on the bench No loans now I think he’s looked quality in the little game time he’s had with us. Missing a little something though, maybe a little strength/stamina? We defo should be keeping him though based on what I saw, we don’t have any other players in his mould
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Post by dioufsboots on Aug 9, 2020 17:29:01 GMT
Outstanding prospect Obviously he needs to get fit Once he is he should be in the team/ on the bench No loans now Him collins and sorenson should perhaps be on the bench this season
but none of them should be first choice starters at min
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 17:47:08 GMT
Outstanding prospect Obviously he needs to get fit Once he is he should be in the team/ on the bench No loans now Him collins and sorenson should perhaps be on the bench this season
but none of them should be first choice starters at min
If he got given the same minutes Ince got given, I'd be highly surprised if his stats wouldn't have bettered Inces
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Post by David Brent on Aug 9, 2020 17:55:52 GMT
Should move heaven and earth to keep Verlinden
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Post by dioufsboots on Aug 9, 2020 18:10:45 GMT
Him collins and sorenson should perhaps be on the bench this season
but none of them should be first choice starters at min
If he got given the same minutes Ince got given, I'd be highly surprised if his stats wouldn't have bettered Inces Agree, ince needs moving on but somebody else needs come in replace him verlinden is a talent no doubt, but at the minute hes unproven and injury prone
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 18:16:53 GMT
If he got given the same minutes Ince got given, I'd be highly surprised if his stats wouldn't have bettered Inces Agree, ince needs moving on but somebody else needs come in replace him verlinden is a talent no doubt, but at the minute hes unproven and injury prone
Wasn't his last full game for us 2 seasons ago now, played against Wigan, got MOTM and tore them a new one before being dropped the following game then got sent on loan the season just finished.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2020 19:58:24 GMT
Verlinden should be another young player starting.
He's got to keep fit though and if he does, he will beat the shit out of the wingers we have.
I just hope he can stay fit.
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Aug 9, 2020 20:55:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 20:55:05 GMT
Verlinden should be another young player starting. He's got to keep fit though and if he does, he will beat the shit out of the wingers we have. I just hope he can stay fit. I hope so. He looked promising in his cameo spells before getting injured. My concern is whether he understands the defensive aspect of his game yet. Certainly he does look like he always wants to get on the ball and charge at his fullback though, which is exciting.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2020 22:08:26 GMT
Verlinden should be another young player starting. He's got to keep fit though and if he does, he will beat the shit out of the wingers we have. I just hope he can stay fit. I hope so. He looked promising in his cameo spells before getting injured. My concern is whether he understands the defensive aspect of his game yet. Certainly he does look like he always wants to get on the ball and charge at his fullback though, which is exciting. I was pleasantly surprised by his defensive side when he did play tbh. He was way more switched on than McClean who is imo poor defensively. People see hard work and running as being good defensively and said the same about Walters but he too imo was poor defensively. They’re both way too reactive to defensive situations and can’t read them. The best defensive winger we’ve had in the last 10 years was Arnie.
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