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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 22, 2019 20:43:58 GMT
I think given time Jones will do it ,we have to be patient, He's had a long tme already, certainly time enough to show some improvements. There are none. In fact, results have got dramatically worse and we are heading for League 1. pulis only saved us on the last day against reading. I went to almost every home game that season. He inherited a disastrous mess when he arrived and was initially given no money. Then, about 11 games into his reign, we took a 6-0 thrashing at Forest and that seemed to wake the Icelanders up and money was released. From there he pretty quickly turned things around, certainly he stemmed the defeats but for a while there were a lot of draws. He hauled us off the bottom of the table and yes, safety was achieved on the last day but we'd have been down months earlier without him. Need to take a deep breath and hang on, we are not far away. 3 wins in 25? The only thing we are 'not far away' from is relegation to League 1.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:46:18 GMT
He got paid millions to get us up and keep us up, from memory he did what was asked. I have not heard of any managers who would do that for a few quid. Then he started to destroy it, but if you think we owe him gratitude then you can bollocks (and I mean that in a nice way) we owe him nowt, he did alright out of the family and did ok after and lets face it without Stoke he was a nothing. He didn’t really destroy anything. He fluffed/sabotaged Europe. That was bad. The last year wasn’t great but he didn’t destroy anything - it was what he built. It got tired and boring but he didn’t destroy anything. It was only when Hughes started dismantling the core that he had built that we crumbled. We need someone to rebuild that core.
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Post by serpico on Aug 22, 2019 20:48:01 GMT
I’d go for TP with Gary Megson as his number 2... the dream team. Sick bastard Didn’t we once have TP and Megson as manager and No2 ? Or am I imiganing it
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 22, 2019 20:48:03 GMT
He got paid millions to get us up and keep us up, from memory he did what was asked. I have not heard of any managers who would do that for a few quid. Then he started to destroy it, but if you think we owe him gratitude then you can bollocks (and I mean that in a nice way) we owe him nowt, he did alright out of the family and did ok after and lets face it without Stoke he was a nothing. a match made in heaven then At That Time.. As for now though i can see this thread headed straight for the .... Attachments:
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:51:18 GMT
I think given time Jones will do it ,we have to be patient, He's had a long tme already, certainly time enough to show some improvements. There are none. In fact, results have got dramatically worse and we are heading for League 1. pulis only saved us on the last day against reading. I went to almost every home game that season. He inherited a disastrous mess when he arrived and was initially given no money. Then, about 11 games into his reign, we took a 6-0 thrashing at Forest and that seemed to wake the Icelanders up and money was released. From there he pretty quickly turned things around, certainly he stemmed the defeats but for a while there were a lot of draws. He hauled us off the bottom of the table and yes, safety was achieved on the last day but we'd have been down months earlier without him. Need to take a deep breath and hang on, we are not far away. 3 wins in 25? The only thing we are 'not far away' from is relegation to League 1. Give over are we.
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Post by stokeox11 on Aug 22, 2019 20:53:18 GMT
He got paid millions to get us up and keep us up, from memory he did what was asked. I have not heard of any managers who would do that for a few quid. Then he started to destroy it, but if you think we owe him gratitude then you can bollocks (and I mean that in a nice way) we owe him nowt, he did alright out of the family and did ok after and lets face it without Stoke he was a nothing. Maybe we would have been nothing without him, as I don't remember a que of top flight managers offering to get us promoted for bugger all. It did start coming apart at the end but there are not many managers that hang around for years at many clubs. I would always be happy to shake his hand and buy him a beer and thank him for getting us to the Prem and the first three seasons we were there, which were great fun.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:54:40 GMT
Then he started to destroy it, but if you think we owe him gratitude then you can bollocks (and I mean that in a nice way) we owe him nowt, he did alright out of the family and did ok after and lets face it without Stoke he was a nothing. He didn’t really destroy anything. He fluffed/sabotaged Europe. That was bad. The last year wasn’t great but he didn’t destroy anything - it was what he built. It got tired and boring but he didn’t destroy anything. It was only when Hughes started dismantling the core that he had built that we crumbled. We need someone to rebuild that core. You are kidding me ? did you sleep through the last Pulis season, players played out of position,and he bought some right shit, give up on away matches,headbutt your own player,take the piss out of fans who traveled to Spain. I agree we need rebuild but not with that twat
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:55:32 GMT
Sick bastard Didn’t we once have TP and Megson as manager and No2 ? Or am I imiganing it I thought Megson was before Pulis? Didn’t we have Megson for a short time when we didn’t they didn’t get Pulis? Didn’t he go to Bristol?
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Post by songthrush01 on Aug 22, 2019 20:56:18 GMT
The bloke managing PNE last night is the sort we would need if things continue to spiral. No frills, gets the job done on minimal resources. thought of him today,they reckon he was close to getting the west brom job. did well for norwich too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:56:30 GMT
He didn’t really destroy anything. He fluffed/sabotaged Europe. That was bad. The last year wasn’t great but he didn’t destroy anything - it was what he built. It got tired and boring but he didn’t destroy anything. It was only when Hughes started dismantling the core that he had built that we crumbled. We need someone to rebuild that core. You are kidding me ? did you sleep through the last Pulis season, players played out of position,and he bought some right shit, give up on away matches,headbutt your own player,take the piss out of fans who traveled to Spain. I agree we need rebuild but not with that twat If Jones were to headbutt Joe Allen now he may go up in my estimations.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:57:30 GMT
Then he started to destroy it, but if you think we owe him gratitude then you can bollocks (and I mean that in a nice way) we owe him nowt, he did alright out of the family and did ok after and lets face it without Stoke he was a nothing. Maybe we would have been nothing without him, as I don't remember a que of top flight managers offering to get us promoted for bugger all. It did start coming apart at the end but there are not many managers that hang around for years at many clubs. I would always be happy to shake his hand and buy him a beer and thank him for getting us to the Prem and the first three seasons we were there, which were great fun. I agree they where good times,but I still dont owe him anything, to have to listen to him say the fans need to understand little old stoke should be happy be on the same pitch has Liverpool ........... fuck off Pulis you arrogant shit
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:58:17 GMT
Didn’t we once have TP and Megson as manager and No2 ? Or am I imiganing it I thought Megson was before Pulis? Didn’t we have Megson for a short time when we didn’t they didn’t get Pulis? Didn’t he go to Bristol? Yea he turned us down because he reckoned Bristol where bigger
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Post by serpico on Aug 22, 2019 21:01:27 GMT
Didn’t we once have TP and Megson as manager and No2 ? Or am I imiganing it I thought Megson was before Pulis? Didn’t we have Megson for a short time when we didn’t they didn’t get Pulis? Didn’t he go to Bristol? Yeh he was, he got canned when the Icelandic regime came in and installed gudjon thordason. But I’m sure megson resurfaced at stoke under TP as his No2 for a short time ? Maybe not his number 2 but was on TPS coaching team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 21:03:29 GMT
The bloke managing PNE last night is the sort we would need if things continue to spiral. No frills, gets the job done on minimal resources. thought of him today,they reckon he was close to getting the west brom job. did well for norwich too. After 11 games last season Preston were 2nd bottom with only 6 points from 11 games, in October. If that was here the fans would be swinging from the roof.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 21:06:25 GMT
I cannot cope with this anymore, people really want sack another manger and bring Pulis back. Am I in a bad dream. Think I need stop reading anymore threads that mention managers its just crazy.
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 22, 2019 21:16:22 GMT
thought of him today,they reckon he was close to getting the west brom job. did well for norwich too. After 11 games last season Preston were 2nd bottom with only 6 points from 11 games, in October. If that was here the fans would be swinging from the roof. It's not just about this season though. Things have got steadily worse since Nathan took over, but because of the situation he was (generously) given a free pass last season on the grounds that he was working with someone else's badly built squad. Now he's got he's own squad and we're EVEN WORSE! He can't do it. It's that simple. He has shown not one iota of an inkling that he knows how to improve this squad. Everything he does makes us worse. I like the bloke but it's just not working, not even a tiny bit.
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 22, 2019 21:16:31 GMT
Surely the owners must be looking at what’s out there managerial wise with an appointment for the forthcoming international break. With out doubt.. shortlist will be something like this Moyes Moyes Moyes Moyes Allardyce TP Moyes See the logic, (and would like Moyes personally) though not so sure now - Moyes would want money in Jan, a huge say over things and his own men wouldn't he? All quite costly. Feel they'd go all "Lambert" in their sentiments if they had to replace Nathan. Old, dull, placid, undemanding, stable (and probably ineffectual, sadly). Megson would fit.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 22, 2019 21:19:16 GMT
1 for me
2 not Pulis 3 not Pulis ....
2000 not Pulis
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Post by burberrybassist on Aug 22, 2019 21:19:18 GMT
I've never wanted somebody to succeed as much as I currently want Nathan Jones to succeed right now after reading this thread.
Some of the alternatives just aren't worth thinking about!
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Post by thevoid on Aug 22, 2019 22:57:08 GMT
He didn’t really destroy anything. He fluffed/sabotaged Europe. That was bad. The last year wasn’t great but he didn’t destroy anything - it was what he built. It got tired and boring but he didn’t destroy anything. It was only when Hughes started dismantling the core that he had built that we crumbled. We need someone to rebuild that core. You are kidding me ? did you sleep through the last Pulis season, players played out of position,and he bought some right shit, give up on away matches,headbutt your own player,take the piss out of fans who traveled to Spain. I agree we need rebuild but not with that twat A few people did sleep through that season in fairness.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 22, 2019 23:48:01 GMT
Then he started to destroy it, but if you think we owe him gratitude then you can bollocks (and I mean that in a nice way) we owe him nowt, he did alright out of the family and did ok after and lets face it without Stoke he was a nothing. He didn’t really destroy anything. He fluffed/sabotaged Europe. That was bad. The last year wasn’t great but he didn’t destroy anything - it was what he built. It got tired and boring but he didn’t destroy anything. It was only when Hughes started dismantling the core that he had built that we crumbled. We need someone to rebuild that core. He did really. He created a Stoke team playing the best football we’d played for years by the end of 2010-11 then senselessly dismantled, removed all the pace from it and created a slow, moribund side that hardly ever scored, despite having £14m worth of strikers spent on it. He lost his way in the transfer market, won four games after New Year in 2011-12 and just three after Christmas the following year. We finished 91st and 92nd for goals scored out of the entire 92 in those last two seasons.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 23, 2019 4:06:47 GMT
Think it's time that we forget the idea that Nathan is a long term plan. If he can make the necessary changes both in personnel and tactically to stave off a relegation fight great, give him the season but the powers that be should be actively sourcing someone for next season. If results and performances continue in the same vein as we are currently seeing then we need to make the change immediantly. For those who have a habit of replying WHO would you appoint? 1. Steve Bould, I always list him first solely because I believe he may just come with the added bonus that he could sort out other ongoing issues namely recruitment and scouting. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-new-manager-arsenal-24082772. Chris Houghton 3. Nigel Pearson
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Post by christhepotter on Aug 23, 2019 4:59:03 GMT
I’d go for TP with Gary Megson as his number 2... the dream team. Can I buy what ever your taking it must be top stuff We’re miles away from being a decent team , we can’t defend we can’t finish We’re so disorganised it’s untrue , we haven’t the players to suit the system he prefers , a system which won’t work at this level as it leaves you to exposed , the guys clueless and must go
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Post by sidstoke on Aug 23, 2019 5:50:06 GMT
Come in Nath, you can do it. He wants this more than anything or anyone and I believe in him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 6:26:28 GMT
Think it's time that we forget the idea that Nathan is a long term plan. If he can make the necessary changes both in personnel and tactically to stave off a relegation fight great, give him the season but the powers that be should be actively sourcing someone for next season. If results and performances continue in the same vein as we are currently seeing then we need to make the change immediantly. For those who have a habit of replying WHO would you appoint? 1. Steve Bould, I always list him first solely because I believe he may just come with the added bonus that he could sort out other ongoing issues namely recruitment and scouting. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-new-manager-arsenal-24082772. Chris Houghton 3. Nigel Pearson At least you've suggested a few sensible names for the level we're at, so well done for that. Steve Bould though? Ouch.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 23, 2019 6:30:45 GMT
Our next manager will be Steve Bruce.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 6:39:39 GMT
He didn’t really destroy anything. He fluffed/sabotaged Europe. That was bad. The last year wasn’t great but he didn’t destroy anything - it was what he built. It got tired and boring but he didn’t destroy anything. It was only when Hughes started dismantling the core that he had built that we crumbled. We need someone to rebuild that core. He did really. He created a Stoke team playing the best football we’d played for years by the end of 2010-11 then senselessly dismantled, removed all the pace from it and created a slow, moribund side that hardly ever scored, despite having £14m worth of strikers spent on it. He lost his way in the transfer market, won four games after New Year in 2011-12 and just three after Christmas the following year. We finished 91st and 92nd for goals scored out of the entire 92 in those last two seasons. As I said, the last year was bad but would I use the world destroy to describe that rather than the Hughes later years, Rowett and what’s going on now sitting at the bottom of the Championship concede everything that’s even near the goal line. No I wouldn’t. And would I trust him to stabilise a club that looks to me like it’s in freefall - yes.
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Post by neddy on Aug 23, 2019 6:47:26 GMT
We need to stick for now......come on Jonesy sort it out!
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 23, 2019 7:22:26 GMT
Right,,, Ive complained more than most about our current sitiuation.... Its Friday, The stinging has subsided a little from Weds now lets all club together and pray for a Miracle come 3 - 4:45 p.m tomorrow weather we beleive in nath or not... Let's hope That a bit like NJ's winless in 4 start of last season with LT we're about to have a change of fortunes....
If not i'l up the painkillers & change religion give that a bash.......
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Post by march4 on Aug 23, 2019 7:29:23 GMT
Right,,, Ive complained more than most about our current sitiuation.... Its Friday, The stinging has subsided a little from Weds now lets all club together and pray for a Miracle come 3 - 4:45 p.m tomorrow weather we beleive in nath or not... Let's hope That a bit like NJ's winless in 4 start of last season with LT we're about to have a change of fortunes.... If not i'l up the painkillers & change religion give that a bash....... Even though I will be watching the game through my fingers, I live in eternal hope that we will be 4-0 up after 20 mins and spend the rest of the game strolling to an easy victory.
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